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    Cops Shoot and Kill Unarmed, Nonviolent Teen on Video — No Charges

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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2016 - 3:16 AM ET #1

    Fresno, CA — In a devastating blow to justice, Fresno police Chief Jerry Dyer said earlier this month that the shooting of unarmed 19-year-old Dylan Noble was in accordance with department policy, but that the proper tactics were not used in the 14 seconds before the fourth and final shot was fired.

    Neither of the Fresno officers, Raymond Camacho or Robert Chavez, will face any charges for the killing of Dylan Noble — nor will they even lose their jobs. They will simply attend extra training in an effort to prevent them from killing unarmed teenagers in the future.

    According to the Fresnobee, Dyer said officers had no ill will or intent when they pulled Noble over. However, Dyer implied that some additional disciplinary action was taken against one or both officers. He said that state law – he cited Penal Code 832.7 – prohibits him from sharing “the specific details of corrective action taken against these officers.”

    Fresnobee notes that the chief said both Camacho and Chavez remain with the department and will get the additional training that all officers will likely receive, which will include:

    • approaching wounded suspects and alternatives to lethal force as the threat to officers and others diminishes;
    • reviewing the use of police dogs on potentially armed suspects;
    • equipping long guns with slings so officers can more easily transition to less lethal alternatives.

    In June, Noble was pulled over after police say they were following up on reports of a man carrying a rifle. Noble was not this man as no weapons were found in his vehicle nor on his person.

    The disturbing body cam footage was made public in July which showed the two officers execute the unarmed teen. 



    The video shows cops shoot Noble for the sole reason of not being able to see both of his hands. The single hand behind his back was used to justify their summary execution.

    Dylan Noble, according to those who knew him, loved everyone, wanted to make people laugh, and thoroughly enjoyed life — until Fresno Police abruptly ended everything on that fateful day of June 25.

    “We lost a very unique and beautiful soul,” a friend posted following Dylan’s untimely death at the hands of police, according to the Daily Beast. “He was never a man who believed in a day without laughter … He made everyone feel like family … He’s made his mark on this earth by always making people filled with laughter and joy.”

    Chief Dyer explained that the first three shots into Noble’s body were just fine and dandy. However, he did note that Chavez’s shotgun blast to the incapacitated Noble, who was bleeding out on the ground, could have been approached differently.

    “I recognize that time and distance can become distorted during a stressful incident,” Dyer said. “However, it is my belief that after reviewing all of the evidence in this case, that 14 seconds provided sufficient time to the officer to consider and employ other potential alternatives which may have minimized the need for the fourth and final round to be fired.”

    In spite of the chief acknowledging the brutal tactic of shooting a dying man on the ground, he still justified it.

    While the body cameras confirm that Dylan Noble did not show both of his hands, the immediate escalation to deadly force was entirely unwarranted. At no time did Dylan present a weapon, point anything in the direction of the officers, or make any sudden movements to justify being filled with bullet holes.

    Even if Noble was in a low spot in his life, he did not seek out the police. They stopped him. Police were supposedly looking for a man carrying a rifle, and it was their mistake that led to Noble’s death.

    Dylan, who yelled “I f—ing hate my life” before he was immediately shot by police, tested positive for alcohol and had trace amounts of cocaine in his system. His parents claim that he was never suicidal and only reacted in this manner because he was upset about potentially being arrested for drunk driving.

    Had officers merely attempted a taser first, Noble would be here today.

    image: https://pixel.watch/qut7

    Below is a graphic example of how deadly a police officer’s fear can be.

    This is why governments are banning the public from access to these videos.

    WARNING: EXTREMELY GRAPHIC AND DISTURBING


    Read more at https://thefreethoughtproject.com/dylan-noble-police-killing-justified/#BPVfiCAm54TO2LEE.99
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    Fresno, CA — In a devastating blow to justice, Fresno police Chief Jerry Dyer said earlier this month that the shooting of unarmed 19-year-old Dylan Noble was in accordance with department policy, but that the proper tactics were not used in the 14 seconds before the fourth and final shot was fired.

    Neither of the Fresno officers, Raymond Camacho or Robert Chavez, will face any charges for the killing of Dylan Noble — nor will they even lose their jobs. They will simply attend extra training in an effort to prevent them from killing unarmed teenagers in the future.

    According to the Fresnobee, Dyer said officers had no ill will or intent when they pulled Noble over. However, Dyer implied that some additional disciplinary action was taken against one or both officers. He said that state law – he cited Penal Code 832.7 – prohibits him from sharing “the specific details of corrective action taken against these officers.”

    Fresnobee notes that the chief said both Camacho and Chavez remain with the department and will get the additional training that all officers will likely receive, which will include:

    • approaching wounded suspects and alternatives to lethal force as the threat to officers and others diminishes;
    • reviewing the use of police dogs on potentially armed suspects;
    • equipping long guns with slings so officers can more easily transition to less lethal alternatives.

    In June, Noble was pulled over after police say they were following up on reports of a man carrying a rifle. Noble was not this man as no weapons were found in his vehicle nor on his person.

    The disturbing body cam footage was made public in July which showed the two officers execute the unarmed teen. 



    The video shows cops shoot Noble for the sole reason of not being able to see both of his hands. The single hand behind his back was used to justify their summary execution.

    Dylan Noble, according to those who knew him, loved everyone, wanted to make people laugh, and thoroughly enjoyed life — until Fresno Police abruptly ended everything on that fateful day of June 25.

    “We lost a very unique and beautiful soul,” a friend posted following Dylan’s untimely death at the hands of police, according to the Daily Beast. “He was never a man who believed in a day without laughter … He made everyone feel like family … He’s made his mark on this earth by always making people filled with laughter and joy.”

    Chief Dyer explained that the first three shots into Noble’s body were just fine and dandy. However, he did note that Chavez’s shotgun blast to the incapacitated Noble, who was bleeding out on the ground, could have been approached differently.

    “I recognize that time and distance can become distorted during a stressful incident,” Dyer said. “However, it is my belief that after reviewing all of the evidence in this case, that 14 seconds provided sufficient time to the officer to consider and employ other potential alternatives which may have minimized the need for the fourth and final round to be fired.”

    In spite of the chief acknowledging the brutal tactic of shooting a dying man on the ground, he still justified it.

    While the body cameras confirm that Dylan Noble did not show both of his hands, the immediate escalation to deadly force was entirely unwarranted. At no time did Dylan present a weapon, point anything in the direction of the officers, or make any sudden movements to justify being filled with bullet holes.

    Even if Noble was in a low spot in his life, he did not seek out the police. They stopped him. Police were supposedly looking for a man carrying a rifle, and it was their mistake that led to Noble’s death.

    Dylan, who yelled “I f—ing hate my life” before he was immediately shot by police, tested positive for alcohol and had trace amounts of cocaine in his system. His parents claim that he was never suicidal and only reacted in this manner because he was upset about potentially being arrested for drunk driving.

    Had officers merely attempted a taser first, Noble would be here today.

    image: https://pixel.watch/qut7

    Below is a graphic example of how deadly a police officer’s fear can be.

    This is why governments are banning the public from access to these videos.

    WARNING: EXTREMELY GRAPHIC AND DISTURBING


    Read more at https://thefreethoughtproject.com/dylan-noble-police-killing-justified/#BPVfiCAm54TO2LEE.99
     
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2016 - 3:23 AM ET #2

    Too bad it was in Calif,where they don't care.  
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2016 - 4:05 AM ET #3

    simple put your hands up kneel.

    after that this is what happens,

    obviously had one gun its beside the pick up

    (right side of body under pick up door)

    could of had more than That

    one tucked into his jeans.

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    simple put your hands up kneel.

    after that this is what happens,

    obviously had one gun its beside the pick up

    (right side of body under pick up door)

    could of had more than That

    one tucked into his jeans.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2016 - 9:04 AM ET #4

    Zelo, the outrage regarding this incident will be limited.
    No police officers will be murdered in retaliation.
    The two officers involved will not lose their jobs.
    The Captain of the department will not be forced to resign.
    The Mayor of the city not be forced to make an apology.
    Things will not be burned, businesses not looted.

    No further comments necessary 
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    Zelo, the outrage regarding this incident will be limited.
    No police officers will be murdered in retaliation.
    The two officers involved will not lose their jobs.
    The Captain of the department will not be forced to resign.
    The Mayor of the city not be forced to make an apology.
    Things will not be burned, businesses not looted.

    No further comments necessary 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2016 - 9:27 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:

    Zelo, the outrage regarding this incident will be limited.
    No police officers will be murdered in retaliation.
    The two officers involved will not lose their jobs.
    The Captain of the department will not be forced to resign.
    The Mayor of the city not be forced to make an apology.
    Things will not be burned, businesses not looted.

    No further comments necessary 

    Wait for it.....
    Wait for it.....

    Oh, he was what now?

    Nevermind.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:

    Zelo, the outrage regarding this incident will be limited.
    No police officers will be murdered in retaliation.
    The two officers involved will not lose their jobs.
    The Captain of the department will not be forced to resign.
    The Mayor of the city not be forced to make an apology.
    Things will not be burned, businesses not looted.

    No further comments necessary 

    Wait for it.....
    Wait for it.....

    Oh, he was what now?

    Nevermind.....
     
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2016 - 9:30 AM ET #6

    That boy had it coming.  Let this be a lesson to all of us.

    If a police has his/her gun drawn, comply whether you're innocent or not.  

    Feel bad for his family; not so much for him.  Can't fix stupid.  
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    That boy had it coming.  Let this be a lesson to all of us.

    If a police has his/her gun drawn, comply whether you're innocent or not.  

    Feel bad for his family; not so much for him.  Can't fix stupid.  
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2016 - 7:52 AM ET #7

    OP, did you watch the video? He had one hand behind his back the entire time.

    Were the cops supposed to wait until he drew a weapon from his waistband?

    How long as these cops supposed to wait?
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    OP, did you watch the video? He had one hand behind his back the entire time.

    Were the cops supposed to wait until he drew a weapon from his waistband?

    How long as these cops supposed to wait?
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2016 - 11:38 AM ET #8

    Suicide by cop.
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