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Wow this is just sad... All these people dead and this wacko-nutjob is politicizing this to an insane level like he is some obssesed partisan lemming that has lost all perspective of real life.




Look numb nuts...the only partisan is you trying to defend Obama's actions..like a good lefty..

The one who has really lost his perspective of real life is your President who refused to call it what it is Radical IslamicTerrorism as the killer shouted "Allah hu Akbar!" while he slaughtering clubgoers.......instead he called it a a hate crime...


 
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Don't sell firearms to all Muslims? Wow 
 
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By Adam Neal of TCPalm

https://www.tcpalm.com/news/crime/st-lucie-county/fbi-confirms-orlando-shooter-mateen-first-american-born-suicide-bomber-abu-salha-had-contact-in-201--382625751.html


VERO BEACH — The man police say is behind Sunday's Orlando shooting had ties to the first American-born suicide bomber at least two years ago, FBI officials said.

The FBI in 2014 investigated the relationship between Omar Mateen, 29, and Moner Mohammad Abu-Salha, who federal officials then identified as the first American-born suicide bomber. Abu-Salha lived in Vero Beach and had ties to Sebastian and Fort Pierce.

Mateen's last known address was in Fort Pierce, the city just south of Vero Beach.

Abu-Salha was 22 years old at the time of the suicide bombing. In 2014, he drove a bomb-laden truck that blew up outside a restaurant in the government-held northwest city of Idlib in Syria, officials said.

"The FBI conducted an investigation, including an interview with Mateen (in 2014)," Ron Hopper, assistant FBI Special Agent in Chicago, said during a Sunday afternoon news conference. "We determined that contact (with Abu-Salha) was minimal, and did not constitute a substitutive relationship or threat at that time."

The FBI first became aware of Mateen in 2013 when he made inflammatory comments to co-workers, alleging possible terrorist ties, Hopper said.

"The FBI thoroughly investigated the matter, including interviews of witnesses, physical surveillance and records checks," he said. "Mr. Mateen was interviewed twice. Ultimately, we were unable to verify the substance of his comments, and the investigation was closed."

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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:



Look numb nuts...the only partisan is you trying to defend Obama's actions..like a good lefty..

The one who has really lost his perspective of real life is your President who refused to call it what it is Radical IslamicTerrorism as the killer shouted "Allah hu Akbar!" while he slaughtering clubgoers.......instead he called it a a hate crime...



Huh?

Why so insulting and angry?  U mad bro?  Why so insulting?

Calm down... You're getting all emotional and crazy 


So first off I'm asking you not to be such a psycho obsessed partisan lemming going off on some insane rhetoric trying politicizing this tragic event...  People died... Real people... Have some respect 

But what do you do in your very first sentence?  You try to mislabel me and further politicize things and only prove my point for me...  It's like you couldn't even wait one sentence to purposefully prove me right to the entire forum

Yet you've lost perspective and can't see That this is what you are doing. If you had perspective and Weren't so emotional, angry and crazy you wouldn't be making a fool of yourself proving me right...

Just sayin...
 
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As expected Hillary Clinton is calling for more gun control as the solution to the Bloodbath in Orlando .. even after the most prevalent mass shooter in American history cleared background checks, medical examination, registration and dozens of hours of mandated training....

The killer had all the required gun licenses  with an additional Class G Firearm License. and both his guns were purchased legally....no loop -holes..

He was authorize to carry up to two semiautomatic pistols or revolvers ranging from .38 to .45 ACP calibers. and the .223 caliber assault rifle and 9mm pistol..used in the mass shooting were confirmed to be legally purchased


It's not gun control we need ..what we need is Muslim control...

 
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As a non-partisan independent if you or anyone else said Donald trump was directly responsible for this I would call them a partisan lemming wacko nutjob that has lost perspective also.

These psycho-obsessed partisan fools just go crazy and flip out because an independent and non-political view transcends their manufactured rhetoric and talking points. 

At least that's what see happen 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

As expected Hillary Clinton is calling for more gun control as the solution to the Bloodbath in Orlando .. even after the most prevalent mass shooter in American history cleared background checks, medical examination, registration and dozens of hours of mandated training....

The killer had all the required gun licenses  with an additional Class G Firearm License. and both his guns were purchased legally....no loop -holes..

He was authorize to carry up to two semiautomatic pistols or revolvers ranging from .38 to .45 ACP calibers. and the .223 caliber assault rifle and 9mm pistol..used in the mass shooting were confirmed to be legally purchased


It's not gun control we need ..what we need is Muslim control...


 
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.............. you call me a wacko-nutjob  and I'm insulting ?

ROLF...


You're a Covers joke .

.just sayin...
 
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

As expected Hillary Clinton is calling for more gun control as the solution to the Bloodbath in Orlando .. even after the most prevalent mass shooter in American history cleared background checks, medical examination, registration and dozens of hours of mandated training....

The killer had all the required gun licenses  with an additional Class G Firearm License. and both his guns were purchased legally....no loop -holes..

He was authorize to carry up to two semiautomatic pistols or revolvers ranging from .38 to .45 ACP calibers. and the .223 caliber assault rifle and 9mm pistol..used in the mass shooting were confirmed to be legally purchased


It's not gun control we need ..what we need is Muslim control...


Nah we just need you to gain some self control andante emotional control rather than getting all bent and crazy going off on this weird partisan lemming politicizing these killings...

It's really how sad it must be for you to have nothing in your life beyond this and can never let a good tragedy go to waste...

I get it now... Americans die and you benefit in your weird personal quest push your politicized agenda...

America's tragic  loss is your gain

Sick sick sick... But mostly sad 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


Huh?

Why so insulting and angry?  U mad bro?  Why so insulting?

Calm down... You're getting all emotional and crazy 


So first off I'm asking you not to be such a psycho obsessed partisan lemming going off on some insane rhetoric trying politicizing this tragic event...  People died... Real people... Have some respect 

But what do you do in your very first sentence?  You try to mislabel me and further politicize things and only prove my point for me...  It's like you couldn't even wait one sentence to purposefully prove me right to the entire forum

Yet you've lost perspective and can't see That this is what you are doing. If you had perspective and Weren't so emotional, angry and crazy you wouldn't be making a fool of yourself proving me right...

Just sayin...

Have some respect is right...

He sounds just like someone who's last name rhymes with rump:

Appreciate the congrats for being right on radical Islamic terrorism, I don't want congrats, I want toughness & vigilance. We must be smart!

 
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very easy to see what is taking place here.. another false flag
 
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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


Have some respect is right...

He sounds just like someone who's last name rhymes with rump:

Appreciate the congrats for being right on radical Islamic terrorism, I don't want congrats, I want toughness & vigilance. We must be smart!



Don't give me that crap...the bodies have just reached the morgue and the Democrats are trying to capitalize on the killings ..Clinton and other Democrats are calling for the need of further firearms restrictions ...


Besides Hillary calling for gun control hours after the killings ..Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Connecticut, who said blame for mass shootings lies with Congress for its failure to enact stricter gun control measures.

Sen. Bernie Sanders, the Democratic presidential contender said "We should not be selling automatic weapons which are designed to kill people"

Democratic Senator Robert Casey said he would announce a bill on Monday that would ban anyone convicted of a misdemeanor hate crime from owning a firearm.

So much for respect.................

 
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So I bring an assault rifle and 2 handguns into a night club -no problem
How does that happen?
 
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Hey two guys that just got released from the penalty box, if you reply to each other any further I will box again and for MUCH MUCH longer.

How anyone could make a tacky political jab in the middle of this is just so so lame.

Focus on the lives of the lost, not blaming politicians or what color of skin the shooter is or what their religious belief is.

People make stupid decisions every single day, no politician can cure religious based stupidity...I can promise you that.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

Hey two guys that just got released from the penalty box, if you reply to each other any further I will box again and for MUCH MUCH longer.

How anyone could make a tacky political jab in the middle of this is just so so lame.

Focus on the lives of the lost, not blaming politicians or what color of skin the shooter is or what their religious belief is.

People make stupid decisions every single day, no politician can cure religious based stupidity...I can promise you that.
Have to agree, the blame for something like this lies squarely on the shoulders of the guy pulling the trigger

I think Obama is an idiot but nothing he does or doesn't do forces anyone to do something like this
 
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false flag alert

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcYgdx2EK_o
 
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Quote Originally Posted by vetdrm:

So I bring an assault rifle and 2 handguns into a night club -no problem
How does that happen?
You'll think, 'No problem.'  Give it a try. You'll find a problem. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

Hey two guys that just got released from the penalty box, if you reply to each other any further I will box again and for MUCH MUCH longer.

How anyone could make a tacky political jab in the middle of this is just so so lame.

Focus on the lives of the lost, not blaming politicians or what color of skin the shooter is or what their religious belief is.

People make stupid decisions every single day, no politician can cure religious based stupidity...I can promise you that.
Curious what the waiting period is before you make it political?  Since it obviously is something that has to be dealt with politically. Whether you think gun-control or radical Muslim-control or a combination---it will have to be discussed politically and dealt with by our politicians. So the ones we put in office should have a plan.  
So what if these two guys want to go back and forth 'somewhat politically'?  As long as they keep it somewhat civil. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by thecentaur:

Have to agree, the blame for something like this lies squarely on the shoulders of the guy pulling the trigger

I think Obama is an idiot but nothing he does or doesn't do forces anyone to do something like this
Forcing and enabling are two very different things.  The question is whether things should be put into place to prevent radicals from doing this.  We discuss ways of preventing other wackos from getting guns and doing this.  The point is if there were no guns ever invented at all---radicals would use airplanes, knives, bombs or whatever else is available. The question is how to prevent them from doing anything like this at all. Sure they have the blame. But if you don't do your best to prevent as much as possibly when you see such a problem --- then you are to blame as well. You cannot swerve the fact that radicals are who they are. Have to to try to formulate a plan. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

Curious what the waiting period is before you make it political?  Since it obviously is something that has to be dealt with politically. Whether you think gun-control or radical Muslim-control or a combination---it will have to be discussed politically and dealt with by our politicians. So the ones we put in office should have a plan.  
So what if these two guys want to go back and forth 'somewhat politically'?  As long as they keep it somewhat civil. 

Not very interested in your approval or opinions on decisions about other members.

 
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So I bring an assault rifle and 2 handguns into a night club -no problem
How does that happen?

The ar15 is not an assault rifle, not even close.  In fact ...it isn't even an automatic gun.  

The media is very dishonest.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

Forcing and enabling are two very different things.  The question is whether things should be put into place to prevent radicals from doing this.  We discuss ways of preventing other wackos from getting guns and doing this.  The point is if there were no guns ever invented at all---radicals would use airplanes, knives, bombs or whatever else is available. The question is how to prevent them from doing anything like this at all. Sure they have the blame. But if you don't do your best to prevent as much as possibly when you see such a problem --- then you are to blame as well. You cannot swerve the fact that radicals are who they are. Have to to try to formulate a plan. 

Maybe change the Qur'an to be more tolerant of Americans.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by lovethedough:


The ar15 is not an assault rifle, not even close.  In fact ...it isn't even an automatic gun.  

The media is very dishonest.



Is that why the AR is classified as an assault weapon under California Law?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberti-Roos_Assault_Weapons_Control_Act_of_1989
 
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Quote Originally Posted by TreyInventor:

Don't sell firearms to all Muslims? Wow 



It would be one hell of a start. Yes
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


Not very interested in your approval or opinions on decisions about other members.

You should be. We are all members and it is your job to be consistent and make sense. What you said didn't make sense. It is a VERY political issue.  Even though you don't want it to be. So it seemed petty to complain about it being politicized this soon after the event. 
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