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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2016 - 4:54 PM ET #101

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    Actually this concept is starting to make the rounds not just at some goofy site that you referenced.

    Looks like this guy was a frustrated closet dweller and that for sure is starting to look like a fact.
    OK but how many close dwellers have shot up 100 people in the name of their religion?  Closet dwelling decided the venue, Islam decided the action taken
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    Actually this concept is starting to make the rounds not just at some goofy site that you referenced.

    Looks like this guy was a frustrated closet dweller and that for sure is starting to look like a fact.
    OK but how many close dwellers have shot up 100 people in the name of their religion?  Closet dwelling decided the venue, Islam decided the action taken
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2016 - 4:54 PM ET #102

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    Actually this concept is starting to make the rounds not just at some goofy site that you referenced.

    Looks like this guy was a frustrated closet dweller and that for sure is starting to look like a fact.


    Agreed. Please refer to post #59 of this very thread which was posted a day and a half ago....

    Muslim "beard" for g@y frustration......
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    Actually this concept is starting to make the rounds not just at some goofy site that you referenced.

    Looks like this guy was a frustrated closet dweller and that for sure is starting to look like a fact.


    Agreed. Please refer to post #59 of this very thread which was posted a day and a half ago....

    Muslim "beard" for g@y frustration......
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2016 - 5:02 PM ET #103

    I'll go ahead and say this. 50 dead in this happy club, which is awful no question.
    But in the meantime, how many children and babies are being casualties of drone attacks overseas on a daily basis that never makes the corporate news?
    This robotic manchurian candidate of a president is more dangerous than any of these shootings.

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    I'll go ahead and say this. 50 dead in this happy club, which is awful no question.
    But in the meantime, how many children and babies are being casualties of drone attacks overseas on a daily basis that never makes the corporate news?
    This robotic manchurian candidate of a president is more dangerous than any of these shootings.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2016 - 5:07 PM ET #104

    Quote Originally Posted by BowmansAddict:

    I'll go ahead and say this. 50 dead in this happy club, which is awful no question.
    But in the meantime, how many children and babies are being casualties of drone attacks overseas on a daily basis that never makes the corporate news?
    This robotic manchurian candidate of a president is more dangerous than any of these shootings.


    Fair comment however that doesn't make this right or acceptable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BowmansAddict:

    I'll go ahead and say this. 50 dead in this happy club, which is awful no question.
    But in the meantime, how many children and babies are being casualties of drone attacks overseas on a daily basis that never makes the corporate news?
    This robotic manchurian candidate of a president is more dangerous than any of these shootings.


    Fair comment however that doesn't make this right or acceptable.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2016 - 5:15 PM ET #105

    The worst part of all these stories is when you  find out that the shooter is killed by police in a gun fight. FOr once i'd like to see things play out mexico style, where a mob catches whoever is responsible and tears them apart on the street with stones and fire. As barbaric as that is, i wouldn't care if someone close to me was shot.
    However, I'm convinced there was more than one shooter. THink of the time it would take to change magazines, and in all that time, if this was a lone gunman, nobody could take the dirtbag down? killing 50 and injuring 53 just seems too farfetched
    I'm still wondering why that one caller on ABC was cut out the instant he began talking about a second shooter.
    At least its something to think about.
    What a horrible mess this entire thing is ffs
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    The worst part of all these stories is when you  find out that the shooter is killed by police in a gun fight. FOr once i'd like to see things play out mexico style, where a mob catches whoever is responsible and tears them apart on the street with stones and fire. As barbaric as that is, i wouldn't care if someone close to me was shot.
    However, I'm convinced there was more than one shooter. THink of the time it would take to change magazines, and in all that time, if this was a lone gunman, nobody could take the dirtbag down? killing 50 and injuring 53 just seems too farfetched
    I'm still wondering why that one caller on ABC was cut out the instant he began talking about a second shooter.
    At least its something to think about.
    What a horrible mess this entire thing is ffs
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2016 - 6:11 PM ET #106

    Quote Originally Posted by BowmansAddict:

    I'll go ahead and say this. 50 dead in this happy club, which is awful no question.
    But in the meantime, how many children and babies are being casualties of drone attacks overseas on a daily basis that never makes the corporate news?
    This robotic manchurian candidate of a president is more dangerous than any of these shootings.


    F#ck "overseas", if you're going to go that route, how about the dead and injured from gun violence since the beginning of 2016 just in Chicago alone? 6 killed/62 injured Memorial Day weekend alone:

    https://wgntv.com/2016/05/31/6-killed-62-injured-in-violent-holiday-weekend-in-chicago/


    The city's becoming Afghanistan, but when's the last time Chicago has been brought up on MSNBC, Fox News, etc., etc? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

    It's because it's a little too real for both candidates to handle, and we all already know what the "problem" is anyways, but a little too "politically incorrect" to address in an election year, that's why......

    So take your overseas drones and stick 'em. We got enough s#it going on here to worry about already, but I see you're location is Canada, so maybe you don't get the full American news anyways.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by BowmansAddict:

    I'll go ahead and say this. 50 dead in this happy club, which is awful no question.
    But in the meantime, how many children and babies are being casualties of drone attacks overseas on a daily basis that never makes the corporate news?
    This robotic manchurian candidate of a president is more dangerous than any of these shootings.


    F#ck "overseas", if you're going to go that route, how about the dead and injured from gun violence since the beginning of 2016 just in Chicago alone? 6 killed/62 injured Memorial Day weekend alone:

    https://wgntv.com/2016/05/31/6-killed-62-injured-in-violent-holiday-weekend-in-chicago/


    The city's becoming Afghanistan, but when's the last time Chicago has been brought up on MSNBC, Fox News, etc., etc? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

    It's because it's a little too real for both candidates to handle, and we all already know what the "problem" is anyways, but a little too "politically incorrect" to address in an election year, that's why......

    So take your overseas drones and stick 'em. We got enough s#it going on here to worry about already, but I see you're location is Canada, so maybe you don't get the full American news anyways.....
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2016 - 6:27 PM ET #107

    I don't know what the hell you're talking about

    interesting video including key eyewitness accounts you won't find on the corporate news...don't immediately dismiss because its called 'false flag'...it doesn't claim the event didn't happen at all...ppl need to watch with open minds..key things to watch for is the guy in the red shoes being carried, that in itself looks friggin weird whats going on there

    if someone shares something i don't agree with, i'ma still read it as long as its within reason..to whoevers interested

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhJfp-gRu5U


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    I don't know what the hell you're talking about

    interesting video including key eyewitness accounts you won't find on the corporate news...don't immediately dismiss because its called 'false flag'...it doesn't claim the event didn't happen at all...ppl need to watch with open minds..key things to watch for is the guy in the red shoes being carried, that in itself looks friggin weird whats going on there

    if someone shares something i don't agree with, i'ma still read it as long as its within reason..to whoevers interested

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhJfp-gRu5U


     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2016 - 6:34 PM ET #108

    Quote Originally Posted by BowmansAddict:

    I don't know what the hell you're talking about




    Really?!?! You're blathering on about drone attacks on babies overseas and you don't know what I'm talking about? Why don't you take a deep breath, drink a hit of Maker's Mark and re-read the last few posts......
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    Quote Originally Posted by BowmansAddict:

    I don't know what the hell you're talking about




    Really?!?! You're blathering on about drone attacks on babies overseas and you don't know what I'm talking about? Why don't you take a deep breath, drink a hit of Maker's Mark and re-read the last few posts......
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2016 - 6:56 PM ET #109

    Ok so you're telling me to discredit your diabolical USA government engaging in these despicable acts. Acts which the bought and paid for mainstream media refuses to cover. You're comparing murders conducted by the government to the murders of intercity civilan violence? The news here makes a huge story everytime one soldier returns home dead which is sad, but for every soldier death you're getting that in the multiples in civilians that americans don't give a garbage about cuz they're 'iraqi or afghan'.

    check out this snippet of what kids overseas have to live with daily...all thanks to the military and their toys, which are paid for by the taxpayers themselves...the below, howcome I never heard this on the real news network CNN?

    A 13-year-old boy killed in Yemen last month by a CIA drone strike had told the Guardian just months earlier that he lived in constant fear of the “death machines” in the sky that had already killed his father and brother.

    “I see them very day and we are scared of them,” said Mohammed Tuaiman, speaking from al-Zur village in Marib province, where he died two weeks ago.

    “A lot of the kids in this area wake up from sleeping because of nightmares from them and some now have mental problems. They turned our area into hell and continuous horror, day and night, we even dream of them in our sleep.”

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    Ok so you're telling me to discredit your diabolical USA government engaging in these despicable acts. Acts which the bought and paid for mainstream media refuses to cover. You're comparing murders conducted by the government to the murders of intercity civilan violence? The news here makes a huge story everytime one soldier returns home dead which is sad, but for every soldier death you're getting that in the multiples in civilians that americans don't give a garbage about cuz they're 'iraqi or afghan'.

    check out this snippet of what kids overseas have to live with daily...all thanks to the military and their toys, which are paid for by the taxpayers themselves...the below, howcome I never heard this on the real news network CNN?

    A 13-year-old boy killed in Yemen last month by a CIA drone strike had told the Guardian just months earlier that he lived in constant fear of the “death machines” in the sky that had already killed his father and brother.

    “I see them very day and we are scared of them,” said Mohammed Tuaiman, speaking from al-Zur village in Marib province, where he died two weeks ago.

    “A lot of the kids in this area wake up from sleeping because of nightmares from them and some now have mental problems. They turned our area into hell and continuous horror, day and night, we even dream of them in our sleep.”

     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2016 - 7:01 PM ET #110

    and if you're for banning guns, do you think a gunman in your typical shooting spree scenario would be as successful if the 'pawns' around him were armed and could take him out as soon as they can pull their guns out to take care of these nuts? banning guns only makes ppl more vulnerable

    also what is ironic, is the retarted stories that make the news about how the kardashians bought a new ping pong table, or about kaitlyn bruce jenners new boob job on FOX...but the real story about the 85 year old lady who took out an armed intruder thanks to her self defense weapon, that is totally ignored. Interesting
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    and if you're for banning guns, do you think a gunman in your typical shooting spree scenario would be as successful if the 'pawns' around him were armed and could take him out as soon as they can pull their guns out to take care of these nuts? banning guns only makes ppl more vulnerable

    also what is ironic, is the retarted stories that make the news about how the kardashians bought a new ping pong table, or about kaitlyn bruce jenners new boob job on FOX...but the real story about the 85 year old lady who took out an armed intruder thanks to her self defense weapon, that is totally ignored. Interesting
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2016 - 9:12 PM ET #111

    Quote Originally Posted by GimmeMoneyNow:



    Were you shot in the head by a g@y Islamic terrorist prior to typing this post? 
     did I stutter San berdiino home made pipe bombs were flying out the back of the SUV. Paris soccer match infernal contraptions were used to slow down police response. Here I believe it was also a home made device such as a pressure cooker involved in Boston Marathon that caused the carnage. But administration it all about guns control. Here what gun control means use two hands line up your sights and hit the target. 25 caliber to the temple by the second bouncer could of saved a lot of lives. Disarming the lawful public gives more and more victims.
    Criminals will use gunsin violence lawful citizens will use guns in defense. But spare me the bad guy won't have guns if we make them illegal cause that is AA fairy tale.
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    Were you shot in the head by a g@y Islamic terrorist prior to typing this post? 
     did I stutter San berdiino home made pipe bombs were flying out the back of the SUV. Paris soccer match infernal contraptions were used to slow down police response. Here I believe it was also a home made device such as a pressure cooker involved in Boston Marathon that caused the carnage. But administration it all about guns control. Here what gun control means use two hands line up your sights and hit the target. 25 caliber to the temple by the second bouncer could of saved a lot of lives. Disarming the lawful public gives more and more victims.
    Criminals will use gunsin violence lawful citizens will use guns in defense. But spare me the bad guy won't have guns if we make them illegal cause that is AA fairy tale.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2016 - 9:40 PM ET #112

    ^^ Last 2 posters, please up your doses of lithium or whatever. You might have something worthwhile and meaningful to say, but you guys are so incoherent and all over the board that no one can understand what you're even talking about. Thank you.
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    ^^ Last 2 posters, please up your doses of lithium or whatever. You might have something worthwhile and meaningful to say, but you guys are so incoherent and all over the board that no one can understand what you're even talking about. Thank you.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2016 - 9:53 PM ET #113

    Quote Originally Posted by GimmeMoneyNow:

    ^^ Last 2 posters, please up your doses of lithium or whatever. You might have something worthwhile and meaningful to say, but you guys are so incoherent and all over the board that no one can understand what you're even talking about. Thank you.
    I've gotten on nature about this before.  At this point I think it's on purpose to bother people
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    Quote Originally Posted by GimmeMoneyNow:

    ^^ Last 2 posters, please up your doses of lithium or whatever. You might have something worthwhile and meaningful to say, but you guys are so incoherent and all over the board that no one can understand what you're even talking about. Thank you.
    I've gotten on nature about this before.  At this point I think it's on purpose to bother people
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2016 - 2:10 PM ET #114

    Talk about tasteless  ....the The New York Times editorial board is laying  the blame for the terrorist attack on an Orlando nightclub by an avowed ISIS supporter on Republicans who don’t support happy rights......................

    NYT editorial in part  :

    "While the precise motivation for the rampage remains unclear, it is evident that Mr. Mateen was driven by hatred toward gays and lesbians. Hate crimes don’t happen in a vacuum. They occur where bigotry is allowed to fester, where minorities are vilified and where people are scapegoated for political gain.Tragically, this is the state of American politics, driven too often by Republican politicians who see prejudice as something to exploit, not extinguish.”


    Shame on the cheesy New York Slim trying to making this tragedy political ...............
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    Talk about tasteless  ....the The New York Times editorial board is laying  the blame for the terrorist attack on an Orlando nightclub by an avowed ISIS supporter on Republicans who don’t support happy rights......................

    NYT editorial in part  :

    "While the precise motivation for the rampage remains unclear, it is evident that Mr. Mateen was driven by hatred toward gays and lesbians. Hate crimes don’t happen in a vacuum. They occur where bigotry is allowed to fester, where minorities are vilified and where people are scapegoated for political gain.Tragically, this is the state of American politics, driven too often by Republican politicians who see prejudice as something to exploit, not extinguish.”


    Shame on the cheesy New York Slim trying to making this tragedy political ...............
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2016 - 3:14 PM ET #115

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Talk about tasteless  ....the The New York Times editorial board is laying  the blame for the terrorist attack on an Orlando nightclub by an avowed ISIS supporter on Republicans who don’t support happy rights......................

    NYT editorial in part  :

    "While the precise motivation for the rampage remains unclear, it is evident that Mr. Mateen was driven by hatred toward gays and lesbians. Hate crimes don’t happen in a vacuum. They occur where bigotry is allowed to fester, where minorities are vilified and where people are scapegoated for political gain.Tragically, this is the state of American politics, driven too often by Republican politicians who see prejudice as something to exploit, not extinguish.”


    Shame on the cheesy New York Slim trying to making this tragedy political ...............

    Not for nothing, but the NYT is a Liberal fantasy of a newspaper that no one takes seriously.  It's very heavily biased.  

    I laugh to myself when I see anyone reading that filth.  People that read it don't have a mind of their own and need to be instructed how to think.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Talk about tasteless  ....the The New York Times editorial board is laying  the blame for the terrorist attack on an Orlando nightclub by an avowed ISIS supporter on Republicans who don’t support happy rights......................

    NYT editorial in part  :

    "While the precise motivation for the rampage remains unclear, it is evident that Mr. Mateen was driven by hatred toward gays and lesbians. Hate crimes don’t happen in a vacuum. They occur where bigotry is allowed to fester, where minorities are vilified and where people are scapegoated for political gain.Tragically, this is the state of American politics, driven too often by Republican politicians who see prejudice as something to exploit, not extinguish.”


    Shame on the cheesy New York Slim trying to making this tragedy political ...............

    Not for nothing, but the NYT is a Liberal fantasy of a newspaper that no one takes seriously.  It's very heavily biased.  

    I laugh to myself when I see anyone reading that filth.  People that read it don't have a mind of their own and need to be instructed how to think.  

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2016 - 4:20 PM ET #116

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    Is that why the AR is classified as an assault weapon under California Law?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberti-Roos_Assault_Weapons_Control_Act_of_1989

    The AR15 is classified as an assault weapon because the people who put that on the list don't know the difference between a firearm and a slingshot.

    If the AR15 is an assault rifle/weapon of war that only the military should have why doesn't the military use this?

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    Is that why the AR is classified as an assault weapon under California Law?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberti-Roos_Assault_Weapons_Control_Act_of_1989

    The AR15 is classified as an assault weapon because the people who put that on the list don't know the difference between a firearm and a slingshot.

    If the AR15 is an assault rifle/weapon of war that only the military should have why doesn't the military use this?

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2016 - 4:29 PM ET #117

    Quote Originally Posted by canovsp:

    The AR15 is classified as an assault weapon because the people who put that on the list don't know the difference between a firearm and a slingshot.

    If the AR15 is an assault rifle/weapon of war that only the military should have why doesn't the military use this?


    Yep

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    Quote Originally Posted by canovsp:

    The AR15 is classified as an assault weapon because the people who put that on the list don't know the difference between a firearm and a slingshot.

    If the AR15 is an assault rifle/weapon of war that only the military should have why doesn't the military use this?


    Yep

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2016 - 4:35 PM ET #118

    Anti-gun Democrats and liberal media like to demonize the AR-15, but from what I'm hearing Omar Mateen didn’t use an AR-15 rifle....he used a Sig Sauer MCX carbine,,

    This is not to say that the Sig is any less dangerous than an AR-15 but the media is total ignorance when it comes to firearms..because they look scary...
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    Anti-gun Democrats and liberal media like to demonize the AR-15, but from what I'm hearing Omar Mateen didn’t use an AR-15 rifle....he used a Sig Sauer MCX carbine,,

    This is not to say that the Sig is any less dangerous than an AR-15 but the media is total ignorance when it comes to firearms..because they look scary...
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2016 - 4:47 PM ET #119

    Exactly Sota, that Sig is actually a ltitle more nasty than the longer heavier AR. Collapsible stock, more maneuverable, more tactical. Spec forces even toy with them. The wacko knew his firearms.
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    Exactly Sota, that Sig is actually a ltitle more nasty than the longer heavier AR. Collapsible stock, more maneuverable, more tactical. Spec forces even toy with them. The wacko knew his firearms.
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2016 - 5:55 PM ET #120

    The AR15 is classified as an assault weapon because the people who put that on the list don't know the difference between a firearm and a slingshot.


    They just changed the definition and made up something new so a ban would pass legislation. AR = Armalite Rifle. Named after the Co that made them in the 50's. All it is is a design and platform. 
    They inserted "Assault Rifle" instead. Not even close. Assault Rifle = full automatic. 
    Once the liby's figure out what a Sig carbine piston driven firearm is, they'll go after those also. 
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    The AR15 is classified as an assault weapon because the people who put that on the list don't know the difference between a firearm and a slingshot.


    They just changed the definition and made up something new so a ban would pass legislation. AR = Armalite Rifle. Named after the Co that made them in the 50's. All it is is a design and platform. 
    They inserted "Assault Rifle" instead. Not even close. Assault Rifle = full automatic. 
    Once the liby's figure out what a Sig carbine piston driven firearm is, they'll go after those also. 
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