I'm not gonna act... and this isn't a cry for help.
I've had them for years, but only on an occasional basis. I've generally been a happy dude up until lately with my health problems and all. Had an acute stroke a year ago and now I can't find work. Wife is the coolest person in the world. I know she's stressed about money, but she never lets on.
Oh... and I can't smoke because I'm trying to find work. That is just what I need right now too.
I would never have the sack to end it. The thought of giving up... The pain my friends and family would go through... and you can't reverse it. I wish I could go to sleep for a year.
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I'm not gonna act... and this isn't a cry for help.
I've had them for years, but only on an occasional basis. I've generally been a happy dude up until lately with my health problems and all. Had an acute stroke a year ago and now I can't find work. Wife is the coolest person in the world. I know she's stressed about money, but she never lets on.
Oh... and I can't smoke because I'm trying to find work. That is just what I need right now too.
I would never have the sack to end it. The thought of giving up... The pain my friends and family would go through... and you can't reverse it. I wish I could go to sleep for a year.
Sorry to hear about your difficulties. It does seem fixable. Try to exercise, even if it's going for long walks. It sounds like a foolish idea, but something happens to your mental attitude when you exercise. It may be very hard to start but it's worth it.
I'm glad you are aware of what the alternative would do to the people that care about you. It's a selfish act and it's not right to hurt those close to you.
I hope things get better for you.
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Sorry to hear about your difficulties. It does seem fixable. Try to exercise, even if it's going for long walks. It sounds like a foolish idea, but something happens to your mental attitude when you exercise. It may be very hard to start but it's worth it.
I'm glad you are aware of what the alternative would do to the people that care about you. It's a selfish act and it's not right to hurt those close to you.
Forget about a regular job. Go find casual work at a local Work Bank where you can do daily jobs at your convenience. If you can't do physical work, check out a Temp Agency that may find you Office or Telephone work.
Also, get a Disability % from your doctor and apply for Social Security Disability Benefits.
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Does Ohio have a Medical MJ law?
Forget about a regular job. Go find casual work at a local Work Bank where you can do daily jobs at your convenience. If you can't do physical work, check out a Temp Agency that may find you Office or Telephone work.
Also, get a Disability % from your doctor and apply for Social Security Disability Benefits.
SteelCash, get professional help now ..forget about getting a job at this time ..the thoughts you are having are not health...get professional help for your depression,, everything else comes second..get mentally health and you can be happy again no matter what the situation is..
You rid yourself of those thoughts and that cool wife of yours will feel it too and probably won't feel as stressed...if you do that.. no matter what's going on or not going on ..you two can still be happy together..
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SteelCash, get professional help now ..forget about getting a job at this time ..the thoughts you are having are not health...get professional help for your depression,, everything else comes second..get mentally health and you can be happy again no matter what the situation is..
You rid yourself of those thoughts and that cool wife of yours will feel it too and probably won't feel as stressed...if you do that.. no matter what's going on or not going on ..you two can still be happy together..
Steel I have battled depression for years. Most people don't know about it because I was able to hide it pretty well.
Slim is 110 % correct. I kept thinking I could handle it on my own until one day my wife demanded I get medical help. Up until that point I had been stubborn about it for about 14 years. I swallowed my pride and made an appointment with my Dr. Best thing I ever could have done. I strongly urge you to do the same.
Everyone is different but he put me on Zoloft and in about 3 weeks I was a changed person, literally. Have him or her explain the benefits and drawbacks to drugs like Zoloft, Xanax etc... I have been taking Zoloft for about 12 years now and it changed my life. Like I said everyone is different so make sure the Dr discusses different options with you.
I am asking you to do one thing. Make an appointment with your Dr. this week. It's the first step and a very important one. Monday morning I want to see a post by you that you made the call. I will be checking back.
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Steel I have battled depression for years. Most people don't know about it because I was able to hide it pretty well.
Slim is 110 % correct. I kept thinking I could handle it on my own until one day my wife demanded I get medical help. Up until that point I had been stubborn about it for about 14 years. I swallowed my pride and made an appointment with my Dr. Best thing I ever could have done. I strongly urge you to do the same.
Everyone is different but he put me on Zoloft and in about 3 weeks I was a changed person, literally. Have him or her explain the benefits and drawbacks to drugs like Zoloft, Xanax etc... I have been taking Zoloft for about 12 years now and it changed my life. Like I said everyone is different so make sure the Dr discusses different options with you.
I am asking you to do one thing. Make an appointment with your Dr. this week. It's the first step and a very important one. Monday morning I want to see a post by you that you made the call. I will be checking back.
I agree with the guys above. See your doctor and get referred to a good counselor or therapist. Also it might be good to join a support group. The mind is a very tricky thing. You have to be careful sometimes.
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I agree with the guys above. See your doctor and get referred to a good counselor or therapist. Also it might be good to join a support group. The mind is a very tricky thing. You have to be careful sometimes.
Steel, a permanent solution to a temporary problem is not the way to go..................
We need you here, bro.
Talk to Europa, BenHogan, Bigkolo74, and Banans about quitting smoking. I got into a thread April 15 a few years ago about. I wouldn't say life-changing, but life-extending is the path many chose.
PM me if you chose
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Steel, a permanent solution to a temporary problem is not the way to go..................
We need you here, bro.
Talk to Europa, BenHogan, Bigkolo74, and Banans about quitting smoking. I got into a thread April 15 a few years ago about. I wouldn't say life-changing, but life-extending is the path many chose.
Don't underestimate the power of nicotine addiction, it's right up there with heroin. Try to remind yourself often that it's the drug playing games with your mind. Hang in there, life is brutal on all of us, but there are some great moments that make it all worth while.
Gym is the best place to manage anything that's going through your mind.
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Don't underestimate the power of nicotine addiction, it's right up there with heroin. Try to remind yourself often that it's the drug playing games with your mind. Hang in there, life is brutal on all of us, but there are some great moments that make it all worth while.
Gym is the best place to manage anything that's going through your mind.
Props to you SteelCash, for having the guts to talk about this.
There's give-and-take in each of our lives. We pay taxes, we help others, when we can. But sometimes, we need to take help from others. Don't be shy about doing that. You can get help whether you have money, or not. Just ask for it.
Here's one place that you can start
https://suicide.org/
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Props to you SteelCash, for having the guts to talk about this.
There's give-and-take in each of our lives. We pay taxes, we help others, when we can. But sometimes, we need to take help from others. Don't be shy about doing that. You can get help whether you have money, or not. Just ask for it.
Steel, a permanent solution to a temporary problem is not the way to go..................
We need you here, bro.
Talk to Europa, BenHogan, Bigkolo74, and Banans about quitting smoking. I got into a thread April 15 a few years ago about. I wouldn't say life-changing, but life-extending is the path many chose.
PM me if you chose
Yep.
Intelligent, creative, funny people are more prone to depression than the average person. Those are the ones we need the most.
One of the funniest books I've ever read is "A Confederacy of Dunces".by John Kennedy Toole. He committed suicide in 1969 at age 31, partly because he couldn't get his book published. Years later, his mother found the manuscript, and dogged a publisher to get it printed. It was finally published, ten years after his death. It won the Pulitzer Prize for Fiction in 1981. It was one of the most entertaining books I've ever read. I wish that the author would have stuck around, to write more books for us, instead of choosing a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
Steel, a permanent solution to a temporary problem is not the way to go..................
We need you here, bro.
Talk to Europa, BenHogan, Bigkolo74, and Banans about quitting smoking. I got into a thread April 15 a few years ago about. I wouldn't say life-changing, but life-extending is the path many chose.
PM me if you chose
Yep.
Intelligent, creative, funny people are more prone to depression than the average person. Those are the ones we need the most.
One of the funniest books I've ever read is "A Confederacy of Dunces".by John Kennedy Toole. He committed suicide in 1969 at age 31, partly because he couldn't get his book published. Years later, his mother found the manuscript, and dogged a publisher to get it printed. It was finally published, ten years after his death. It won the Pulitzer Prize for Fiction in 1981. It was one of the most entertaining books I've ever read. I wish that the author would have stuck around, to write more books for us, instead of choosing a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
Lack of Sack.............I'm down with that bro. Listen to Hawk. He's helped me with this before. We want you here bro. The world is a better place with you here.
Hang in there.
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Lack of Sack.............I'm down with that bro. Listen to Hawk. He's helped me with this before. We want you here bro. The world is a better place with you here.
Steel I have battled depression for years. Most people don't know about it because I was able to hide it pretty well.
Slim is 110 % correct. I kept thinking I could handle it on my own until one day my wife demanded I get medical help. Up until that point I had been stubborn about it for about 14 years. I swallowed my pride and made an appointment with my Dr. Best thing I ever could have done. I strongly urge you to do the same.
Everyone is different but he put me on Zoloft and in about 3 weeks I was a changed person, literally. Have him or her explain the benefits and drawbacks to drugs like Zoloft, Xanax etc... I have been taking Zoloft for about 12 years now and it changed my life. Like I said everyone is different so make sure the Dr discusses different options with you.
I am asking you to do one thing. Make an appointment with your Dr. this week. It's the first step and a very important one. Monday morning I want to see a post by you that you made the call. I will be checking back.
12 years???
I believe you but I thought the treatment of depression is through medication initially (coupled with therapy) with the patient eventually weaned off of what is prescribed.
If 12 years, what prevents the doc from prescribing them for 25 years (given you said they had their best effect after 3 weeks)?
Steel,
I am sorry to hear you had a stroke. Tough break.
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Quote Originally Posted by bettingforfun:
Steel I have battled depression for years. Most people don't know about it because I was able to hide it pretty well.
Slim is 110 % correct. I kept thinking I could handle it on my own until one day my wife demanded I get medical help. Up until that point I had been stubborn about it for about 14 years. I swallowed my pride and made an appointment with my Dr. Best thing I ever could have done. I strongly urge you to do the same.
Everyone is different but he put me on Zoloft and in about 3 weeks I was a changed person, literally. Have him or her explain the benefits and drawbacks to drugs like Zoloft, Xanax etc... I have been taking Zoloft for about 12 years now and it changed my life. Like I said everyone is different so make sure the Dr discusses different options with you.
I am asking you to do one thing. Make an appointment with your Dr. this week. It's the first step and a very important one. Monday morning I want to see a post by you that you made the call. I will be checking back.
12 years???
I believe you but I thought the treatment of depression is through medication initially (coupled with therapy) with the patient eventually weaned off of what is prescribed.
If 12 years, what prevents the doc from prescribing them for 25 years (given you said they had their best effect after 3 weeks)?
Intelligent, creative, funny people are more prone to depression than the average person. Those are the ones we need the most.
One of the funniest books I've ever read is "A Confederacy of Dunces".by John Kennedy Toole. He committed suicide in 1969 at age 31, partly because he couldn't get his book published. Years later, his mother found the manuscript, and dogged a publisher to get it printed. It was finally published, ten years after his death. It won the Pulitzer Prize for Fiction in 1981. It was one of the most entertaining books I've ever read. I wish that the author would have stuck around, to write more books for us, instead of choosing a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
Intelligent, creative, funny people are more prone to depression than the average person. Those are the ones we need the most.
One of the funniest books I've ever read is "A Confederacy of Dunces".by John Kennedy Toole. He committed suicide in 1969 at age 31, partly because he couldn't get his book published. Years later, his mother found the manuscript, and dogged a publisher to get it printed. It was finally published, ten years after his death. It won the Pulitzer Prize for Fiction in 1981. It was one of the most entertaining books I've ever read. I wish that the author would have stuck around, to write more books for us, instead of choosing a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
Hang in there man. I have been battling depression the past 3 years. I think I have been inclined to depression my whole life but have had a pretty decent life up until the past couple of years which really set it off.
I too occasionally have those thoughts, I think most people do at some
point in their lives. Could never do it though, like you lack of sack
and the thought of what it would do to my mom. Plus as dumb as this
sounds who is going to take care of my dog as good as I do...
Long story but job loss, business dried up had to sell my house and move
to a not so ideal location plus a DUI sent me into a downward spiral.
Figured business would eventually pick up again but it didn't and I have
nobody but myself to blame for being complacent.
I am 48 and think at my age I should be cruising through life and I was. Never had any financial hardships. Now I think how the F did I get to where I am now. Been burning through my savings the last few years and it is running out. Making a small percentage of what I did a few years ago. Taking such a huge step backwards at this point in my life has really been massive blow to my ego. I guess I place too much emphasis on being successful. I understand why stock brokers jump out windows.
I have been stubborn about it and have not went to a Dr. also lack of insurance now. Seriously thinking about it though as a last ditch effort. I have swings where one day I think everything will be ok if I can just find some steady income then the next day I am a worthless loser with no hope.
For now just trying to stay healthy and active, I have kept it pretty much to myself but recently started talking about it to a few people in similar situations and it really helps. The one thing I thought was I am the only one with these problems when there are a lot of people struggling.
Talk to somebody about what you are feeling, your wife, a friend whoever it really turned me around instead of keeping it bottled up.
Hopefully find some stable employment soon and everything will be sunshine and roses again.
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Hang in there man. I have been battling depression the past 3 years. I think I have been inclined to depression my whole life but have had a pretty decent life up until the past couple of years which really set it off.
I too occasionally have those thoughts, I think most people do at some
point in their lives. Could never do it though, like you lack of sack
and the thought of what it would do to my mom. Plus as dumb as this
sounds who is going to take care of my dog as good as I do...
Long story but job loss, business dried up had to sell my house and move
to a not so ideal location plus a DUI sent me into a downward spiral.
Figured business would eventually pick up again but it didn't and I have
nobody but myself to blame for being complacent.
I am 48 and think at my age I should be cruising through life and I was. Never had any financial hardships. Now I think how the F did I get to where I am now. Been burning through my savings the last few years and it is running out. Making a small percentage of what I did a few years ago. Taking such a huge step backwards at this point in my life has really been massive blow to my ego. I guess I place too much emphasis on being successful. I understand why stock brokers jump out windows.
I have been stubborn about it and have not went to a Dr. also lack of insurance now. Seriously thinking about it though as a last ditch effort. I have swings where one day I think everything will be ok if I can just find some steady income then the next day I am a worthless loser with no hope.
For now just trying to stay healthy and active, I have kept it pretty much to myself but recently started talking about it to a few people in similar situations and it really helps. The one thing I thought was I am the only one with these problems when there are a lot of people struggling.
Talk to somebody about what you are feeling, your wife, a friend whoever it really turned me around instead of keeping it bottled up.
Hopefully find some stable employment soon and everything will be sunshine and roses again.
I believe you but I thought the treatment of depression is through medication initially (coupled with therapy) with the patient eventually weaned off of what is prescribed.
If 12 years, what prevents the doc from prescribing them for 25 years (given you said they had their best effect after 3 weeks)?
Steel,
I am sorry to hear you had a stroke. Tough break.
I talked to my Doc about any long term effects and he said there weren't any that are known. It takes around 3 weeks to start taking effect.
Basically he explained it to me like this. There are connections in the brain that need to be made. Sometimes these connections are broken. Drugs like Zoloft help make the connection. I have never had any side effects that I am aware of so I just keep taking them. Therefore I don't see a reason to stop. If side effects kick in I would do something else.
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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:
12 years???
I believe you but I thought the treatment of depression is through medication initially (coupled with therapy) with the patient eventually weaned off of what is prescribed.
If 12 years, what prevents the doc from prescribing them for 25 years (given you said they had their best effect after 3 weeks)?
Steel,
I am sorry to hear you had a stroke. Tough break.
I talked to my Doc about any long term effects and he said there weren't any that are known. It takes around 3 weeks to start taking effect.
Basically he explained it to me like this. There are connections in the brain that need to be made. Sometimes these connections are broken. Drugs like Zoloft help make the connection. I have never had any side effects that I am aware of so I just keep taking them. Therefore I don't see a reason to stop. If side effects kick in I would do something else.
I talked to my Doc about any long term effects and he said there weren't any that are known. It takes around 3 weeks to start taking effect.
Basically he explained it to me like this. There are connections in the brain that need to be made. Sometimes these connections are broken. Drugs like Zoloft help make the connection. I have never had any side effects that I am aware of so I just keep taking them. Therefore I don't see a reason to stop. If side effects kick in I would do something else.
I agree with all of that.
The problem is the dependency for a dozen years (and a dozen years of refills which your insurance, in part, might have a problem with, but obviously you haven't encountered any).
I can't speak to this on any neurological level but I would think the aforementioned connections are now there and you may be able to stop taking Zoloft, or at a minimum, inquire about not taking it with your physician, given you are now better (if you truly feel you are better).
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Quote Originally Posted by bettingforfun:
I talked to my Doc about any long term effects and he said there weren't any that are known. It takes around 3 weeks to start taking effect.
Basically he explained it to me like this. There are connections in the brain that need to be made. Sometimes these connections are broken. Drugs like Zoloft help make the connection. I have never had any side effects that I am aware of so I just keep taking them. Therefore I don't see a reason to stop. If side effects kick in I would do something else.
I agree with all of that.
The problem is the dependency for a dozen years (and a dozen years of refills which your insurance, in part, might have a problem with, but obviously you haven't encountered any).
I can't speak to this on any neurological level but I would think the aforementioned connections are now there and you may be able to stop taking Zoloft, or at a minimum, inquire about not taking it with your physician, given you are now better (if you truly feel you are better).
Hang in there man. I have been battling depression the past 3 years. I think I have been inclined to depression my whole life but have had a pretty decent life up until the past couple of years which really set it off.
I too occasionally have those thoughts, I think most people do at some point in their lives. Could never do it though, like you lack of sack and the thought of what it would do to my mom. Plus as dumb as this sounds who is going to take care of my dog as good as I do...
Long story but job loss, business dried up had to sell my house and move to a not so ideal location plus a DUI sent me into a downward spiral. Figured business would eventually pick up again but it didn't and I have nobody but myself to blame for being complacent.
I am 48 and think at my age I should be cruising through life and I was. Never had any financial hardships. Now I think how the F did I get to where I am now. Been burning through my savings the last few years and it is running out. Making a small percentage of what I did a few years ago. Taking such a huge step backwards at this point in my life has really been massive blow to my ego. I guess I place too much emphasis on being successful. I understand why stock brokers jump out windows.
I have been stubborn about it and have not went to a Dr. also lack of insurance now. Seriously thinking about it though as a last ditch effort. I have swings where one day I think everything will be ok if I can just find some steady income then the next day I am a worthless loser with no hope.
For now just trying to stay healthy and active, I have kept it pretty much to myself but recently started talking about it to a few people in similar situations and it really helps. The one thing I thought was I am the only one with these problems when there are a lot of people struggling.
Talk to somebody about what you are feeling, your wife, a friend whoever it really turned me around instead of keeping it bottled up.
Hopefully find some stable employment soon and everything will be sunshine and roses again.
It's simply the wrong career at the wrong time. Not your fault whatsoever.
If you were born three decades earlier and made the exact same career choice decisions you might be the very epitome of the All-American earner.
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Quote Originally Posted by Nut_Flopper:
Hang in there man. I have been battling depression the past 3 years. I think I have been inclined to depression my whole life but have had a pretty decent life up until the past couple of years which really set it off.
I too occasionally have those thoughts, I think most people do at some point in their lives. Could never do it though, like you lack of sack and the thought of what it would do to my mom. Plus as dumb as this sounds who is going to take care of my dog as good as I do...
Long story but job loss, business dried up had to sell my house and move to a not so ideal location plus a DUI sent me into a downward spiral. Figured business would eventually pick up again but it didn't and I have nobody but myself to blame for being complacent.
I am 48 and think at my age I should be cruising through life and I was. Never had any financial hardships. Now I think how the F did I get to where I am now. Been burning through my savings the last few years and it is running out. Making a small percentage of what I did a few years ago. Taking such a huge step backwards at this point in my life has really been massive blow to my ego. I guess I place too much emphasis on being successful. I understand why stock brokers jump out windows.
I have been stubborn about it and have not went to a Dr. also lack of insurance now. Seriously thinking about it though as a last ditch effort. I have swings where one day I think everything will be ok if I can just find some steady income then the next day I am a worthless loser with no hope.
For now just trying to stay healthy and active, I have kept it pretty much to myself but recently started talking about it to a few people in similar situations and it really helps. The one thing I thought was I am the only one with these problems when there are a lot of people struggling.
Talk to somebody about what you are feeling, your wife, a friend whoever it really turned me around instead of keeping it bottled up.
Hopefully find some stable employment soon and everything will be sunshine and roses again.
It's simply the wrong career at the wrong time. Not your fault whatsoever.
If you were born three decades earlier and made the exact same career choice decisions you might be the very epitome of the All-American earner.
i've been a smoker for 15 years... I watched this video with an open mind 2 weeks ago and haven't had a cigarette since. I am done. Quitting has been much easier for me than I had anticipated.
This video isnt gruesome or geared towards trying to scare you, it just looks at the psychology of smoking and why we do it. I recommend watching it and just being open minded.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDJo1vfEqlo
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i've been a smoker for 15 years... I watched this video with an open mind 2 weeks ago and haven't had a cigarette since. I am done. Quitting has been much easier for me than I had anticipated.
This video isnt gruesome or geared towards trying to scare you, it just looks at the psychology of smoking and why we do it. I recommend watching it and just being open minded.
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