Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
I bolded the important parts of your comments.
What if you dont think Iraq was necessary or an adversary? I dont think they were a country or people who attacked us or provoked an attack nor that were deserving of an invasion TWICE. What Saddam did in Kuwait is likely correct, they were horizontal drilling into Iraq land to take oil..how do you think we would act if Mexico were to horizontal drill into our Texas land and take oil? We only went to Kuwait to protect Bush's interests (IMO)..when before or since have we cared two craps about Kuwait? The second invasion while you can blame intel all you want was also phony without provocation or cause.
So how is a media slanted invasion of Iraq any different than a media slanted middle east? If anything the roots of the hatred there go DEEPER and have more of a cost than us and any war we have been involved in.
I see zero difference between their slant and our slant..both are shaped by the media.
Some people (maybe you) think that others are inherently different than we are..I do not. I think genetically we are all the same..if you were to swap people at birth and 1000 of our kids in that area and 1000 of their kids in our area with identical upbringings you would get the same results. Their hatred spawns from out inherent nature to think badly sometimes and listen to media sources for causes of hatred. Their hatred are from thousands of years of fighting in that area, their families and friends being killed in that area..their religious difference and how Israel isolates themselves, takes their settlements and physically isolates themselves.
I dont fault the people there for being angry, I dont think there is a clear innocent party there at all..I think both are in the wrong, both are letting their past hatred and the media fuel their current and future hatred.
And I see ZERO difference between any one group of people and myself.
Well thought out.
However I feel you are misguided. As I stated before people want to think others are just like us. Therefore they cannot get their mind around the fact that they are not. Especially when you factor in dogma and religion. That is why we cannot relate to suicide bombings. Naturally there are many that just want to live and do well. But you cannot dismiss the large faction in that religion alone that is the overriding theme and has great influence in the mindset there.
Please don't think we would have invaded Mexico over drummed up slanted drilling charges. Please don't say that is right. Please don't consider that we would have jumped right to that. Please don't think we would have tried to take over another country. Nothing in our past has shown we would ever do that to another country.
As shown Israel has to isolate themselves??? Is that hard to get. They tried not doing it and it went very badly.Quakers, Amish, Mormons, even NeoNazis isolate themselves. No one is trying to kill them because of it!
It would be interesting to see you use this logic with any African genocide, Hitler, Putin deal, or Cannibals in Brazil. If you don't realize any major difference (especially mindset and culture) I highly recommend you not visit Iraq anytime soon. Sure we are all humans. But gotta remember we can't even get them to try democracy. They think different than we do. It doesn't mean all of them are evil obviously. But you have to realize people today would be vastly surprised how tricky it would be to live during, say the period of Genghis Kahn or the Inquisition or even early witch hunting days here. Even though we all have human DNA it doesn't translate to all seeing eye to eye.
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