BTW - this is something in rational debate known as a "gap theory" - meaning if something cannot be explained fully on one side, that your theory is automatically correct.
Just because we dont know where we came from or understand time and space doesnt mean that god is in the gap.
If you gave a car to a person in 1500, they would think that god created it. Think about it.
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Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:
I knew you wouldnt answer my last question.
All atheists run away from it.
BTW - this is something in rational debate known as a "gap theory" - meaning if something cannot be explained fully on one side, that your theory is automatically correct.
Just because we dont know where we came from or understand time and space doesnt mean that god is in the gap.
If you gave a car to a person in 1500, they would think that god created it. Think about it.
I doubt that you can sit here and say that the universe has a birthdate, and that you fully understand the time and space continuum. Even if scientist hypothesize about it, there is not enough knowledge for anyone to understand it completely.
So for you to say the universe definitely has a birthdate in the context and terms of how we perceive and understand the term time and birthdate - is kind of silly. We dont know that. We dont know a lot of stuff. Just admit it, it is liberating - you dont have to have an answer for everything - and you dont have to keep defending a totally imperfect answer that was given to you 2k years ago by stone age illeterate morons.
Just say it - "I dont know" - it will set you free.
uhm, again you are embarressing yourself.
up until the middle of last century, it was common thought that the universe was static.
Edwin Hubble and Albert Einsteins theory of relativity shows that the universe is expanding.
It is ACCEPTED by proof that the universe began to exist.
So what is it,
Is the cause of the universe something that is outside of time (eternal), space (matterless) and energy? Remember, atheists only believe in the naturlalist OR
Something can come from nothing, ie, from absolutely NOTHING a big bang occured.
You really need to ask yourself.
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Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:
Look rostos -
I doubt that you can sit here and say that the universe has a birthdate, and that you fully understand the time and space continuum. Even if scientist hypothesize about it, there is not enough knowledge for anyone to understand it completely.
So for you to say the universe definitely has a birthdate in the context and terms of how we perceive and understand the term time and birthdate - is kind of silly. We dont know that. We dont know a lot of stuff. Just admit it, it is liberating - you dont have to have an answer for everything - and you dont have to keep defending a totally imperfect answer that was given to you 2k years ago by stone age illeterate morons.
Just say it - "I dont know" - it will set you free.
uhm, again you are embarressing yourself.
up until the middle of last century, it was common thought that the universe was static.
Edwin Hubble and Albert Einsteins theory of relativity shows that the universe is expanding.
It is ACCEPTED by proof that the universe began to exist.
So what is it,
Is the cause of the universe something that is outside of time (eternal), space (matterless) and energy? Remember, atheists only believe in the naturlalist OR
Something can come from nothing, ie, from absolutely NOTHING a big bang occured.
and why the constant bashing of Christians? Why is it that Muslims and person are free from your persecution?
why aren't SATANISTS bashed too..afterall.. they believe EXACTLY what Christians do, only flipped upside down...they pick on Christians because they think that Christians are weak and won't fight back. People like Vanzack and Clubdirt..two real morons, are total cowards in real life...you can say BOO!! to them and they would jump and say in (a sissy voice): why did ya have to do that, you scared me..
nothing but cowards...move along, nothing more to see.........
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Quote Originally Posted by be easy:
and why the constant bashing of Christians? Why is it that Muslims and person are free from your persecution?
why aren't SATANISTS bashed too..afterall.. they believe EXACTLY what Christians do, only flipped upside down...they pick on Christians because they think that Christians are weak and won't fight back. People like Vanzack and Clubdirt..two real morons, are total cowards in real life...you can say BOO!! to them and they would jump and say in (a sissy voice): why did ya have to do that, you scared me..
nothing but cowards...move along, nothing more to see.........
up until the middle of last century, it was common thought that the universe was static.
Edwin Hubble and Albert Einsteins theory of relativity shows that the universe is expanding.
It is ACCEPTED by proof that the universe began to exist.
So what is it,
Is the cause of the universe something that is outside of time (eternal), space (matterless) and energy? Remember, atheists only believe in the naturlalist OR
Something can come from nothing, ie, from absolutely NOTHING a big bang occured.
You really need to ask yourself.
Sir - you might want to read this twice.....
In the same way that 50 years ago the best answer was something, that we have now defined as being something different - 50 years from now it will be defined as different again.
Let me quote you, because you are obviously very smart:
Edwin Hubble and Albert Einsteins theory of relativity shows that the universe is expanding.
The word theory is important there. Look it up. I used your words.
Look - your questions are silly, and are circular in nature. You cannot answer a question that has no basis in the realm of a humans understanding. The context of your question is not relevant.
So my answer remains, I dont know where we came from, and I am not really too concerned about the answer.
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Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:
uhm, again you are embarressing yourself.
up until the middle of last century, it was common thought that the universe was static.
Edwin Hubble and Albert Einsteins theory of relativity shows that the universe is expanding.
It is ACCEPTED by proof that the universe began to exist.
So what is it,
Is the cause of the universe something that is outside of time (eternal), space (matterless) and energy? Remember, atheists only believe in the naturlalist OR
Something can come from nothing, ie, from absolutely NOTHING a big bang occured.
You really need to ask yourself.
Sir - you might want to read this twice.....
In the same way that 50 years ago the best answer was something, that we have now defined as being something different - 50 years from now it will be defined as different again.
Let me quote you, because you are obviously very smart:
Edwin Hubble and Albert Einsteins theory of relativity shows that the universe is expanding.
The word theory is important there. Look it up. I used your words.
Look - your questions are silly, and are circular in nature. You cannot answer a question that has no basis in the realm of a humans understanding. The context of your question is not relevant.
So my answer remains, I dont know where we came from, and I am not really too concerned about the answer.
why aren't SATANISTS bashed too..afterall.. they believe EXACTLY what Christians do, only flipped upside down...they pick on Christians because they think that Christians are weak and won't fight back. People like Vanzack and Clubdirt..two real morons, are total cowards in real life...you can say BOO!! to them and they would jump and say in (a sissy voice): why did ya have to do that, you scared me..
nothing but cowards...move along, nothing more to see.........
I would love to bash a satanist.
Do you know one?
I dont think I could have had a thread with 100 posts if I tried to discuss religion with satanists.
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Quote Originally Posted by RichardA:
why aren't SATANISTS bashed too..afterall.. they believe EXACTLY what Christians do, only flipped upside down...they pick on Christians because they think that Christians are weak and won't fight back. People like Vanzack and Clubdirt..two real morons, are total cowards in real life...you can say BOO!! to them and they would jump and say in (a sissy voice): why did ya have to do that, you scared me..
nothing but cowards...move along, nothing more to see.........
I would love to bash a satanist.
Do you know one?
I dont think I could have had a thread with 100 posts if I tried to discuss religion with satanists.
BTW - this is something in rational debate known as a "gap theory" - meaning if something cannot be explained fully on one side, that your theory is automatically correct.
Just because we dont know where we came from or understand time and space doesnt mean that god is in the gap.
If you gave a car to a person in 1500, they would think that god created it. Think about it.
No its not.
Think this through rationally. Naturalists think that ONLY the physical observable universe is what we have, there is NO supernatural world OR anything outside the physical universe.
You are therefore forced into a corner to believe that something can come from absolutely nothing.
I believe that a transdendant (outside of space, time and matter) created space, time and matter.
All atheists basically believe that an explosion at the print factory causes the dictionary.
mate, it doesnt matter how you look at it, that is what you believe, something came from nothing and everything that we see and know is a result of either a huge fluke or accident.
You are very free to believe that, but i basically feel sorry for you if you think that
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Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:
BTW - this is something in rational debate known as a "gap theory" - meaning if something cannot be explained fully on one side, that your theory is automatically correct.
Just because we dont know where we came from or understand time and space doesnt mean that god is in the gap.
If you gave a car to a person in 1500, they would think that god created it. Think about it.
No its not.
Think this through rationally. Naturalists think that ONLY the physical observable universe is what we have, there is NO supernatural world OR anything outside the physical universe.
You are therefore forced into a corner to believe that something can come from absolutely nothing.
I believe that a transdendant (outside of space, time and matter) created space, time and matter.
All atheists basically believe that an explosion at the print factory causes the dictionary.
mate, it doesnt matter how you look at it, that is what you believe, something came from nothing and everything that we see and know is a result of either a huge fluke or accident.
You are very free to believe that, but i basically feel sorry for you if you think that
why aren't SATANISTS bashed too..afterall.. they believe EXACTLY what Christians do, only flipped upside down...they pick on Christians because they think that Christians are weak and won't fight back. People like Vanzack and Clubdirt..two real morons, are total cowards in real life...you can say BOO!! to them and they would jump and say in (a sissy voice): why did ya have to do that, you scared me..
nothing but cowards...move along, nothing more to see.........
i think you are wrong. I believe them both to be intelligent individuals, genuinely searching answers. I'd be willing to wager that between yourself and the two you named, you might be the biggest sissy of them all when approached by conflict in 'real life'. You reek of box, and not the kind most guys enjoy
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Quote Originally Posted by RichardA:
why aren't SATANISTS bashed too..afterall.. they believe EXACTLY what Christians do, only flipped upside down...they pick on Christians because they think that Christians are weak and won't fight back. People like Vanzack and Clubdirt..two real morons, are total cowards in real life...you can say BOO!! to them and they would jump and say in (a sissy voice): why did ya have to do that, you scared me..
nothing but cowards...move along, nothing more to see.........
i think you are wrong. I believe them both to be intelligent individuals, genuinely searching answers. I'd be willing to wager that between yourself and the two you named, you might be the biggest sissy of them all when approached by conflict in 'real life'. You reek of box, and not the kind most guys enjoy
up until the middle of last century, it was common thought that the universe was static.
Edwin Hubble and Albert Einsteins theory of relativity shows that the universe is expanding.
It is ACCEPTED by proof that the universe began to exist.
So what is it,
Is the cause of the universe something that is outside of time (eternal), space (matterless) and energy? Remember, atheists only believe in the naturlalist OR
Something can come from nothing, ie, from absolutely NOTHING a big bang occured.
You really need to ask yourself.
I guess maybe the better question is:
Lets assume you are right and there is a creator.
How are you so sure that YOUR creator is the RIGHT creator? There are say 5k gods out there, under the penalty of everlasting torture, how are you sure that yours is the right one? What if some obscure god #3,429 is the right god and you just havent heard about him yet?
Eternal torture sounds horrible. What if you made the wrong pick?
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Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:
uhm, again you are embarressing yourself.
up until the middle of last century, it was common thought that the universe was static.
Edwin Hubble and Albert Einsteins theory of relativity shows that the universe is expanding.
It is ACCEPTED by proof that the universe began to exist.
So what is it,
Is the cause of the universe something that is outside of time (eternal), space (matterless) and energy? Remember, atheists only believe in the naturlalist OR
Something can come from nothing, ie, from absolutely NOTHING a big bang occured.
You really need to ask yourself.
I guess maybe the better question is:
Lets assume you are right and there is a creator.
How are you so sure that YOUR creator is the RIGHT creator? There are say 5k gods out there, under the penalty of everlasting torture, how are you sure that yours is the right one? What if some obscure god #3,429 is the right god and you just havent heard about him yet?
Eternal torture sounds horrible. What if you made the wrong pick?
Think this through rationally. Naturalists think that ONLY the physical observable universe is what we have, there is NO supernatural world OR anything outside the physical universe.
You are therefore forced into a corner to believe that something can come from absolutely nothing.
I believe that a transdendant (outside of space, time and matter) created space, time and matter.
All atheists basically believe that an explosion at the print factory causes the dictionary.
mate, it doesnt matter how you look at it, that is what you believe, something came from nothing and everything that we see and know is a result of either a huge fluke or accident.
You are very free to believe that, but i basically feel sorry for you if you think that
Sir -
Once again, you are drawing incorrect conclusions.
If one believes that there is no supernatural forces, that person does not have to believe that something came from nothing. That person can simply say "We dont know" where we came from.
It is not one or the other. It is not supernatural, or we came from nothing. There are MANY other answers, and one is simply "I dont know".
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Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:
No its not.
Think this through rationally. Naturalists think that ONLY the physical observable universe is what we have, there is NO supernatural world OR anything outside the physical universe.
You are therefore forced into a corner to believe that something can come from absolutely nothing.
I believe that a transdendant (outside of space, time and matter) created space, time and matter.
All atheists basically believe that an explosion at the print factory causes the dictionary.
mate, it doesnt matter how you look at it, that is what you believe, something came from nothing and everything that we see and know is a result of either a huge fluke or accident.
You are very free to believe that, but i basically feel sorry for you if you think that
Sir -
Once again, you are drawing incorrect conclusions.
If one believes that there is no supernatural forces, that person does not have to believe that something came from nothing. That person can simply say "We dont know" where we came from.
It is not one or the other. It is not supernatural, or we came from nothing. There are MANY other answers, and one is simply "I dont know".
In the same way that 50 years ago the best answer was something, that we have now defined as being something different - 50 years from now it will be defined as different again.
Let me quote you, because you are obviously very smart:
Edwin Hubble and Albert Einsteins theory of relativity shows that the universe is expanding.
The word theory is important there. Look it up. I used your words.
Look - your questions are silly, and are circular in nature. You cannot answer a question that has no basis in the realm of a humans understanding. The context of your question is not relevant.
So my answer remains, I dont know where we came from, and I am not really too concerned about the answer.
No, no, no......
Scientists NOW KNOW the universe is expanding, if it is expnading it would have come from a single point (singularity), who created singularity?
Mate, face it, you have to believe something came from nothing.
Furthermore, you believe that the distance from the sun to the earth, moon etc all the elcetro magnetic fields are perfectly in place to support life on earth are by pure chance and fluke.
Furthermore, u are led to believe that the first living cell occured by pure living chance cause we had the right micture of atmospheric conditions with a chance of lightining. If was a different weather day millions of years ago we wouldnt be here.
Seriously, to be an atheist, u have to be soooooo ignorant, rely that everything is a massive fluke with all chance.
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Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:
Sir - you might want to read this twice.....
In the same way that 50 years ago the best answer was something, that we have now defined as being something different - 50 years from now it will be defined as different again.
Let me quote you, because you are obviously very smart:
Edwin Hubble and Albert Einsteins theory of relativity shows that the universe is expanding.
The word theory is important there. Look it up. I used your words.
Look - your questions are silly, and are circular in nature. You cannot answer a question that has no basis in the realm of a humans understanding. The context of your question is not relevant.
So my answer remains, I dont know where we came from, and I am not really too concerned about the answer.
No, no, no......
Scientists NOW KNOW the universe is expanding, if it is expnading it would have come from a single point (singularity), who created singularity?
Mate, face it, you have to believe something came from nothing.
Furthermore, you believe that the distance from the sun to the earth, moon etc all the elcetro magnetic fields are perfectly in place to support life on earth are by pure chance and fluke.
Furthermore, u are led to believe that the first living cell occured by pure living chance cause we had the right micture of atmospheric conditions with a chance of lightining. If was a different weather day millions of years ago we wouldnt be here.
Seriously, to be an atheist, u have to be soooooo ignorant, rely that everything is a massive fluke with all chance.
The smartest man who ever lived,(besides myself) Albert Einstein, was a believer in God, he wasn't a Christian, but a God believer...I know this isn't the subject, but you are a known atheist. His statement about atheists:
Einstein tended to be more critical of debunkers, who seemed to lack
humility or a sense of awe, than of the faithful. “The fanatical
atheists,” he wrote in a letter, “are like slaves who are still feeling
the weight of their chains which they have thrown off after hard
struggle. They are creatures who–in their grudge against traditional
religion as the ‘opium of the masses’– cannot hear the music of the
spheres.” –TIME MAGAZINE
Einstein DID believe in God. It may not have been a “personal God”
but he did believe in God, he said so himself many times. He in fact
hated the idea of atheism.
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The smartest man who ever lived,(besides myself) Albert Einstein, was a believer in God, he wasn't a Christian, but a God believer...I know this isn't the subject, but you are a known atheist. His statement about atheists:
Einstein tended to be more critical of debunkers, who seemed to lack
humility or a sense of awe, than of the faithful. “The fanatical
atheists,” he wrote in a letter, “are like slaves who are still feeling
the weight of their chains which they have thrown off after hard
struggle. They are creatures who–in their grudge against traditional
religion as the ‘opium of the masses’– cannot hear the music of the
spheres.” –TIME MAGAZINE
Einstein DID believe in God. It may not have been a “personal God”
but he did believe in God, he said so himself many times. He in fact
hated the idea of atheism.
i think you are wrong. I believe them both to be intelligent individuals, genuinely searching answers. I'd be willing to wager that between yourself and the two you named, you might be the biggest sissy of them all when approached by conflict in 'real life'. You reek of box, and not the kind most guys enjoy
I tell you what hero...let's find that out..pm me and we can arrange for a meeting face to face and find out...I do a lot of traveling and I'd LOVE to take you up on your offer....box-BOY..
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Quote Originally Posted by be easy:
i think you are wrong. I believe them both to be intelligent individuals, genuinely searching answers. I'd be willing to wager that between yourself and the two you named, you might be the biggest sissy of them all when approached by conflict in 'real life'. You reek of box, and not the kind most guys enjoy
I tell you what hero...let's find that out..pm me and we can arrange for a meeting face to face and find out...I do a lot of traveling and I'd LOVE to take you up on your offer....box-BOY..
Once again, you are drawing incorrect conclusions.
If one believes that there is no supernatural forces, that person does not have to believe that something came from nothing. That person can simply say "We dont know" where we came from.
It is not one or the other. It is not supernatural, or we came from nothing. There are MANY other answers, and one is simply "I dont know".
But hang on, at the end of the day, cause there is NO SUCH THING AS AN INFINITE REGRESS, there will be a point in time that if you dont believe in anything that is supernatural or outside the univers, then you are forced to belueve that something can come from nothing.
Its as simple as that.
Have a good think about it buddy.
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Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:
Sir -
Once again, you are drawing incorrect conclusions.
If one believes that there is no supernatural forces, that person does not have to believe that something came from nothing. That person can simply say "We dont know" where we came from.
It is not one or the other. It is not supernatural, or we came from nothing. There are MANY other answers, and one is simply "I dont know".
But hang on, at the end of the day, cause there is NO SUCH THING AS AN INFINITE REGRESS, there will be a point in time that if you dont believe in anything that is supernatural or outside the univers, then you are forced to belueve that something can come from nothing.
Am gonna make the same post in all the religion posts i see.
It doesnt matter to me if you believe in God or dont believe in God, thats a persons own choice.
Heres the thing nobody on this entire planet can prove there is a God and nobody on this planet can prove there isnt a God, thats a 100 percent fact. Any proof you or anybody has that there is no God, is basically another humans opinion and nothing more.
We can argue about this until the cows come home but the fact is noboy can prove one way or the other, its just impossible to do.
Now me personally, i believe theres a God because when i look around everywhere, i say to myself there is no way that everything could have been created from one single cell, fuckin impossible. Things are way to complicated. And we didnt evolve, because if we did there would be walking and talking aligators by now in the world.
Now as far as religion itself, i think thats a total farce and people just use that to control people, but that still doesnt take away the chance that there is God
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Van,
Am gonna make the same post in all the religion posts i see.
It doesnt matter to me if you believe in God or dont believe in God, thats a persons own choice.
Heres the thing nobody on this entire planet can prove there is a God and nobody on this planet can prove there isnt a God, thats a 100 percent fact. Any proof you or anybody has that there is no God, is basically another humans opinion and nothing more.
We can argue about this until the cows come home but the fact is noboy can prove one way or the other, its just impossible to do.
Now me personally, i believe theres a God because when i look around everywhere, i say to myself there is no way that everything could have been created from one single cell, fuckin impossible. Things are way to complicated. And we didnt evolve, because if we did there would be walking and talking aligators by now in the world.
Now as far as religion itself, i think thats a total farce and people just use that to control people, but that still doesnt take away the chance that there is God
Scientists NOW KNOW the universe is expanding, if it is expnading it would have come from a single point (singularity), who created singularity?
Mate, face it, you have to believe something came from nothing.
Furthermore, you believe that the distance from the sun to the earth, moon etc all the elcetro magnetic fields are perfectly in place to support life on earth are by pure chance and fluke.
Furthermore, u are led to believe that the first living cell occured by pure living chance cause we had the right micture of atmospheric conditions with a chance of lightining. If was a different weather day millions of years ago we wouldnt be here.
Seriously, to be an atheist, u have to be soooooo ignorant, rely that everything is a massive fluke with all chance.
You gonna answer this?
I guess maybe the better question is:
Lets assume you are right and there is a creator.
How are you so sure that YOUR creator is the RIGHT creator? There are say 5k gods out there, under the penalty of everlasting torture, how are you sure that yours is the right one? What if some obscure god #3,429 is the right god and you just havent heard about him yet?
Eternal torture sounds horrible. What if you made the wrong pick?
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Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:
No, no, no......
Scientists NOW KNOW the universe is expanding, if it is expnading it would have come from a single point (singularity), who created singularity?
Mate, face it, you have to believe something came from nothing.
Furthermore, you believe that the distance from the sun to the earth, moon etc all the elcetro magnetic fields are perfectly in place to support life on earth are by pure chance and fluke.
Furthermore, u are led to believe that the first living cell occured by pure living chance cause we had the right micture of atmospheric conditions with a chance of lightining. If was a different weather day millions of years ago we wouldnt be here.
Seriously, to be an atheist, u have to be soooooo ignorant, rely that everything is a massive fluke with all chance.
You gonna answer this?
I guess maybe the better question is:
Lets assume you are right and there is a creator.
How are you so sure that YOUR creator is the RIGHT creator? There are say 5k gods out there, under the penalty of everlasting torture, how are you sure that yours is the right one? What if some obscure god #3,429 is the right god and you just havent heard about him yet?
Eternal torture sounds horrible. What if you made the wrong pick?
Scientists NOW KNOW the universe is expanding, if it is expnading it would have come from a single point (singularity), who created singularity?
Mate, face it, you have to believe something came from nothing.
Furthermore, you believe that the distance from the sun to the earth, moon etc all the elcetro magnetic fields are perfectly in place to support life on earth are by pure chance and fluke.
Furthermore, u are led to believe that the first living cell occured by pure living chance cause we had the right micture of atmospheric conditions with a chance of lightining. If was a different weather day millions of years ago we wouldnt be here.
Seriously, to be an atheist, u have to be soooooo ignorant, rely that everything is a massive fluke with all chance.
And to be religious you have to be soooooooo arrogant, to know that your god is the right god. If there was such a thing...
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Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:
No, no, no......
Scientists NOW KNOW the universe is expanding, if it is expnading it would have come from a single point (singularity), who created singularity?
Mate, face it, you have to believe something came from nothing.
Furthermore, you believe that the distance from the sun to the earth, moon etc all the elcetro magnetic fields are perfectly in place to support life on earth are by pure chance and fluke.
Furthermore, u are led to believe that the first living cell occured by pure living chance cause we had the right micture of atmospheric conditions with a chance of lightining. If was a different weather day millions of years ago we wouldnt be here.
Seriously, to be an atheist, u have to be soooooo ignorant, rely that everything is a massive fluke with all chance.
And to be religious you have to be soooooooo arrogant, to know that your god is the right god. If there was such a thing...
I tell you what hero...let's find that out..pm me and we can arrange for a meeting face to face and find out...I do a lot of traveling and I'd LOVE to take you up on your offer....box-BOY..
case in point
the punks do all the talking. go on now, tell me some story about how you fight MMA or something
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Quote Originally Posted by RichardA:
I tell you what hero...let's find that out..pm me and we can arrange for a meeting face to face and find out...I do a lot of traveling and I'd LOVE to take you up on your offer....box-BOY..
case in point
the punks do all the talking. go on now, tell me some story about how you fight MMA or something
Am gonna make the same post in all the religion posts i see.
It doesnt matter to me if you believe in God or dont believe in God, thats a persons own choice.
Heres the thing nobody on this entire planet can prove there is a God and nobody on this planet can prove there isnt a God, thats a 100 percent fact. Any proof you or anybody has that there is no God, is basically another humans opinion and nothing more.
We can argue about this until the cows come home but the fact is noboy can prove one way or the other, its just impossible to do.
Now me personally, i believe theres a God because when i look around everywhere, i say to myself there is no way that everything could have been created from one single cell, fuckin impossible. Things are way to complicated. And we didnt evolve, because if we did there would be walking and talking aligators by now in the world.
Now as far as religion itself, i think thats a total farce and people just use that to control people, but that still doesnt take away the chance that there is God
No problems with that.
The discussion here was about the bible. The article I posted was about the history of the bible.
If someone says to me that they believe in God, I have no problem with that. Like you say, it is not really debatable. I would be a hypocrite to rule out this possiblity based on my "I dont know" position.
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Quote Originally Posted by cd329:
Van,
Am gonna make the same post in all the religion posts i see.
It doesnt matter to me if you believe in God or dont believe in God, thats a persons own choice.
Heres the thing nobody on this entire planet can prove there is a God and nobody on this planet can prove there isnt a God, thats a 100 percent fact. Any proof you or anybody has that there is no God, is basically another humans opinion and nothing more.
We can argue about this until the cows come home but the fact is noboy can prove one way or the other, its just impossible to do.
Now me personally, i believe theres a God because when i look around everywhere, i say to myself there is no way that everything could have been created from one single cell, fuckin impossible. Things are way to complicated. And we didnt evolve, because if we did there would be walking and talking aligators by now in the world.
Now as far as religion itself, i think thats a total farce and people just use that to control people, but that still doesnt take away the chance that there is God
No problems with that.
The discussion here was about the bible. The article I posted was about the history of the bible.
If someone says to me that they believe in God, I have no problem with that. Like you say, it is not really debatable. I would be a hypocrite to rule out this possiblity based on my "I dont know" position.
The smartest man who ever lived,(besides myself) Albert Einstein, was a believer in God, he wasn't a Christian, but a God believer...I know this isn't the subject, but you are a known atheist. His statement about atheists:
Einstein tended to be more critical of debunkers, who seemed to lack
humility or a sense of awe, than of the faithful. “The fanatical
atheists,” he wrote in a letter, “are like slaves who are still feeling
the weight of their chains which they have thrown off after hard
struggle. They are creatures who–in their grudge against traditional
religion as the ‘opium of the masses’– cannot hear the music of the
spheres.” –TIME MAGAZINE
Einstein DID believe in God. It may not have been a “personal God”
but he did believe in God, he said so himself many times. He in fact
hated the idea of atheism.
Einstein believed that Mother Nature was god, sort of a Gaia 'theorist' before there was such a thing. I tend to agree with him
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Quote Originally Posted by RichardA:
The smartest man who ever lived,(besides myself) Albert Einstein, was a believer in God, he wasn't a Christian, but a God believer...I know this isn't the subject, but you are a known atheist. His statement about atheists:
Einstein tended to be more critical of debunkers, who seemed to lack
humility or a sense of awe, than of the faithful. “The fanatical
atheists,” he wrote in a letter, “are like slaves who are still feeling
the weight of their chains which they have thrown off after hard
struggle. They are creatures who–in their grudge against traditional
religion as the ‘opium of the masses’– cannot hear the music of the
spheres.” –TIME MAGAZINE
Einstein DID believe in God. It may not have been a “personal God”
but he did believe in God, he said so himself many times. He in fact
hated the idea of atheism.
Einstein believed that Mother Nature was god, sort of a Gaia 'theorist' before there was such a thing. I tend to agree with him
the punks do all the talking. go on now, tell me some story about how you fight MMA or something
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OK..I'm not talking anymore, it's time for action...let's get this done....box-BOY...be a man for once in your pathetic life....you can come back a hero and report back to your sissy covers friends...
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case in point
the punks do all the talking. go on now, tell me some story about how you fight MMA or something
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OK..I'm not talking anymore, it's time for action...let's get this done....box-BOY...be a man for once in your pathetic life....you can come back a hero and report back to your sissy covers friends...
I tell you what hero...let's find that out..pm me and we can arrange for a meeting face to face and find out...I do a lot of traveling and I'd LOVE to take you up on your offer....box-BOY..
calm down alex. My money would be all over Be kicking the shit out of you.
With that a side, you had better layoff the threatening of members before you get your sorry ass banned again alex p keaton
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I tell you what hero...let's find that out..pm me and we can arrange for a meeting face to face and find out...I do a lot of traveling and I'd LOVE to take you up on your offer....box-BOY..
calm down alex. My money would be all over Be kicking the shit out of you.
With that a side, you had better layoff the threatening of members before you get your sorry ass banned again alex p keaton
OK..I'm not talking anymore, it's time for action...let's get this done....box-BOY...be a man for once in your pathetic life....you can come back a hero and report back to your sissy covers friends...
A covers dance off!!!
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OK..I'm not talking anymore, it's time for action...let's get this done....box-BOY...be a man for once in your pathetic life....you can come back a hero and report back to your sissy covers friends...
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