look how many heavyweight fighters brains have been turned to mush. I have yet to see same thing happen to a MMA legend or retired MMA fighter.
Ken Shamrock is well on his way if he is not there already.
Ken Shamrock is well on his way if he is not there already.
Ken Shamrock is well on his way if he is not there already.
anyone who debates violence in sports is mildly handicapped....if you don't want to be injured playing football...then don't play....if you don't want your head punched then don't fight....if you choose to be a participant in a violent sport then expect violent outcomes....if your not strong or big enough to participate then go play golf.....if you are big and strong enough to participate then welcome to the inherent risks of big time violent sports...i don't care what happens to nfl players with concussions....if you don't want concussions then go drive truck for ups..........welcome to the world of inherent risk with the job YOU choose.....if you don't want to risk your health for the money then go sell insurance...
anyone who debates violence in sports is mildly handicapped....if you don't want to be injured playing football...then don't play....if you don't want your head punched then don't fight....if you choose to be a participant in a violent sport then expect violent outcomes....if your not strong or big enough to participate then go play golf.....if you are big and strong enough to participate then welcome to the inherent risks of big time violent sports...i don't care what happens to nfl players with concussions....if you don't want concussions then go drive truck for ups..........welcome to the world of inherent risk with the job YOU choose.....if you don't want to risk your health for the money then go sell insurance...
Non-athletes? I don't know about that. Most Pro MMA fighters are in pretty good shape. There is absolutely NO WAY that your average Joe off of the street could step into a cage and last more than 2 minutes without getting winded. Physical training plays a huge role in MMA just lke boxing.
And as far as speed goes, MMA is just like boxing in respect to the weight classes. Most lightweight fights are fast pace and exciting while the heavyweight fights can be much slower.
Non-athletes? I don't know about that. Most Pro MMA fighters are in pretty good shape. There is absolutely NO WAY that your average Joe off of the street could step into a cage and last more than 2 minutes without getting winded. Physical training plays a huge role in MMA just lke boxing.
And as far as speed goes, MMA is just like boxing in respect to the weight classes. Most lightweight fights are fast pace and exciting while the heavyweight fights can be much slower.
and I can also only assume that not one of you have ever been in a street fight because a street fight looks absolutely nothing like a mma fight.
boxing is a real sport, mma is just more advanced.
and I can also only assume that not one of you have ever been in a street fight because a street fight looks absolutely nothing like a mma fight.
boxing is a real sport, mma is just more advanced.
but there are no rules in a street fight. I have seen many street fights involve biting, pulling hair, hitting to the crotch, and clawing with nails ,not to mention kicking a guy in face when he is down or even unconsicous.
personally I would rather watch 2 guys box for a round or 2 wearing 4 ounce gloves rather than watch a guy taking 300 shots with14 ounce gloves to the head over the course of a 10 round fight. arturo gatti comes to mind.
but there are no rules in a street fight. I have seen many street fights involve biting, pulling hair, hitting to the crotch, and clawing with nails ,not to mention kicking a guy in face when he is down or even unconsicous.
personally I would rather watch 2 guys box for a round or 2 wearing 4 ounce gloves rather than watch a guy taking 300 shots with14 ounce gloves to the head over the course of a 10 round fight. arturo gatti comes to mind.
Just some points to address multiple posts in this thread
If the guy was 6'9" and only 170, chances are he probably dehydrated himself to make the weight, which obviously leads to less water and protection for the brain, making it more likely to be injured
Also MMA was regulated in SC just a short time ago, so there's a chance the Ref didn't stop it when it should have been due to being too inexperienced. I've been to an MMA event (I live in SC) a couple months ago and know people that fight in them and have fought in other states, and things aren't nearly as smooth yet.
I like boxing MUCH more than MMA, but boxers get head injuries more often and will continue to get it more often because usually traumatic brain injuries are due to MULTIPLE repeated punches, not necessarily the amount of the force. With 4oz gloves, chances are if you get blasted once, you go down and game over, and it's typically nothing long-term. With 12oz padded gloves, it's much easier to get pounded repeatedly over multiple rounds and still not drop. Chances are even though guys like Chuck Liddell and Tim Sylvia have glass chins, they won't follow in the footsteps of 15-20+ year old boxers who wind up drooling on themselves around age 65. Padding is meant to protect your hands, not your opponents head.
Just some points to address multiple posts in this thread
If the guy was 6'9" and only 170, chances are he probably dehydrated himself to make the weight, which obviously leads to less water and protection for the brain, making it more likely to be injured
Also MMA was regulated in SC just a short time ago, so there's a chance the Ref didn't stop it when it should have been due to being too inexperienced. I've been to an MMA event (I live in SC) a couple months ago and know people that fight in them and have fought in other states, and things aren't nearly as smooth yet.
I like boxing MUCH more than MMA, but boxers get head injuries more often and will continue to get it more often because usually traumatic brain injuries are due to MULTIPLE repeated punches, not necessarily the amount of the force. With 4oz gloves, chances are if you get blasted once, you go down and game over, and it's typically nothing long-term. With 12oz padded gloves, it's much easier to get pounded repeatedly over multiple rounds and still not drop. Chances are even though guys like Chuck Liddell and Tim Sylvia have glass chins, they won't follow in the footsteps of 15-20+ year old boxers who wind up drooling on themselves around age 65. Padding is meant to protect your hands, not your opponents head.
Exactly. It's like comparing Football to Rugby, the debate on what is better is pointless and tiresome. I like both MMA and boxing, for different reasons, because they're different sports.
and don't confuse Mayorga with a typical boxer either. . . his training consists of a daily pack of cigarettes and tequila shots
Exactly. It's like comparing Football to Rugby, the debate on what is better is pointless and tiresome. I like both MMA and boxing, for different reasons, because they're different sports.
and don't confuse Mayorga with a typical boxer either. . . his training consists of a daily pack of cigarettes and tequila shots
A couple weeks before the Mayorga/Vargas fight, HBO put them on via satellite during another match so they could talk shit and promote it. About halfway through, Mayorga lit up
dperr - here you go
A couple weeks before the Mayorga/Vargas fight, HBO put them on via satellite during another match so they could talk shit and promote it. About halfway through, Mayorga lit up
dperr - here you go
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