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Addictive traits rest in us all.
Whatever is effecting the Big 3 - then kick it to the curb. Work on steps. And wake up feeling brand new, each and every morning.
BIG 3 - Family, Friends, and Yourself. 
thats a simple way to spot the negative things in your life. good advice.
Quote Originally Posted by cave0707:
Detox,
I've been following this thread for awhile and I thought maybe I should share my experience with you. Last October I was hospitalized with alcohol induced acute pancreatitis. I was 36 years old at the time and a full blown drunkster. I drank everyday, prolly 5 to 10 beers a day ... everyday for at least 5 years and drank beers and mixed drinks for five more years prior to that. So I'd say I was a 10 year alcoholic.
Anyways acute pancreatitis is usually caused from gallstones or alcohol, there are some other exceptional cases but those two are the main ones. And once you get it from alcohol, your pancreas is prone to flaring up again which could lead to chronic pancreatitis. Needless to say that would be a complete nightmare. So I had to quit drinking. I had other medical issues prior to that and shortly thereafter which made my life hell. Because the one thing I really wanted was a damn drink to make things better temporarily, so I can relax and not stress about my illness and my financial problems.
It has been a really really long year for me. But it has been a long year without booze. My fight with alcoholism will prolly end up being a lifelong battle ... i loved my booze that much. I still miss it from time to time but I really don't have a choice in this matter. If its between me developing a lifelong illness or booze, well that pretty much seals the deal. Initially the "thought" of never drinking again scared the crap outta me. I didn't think I could go two or three weeks cause in those 10 years, I didn't go a week without drinking. I mean my life revolved around drinking. Everything I went to, parties, happy hour, sports events, you name it, if there was no alcohol, there was no cave0707 showing up. I really loved my booze bro. So I know what you're going through. I really do. Its tough no doubt. But just remember this, there are thousands, or prolly millions that have gone through what you're going through now. It can be done, you just find a way to stay sober today. Don't worry about tomorrow like I use to. Tomorrow doesn't matter if you drink today. So you fight it off however you have to. Everybody is different, do what works for you. Just remember, it will get better, you will feel better and life will turn for you. Just stay positive and take things one day at a time. Best of luck.
Everyone quits drugs & alcohol 1 of 2 ways....
1.) The want & need to stop.
2.) Death
Seems as if you were on the road to #2 and you made the wise decision and went with #1. Great decision.
You'll miss it. Shit, I miss it. I think we miss the feeling numb part more then the being drunk part.
Keep up the fine work, cave0707, and keep checkin' in with us.
You have a fan. I'm rootin' for ya.
Everyone quits drugs & alcohol 1 of 2 ways....
1.) The want & need to stop.
2.) Death
Seems as if you were on the road to #2 and you made the wise decision and went with #1. Great decision.
You'll miss it. Shit, I miss it. I think we miss the feeling numb part more then the being drunk part.
Keep up the fine work, cave0707, and keep checkin' in with us.
You have a fan. I'm rootin' for ya.
Most all of us are selfish sons of bitches, you only want to do what you want, watch football, bet, drink, take drugs, ohh my wife wants this or that, or my kid, or my parents, everything else takes a back seat when you are living the high flying invincible lifestyle. But a couple of us do wake up and realize ESPN on my TV is an incredible waste of time, and if you can get out of the fantasy land and your mind and body gives you a chance, the real world is actually a high in itself. Your still young just don't get a DWI or one of your dirtys pregnant, especially know when you are waking up. Good luck brother.
Most all of us are selfish sons of bitches, you only want to do what you want, watch football, bet, drink, take drugs, ohh my wife wants this or that, or my kid, or my parents, everything else takes a back seat when you are living the high flying invincible lifestyle. But a couple of us do wake up and realize ESPN on my TV is an incredible waste of time, and if you can get out of the fantasy land and your mind and body gives you a chance, the real world is actually a high in itself. Your still young just don't get a DWI or one of your dirtys pregnant, especially know when you are waking up. Good luck brother.
Most all of us are selfish sons of bitches, you only want to do what you want, watch football, bet, drink, take drugs, ohh my wife wants this or that, or my kid, or my parents, everything else takes a back seat when you are living the high flying invincible lifestyle. But a couple of us do wake up and realize ESPN on my TV is an incredible waste of time, and if you can get out of the fantasy land and your mind and body gives you a chance, the real world is actually a high in itself. Your still young just don't get a DWI or one of your dirtys pregnant, especially know when you are waking up. Good luck brother.
well said
it's terrible to have to go to pure abstinence. I spent 16 days in the hospital with acute pancreatitis 2 yrs ago. I went 2 months w/out any booze, then fell off the wagon at my brother's wedding. I have drank everyday since then, but I maintain a low fat diet to make up the difference for my pancreas. I also have been thru the opiates and methadone and now suboxen. I limit my dose of suboxen to less than half of what I am prescribed. I drink and take suboxen daily and have never been more content, happy, and grounded and fulfilled and healthy. I know this is an abhorrent post to some of you, but I just want to point out that our minds can be stretched in ways that permit co-habitation with our bodies. I know it is not for all, but turning into a raving stoic can slowly erase one's soul just like substance abuse can erode the body. It's a gamble - we are not immortal, our days are finite, and if substances enhance the experience our souls go through for the better, well - then it is more difficult than just quit altogether or die. Life is soulful as much as bodiful at least.
I am sober while typing this, and I stand behind these thoughts wholeheartedly. Good Luck to any brave soul who contemplates the effects of their perception, emotion, and existence beyond the mundane teachings of mass morality.
Have you ever gone to an aa meeting? They might help you.
Most people will never understand. Its hard for me to understand and i have lived it and read about it for a while now.
Thanks for the kind words. I wish you the best of luck on your journey.
it's terrible to have to go to pure abstinence. I spent 16 days in the hospital with acute pancreatitis 2 yrs ago. I went 2 months w/out any booze, then fell off the wagon at my brother's wedding. I have drank everyday since then, but I maintain a low fat diet to make up the difference for my pancreas. I also have been thru the opiates and methadone and now suboxen. I limit my dose of suboxen to less than half of what I am prescribed. I drink and take suboxen daily and have never been more content, happy, and grounded and fulfilled and healthy. I know this is an abhorrent post to some of you, but I just want to point out that our minds can be stretched in ways that permit co-habitation with our bodies. I know it is not for all, but turning into a raving stoic can slowly erase one's soul just like substance abuse can erode the body. It's a gamble - we are not immortal, our days are finite, and if substances enhance the experience our souls go through for the better, well - then it is more difficult than just quit altogether or die. Life is soulful as much as bodiful at least.
I am sober while typing this, and I stand behind these thoughts wholeheartedly. Good Luck to any brave soul who contemplates the effects of their perception, emotion, and existence beyond the mundane teachings of mass morality.
Yes i attend. I have been battling this since i was 20. I am 30 now. I have had 5 years of sobriety is the last 10 years. I could write a book on the disease.
whats it like ... its hard to describe. Most meetings are one hour, one person will be the main speaker( must be sober for 90 days to speak ) ... they will share their experience with booze, what it did to them, how it made them feel, the trouble that was caused etc ... then they will talk about how life is these days now that they're sober. i would highly recommend it. for some reason when you identify with the speakers it gives you relief and hope. and you will identify with the way they drank and the way that they feel.
Give it a shot. If the first meeting sucks don't give up on it. I promise you you'll find meetings and guys that you can relate to/would have drank with.
GL, just ask if you have any other questions on the AA stuff.
No relapses - nad as you know, it is scary and painful as anything a guy can endure - I do drink every day, and quite a bit at times(1/2 liter whiskey) .... i make sure that my diet is very low in fat and cholesterol ....I also try to make sure to cleanse my body with plenty of liquids and exercise... I also was told by Doctors that I could never drink again, but a few Dr golf buddies let me know their honest opinion ; while they tell patients to never drink again, actually relapses are only common with terrible drinking and eating habits. I don't want this post to be your gateway to booze it up again, just if you do, watch your diet and don't worry too much about it. Every once in a while I eat poorly and drink too much and get paranoid if I feel a little tender in the abdomen - then I cool it for a while. Good Luck bro
No relapses - nad as you know, it is scary and painful as anything a guy can endure - I do drink every day, and quite a bit at times(1/2 liter whiskey) .... i make sure that my diet is very low in fat and cholesterol ....I also try to make sure to cleanse my body with plenty of liquids and exercise... I also was told by Doctors that I could never drink again, but a few Dr golf buddies let me know their honest opinion ; while they tell patients to never drink again, actually relapses are only common with terrible drinking and eating habits. I don't want this post to be your gateway to booze it up again, just if you do, watch your diet and don't worry too much about it. Every once in a while I eat poorly and drink too much and get paranoid if I feel a little tender in the abdomen - then I cool it for a while. Good Luck bro
Thats some shitty information bro. What active alky cares about their fucking nutrition.
Thats one of the worst answers ive seen. You should be looking for help instead of giving advice.
Dont take it the wrong way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgFQ6WmxdMs
i've been going to a lot of meetings.
i've been sober ever since i started this thread. that amazes me.
i'm starting RE classes Oct 15th, 16th, 21st, 22nd .. 8am-7pm.
can't hurt to get my license and sell a few in between my personal projects.
I've been in and out of AA sice i was 20. so, for the past ten years. I finally asked a dude to be my sponsor.
He(sponsor) broke his neck when he was 9 months sober. He was in a half way house. He then went to a state scool to get his bachelors, BU for his masters and the BC Law School. he is now 32 years sober. He is friends with my father so i always trusted him. He actually reached out to me and we talked for a few hours.
Its pretty cool when you can explain all of your problems to somebody and they know exactly what you're talking about. I also like the things that he has accomplished so i feel comfortable bouncing my own professional problems off of him and respecting his answer.
AA is a pretty cool place.
mess, how do you do it for so long? man, i can't do it anymore i don't think. the booze kills me. my nerves .... gonzo.
you travel a lot by yourself right?
thats hard.
Established in 1995,
Went on a 4 day bender on my vacation to Chicago and have felt like crap ever since. Hopefully, just a bad cold like i originally thought.
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