the charges that were brought up under todays indictment stem from some rather hefty charges. It is presumed that the site owners were running a scheme to set up bank accounts and transfer illegal gambling funds. US checking accounts are use for illegel gambling transfers.
IF YOU ARE USING YOUR CHECKING ACCOUNT FOR ANY WITH SPORTBOOKS THATS ILLEGEL
FBI CAN FREEZE YOUR ACCOUNT
Wrong.
If you are FACILITATING a money transfer, you can be pursued.
The DOJ is not interested in hassling poker players. The law prohibits everyone except the player - the bank, the provider of the gambling service - but not the gambler himself - to do these transactions.
Dont go scaring people with bullshit that you know nothign about.
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Quote Originally Posted by bigstorm:
the charges that were brought up under todays indictment stem from some rather hefty charges. It is presumed that the site owners were running a scheme to set up bank accounts and transfer illegal gambling funds. US checking accounts are use for illegel gambling transfers.
IF YOU ARE USING YOUR CHECKING ACCOUNT FOR ANY WITH SPORTBOOKS THATS ILLEGEL
FBI CAN FREEZE YOUR ACCOUNT
Wrong.
If you are FACILITATING a money transfer, you can be pursued.
The DOJ is not interested in hassling poker players. The law prohibits everyone except the player - the bank, the provider of the gambling service - but not the gambler himself - to do these transactions.
Dont go scaring people with bullshit that you know nothign about.
First of all Poker Starts has not been shut down. They are no longer accepting real money play from US players. The site is NOT shutdown. I'm wiling to bet any fucking moron from outside the US can and is playing as I type this.
The US was able to arrest the owner(s)/operator(s) of PStars, Full-tilt, etc because they were obviously IN the US and the Feds knew this. Fuck they even said a few were out of the country and one was going to turn himself in.
This shit going on is not World-Wide. It pertains to the United States and the United States only. Any and all banks affiliated with the money laundering, fraud, etc...whatever the fuck you want to call it have had their assets seized. The rest of the world is ok.
This whole shit only has an effect on US players, banks, etc...
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First of all Poker Starts has not been shut down. They are no longer accepting real money play from US players. The site is NOT shutdown. I'm wiling to bet any fucking moron from outside the US can and is playing as I type this.
The US was able to arrest the owner(s)/operator(s) of PStars, Full-tilt, etc because they were obviously IN the US and the Feds knew this. Fuck they even said a few were out of the country and one was going to turn himself in.
This shit going on is not World-Wide. It pertains to the United States and the United States only. Any and all banks affiliated with the money laundering, fraud, etc...whatever the fuck you want to call it have had their assets seized. The rest of the world is ok.
This whole shit only has an effect on US players, banks, etc...
It's not the like the US government is seizing money from the accounts of the douche bags playing in England or Russia or wherever the fuck they are. It is only us fucks in the US.
The US DoJ can obviously do whatever the fuck they want to us fucks because we live here.
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It's not the like the US government is seizing money from the accounts of the douche bags playing in England or Russia or wherever the fuck they are. It is only us fucks in the US.
The US DoJ can obviously do whatever the fuck they want to us fucks because we live here.
First of all Poker Starts has not been shut down. They are no longer accepting real money play from US players. The site is NOT shutdown. I'm wiling to bet any fucking moron from outside the US can and is playing as I type this.
The US was able to arrest the owner(s)/operator(s) of PStars, Full-tilt, etc because they were obviously IN the US and the Feds knew this. Fuck they even said a few were out of the country and one was going to turn himself in.
This shit going on is not World-Wide. It pertains to the United States and the United States only. Any and all banks affiliated with the money laundering, fraud, etc...whatever the fuck you want to call it have had their assets seized. The rest of the world is ok.
This whole shit only has an effect on US players, banks, etc...
Sir -
You consistently - from the start of this thread - post the most utterly moronic statements possible. Just stop. From your emoticon only posts, to your self proclaimed wasted drunk posts - you add nothing of value.
Start by looking up the difference between the terms indictment and arrest.
Then, go on twoplustwo or any other poker venue and read what is actually happening to players worldwide. Will they get their money and be back to normal eventually? Maybe. But right now the atmosphere is chaotic - and there is big money at stake.
So please dont try to minimize the situation by making blanket claims that you really arent factual - just speculation. If you are going to speculate and post opinions - that is encouraged - just post that it is speculation and dont disguise it as fact.
Better yet, just stay out of this thread. You insist on posting in it - but add nothing - but just cant stay away. Give it a try.
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Quote Originally Posted by RickeM:
First of all Poker Starts has not been shut down. They are no longer accepting real money play from US players. The site is NOT shutdown. I'm wiling to bet any fucking moron from outside the US can and is playing as I type this.
The US was able to arrest the owner(s)/operator(s) of PStars, Full-tilt, etc because they were obviously IN the US and the Feds knew this. Fuck they even said a few were out of the country and one was going to turn himself in.
This shit going on is not World-Wide. It pertains to the United States and the United States only. Any and all banks affiliated with the money laundering, fraud, etc...whatever the fuck you want to call it have had their assets seized. The rest of the world is ok.
This whole shit only has an effect on US players, banks, etc...
Sir -
You consistently - from the start of this thread - post the most utterly moronic statements possible. Just stop. From your emoticon only posts, to your self proclaimed wasted drunk posts - you add nothing of value.
Start by looking up the difference between the terms indictment and arrest.
Then, go on twoplustwo or any other poker venue and read what is actually happening to players worldwide. Will they get their money and be back to normal eventually? Maybe. But right now the atmosphere is chaotic - and there is big money at stake.
So please dont try to minimize the situation by making blanket claims that you really arent factual - just speculation. If you are going to speculate and post opinions - that is encouraged - just post that it is speculation and dont disguise it as fact.
Better yet, just stay out of this thread. You insist on posting in it - but add nothing - but just cant stay away. Give it a try.
Ah yes, the Government will want more than just the taxes on the player's winnings. There's a lot more to be had from getting some of his losings - the Poker sites' profits! Gotta tax or share that also.
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Quote Originally Posted by Renton2010:
Provincially regulated.
Revenue is shared.
Ah yes, the Government will want more than just the taxes on the player's winnings. There's a lot more to be had from getting some of his losings - the Poker sites' profits! Gotta tax or share that also.
You consistently - from the start of this thread - post the most utterly moronic statements possible. Just stop. From your emoticon only posts, to your self proclaimed wasted drunk posts - you add nothing of value.
Start by looking up the difference between the terms indictment and arrest.
Then, go on twoplustwo or any other poker venue and read what is actually happening to players worldwide. Will they get their money and be back to normal eventually? Maybe. But right now the atmosphere is chaotic - and there is big money at stake.
So please dont try to minimize the situation by making blanket claims that you really arent factual - just speculation. If you are going to speculate and post opinions - that is encouraged - just post that it is speculation and dont disguise it as fact.
Better yet, just stay out of this thread. You insist on posting in it - but add nothing - but just cant stay away. Give it a try.
Do explain what posts are moronic.
Log into into pokerstars right now and you can clearly see that there are people playing real money games as we speak.
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Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:
Sir -
You consistently - from the start of this thread - post the most utterly moronic statements possible. Just stop. From your emoticon only posts, to your self proclaimed wasted drunk posts - you add nothing of value.
Start by looking up the difference between the terms indictment and arrest.
Then, go on twoplustwo or any other poker venue and read what is actually happening to players worldwide. Will they get their money and be back to normal eventually? Maybe. But right now the atmosphere is chaotic - and there is big money at stake.
So please dont try to minimize the situation by making blanket claims that you really arent factual - just speculation. If you are going to speculate and post opinions - that is encouraged - just post that it is speculation and dont disguise it as fact.
Better yet, just stay out of this thread. You insist on posting in it - but add nothing - but just cant stay away. Give it a try.
Do explain what posts are moronic.
Log into into pokerstars right now and you can clearly see that there are people playing real money games as we speak.
It's not the like the US government is seizing money from the accounts of the douche bags playing in England or Russia or wherever the fuck they are. It is only us fucks in the US.
The US DoJ can obviously do whatever the fuck they want to us fucks because we live here.
Another example of elevated stupidity.
The government is not "seizing the money of US fucks in the US".
The govt has seized 75 accts of the poker websites. The DOJ isnt doing anything to the "US fucks who live here" directly.
Will the seized accts affect the ability of these websites to pay their accts worldwide and continue to operate? Maybe - and that is the concern here - not that an American is going to get his checking acct frozen by the DOJ - but that this will be a crippling blow along with a run on the poker sites to payout worldwide that MIGHT cause a financial insolvency in the poker world.
What is so hard to get about this?
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Quote Originally Posted by RickeM:
It's not the like the US government is seizing money from the accounts of the douche bags playing in England or Russia or wherever the fuck they are. It is only us fucks in the US.
The US DoJ can obviously do whatever the fuck they want to us fucks because we live here.
Another example of elevated stupidity.
The government is not "seizing the money of US fucks in the US".
The govt has seized 75 accts of the poker websites. The DOJ isnt doing anything to the "US fucks who live here" directly.
Will the seized accts affect the ability of these websites to pay their accts worldwide and continue to operate? Maybe - and that is the concern here - not that an American is going to get his checking acct frozen by the DOJ - but that this will be a crippling blow along with a run on the poker sites to payout worldwide that MIGHT cause a financial insolvency in the poker world.
You consistently - from the start of this thread - post the most utterly moronic statements possible. Just stop. From your emoticon only posts, to your self proclaimed wasted drunk posts - you add nothing of value.
Start by looking up the difference between the terms indictment and arrest.
Then, go on twoplustwo or any other poker venue and read what is actually happening to players worldwide. Will they get their money and be back to normal eventually? Maybe. But right now the atmosphere is chaotic - and there is big money at stake.
So please dont try to minimize the situation by making blanket claims that you really arent factual - just speculation. If you are going to speculate and post opinions - that is encouraged - just post that it is speculation and dont disguise it as fact.
Better yet, just stay out of this thread. You insist on posting in it - but add nothing - but just cant stay away. Give it a try.
The foremost expert in online gambling. Please breakdown this post sentence by sentence.
I'll be waiting.
Better go back and re-read everything I posted.
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Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:
Sir -
You consistently - from the start of this thread - post the most utterly moronic statements possible. Just stop. From your emoticon only posts, to your self proclaimed wasted drunk posts - you add nothing of value.
Start by looking up the difference between the terms indictment and arrest.
Then, go on twoplustwo or any other poker venue and read what is actually happening to players worldwide. Will they get their money and be back to normal eventually? Maybe. But right now the atmosphere is chaotic - and there is big money at stake.
So please dont try to minimize the situation by making blanket claims that you really arent factual - just speculation. If you are going to speculate and post opinions - that is encouraged - just post that it is speculation and dont disguise it as fact.
Better yet, just stay out of this thread. You insist on posting in it - but add nothing - but just cant stay away. Give it a try.
The foremost expert in online gambling. Please breakdown this post sentence by sentence.
Log into into pokerstars right now and you can clearly see that there are people playing real money games as we speak.
Once again, the issue is not whether the site is up and running as of this moment.
The issue is whether they are going to be able to pay, and continue to pay, existing players. And whether they can be an ongoing entity to service poker players worldwide.
Your point is that because you see people in Europe playing poker right now that everything is OK? Did you expect them to shut down and cause more of a panic? You cant be serious.
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Quote Originally Posted by RickeM:
Do explain what posts are moronic.
Log into into pokerstars right now and you can clearly see that there are people playing real money games as we speak.
Once again, the issue is not whether the site is up and running as of this moment.
The issue is whether they are going to be able to pay, and continue to pay, existing players. And whether they can be an ongoing entity to service poker players worldwide.
Your point is that because you see people in Europe playing poker right now that everything is OK? Did you expect them to shut down and cause more of a panic? You cant be serious.
The government is not "seizing the money of US fucks in the US".
The govt has seized 75 accts of the poker websites. The DOJ isnt doing anything to the "US fucks who live here" directly.
Will the seized accts affect the ability of these websites to pay their accts worldwide and continue to operate? Maybe - and that is the concern here - not that an American is going to get his checking acct frozen by the DOJ - but that this will be a crippling blow along with a run on the poker sites to payout worldwide that MIGHT cause a financial insolvency in the poker world.
What is so hard to get about this?
Hey dumb fuck, apparently you misunderstood what I was saying. I was not saying that the DoJ is freezing your checking account or savings account, or whatever the fuck you have. I was referring to you online poker account, not your goddamn bank account.
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Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:
Another example of elevated stupidity.
The government is not "seizing the money of US fucks in the US".
The govt has seized 75 accts of the poker websites. The DOJ isnt doing anything to the "US fucks who live here" directly.
Will the seized accts affect the ability of these websites to pay their accts worldwide and continue to operate? Maybe - and that is the concern here - not that an American is going to get his checking acct frozen by the DOJ - but that this will be a crippling blow along with a run on the poker sites to payout worldwide that MIGHT cause a financial insolvency in the poker world.
What is so hard to get about this?
Hey dumb fuck, apparently you misunderstood what I was saying. I was not saying that the DoJ is freezing your checking account or savings account, or whatever the fuck you have. I was referring to you online poker account, not your goddamn bank account.
Once again, the issue is not whether the site is up and running as of this moment.
The issue is whether they are going to be able to pay, and continue to pay, existing players. And whether they can be an ongoing entity to service poker players worldwide.
Your point is that because you see people in Europe playing poker right now that everything is OK? Did you expect them to shut down and cause more of a panic? You cant be serious.
Oh boy...
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Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:
Once again, the issue is not whether the site is up and running as of this moment.
The issue is whether they are going to be able to pay, and continue to pay, existing players. And whether they can be an ongoing entity to service poker players worldwide.
Your point is that because you see people in Europe playing poker right now that everything is OK? Did you expect them to shut down and cause more of a panic? You cant be serious.
The foremost expert in online gambling. Please breakdown this post sentence by sentence.
I'll be waiting.
Better go back and re-read everything I posted.
Im not an expert in anthing. In fact, I clearly state when I am stating an opinion, and I choose my words carefully.
I am stating that things are very fluid right now, and you should be aware of what is going on.
If you assume I am the "foremost gambling expert" at covers because I make a post and there is 18K views and 175 responses - that is your assumption - but I dont claim to be that. I am just another guy with an opinion who might or might not be right about anything - but can certainly intelligently discuss things rather than making blanket claims about things I know nothing about.
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Quote Originally Posted by RickeM:
The foremost expert in online gambling. Please breakdown this post sentence by sentence.
I'll be waiting.
Better go back and re-read everything I posted.
Im not an expert in anthing. In fact, I clearly state when I am stating an opinion, and I choose my words carefully.
I am stating that things are very fluid right now, and you should be aware of what is going on.
If you assume I am the "foremost gambling expert" at covers because I make a post and there is 18K views and 175 responses - that is your assumption - but I dont claim to be that. I am just another guy with an opinion who might or might not be right about anything - but can certainly intelligently discuss things rather than making blanket claims about things I know nothing about.
Once again, the issue is not whether the site is up and running as of this moment.
The issue is whether they are going to be able to pay, and continue to pay, existing players. And whether they can be an ongoing entity to service poker players worldwide.
Your point is that because you see people in Europe playing poker right now that everything is OK? Did you expect them to shut down and cause more of a panic? You cant be serious.
So you're telling me that the site would be u and running if they were "able to pay, and continue to pay, existing players. And whether they
can be an ongoing entity to service poker players worldwide"?
Give me a break.
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Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:
Once again, the issue is not whether the site is up and running as of this moment.
The issue is whether they are going to be able to pay, and continue to pay, existing players. And whether they can be an ongoing entity to service poker players worldwide.
Your point is that because you see people in Europe playing poker right now that everything is OK? Did you expect them to shut down and cause more of a panic? You cant be serious.
So you're telling me that the site would be u and running if they were "able to pay, and continue to pay, existing players. And whether they
can be an ongoing entity to service poker players worldwide"?
Hey dumb fuck, apparently you misunderstood what I was saying. I was not saying that the DoJ is freezing your checking account or savings account, or whatever the fuck you have. I was referring to you online poker account, not your goddamn bank account.
Well, strike two then.
The DOJ is not freezing your online poker account either.
They froze operating accounts of the poker sites, so stating that they will freeze your online poker account is like saying if Tom Brady gets cut you lose your season tickets to the Pats games.
You lose again.
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Quote Originally Posted by RickeM:
Hey dumb fuck, apparently you misunderstood what I was saying. I was not saying that the DoJ is freezing your checking account or savings account, or whatever the fuck you have. I was referring to you online poker account, not your goddamn bank account.
Well, strike two then.
The DOJ is not freezing your online poker account either.
They froze operating accounts of the poker sites, so stating that they will freeze your online poker account is like saying if Tom Brady gets cut you lose your season tickets to the Pats games.
First of all Poker Starts has not been shut down. They are no longer accepting real money play from US players. The site is NOT shutdown. I'm wiling to bet any fucking moron from outside the US can and is playing as I type this.
The US was able to arrest the owner(s)/operator(s) of PStars, Full-tilt, etc because they were obviously IN the US and the Feds knew this. Fuck they even said a few were out of the country and one was going to turn himself in.
This shit going on is not World-Wide. It pertains to the United States and the United States only. Any and all banks affiliated with the money laundering, fraud, etc...whatever the fuck you want to call it have had their assets seized. The rest of the world is ok.
This whole shit only has an effect on US players, banks, etc...
Did you look up the difference between indict and arrest yet?
Still waiting for that report.
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Quote Originally Posted by RickeM:
First of all Poker Starts has not been shut down. They are no longer accepting real money play from US players. The site is NOT shutdown. I'm wiling to bet any fucking moron from outside the US can and is playing as I type this.
The US was able to arrest the owner(s)/operator(s) of PStars, Full-tilt, etc because they were obviously IN the US and the Feds knew this. Fuck they even said a few were out of the country and one was going to turn himself in.
This shit going on is not World-Wide. It pertains to the United States and the United States only. Any and all banks affiliated with the money laundering, fraud, etc...whatever the fuck you want to call it have had their assets seized. The rest of the world is ok.
This whole shit only has an effect on US players, banks, etc...
Did you look up the difference between indict and arrest yet?
Im not an expert in anthing. In fact, I clearly state when I am stating an opinion, and I choose my words carefully.
I am stating that things are very fluid right now, and you should be aware of what is going on.
If you assume I am the "foremost gambling expert" at covers because I make a post and there is 18K views and 175 responses - that is your assumption - but I dont claim to be that. I am just another guy with an opinion who might or might not be right about anything - but can certainly intelligently discuss things rather than making blanket claims about things I know nothing about.
No, I definitely do not. That was sarcasm.
I meant account, as in the money you have in your online poker account, not the money you have in your Chase account.
I never said the DoJ was freezing you Burger King paychecks. So take the fuck easy.
Jesus fucking Christ.
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Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:
Im not an expert in anthing. In fact, I clearly state when I am stating an opinion, and I choose my words carefully.
I am stating that things are very fluid right now, and you should be aware of what is going on.
If you assume I am the "foremost gambling expert" at covers because I make a post and there is 18K views and 175 responses - that is your assumption - but I dont claim to be that. I am just another guy with an opinion who might or might not be right about anything - but can certainly intelligently discuss things rather than making blanket claims about things I know nothing about.
No, I definitely do not. That was sarcasm.
I meant account, as in the money you have in your online poker account, not the money you have in your Chase account.
I never said the DoJ was freezing you Burger King paychecks. So take the fuck easy.
The DOJ is not freezing your online poker account either.
They froze operating accounts of the poker sites, so stating that they will freeze your online poker account is like saying if Tom Brady gets cut you lose your season tickets to the Pats games.
You lose again.
Oh my Christ. I know you are just fucking with me.
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Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:
Well, strike two then.
The DOJ is not freezing your online poker account either.
They froze operating accounts of the poker sites, so stating that they will freeze your online poker account is like saying if Tom Brady gets cut you lose your season tickets to the Pats games.
You lose again.
Oh my Christ. I know you are just fucking with me.
Hey vanzack if you are a US player you cannot withdraw money from Pokerstars right now. Get it? Wherever that money is, if you are a US player you cannot withdraw it. Is that simple enough for you?
If you live outside the US you probably still can.
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Hey vanzack if you are a US player you cannot withdraw money from Pokerstars right now. Get it? Wherever that money is, if you are a US player you cannot withdraw it. Is that simple enough for you?
If you live outside the US you probably still can.
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THATS ILLEGEL
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