I disagree. In New York, you can prove manslaughter without showing any proof of " intent to cause a deprivation of life ". A conviction for manslaughter is appropriate upon proof of a showing of reckless disregard for life. They are very different standards.
You are correct that in NY, there are two levels of manslaughter (first degree, with required intent,and second degree, often called involuntary manslaughter).
A person commits second-degree manslaughter when he or she (a) recklessly causes the death of another person; (b) commits an unjustified abortional act upon a female which causes her death; or (c) commits assisted suicide. According to Section 15.05 of the Penal Code, a person acts "recklessly" with respect to a result or circumstance when he or she is "aware of and consciously disregards a substantial and unjustifiable risk that such result will occur or that such circumstance exists." The risk that the person creates must be of such nature or magnitude that his or her disregard of it constitutes a "gross deviation from the standard -
But in so proving this, you are still going to have to essentially show intent because 1) you will have to show that Stewart knew he was on the track and 2) that Stewart actually took steps that were reckless in nature (speeding up) or driving towards him.
I just can't see how you get there.
But negligence is possible. For that, they may only to have to show that Stewart did not act reasonably under the circumstances because he didn't slow down.
Much less of a burden.
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Quote Originally Posted by 1129ken:
I disagree. In New York, you can prove manslaughter without showing any proof of " intent to cause a deprivation of life ". A conviction for manslaughter is appropriate upon proof of a showing of reckless disregard for life. They are very different standards.
You are correct that in NY, there are two levels of manslaughter (first degree, with required intent,and second degree, often called involuntary manslaughter).
A person commits second-degree manslaughter when he or she (a) recklessly causes the death of another person; (b) commits an unjustified abortional act upon a female which causes her death; or (c) commits assisted suicide. According to Section 15.05 of the Penal Code, a person acts "recklessly" with respect to a result or circumstance when he or she is "aware of and consciously disregards a substantial and unjustifiable risk that such result will occur or that such circumstance exists." The risk that the person creates must be of such nature or magnitude that his or her disregard of it constitutes a "gross deviation from the standard -
But in so proving this, you are still going to have to essentially show intent because 1) you will have to show that Stewart knew he was on the track and 2) that Stewart actually took steps that were reckless in nature (speeding up) or driving towards him.
I just can't see how you get there.
But negligence is possible. For that, they may only to have to show that Stewart did not act reasonably under the circumstances because he didn't slow down.
DJ. How hard would negligence be to prove if he simply says he didn't see him until last second?
That is a good question. I really don't know the rules associated with racing (yellow flags, caution, are drivers required to slow down, not pass, etc). But those factors will absolutely come into play.
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Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:
DJ. How hard would negligence be to prove if he simply says he didn't see him until last second?
That is a good question. I really don't know the rules associated with racing (yellow flags, caution, are drivers required to slow down, not pass, etc). But those factors will absolutely come into play.
I'm still a little surprised that NASCAR hasn't (since this incident) created a rule that says once out of your car under any circumstances you must immediately proceed to a safe area off the racing surface. Failure to do so will result in suspensions and fines.
As far as Stewart is concerned I think all he has to say is I never saw the guy (in black) until I was a few feet away, gassed the car to move the back end (which would travel by closer to the pedestrian) which is why the car moved to the right AFTER contact.
Part of the car moving right was the guys body causing a lack of traction on the right rear tire meaning the left rear was doing the driving.
Further, this kicking dirt up on the kid theory is nonsense. The dirt in the groove area is compacted and would be unlikely to "kick up" as assumed. The only loose dirt is kicked up under maximum power and resides along the retaining wall.
This year is a bust for Stewart anyway, he'll take the year off and be back next year after this blows over. Sponsors won't be so anxious to abandon him after the police announce that Stewart didn't do anything wrong. They still might, but the chances are diminished.
so all of that 'stuff' flying behind the cars when they drift around every single corner, what's that 'dirt' looking stuff?
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Quote Originally Posted by Raisethis2:
I'm still a little surprised that NASCAR hasn't (since this incident) created a rule that says once out of your car under any circumstances you must immediately proceed to a safe area off the racing surface. Failure to do so will result in suspensions and fines.
As far as Stewart is concerned I think all he has to say is I never saw the guy (in black) until I was a few feet away, gassed the car to move the back end (which would travel by closer to the pedestrian) which is why the car moved to the right AFTER contact.
Part of the car moving right was the guys body causing a lack of traction on the right rear tire meaning the left rear was doing the driving.
Further, this kicking dirt up on the kid theory is nonsense. The dirt in the groove area is compacted and would be unlikely to "kick up" as assumed. The only loose dirt is kicked up under maximum power and resides along the retaining wall.
This year is a bust for Stewart anyway, he'll take the year off and be back next year after this blows over. Sponsors won't be so anxious to abandon him after the police announce that Stewart didn't do anything wrong. They still might, but the chances are diminished.
so all of that 'stuff' flying behind the cars when they drift around every single corner, what's that 'dirt' looking stuff?
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