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    Who was the worst US president ever?

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    Posted: May. 6, 2019 - 2:26 PM ET #1

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    Posted: May. 6, 2019 - 10:14 PM ET #2

    William Henry Harrison

    Gave very long inaugural speech, clocked at an hour and 45 minutes. Delivered on a brutally cold day, he caught a cold, which turned into pneumonia, and he died after 32 days in office......

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    William Henry Harrison

    Gave very long inaugural speech, clocked at an hour and 45 minutes. Delivered on a brutally cold day, he caught a cold, which turned into pneumonia, and he died after 32 days in office......

    F'in idiot thumbs_down

     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2019 - 4:30 AM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by strippersnbens:

    thanks
     I don't remember which president was worse. Everything was bad and good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strippersnbens:

    thanks
     I don't remember which president was worse. Everything was bad and good.

     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2019 - 6:58 AM ET #4

    Per my Father (RIP), a well educated historian among other things, his opinion always was the Presidency of Ulysses S. Grant.
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    Per my Father (RIP), a well educated historian among other things, his opinion always was the Presidency of Ulysses S. Grant.
     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2019 - 10:15 PM ET #5

    The Hawk,  You made me laugh out loud  peace_5

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    The Hawk,  You made me laugh out loud  peace_5

     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2019 - 8:19 AM ET #6

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    Posted: May. 8, 2019 - 7:42 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by da101:

    In my lifetime, Carter. I remember my wife and myself moved into a condo. 12.5 % interest only because we had 10K to put down. Interest rates hit 23% in some instances.   He was a sensitive man, but not Presidential material in the least. Castro so made a fool of Carter.

    My parents had just paid off their house and were raking in over 10% interest on a savings account. They were lucky. So much about life is timing. Most of it is chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by da101:

    In my lifetime, Carter. I remember my wife and myself moved into a condo. 12.5 % interest only because we had 10K to put down. Interest rates hit 23% in some instances.   He was a sensitive man, but not Presidential material in the least. Castro so made a fool of Carter.

    My parents had just paid off their house and were raking in over 10% interest on a savings account. They were lucky. So much about life is timing. Most of it is chance.

     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2019 - 8:13 AM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by The Hawk:

    William Henry Harrison

    Gave very long inaugural speech, clocked at an hour and 45 minutes. Delivered on a brutally cold day, he caught a cold, which turned into pneumonia, and he died after 32 days in office......

    F'in idiot thumbs_down

    Just came across this  interesting post based fact, as always; 'good stuff Hawk' 

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hawk:

    William Henry Harrison

    Gave very long inaugural speech, clocked at an hour and 45 minutes. Delivered on a brutally cold day, he caught a cold, which turned into pneumonia, and he died after 32 days in office......

    F'in idiot thumbs_down

    Just came across this  interesting post based fact, as always; 'good stuff Hawk' 

     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2019 - 8:32 AM ET #9

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    Posted: May. 10, 2019 - 8:52 PM ET #10


    Complete Media and Corporate Fukks™ BS about Carter.

    You guys laugh but The Hawk is spot on about William Henry Harrison.

    Don't want to steal your thunder strippers bends but you need to start a Thread on "The Best Presidents".
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    Complete Media and Corporate Fukks™ BS about Carter.

    You guys laugh but The Hawk is spot on about William Henry Harrison.

    Don't want to steal your thunder strippers bends but you need to start a Thread on "The Best Presidents".
     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2019 - 2:08 AM ET #11

    Harding, Warren, G. Linked to the great depression.
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    Harding, Warren, G. Linked to the great depression.
     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2019 - 9:55 AM ET #12

    Z, you gotta quit posting so much, you're gonna wear out your keyboard.....

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    Z, you gotta quit posting so much, you're gonna wear out your keyboard.....

     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2019 - 6:39 PM ET #13

    Well...gotta say Trump is the best.  My investments are currently earning 20 points. Obama has to be the worst, and I'm a Democrat.  My 401K is thru the roof since Trump took over
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    Well...gotta say Trump is the best.  My investments are currently earning 20 points. Obama has to be the worst, and I'm a Democrat.  My 401K is thru the roof since Trump took over
     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2019 - 8:18 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by mbialowas:

    Well...gotta say Trump is the best.  My investments are currently earning 20 points. Obama has to be the worst, and I'm a Democrat.  My 401K is thru the roof since Trump took over
    Are you basing your opinion on stock market gain?

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    Try again. I do not know enough history to have a educated opinion but this ain't it. Never understood the fascination with Kennedy. The Bay of Pigs was a disaster. They trained people on farms in my town and just abandoned them when sheet got nut. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by mbialowas:

    Well...gotta say Trump is the best.  My investments are currently earning 20 points. Obama has to be the worst, and I'm a Democrat.  My 401K is thru the roof since Trump took over
    Are you basing your opinion on stock market gain?

    Feb, 1, 2009 S&P 500 883.24
    Nov 1 2016 - 2,164.99

    Try again. I do not know enough history to have a educated opinion but this ain't it. Never understood the fascination with Kennedy. The Bay of Pigs was a disaster. They trained people on farms in my town and just abandoned them when sheet got nut. 
     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2019 - 9:16 PM ET #15

    Kennedy should be on the short list for worst ever. Yes, Goggles, the Bay of Pigs was a disaster. And, it was the direct cause of the Cuban Missile Crisis, which, unless you believe in the media-created Camelot, was a huge loss for the USA and our allies in Turkey and Italy. Prior to that crisis, we had Jupiter missiles in both of those countries. Kennedy gave them up to end the Cuban Missile Crisis, which he had precipitated with his moronic Bay of Pigs invasion. You didn't hear that from Cronkite.

    For more information on the Amateur Hour which was Kennedy's foreign policy, take a look at what he did in the Congo and Vietnam. Yes, Vietnam, which Kennedy owns despite media attempts to downplay his escalation of the conflict. 

     

     

     

     

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    Kennedy should be on the short list for worst ever. Yes, Goggles, the Bay of Pigs was a disaster. And, it was the direct cause of the Cuban Missile Crisis, which, unless you believe in the media-created Camelot, was a huge loss for the USA and our allies in Turkey and Italy. Prior to that crisis, we had Jupiter missiles in both of those countries. Kennedy gave them up to end the Cuban Missile Crisis, which he had precipitated with his moronic Bay of Pigs invasion. You didn't hear that from Cronkite.

    For more information on the Amateur Hour which was Kennedy's foreign policy, take a look at what he did in the Congo and Vietnam. Yes, Vietnam, which Kennedy owns despite media attempts to downplay his escalation of the conflict. 

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2019 - 10:57 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by mbialowas:

    Well...gotta say Trump is the best.  My investments are currently earning 20 points. Obama has to be the worst, and I'm a Democrat.  My 401K is thru the roof since Trump took over


    Yes, DJIA was at $6K when Obama took office.

    How soon everybody forgets what a friggin MESS that Texas A-Hole GWBush and his crooked mouth VP Cheney left behind.  I'm still waiting for Cheney to die so I can go pizz on that MF-er's grave.

    "Weapons of mass destruction" your azz.  Cost us what?  6,000 soldiers in that sh!thole Iraq instead of TKB in Afghanistan.

    Trump has treated the investors nicely but I NEVER made more money than the internet boom of the late 90's.  Clinton BJ or not, there was some VERY serious money rolling into my accounts in the 1990's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbialowas:

    Well...gotta say Trump is the best.  My investments are currently earning 20 points. Obama has to be the worst, and I'm a Democrat.  My 401K is thru the roof since Trump took over


    Yes, DJIA was at $6K when Obama took office.

    How soon everybody forgets what a friggin MESS that Texas A-Hole GWBush and his crooked mouth VP Cheney left behind.  I'm still waiting for Cheney to die so I can go pizz on that MF-er's grave.

    "Weapons of mass destruction" your azz.  Cost us what?  6,000 soldiers in that sh!thole Iraq instead of TKB in Afghanistan.

    Trump has treated the investors nicely but I NEVER made more money than the internet boom of the late 90's.  Clinton BJ or not, there was some VERY serious money rolling into my accounts in the 1990's.

     
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    Posted: May. 12, 2019 - 10:24 AM ET #17

    Cspan survey of presidential historians rank Buchanan, Johnson, Pierce, and Harding as the worst in US history.  Rankings based on multiple criteria such as economy, persuasion, moral authority, congress relations, crisis management, foreign relations, pursuit of equal justice for all, performance under circumstances, etc.

    Trump is the third worst according to Siena College research institute.  American political science association ranks Trump as the worst president of all time.


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    Cspan survey of presidential historians rank Buchanan, Johnson, Pierce, and Harding as the worst in US history.  Rankings based on multiple criteria such as economy, persuasion, moral authority, congress relations, crisis management, foreign relations, pursuit of equal justice for all, performance under circumstances, etc.

    Trump is the third worst according to Siena College research institute.  American political science association ranks Trump as the worst president of all time.


     
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    Posted: May. 12, 2019 - 12:52 PM ET #18


    If Trump can keep this incredible 10+ year economy humming along, and that's one huge IF, there is no way the Democrats will beat him in 2020.  He is the "Teflon Don".  Nothing will stick on him.  I don't care how loudly they scream about Russian connections.  I don't care how many women step forward with assault claims.  It's the economy.  PERIOD.


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    If Trump can keep this incredible 10+ year economy humming along, and that's one huge IF, there is no way the Democrats will beat him in 2020.  He is the "Teflon Don".  Nothing will stick on him.  I don't care how loudly they scream about Russian connections.  I don't care how many women step forward with assault claims.  It's the economy.  PERIOD.


     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2019 - 9:08 PM ET #19

    In my lifetime (1967) its Jimmy Carter hands down. Very nice person but a spineless jellyfish in every sense of the word. The country spiraled out of control very quickly under his stewardship,  as a youngster I remember my neighbor telling dad his mortgage was 18%, wtf. 
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    In my lifetime (1967) its Jimmy Carter hands down. Very nice person but a spineless jellyfish in every sense of the word. The country spiraled out of control very quickly under his stewardship,  as a youngster I remember my neighbor telling dad his mortgage was 18%, wtf. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Comm_Capper:

    Historically it is Grant.  It's said he gave jobs to all his friends and family and it was a real sh!t show.  But everyone will have  their opinion.  Ask the republicans and they will say Obama was one of the worst ever, ask the democrats and they will say Trumo is the worst of all time and probably could never be beat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comm_Capper:

    Historically it is Grant.  It's said he gave jobs to all his friends and family and it was a real sh!t show.  But everyone will have  their opinion.  Ask the republicans and they will say Obama was one of the worst ever, ask the democrats and they will say Trumo is the worst of all time and probably could never be beat.

    .  History repeats its self !
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by da101:

     

    The economy encompasses many factions of American lives. He has been attacked ruthlessly and yet continues to progress. I believe the left want the economy and American lives to destruct so they can regain power. Trump seems to be genuine in his love of the '' American Way '' of life; while helping ''all'' American Citizens ''. The left being truly disingenuous.

    It will not be an easy task in keeping the 10+ economy so strong. But his intentions are real.


    I think the citizens of Puerto Rico (who are also citizens of the USA) would strongly disagree.  Trump hasn't done anywhere near enough to help recover from hurricane destruction.
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    The economy encompasses many factions of American lives. He has been attacked ruthlessly and yet continues to progress. I believe the left want the economy and American lives to destruct so they can regain power. Trump seems to be genuine in his love of the '' American Way '' of life; while helping ''all'' American Citizens ''. The left being truly disingenuous.

    It will not be an easy task in keeping the 10+ economy so strong. But his intentions are real.


    I think the citizens of Puerto Rico (who are also citizens of the USA) would strongly disagree.  Trump hasn't done anywhere near enough to help recover from hurricane destruction.
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2019 - 3:00 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:



    I think the citizens of Puerto Rico (who are also citizens of the USA) would strongly disagree.  Trump hasn't done anywhere near enough to help recover from hurricane destruction.

    When a hurricane hits a 3rd-world country with massive debt/corruption how much inferstructure should FEMA pony up for and what kind of 21th century grid do we construct.There is the concept of Made Whole and Santa Trump with all the Trimmings.
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    I think the citizens of Puerto Rico (who are also citizens of the USA) would strongly disagree.  Trump hasn't done anywhere near enough to help recover from hurricane destruction.

    When a hurricane hits a 3rd-world country with massive debt/corruption how much inferstructure should FEMA pony up for and what kind of 21th century grid do we construct.There is the concept of Made Whole and Santa Trump with all the Trimmings.
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2019 - 8:07 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by 666LES:


    When a hurricane hits a 3rd-world country with massive debt/corruption how much inferstructure should FEMA pony up for and what kind of 21th century grid do we construct.There is the concept of Made Whole and Santa Trump with all the Trimmings.


    Not going to make this into an argument.  The FACT is that in 1917, the Jones–Shafroth Act gave USA citizenship to Puerto Rico.  It is what it is. 


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    When a hurricane hits a 3rd-world country with massive debt/corruption how much inferstructure should FEMA pony up for and what kind of 21th century grid do we construct.There is the concept of Made Whole and Santa Trump with all the Trimmings.


    Not going to make this into an argument.  The FACT is that in 1917, the Jones–Shafroth Act gave USA citizenship to Puerto Rico.  It is what it is. 


     
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2019 - 8:45 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:



    I think the citizens of Puerto Rico (who are also citizens of the USA) would strongly disagree.  Trump hasn't done anywhere near enough to help recover from hurricane destruction.
    What makes you think Trump thinks PR is part of the U.S.? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:



    I think the citizens of Puerto Rico (who are also citizens of the USA) would strongly disagree.  Trump hasn't done anywhere near enough to help recover from hurricane destruction.
    What makes you think Trump thinks PR is part of the U.S.? 
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