Upside, thanks for sharing the info, I also think Frosted has the pedigree to win, that's what this forum is for, not for bashing. Of course I have disagreed with people here, but I am always respectful, I have seen so many good people leave over my many years here leave because of haters and bashing. Anyway, I hope I haven't caused you confusion about your handicapping, maybe it's now clarified. I appreciate that you revisited it just because I brought it up. I would love to nail down this race to a 5 horse superfecta box (and would love even more not to include AP) and of course other wagers, hopefully we can reach this common goal.
Thx bro ... I have some great info on AP that is not talked about anywhere but I still refuse to put it on the forum ... Trust me AP will not win .... he can place , for now , but I'm just starting on who is going place with my stats ... I will still root for AP to win the TC , just won't happen , yep I guarantee it ... here come the bashers ..
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Quote Originally Posted by howzuck:
Upside, thanks for sharing the info, I also think Frosted has the pedigree to win, that's what this forum is for, not for bashing. Of course I have disagreed with people here, but I am always respectful, I have seen so many good people leave over my many years here leave because of haters and bashing. Anyway, I hope I haven't caused you confusion about your handicapping, maybe it's now clarified. I appreciate that you revisited it just because I brought it up. I would love to nail down this race to a 5 horse superfecta box (and would love even more not to include AP) and of course other wagers, hopefully we can reach this common goal.
Thx bro ... I have some great info on AP that is not talked about anywhere but I still refuse to put it on the forum ... Trust me AP will not win .... he can place , for now , but I'm just starting on who is going place with my stats ... I will still root for AP to win the TC , just won't happen , yep I guarantee it ... here come the bashers ..
Totally agree, upside. I will be rooting for AP to win the Triple Crown, but I don't think it will happen unless conditions are perfect for him (wet track or other contenders don't run to their potential). I will be betting against AP on most tickets, but I certainly will tip my cap to him if he finishes ahead of the others on Belmont Day. I am sure your info would be interesting - I am sure it is something more than "tired horse" or " the fix is on" but I don't need to know it. One year I am bound to be wrong but in the last 15 or 16 years, I have predicted that each winner of the first 2 legs would lose the Belmont except one. I do confess that I did think Smarty Jones was good enough to win the TC, but I didn't think that any the others (Charasmatic, Real Quiet (almost did it, though), Funny Cide, Big Brown, War Emblem, California Chrome) were that special kind horse like Affirmed, Seattle Slew and Secretariat of the 70's. If AP wins, I would have to put him in that list, but I have to see it happen before I think of it. Even then, no one touches Secretariat.
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Totally agree, upside. I will be rooting for AP to win the Triple Crown, but I don't think it will happen unless conditions are perfect for him (wet track or other contenders don't run to their potential). I will be betting against AP on most tickets, but I certainly will tip my cap to him if he finishes ahead of the others on Belmont Day. I am sure your info would be interesting - I am sure it is something more than "tired horse" or " the fix is on" but I don't need to know it. One year I am bound to be wrong but in the last 15 or 16 years, I have predicted that each winner of the first 2 legs would lose the Belmont except one. I do confess that I did think Smarty Jones was good enough to win the TC, but I didn't think that any the others (Charasmatic, Real Quiet (almost did it, though), Funny Cide, Big Brown, War Emblem, California Chrome) were that special kind horse like Affirmed, Seattle Slew and Secretariat of the 70's. If AP wins, I would have to put him in that list, but I have to see it happen before I think of it. Even then, no one touches Secretariat.
Dont waste your breath . These kids have no clue.. The best is when you ask them to handicap a race and they just run away.. Going by the current field , Frosted urinates on the field when AP hits a blind switch.. This site is filled with the worst gamblers in the world.. I have never seen such piss poor planning in my life.. I am so curious to see what they have to say when my horse wins..
Ohhhh all the sudden Frosted is a good horse?? Is that right? Did you not mock him and say that he was inferior?? There's a lot of clowns on this site but you sir are by the biggest clown around. You probably have the face paint and everything... Unreal
Hey meatball, i was the first here to say Frosted. I say it and you talk sh--it to me . Then all the other posts that say Frosted could win you agree.. Do all of us a favor , get off your knees and stop sucking off the other guys that are saying the same thing as me.. We are all embarrassed for you .. Your knees are red and bleeding from all the poster BJS you are giving..
Frosted wins by a mile..
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Quote Originally Posted by angrybarber:
Dont waste your breath . These kids have no clue.. The best is when you ask them to handicap a race and they just run away.. Going by the current field , Frosted urinates on the field when AP hits a blind switch.. This site is filled with the worst gamblers in the world.. I have never seen such piss poor planning in my life.. I am so curious to see what they have to say when my horse wins..
Ohhhh all the sudden Frosted is a good horse?? Is that right? Did you not mock him and say that he was inferior?? There's a lot of clowns on this site but you sir are by the biggest clown around. You probably have the face paint and everything... Unreal
Hey meatball, i was the first here to say Frosted. I say it and you talk sh--it to me . Then all the other posts that say Frosted could win you agree.. Do all of us a favor , get off your knees and stop sucking off the other guys that are saying the same thing as me.. We are all embarrassed for you .. Your knees are red and bleeding from all the poster BJS you are giving..
Oh look here's the CLOWN. Bozo would you like to me repost your post whete you bash Frosted? You must not realize that when you write things they don't go away. I'm not surprised you don't know that. The way you talk your intelligence level probably isnt too high.
Never forget Commanding Curve...
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Oh look here's the CLOWN. Bozo would you like to me repost your post whete you bash Frosted? You must not realize that when you write things they don't go away. I'm not surprised you don't know that. The way you talk your intelligence level probably isnt too high.
Hey Bozo here's what you wrote about Frosted before the Derby:
Frosted keeps running those 1:40 mile fractions he has zero chance.. He ran a mile and an 1/8th in 1:50 at Aqueduct.. That is ugly in my book.. 1:48 would be nice .. But 1:50 .. A complete throw out ...
Your a clown.
I've known Frosted is a good horse for a long time. Just go back and read my numerous post about him. Believe me I don't need to get any information from anyone who picked Commanding Curve to win anything. I do my own work and research which is why I'll always be smarter then you.
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Hey Bozo here's what you wrote about Frosted before the Derby:
Frosted keeps running those 1:40 mile fractions he has zero chance.. He ran a mile and an 1/8th in 1:50 at Aqueduct.. That is ugly in my book.. 1:48 would be nice .. But 1:50 .. A complete throw out ...
Your a clown.
I've known Frosted is a good horse for a long time. Just go back and read my numerous post about him. Believe me I don't need to get any information from anyone who picked Commanding Curve to win anything. I do my own work and research which is why I'll always be smarter then you.
Materiality is an E/P type runner, people seem to forget since he missed the break in the Derby. Including TV types and some "expert" handicappers. He'll be around, and he's a tough, tough horse. And he's fresh
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Materiality is an E/P type runner, people seem to forget since he missed the break in the Derby. Including TV types and some "expert" handicappers. He'll be around, and he's a tough, tough horse. And he's fresh
Hey Bozo here's what you wrote about Frosted before the Derby:
Frosted keeps running those 1:40 mile fractions he has zero chance.. He ran a mile and an 1/8th in 1:50 at Aqueduct.. That is ugly in my book.. 1:48 would be nice .. But 1:50 .. A complete throw out ...
Your a clown.
I've known Frosted is a good horse for a long time. Just go back and read my numerous post about him. Believe me I don't need to get any information from anyone who picked Commanding Curve to win anything. I do my own work and research which is why I'll always be smarter then you.
Hey Covers Posters chicken head.. Things change from race to race. If AP is cooked, and all the other add ons and horses he raced against are toast. Who is next in line?"???? THE HORSE THAT CIRCLED THE FIELD WITH EASE, AND CAME IN A GOOD 4TH. Frosted is a closer who ran into slow fractions against horses that were at the top of their form. So nut sucker, these are situations I bet.. Closer running a longer distance into faster fractions..and only finished 4 lengths behind the winner and already raced against the best in the field..
HEY Scrotum Guzzler, are you really going to bet a 4/5 horse to do something that has not been done since 78... ??? Wow great bet .HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Quote Originally Posted by angrybarber:
Hey Bozo here's what you wrote about Frosted before the Derby:
Frosted keeps running those 1:40 mile fractions he has zero chance.. He ran a mile and an 1/8th in 1:50 at Aqueduct.. That is ugly in my book.. 1:48 would be nice .. But 1:50 .. A complete throw out ...
Your a clown.
I've known Frosted is a good horse for a long time. Just go back and read my numerous post about him. Believe me I don't need to get any information from anyone who picked Commanding Curve to win anything. I do my own work and research which is why I'll always be smarter then you.
Hey Covers Posters chicken head.. Things change from race to race. If AP is cooked, and all the other add ons and horses he raced against are toast. Who is next in line?"???? THE HORSE THAT CIRCLED THE FIELD WITH EASE, AND CAME IN A GOOD 4TH. Frosted is a closer who ran into slow fractions against horses that were at the top of their form. So nut sucker, these are situations I bet.. Closer running a longer distance into faster fractions..and only finished 4 lengths behind the winner and already raced against the best in the field..
HEY Scrotum Guzzler, are you really going to bet a 4/5 horse to do something that has not been done since 78... ??? Wow great bet .HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
For what its worth over 2 weeks out here's my top 5 win contenders not in order, that will come later: Materiality Frosted Carpe Diem Mubtaahij Keen Ice
I strongly believe the winner is one of those 5. I believe payouts will be quite good this year. After researching some things, I'm strongly against AP to even run well in this spot.
You really pick 5 horses ??? You should box all of them in a super.. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
Frosted beats all of those horses.
You lick everyone's ball sweat and you are not man enough to make a pick , you are so scared to be wrong?? Be a man and make a pick and take your lumps if he loses..
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Quote Originally Posted by angrybarber:
For what its worth over 2 weeks out here's my top 5 win contenders not in order, that will come later: Materiality Frosted Carpe Diem Mubtaahij Keen Ice
I strongly believe the winner is one of those 5. I believe payouts will be quite good this year. After researching some things, I'm strongly against AP to even run well in this spot.
You really pick 5 horses ??? You should box all of them in a super.. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
Frosted beats all of those horses.
You lick everyone's ball sweat and you are not man enough to make a pick , you are so scared to be wrong?? Be a man and make a pick and take your lumps if he loses..
I'm not scared to be wrong i singled Frosted in the Derby in everything i did and i was fine with it. Maybe i go 4 deep in the Belmont but i play wagers that probably confuse your petty brain. So don't worry about me.
I haven't bet AP yet so why would i start now?? Most of your comments don't even make any sense. Must be the clown paint getting to your brain.
FYI Frosted wouldn't be categorized as a closer but I don't expect you to realize that because you jump on whatever horse people talk about after previous races. And because your the most clueless person on here. Who can't form their own opinion and who couldn't handicap a race if your life depends on it.
COMMANDING CURVE!!!
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I'm not scared to be wrong i singled Frosted in the Derby in everything i did and i was fine with it. Maybe i go 4 deep in the Belmont but i play wagers that probably confuse your petty brain. So don't worry about me.
I haven't bet AP yet so why would i start now?? Most of your comments don't even make any sense. Must be the clown paint getting to your brain.
FYI Frosted wouldn't be categorized as a closer but I don't expect you to realize that because you jump on whatever horse people talk about after previous races. And because your the most clueless person on here. Who can't form their own opinion and who couldn't handicap a race if your life depends on it.
I'm not scared to be wrong i singled Frosted in the Derby in everything i did and i was fine with it. Maybe i go 4 deep in the Belmont but i play wagers that probably confuse your petty brain. So don't worry about me.
I haven't bet AP yet so why would i start now?? Most of your comments don't even make any sense. Must be the clown paint getting to your brain.
FYI Frosted wouldn't be categorized as a closer but I don't expect you to realize that because you jump on whatever horse people talk about after previous races. And because your the most clueless person on here. Who can't form their own opinion and who couldn't handicap a race if your life depends on it.
COMMANDING CURVE!!!
Yup .. so make sure you have a single horse to WIN..
FROSTED TO THE BANK!!!! LOCK IT UP !!!!
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Quote Originally Posted by angrybarber:
I'm not scared to be wrong i singled Frosted in the Derby in everything i did and i was fine with it. Maybe i go 4 deep in the Belmont but i play wagers that probably confuse your petty brain. So don't worry about me.
I haven't bet AP yet so why would i start now?? Most of your comments don't even make any sense. Must be the clown paint getting to your brain.
FYI Frosted wouldn't be categorized as a closer but I don't expect you to realize that because you jump on whatever horse people talk about after previous races. And because your the most clueless person on here. Who can't form their own opinion and who couldn't handicap a race if your life depends on it.
COMMANDING CURVE!!!
Yup .. so make sure you have a single horse to WIN..
i don't know how many times i have to say I rarely make win bets.
I wager horizontals always, and verticals when a good opportunity presents itself. Im sure that's horse racing language you don't understand.
When i made it to the Derby live in th P4, i was live to a $4500 ticket on Frosted. For $288 worth of wagers. Which was much more value then as if i bet just that amount to win. Bet enough on PLACE/SHOW to cover the 288 as a saver bet, as it turned out i missed. And I'll miss a lot more Im sure. But that's how i bet, did I explain it slow enough for your DUMB CLOWN ASS TO UNDERSTAND? You're not on my level, and you never will be.
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i don't know how many times i have to say I rarely make win bets.
I wager horizontals always, and verticals when a good opportunity presents itself. Im sure that's horse racing language you don't understand.
When i made it to the Derby live in th P4, i was live to a $4500 ticket on Frosted. For $288 worth of wagers. Which was much more value then as if i bet just that amount to win. Bet enough on PLACE/SHOW to cover the 288 as a saver bet, as it turned out i missed. And I'll miss a lot more Im sure. But that's how i bet, did I explain it slow enough for your DUMB CLOWN ASS TO UNDERSTAND? You're not on my level, and you never will be.
That's why I treat everyone else in this forum with respect except for you BOZO. You don't deserve respect, you talk like a loud mouth punk which I'm sure you are, you're the guy who only talks about his winners but has 5 times the losers. I'm done acknowledging you in these threads, because you're a CLOWN and have nothing to offer.
Ya ever notice hardly anyone bothers with you in this forum??? I'm sure you have some parties to work this weekend, make sure you do a good job painting the face, shine up those big red shoes and put on a show!!! See Ya CLOWN...
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That's why I treat everyone else in this forum with respect except for you BOZO. You don't deserve respect, you talk like a loud mouth punk which I'm sure you are, you're the guy who only talks about his winners but has 5 times the losers. I'm done acknowledging you in these threads, because you're a CLOWN and have nothing to offer.
Ya ever notice hardly anyone bothers with you in this forum??? I'm sure you have some parties to work this weekend, make sure you do a good job painting the face, shine up those big red shoes and put on a show!!! See Ya CLOWN...
Hey Covers Posters chicken head.. Things change from race to race. If AP is cooked, and all the other add ons and horses he raced against are toast. Who is next in line?"???? THE HORSE THAT CIRCLED THE FIELD WITH EASE, AND CAME IN A GOOD 4TH. Frosted is a closer who ran into slow fractions against horses that were at the top of their form. So nut sucker, these are situations I bet.. Closer running a longer distance into faster fractions..and only finished 4 lengths behind the winner and already raced against the best in the field..
HEY Scrotum Guzzler, are you really going to bet a 4/5 horse to do something that has not been done since 78... ??? Wow great bet .HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You're getting owned. Quit while you're ahead.
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Quote Originally Posted by Knoxpoker:
Hey Covers Posters chicken head.. Things change from race to race. If AP is cooked, and all the other add ons and horses he raced against are toast. Who is next in line?"???? THE HORSE THAT CIRCLED THE FIELD WITH EASE, AND CAME IN A GOOD 4TH. Frosted is a closer who ran into slow fractions against horses that were at the top of their form. So nut sucker, these are situations I bet.. Closer running a longer distance into faster fractions..and only finished 4 lengths behind the winner and already raced against the best in the field..
HEY Scrotum Guzzler, are you really going to bet a 4/5 horse to do something that has not been done since 78... ??? Wow great bet .HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
if some one had to pick a horse besides ap. then look for mutabaji But i still believe ap is going wire to wire its clearly the fastest horse, el kabir and dortmund play blockers and this horse gets to the front will stay there alot left in both the derby and preakness with the added realestate I like ap pulling away from the field. the others fresh yes but a mile and half no they realy dont have that kind of distance in them.
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if some one had to pick a horse besides ap. then look for mutabaji But i still believe ap is going wire to wire its clearly the fastest horse, el kabir and dortmund play blockers and this horse gets to the front will stay there alot left in both the derby and preakness with the added realestate I like ap pulling away from the field. the others fresh yes but a mile and half no they realy dont have that kind of distance in them.
if some one had to pick a horse besides ap. then look for mutabaji But i still believe ap is going wire to wire its clearly the fastest horse, el kabir and dortmund play blockers and this horse gets to the front will stay there alot left in both the derby and preakness with the added realestate I like ap pulling away from the field. the others fresh yes but a mile and half no they realy dont have that kind of distance in them.
You do realize El Kabeir and Dortmund aren't running... And AP is the one who doesn't want the distance
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Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:
if some one had to pick a horse besides ap. then look for mutabaji But i still believe ap is going wire to wire its clearly the fastest horse, el kabir and dortmund play blockers and this horse gets to the front will stay there alot left in both the derby and preakness with the added realestate I like ap pulling away from the field. the others fresh yes but a mile and half no they realy dont have that kind of distance in them.
You do realize El Kabeir and Dortmund aren't running... And AP is the one who doesn't want the distance
You do realize El Kabeir and Dortmund aren't running... And AP is the one who doesn't want the distance
no i didnt realize this then look for a manhattan traffic jam ap cant even show here. this is pletchers race bet the one that costs the most yearling auction sale.
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Quote Originally Posted by angrybarber:
You do realize El Kabeir and Dortmund aren't running... And AP is the one who doesn't want the distance
no i didnt realize this then look for a manhattan traffic jam ap cant even show here. this is pletchers race bet the one that costs the most yearling auction sale.
You do realize El Kabeir and Dortmund aren't running... And AP is the one who doesn't want the distance
becomes a simple if this is true then ap front right hoof is <uckeddd and velquez pulls up like cu e war eblem and cal chrome.zayat and baffert not pulling a barn back cause ap got a fighting chance in my humble opinion....
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Quote Originally Posted by angrybarber:
You do realize El Kabeir and Dortmund aren't running... And AP is the one who doesn't want the distance
becomes a simple if this is true then ap front right hoof is <uckeddd and velquez pulls up like cu e war eblem and cal chrome.zayat and baffert not pulling a barn back cause ap got a fighting chance in my humble opinion....
for those playing pick six four or three well you got to include ap cause at this point zayat stables position it goes or blow it away with the 45. and ap threw a shoe before still won by 8 lengths.
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for those playing pick six four or three well you got to include ap cause at this point zayat stables position it goes or blow it away with the 45. and ap threw a shoe before still won by 8 lengths.
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