STARTING DECEMBER 26, BOYCOTT SANTA ANITA RACES!

California is advertising a "25%" purse increase!  "Bigger fields", "better horses".  All will be well again!

Only one thing they forgot to mention:  They increased the takeout on exotic bets from 10-15%.  In other words, you, the bettor is footing the bill!

IF THEY SUCCEED, WHO CAN STOP THEM FROM DOING IT AGAIN?  OR WHO CAN STOP ANY OTHER ORGANIZATION FROM DOING IT AGAIN?

If you hit an exacta at Santa Anita that paid $78, that same exacta at Hialeah would pay $88 or if you were present at Delaware Park, it would pay $90.  How many times in a year do you hit exactas or trifectas?  Multiply that by $10 and see how much playing California will hurt your pocket. 

By contrast, Cal Expo harness is offering a 0%, that's right 0% takeout on it''s late pick-4 on Saturday  . . .if you're live at the track or wager through Twin Spires.  I now have a Twin Spires account (my old youbet account went TS), and their graphics are awesome.

At a time when many horse racing tracks are LOWERING the takeout in an effort to attract your action, California thoroughbred tracks are raising the rates.  HOW STUPID DO THEY THINK WE ARE?  Well some of you will continue to support this move by betting there.  And I agree, California had to do something, BUT THIS WAS THE WORST THING THEY COULD HAVE DONE!

ATTENTION CHRB:  IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE SKILLS TO FIGHT THE INDIANS, THEN RESIGN RIGHT NOW!

Golfkat, the "Big Cheeses in horse racing will tell you that cheating is impossible.  But they also denied the BC fix-six wasn't cheating until it was too late.  Horse racing is run by people who don't bet.  And I'm sure they wouldn't want their kids to bet on it too.

Sack, no one really cares about what seems to be your personal agenda in here to wage war against the tracks take out. It's a fact of life like taxes and death. You and a thousand like you can't and won't make any difference, another fact of life. It boils down to does anyone really care what you think or profess? If you don't like the takeout then play another sport!

Post some picks or plays and take the politics elsewhere, please. My bad and I apologize for even thinking you were a player, hence the absense of selections!

Gambler, you don't speak for everybody.  If you don't like my posts, DON'T READ THEM!  How hard is that to do.  Your attempt to censure other posters is ridiculous.  I'm American and I believe in free speech.  If you don't, TOO BAD!

Now, I gotta ask some questions. Why should or would any bettor of horses boycott a track?

Do they not pay out on a winning bet the same as all other tracks?

Is it because Cali racing is home to the 6 horse field but still offer you a super bet option? Looks to easy to cash that one, only need to eliminate two.

Cali racing is done Sack, with or without you help! No one wants to race there anyway so small fields.

Wait, I got one more.  Maybe it's the ones bitching about the takeout because they didn't invest the time to learn how to handicap a race sooner?

Bottom line here is if you learn how to wager and handicap the takeout don't matter. I'll still win so again I don't care.

"No one wants to race there (in Cali) anyways, so small fields"

Now I'm scratching my head at this one.  So if you owned a horse, you would rather race him in 12 horse fields as opposed to 6 horse fields.  It seems to me it's easier to win a 6-horse race than a 12-horse race.  Maybe I'm wrong.

If an exacta at Santa Anita pays $78, the same exacta at Delaware park would pay $90.  Now multiply that $12 times the number of exactas you hit in a year.  Say you hit just one exacta a day.  $12 times 365 days equals $4,300 in a year.

$4,300 in a year.  Takeout matters to me.  Furthermore, when people are not buying your product anymore, why would you raise the price on it?  California is sticking it to the bettors at a time when they should be cutting the price.

If you don't care about all of this, fine, keep betting California.  I'm taking my business elsewhere.

Sack, you forgot to mention that the reduced takeout at Delaware is for ON-TRACK betting ONLY in your last retort and that Delaware is closed now! So on-line bettors do NOT see the reduced takeout. In the near future there will be no grandstands or clubhouses only casinos at the tracks. So they really don't care if you feel slighted over the takeout. Racing will be done on-line and the tracks will be casinos, where the real money is!  You are fighting a losing battle with no chance to win the war.

Are you some sort of politician or a consumer crusader? I would like to see you post some selections to perhaps build up a little credibility that you are actually player. IMO, if you can't do that, then your FOS.

But you have a great day anyway, I know I will.

Gambler, you are right, I did fail to mention that the Delaware deal was for ON-TRACK CUSTOMERS ONLY. I disagree with you that I am fighting a losing war!  Here's a list of tracks who HAVE reduced the takeout in one form or another:

Hialeah, Delaware, Retama, Portland Meadows, Balmoral, Maywood, Cal Expo, Tioga Downs.....Unfortunately so far, none of the BIG tracks have followed suit.  That's why it's so important to suport these tracks mentioned.  If it works there, then the big guys will give it a look.  Once NYRA gets it's slots at Aqueduct, they will be loaded with money, they will not give a damn about horse players, ironically, the facility will improve greatly thanks to the casino.

One more thing, California thoroughbreds and Los Alamitos Quarter Horses are the ONLY tracks to increast takeout.  Let's see what happens.

I don't see why you are so against my "crusade".  I'm trying to put more money in your pocket.

And finally, gambler, to prove I'm a horseplayer, here are some of my nation-wide betting tips: 

The most dangerous thing in horse racing is LONE SPEED.  Find a front-runner who will set moderate fractions and you will cash.

On the other hand, California synthetic tracks favor closers.

The rail is a bad post in sprints.  For some reason, it breaks slow and has to deal with other horses cutting in.

Handicapping scumbag trainers is important.  Even though it's obvious to me they are using undectable drugs, you have to respect horses from stables like:  Dutrow, O'Neil, Mullins, Rudy Rodriquez.  A trainer with a high win percentage will always get a look from me, doesn't matter what track.

Sometimes horses with bad form win.  Why?  What did I miss?  How about a trainer change or an equiptment change?  Sometimes that can do the trick.  I don't like betting on favorites off a long layoff dropping in class.  Why are they dropping in class if they aren't as good as before.

Most handicappers like horses dropping in class.  I think they get overbet.  Once again, the connections aren't showing much when they nosedive them.

Look for 1-5 shots and check the show pool on them.  I've cash quite a few juicy show bets betting against the 1-5 shot hoping he runs out of the money.  My biggest was at Emerald, I bet $50 to show on the 3rd choice.  He paid $70 to show on a $2 ticket.

Not every race is bettable.  I really mix it up from playing tri's super's and pick-3,4.  One thing I've been keying on is playing the favorite to finish second.  The exotics are good.  But sometimes I find a horse like Chaimberland Bridge who ran in the Breeders Cup Turf Sprint.  He had won half his races lifetime, but also hit the board sometihing like 26 times out of 31 races.  I bet $300 to show and was rewarded with a nice $5.60 payoff on a horse that was 85% in the money.

Money management and a good attitude are key to having a winning day.  Only bet big on a few races a day.  I believe in betting favorites to place or show and longshots to win.

Check for track biases.  For example, today at Hollywood Park, on the main track, closers were king!  They were coming from dead last and winning.  There are many quirky tracks aroung the country.  Aqueducts inner track has a lot of "Horses for Courses".  That must be watched.

The Kentucky Derby, with all it's hype is a bad bet.  It's turned into a crapshoot.  Who gets the lucky trip wins.  The last two winners, Mine That Bird and Super Saver never won another race after their Derby win.  Sure, Calvin Borel has had the magic touch in that race, but I guarantee if I bet on him in next year's Derby, he'll lose. 

Watch the first click on the tote board and take note of horses who got early action.  Sometimes the connections bet early because they'll be in the paddock and won't have time to bet later.

Although you hear racing is "fixed" all the time, i truly believe MOST trainers and jockeys are trying their hardest to win all the time.  For sure, there are some bad apples out there who deceive.  But for the most part, racing is competitive.

There are some of the things I know about racing.  I grew up in Los Angeles, home of the finest tracks in the country.  I've been playing the horse for over 30 years.  Satisfied?

Satisfied?  NO

Other than Delaware, the tracks your hyping are either bull rings, harness or quarters. Which I think most here don't bet anyway? Maybe Tex? As far as your handicapping expertise, you have stated nothing other than general opinions which could have been gleened from a handicapping book or some website. Therefore you have yet to prove to me and probably anyone else that your a player because you refuse to post any selections!  So far anyway. I do really like your comment about you trying to put money in my pocket though without giving me a winner!  That's classic.

Once AGAIN, post some picks or take a hike!  Kinda like the old walk the walk and not talk the talk BS. Lets use that line from Missouri- SHOW ME. Pick something/anything and the board can decide for themselves rather than take your expertise at your word.

Bring it, don't sing it!

Yes, JMO  so others will need to speak for themselves.

Gambler, no!

Good bye to youl

Spouting off like you know what your talking about? Then REFUSE to post even one pick to prove any credability!

You're right and good riddance.

Then dont read my posts.  If I don't read your selections, why should I post selections myself?  I don't bet on others' picks.  That's the way I am.  I will not change for you and don't you to change for me.

But since Ive been getting nothing but negative feedback from this forum, this is my last response.  Good bye and good luck players.