You cannot possibly compare him to any horse since then, no matter the field size. Secretariat ran the Belmont faster than Tonalist by over 4.5 seconds and would have beaten this field by more than 20 lengths...it does not matter what horse you choose, there is a reason Secretariat holds the world record for 1.5 miles on dirt, and the fastest Belmont Stakes time by 2 seconds.
Yes Secratariat!! No comparison...was just saying he didn't have that large of a field in Belmont in reference to someone saying field would be only a few horses. I agree CC no Big Red!
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Quote Originally Posted by wingerzzz:
You cannot possibly compare him to any horse since then, no matter the field size. Secretariat ran the Belmont faster than Tonalist by over 4.5 seconds and would have beaten this field by more than 20 lengths...it does not matter what horse you choose, there is a reason Secretariat holds the world record for 1.5 miles on dirt, and the fastest Belmont Stakes time by 2 seconds.
Yes Secratariat!! No comparison...was just saying he didn't have that large of a field in Belmont in reference to someone saying field would be only a few horses. I agree CC no Big Red!
He called Tontalist owner a Coward because he entered a horse in the Belmont that did not race in either the Derby or Preakness...Yet the really Elite Horses that have won past triple crowns raced against the same as they do today......
Do you know off top of your head where I could find info on this sort of thing? Someone asking me other day if it was always this way and I said yes. They said did I know how often, etc. because Secratariat, Affirmed etc at least seemed to have rivals in each of, or at least 2/3 races? I mean were old time Belmont or Preakness targeted by a horse or two for this sort of thing specifically or does anyone recall? Thanks.
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Quote Originally Posted by Karnzy:
He called Tontalist owner a Coward because he entered a horse in the Belmont that did not race in either the Derby or Preakness...Yet the really Elite Horses that have won past triple crowns raced against the same as they do today......
Do you know off top of your head where I could find info on this sort of thing? Someone asking me other day if it was always this way and I said yes. They said did I know how often, etc. because Secratariat, Affirmed etc at least seemed to have rivals in each of, or at least 2/3 races? I mean were old time Belmont or Preakness targeted by a horse or two for this sort of thing specifically or does anyone recall? Thanks.
Let's face the facts...CC Owner said all week he Guarantees a win, and the colt never looked better. The fact is he ran against sub-par competition in the Derby and Preakness, his times were ultra slow.
CC is a great horse, but he is no Secretariat,Affirmed, or Seattle Slew....He was beaten handily by 3 other horses...In 1973 when the Great Secretariat won there was a 25 year drought, this is the hardest feat in all of sports and should be kept to this standard....
I lost alot of respect in CC when the owner whined Saturday...He called Tontalist owner a Coward because he entered a horse in the Belmont that did not race in either the Derby or Preakness...Yet the really Elite Horses that have won past triple crowns raced against the same as they do today......
I agree with you but CC did have a good Preakness time.
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Quote Originally Posted by Karnzy:
Let's face the facts...CC Owner said all week he Guarantees a win, and the colt never looked better. The fact is he ran against sub-par competition in the Derby and Preakness, his times were ultra slow.
CC is a great horse, but he is no Secretariat,Affirmed, or Seattle Slew....He was beaten handily by 3 other horses...In 1973 when the Great Secretariat won there was a 25 year drought, this is the hardest feat in all of sports and should be kept to this standard....
I lost alot of respect in CC when the owner whined Saturday...He called Tontalist owner a Coward because he entered a horse in the Belmont that did not race in either the Derby or Preakness...Yet the really Elite Horses that have won past triple crowns raced against the same as they do today......
I agree with you but CC did have a good Preakness time.
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