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Greyhound you and Roused should team up and pick the horses that finish 17-20, you guys would probably shine!!
 
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Rise Up in the Louisiana Derby, that was another stellar Greyhound selection!!

 
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You act like your trash talking embarrasses me or something, I don't have to post  my picks all the time,I'm honest.
Last year I didn't win 1 triple crown race! 
The year before that I won all 3! I didn't win a Derby from 2008-2010. I've been betting horses since 2004 and I've won 5 Derby's, I think that's a pretty good percentage!
Every time you address me it's to talk trash, but that's ok I guess it makes you feel better about yourself! 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by angrybarber:

You act like your trash talking embarrasses me or something, I don't have to post  my picks all the time,I'm honest.
Last year I didn't win 1 triple crown race! 
The year before that I won all 3! I didn't win a Derby from 2008-2010. I've been betting horses since 2004 and I've won 5 Derby's, I think that's a pretty good percentage!
Every time you address me it's to talk trash, but that's ok I guess it makes you feel better about yourself! 



You have always been good with me. 
 
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Thanks Kursh!

 
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Quote Originally Posted by angrybarber:

Keep betting turf horses in classic dirt races, 
What place did We miss Artie come in in the FOY??





You seem to have a reading comprehension problem.  I haven't picked We Miss Artie to win the Derby.     I haven't picked anyone. 

Here's the thread.


I said twice in there that I'm leaning against him winning it.     And I didn't pick Dullahan two years ago either.    I thought he was going to be able to handle the Churchill dirt.   You didn't.   He lost by 1.75 lengths and finished 3rd.    He handled the dirt.


I may not even make a pick for the Derby this year because I'm losing interest in horse racing because of the corruption.   The game is unbeatable.     


 
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Let it go man Dullahan was 0 FOR HIS LIFE ON DIRT and that's the bottom line and that was my point, keep bringing  up old stuff! I've never heard  someone prouder of a 3rd place finish. Know what I was doing why you were pounding your chest over a 3rd place finish....I was cashing tickets! About $3700 worth! And  I read just fine fine thanks! Do you pay for those losing brisnet picks you post?? Is that why your so upset with the game .  Nothing involving gambling is beatable....... I thought everyone knew that.

 
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Grey how old are you? Keep up the good work Barber. I enjoy your write ups.
 
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Thanks Zip!
 
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Hound you were on a losing streak and talking about not posting anymore.

It was me who said don't be so hard on yourself.

You have friends here, at least me. 
 
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lol.. like a playground fight

OK.. still yet to finish watching the trials but statistics angle.

Eliminators

Dosage higher then 4.00:

Cairo Prince

Vicar's in Trouble

Wildcat Red


Unraced at two:

Constitution

Bayern

Hoppertunity

Chitu

Midnight Hawk

Vicar's In Trouble

General A Rod


Won at 6f:

California Chrome

Foaling Date:

California Chrome 18th February

Constitution 11th Feburary

Candy Boy 31st March

Tapiture 3rd May

Bayern 3rd May

Cairo Prince 17th February

Hoppertunity 7th May

Social Inclusion 1st May

Vicar's in Trouble 31st March

Wildcat Red 29th March

General A Rod 26th February

Intense Holiday 20th April

Chitu 18th March

Samraat 16th April

Ring Weekend 27th April

Midnight Hawk 14th May


May is an unlikely time to foal a Derby winner given there will be more mature colts in the field. Midnight Hawk, Tapiture, Hoppertunity and Social Inclusion are likely eliminated.


No More then 2 prep runs:

Ring Weekend, Havana

Cairo Prince, Tapiture will likely have another prep run between now and raceday.


 
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Chucked a few quid on INtense Holiday at 33/1 but kicking myself for not taking California Chrome 12/1 straight after the Santa Anita Derby when BetVC were sleeping! I've watched his trials and pretty impressive, no doubts about that. Ticks all the boxes statistically too and only doubts are stamina and pedigree.

there is another stat that says only Grade One winning sires win the Derby but Malibu Moon managed it last year though admittedly his was an injury shortened career. Lucky PUlpit is CC's sire and distinctly average. Still to finish watching and just Arkansas Derby for me to take in. Can't have Bluegrass trial as a viable prep at all so one more race and also the Wood Memorial and Florida Derby to get through. GL
 
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Ring weekend had a 2nd prep in the Calder derby he finished 2nd beaten 9 lengths.
Cairo Prince will not run again, his connections are just hoping they have enough points.
Tapiture runs this Saturday in the Arkansas derby
 
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2 late foals to win the derby since 2006
Mine That Bird- May 10
Barbaro- April 29
 
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Quote Originally Posted by angrybarber:

2 late foals to win the derby since 2006
Mine That Bird- May 10
Barbaro- April 29


Not impossible but it makes sense. I think the act of running on dirt is a hugely physical exertion on any horse. Most dirt horses are huge in comparison to turf especially Classic colts. Profile wise; intense Holiday and California Chrome both fit the profile. I've overlooked Wicked Strong and he's another who ticks most boxes. Not so sure I want to get involved with California Chrome and adding Wicked Strong alongside Intense Holiday. My 2 vs the field. Best of luck to all!
 
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The point is the older a horse is even by a month or so, the more mature and physically developed a horse is?
 
 
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I might have to rethink my "throwout" of CC. Hard to find someone that has impressed me at this point.
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