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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2020 - 9:07 PM ET #1

    Hi there everyone.  Been lurking around the Covers forums for years. I used to bet on College football and basketball primarily. I got banned from 5Dimes probably 10 years ago, and the offshore thing was getting less and less reliable, so I kind of lost interest.  Now I find myself back into placing some wagers since the mobile apps have come out and have been bouncing around the forums more often. 

     

    Anyways, my main focus now is on the stock market. My partners and I have developed an event engine that puts us into many of the daily runners you see going up 40-100% daily. I figured I could try and post some picks in here, and answer any questions anyone has about some of these plays. 

    Our model has been under development and testing for about 2 years. The results... lets just say we can beat the S&P by a few points. 


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    Hi there everyone.  Been lurking around the Covers forums for years. I used to bet on College football and basketball primarily. I got banned from 5Dimes probably 10 years ago, and the offshore thing was getting less and less reliable, so I kind of lost interest.  Now I find myself back into placing some wagers since the mobile apps have come out and have been bouncing around the forums more often. 

     

    Anyways, my main focus now is on the stock market. My partners and I have developed an event engine that puts us into many of the daily runners you see going up 40-100% daily. I figured I could try and post some picks in here, and answer any questions anyone has about some of these plays. 

    Our model has been under development and testing for about 2 years. The results... lets just say we can beat the S&P by a few points. 


     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2020 - 9:26 PM ET #2

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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2020 - 9:31 PM ET #3

    CERC is another one that should see a nice move. It has some pretty exciting COVID research coming out soon.  We even did a research paper on this one a few months ago. 

    We have a substack with all our published analysis if you search for gravity analytica substack

     

     

     

     

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    CERC is another one that should see a nice move. It has some pretty exciting COVID research coming out soon.  We even did a research paper on this one a few months ago. 

    We have a substack with all our published analysis if you search for gravity analytica substack

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2020 - 9:35 PM ET #4

    So share some insight as to how you came about this and developed it and what IT is? You will find many interested in what you have to discuss if you are legit and have details.

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    So share some insight as to how you came about this and developed it and what IT is? You will find many interested in what you have to discuss if you are legit and have details.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2020 - 9:38 PM ET #5

    We have a very informative youtube, but I couldn't link it here.  If you watch the video I was able to embed, that should hopefully get you to one of the partner's youtube pages, with a detailed video. 

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    We have a very informative youtube, but I couldn't link it here.  If you watch the video I was able to embed, that should hopefully get you to one of the partner's youtube pages, with a detailed video. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2020 - 10:44 PM ET #6

    Just so you know we do not allow self promotion so I am trying to guide you properly as to what is ok on the site. Why not just type it out and let us  know what you are doing. 

    No links or urls or suggestions for paying this or that...you will be banned if you do those things. So if you have contributions to make and are not looking to promote please proceed. If not then your stay will be short here unfortunately.

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    Just so you know we do not allow self promotion so I am trying to guide you properly as to what is ok on the site. Why not just type it out and let us  know what you are doing. 

    No links or urls or suggestions for paying this or that...you will be banned if you do those things. So if you have contributions to make and are not looking to promote please proceed. If not then your stay will be short here unfortunately.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2020 - 5:11 AM ET #7

    Nah, no posts to external links or websites.  I was just trying to link a Google Photo, to show our charts on CERC and NURO,  to show them coming into known events. 

     

    We have 5903 tickers modeled. 

     

    I got cutoff last night, since I reached my 5 post max. 


    We also have risk criteria bands, that act as a guide to assess risk. Short term/long term debt obligations, cash on hand, cash burn etc.  Those are all injected into the model to provide risk bands.  

    We focus primarily on very low risk, lower float  companies that are in good financial health. 

    We don't take positions in the Chinese  share selling scams that have been producing some of these huge 300% runs lately,  but they can be found pretty easily,  as those are the FSTs (forced state transitions)  where the company has to change "state"   Basically our model can predict when this liquidity event needs/has to happen, and the company changes its state.

     
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    Nah, no posts to external links or websites.  I was just trying to link a Google Photo, to show our charts on CERC and NURO,  to show them coming into known events. 

     

    We have 5903 tickers modeled. 

     

    I got cutoff last night, since I reached my 5 post max. 


    We also have risk criteria bands, that act as a guide to assess risk. Short term/long term debt obligations, cash on hand, cash burn etc.  Those are all injected into the model to provide risk bands.  

    We focus primarily on very low risk, lower float  companies that are in good financial health. 

    We don't take positions in the Chinese  share selling scams that have been producing some of these huge 300% runs lately,  but they can be found pretty easily,  as those are the FSTs (forced state transitions)  where the company has to change "state"   Basically our model can predict when this liquidity event needs/has to happen, and the company changes its state.

     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2020 - 6:03 AM ET #8

    Not a current play, but one to watch in terms of an example of a  company that is in a Forced State Transition zone... NDRA   If ETTX completes its move within the next few days, I will probably shift some of that capital into a small play here. 

    10 day volume average is about 124k shares...   We should see a volatility event within the next 2 weeks, if not sooner.  I'd expect price action to go up, as it doesn't look like the recent 424 was used to cover an institutional short. 

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    Not a current play, but one to watch in terms of an example of a  company that is in a Forced State Transition zone... NDRA   If ETTX completes its move within the next few days, I will probably shift some of that capital into a small play here. 

    10 day volume average is about 124k shares...   We should see a volatility event within the next 2 weeks, if not sooner.  I'd expect price action to go up, as it doesn't look like the recent 424 was used to cover an institutional short. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2020 - 9:21 AM ET #9

    So what are you saying generates interest to create a move in a stock? To me there usually has to be some news involved or it be in a hot sector. So the last 6 months the sector has been EV stocks, the little micro ones have/had big moves and the virus biotechs etc...

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    So what are you saying generates interest to create a move in a stock? To me there usually has to be some news involved or it be in a hot sector. So the last 6 months the sector has been EV stocks, the little micro ones have/had big moves and the virus biotechs etc...

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2020 - 11:03 AM ET #10

    Price movements are driven by liquidity,  and liquidity changes are often timed around news events. Ignore large cap stocks, but look at the small cap pump and dumpers. 

     

    Even in the EV space, all those runners you have seen, if I look at our historical chart data base, we'd see most of them had a giant red FST line when these happened. Those companies needed to change states, as dictated by the lifecycle stage they were in at the time. 

     

    Public companies exist to sell shares.  Plain and simple. Some pump and dump.  Some release a news event, and agree to a orchestrated short, then issue shares via a 424 to the short seller to close their position. Either way, they are raising money at the end of the day by selling shares

     

    We had a large position in EQ when it went from $3 to $30 in a day.  We sold most at $12, which was still a nice day.  But what does a former hedge fund manager who is the CEO now, know about developing cancer drugs?  The other C suites were his buddies from the fund, and interesting that they "helped" save the company money by deffering their salary, and going to stock based payments right before the run. 

     

    Amazing the things that are included in filings, once you know how to read them

     

     

     

     

     

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    Price movements are driven by liquidity,  and liquidity changes are often timed around news events. Ignore large cap stocks, but look at the small cap pump and dumpers. 

     

    Even in the EV space, all those runners you have seen, if I look at our historical chart data base, we'd see most of them had a giant red FST line when these happened. Those companies needed to change states, as dictated by the lifecycle stage they were in at the time. 

     

    Public companies exist to sell shares.  Plain and simple. Some pump and dump.  Some release a news event, and agree to a orchestrated short, then issue shares via a 424 to the short seller to close their position. Either way, they are raising money at the end of the day by selling shares

     

    We had a large position in EQ when it went from $3 to $30 in a day.  We sold most at $12, which was still a nice day.  But what does a former hedge fund manager who is the CEO now, know about developing cancer drugs?  The other C suites were his buddies from the fund, and interesting that they "helped" save the company money by deffering their salary, and going to stock based payments right before the run. 

     

    Amazing the things that are included in filings, once you know how to read them

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2020 - 11:10 AM ET #11

    So I like biotech micro caps...but CYCC what is the catalyst to make it go from almost 40 down to 4 bucks? Of course I could dig it out myself since you mentioned it I am curious about your thoughts on it.

    ETTX looks like a range trading 60M market cap biotech who specializes in bacterial biotech...are you getting these plays because of insider purchasing and owning and thus the float is small or that they have potential that the market is not seeing in the near future?

    Biotechs as you know can sit dormant for years until an event moves them. 

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    So I like biotech micro caps...but CYCC what is the catalyst to make it go from almost 40 down to 4 bucks? Of course I could dig it out myself since you mentioned it I am curious about your thoughts on it.

    ETTX looks like a range trading 60M market cap biotech who specializes in bacterial biotech...are you getting these plays because of insider purchasing and owning and thus the float is small or that they have potential that the market is not seeing in the near future?

    Biotechs as you know can sit dormant for years until an event moves them. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2020 - 11:14 AM ET #12

    I agree with you about biotechs using the market to fund operations...a stock that is common around here does it all the time. OMER releases news and has an offering every so often, total pump and dump. 

    So what releases are you tracking that shows relationships with "investment" firms that are going to follow this game plan? Do you watch cash levels and know when it is time to prime the pump? 

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    I agree with you about biotechs using the market to fund operations...a stock that is common around here does it all the time. OMER releases news and has an offering every so often, total pump and dump. 

    So what releases are you tracking that shows relationships with "investment" firms that are going to follow this game plan? Do you watch cash levels and know when it is time to prime the pump? 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2020 - 2:12 PM ET #13

    Yeah usually I do not like RS companies because it means they are  continually soaking the market and diluting the common then repeat by flipping another RS...just a slot machine over and over.

    I also do not like equity investment for shares at a highly discounted price because it means the owner will be selling to cash out on the way up. Id rather have more owners with less of a stake. On the ETTX is there warrants you are not including or convertible debt you are not including? I have a hard time thinking one firm owns 95 percent of the common...does not sound right.

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    Yeah usually I do not like RS companies because it means they are  continually soaking the market and diluting the common then repeat by flipping another RS...just a slot machine over and over.

    I also do not like equity investment for shares at a highly discounted price because it means the owner will be selling to cash out on the way up. Id rather have more owners with less of a stake. On the ETTX is there warrants you are not including or convertible debt you are not including? I have a hard time thinking one firm owns 95 percent of the common...does not sound right.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2020 - 2:16 PM ET #14

    I found this...

     

    https://seekingalpha.com/filing/5149569

    8M shares and warrants to get 9M more...

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    I found this...

     

    https://seekingalpha.com/filing/5149569

    8M shares and warrants to get 9M more...

     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2020 - 6:33 AM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    I agree with you about biotechs using the market to fund operations...a stock that is common around here does it all the time. OMER releases news and has an offering every so often, total pump and dump.  So what releases are you tracking that shows relationships with "investment" firms that are going to follow this game plan? Do you watch cash levels and know when it is time to prime the pump?

     

    The 5 posts/day rule is killing me. 

     

    Our "risk" bands are exactly that, your last sentence.  Cash available, cash burn etc... many calculations going on to create the green EM -  Entry Model - levels that are on our charts. 

     

    ENLV which just ran last week was a very nice play, but was in our EM3 band. A little more risky, but with the expected COVID news warranted a play.  And look what happened

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    I agree with you about biotechs using the market to fund operations...a stock that is common around here does it all the time. OMER releases news and has an offering every so often, total pump and dump.  So what releases are you tracking that shows relationships with "investment" firms that are going to follow this game plan? Do you watch cash levels and know when it is time to prime the pump?

     

    The 5 posts/day rule is killing me. 

     

    Our "risk" bands are exactly that, your last sentence.  Cash available, cash burn etc... many calculations going on to create the green EM -  Entry Model - levels that are on our charts. 

     

    ENLV which just ran last week was a very nice play, but was in our EM3 band. A little more risky, but with the expected COVID news warranted a play.  And look what happened

     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2020 - 6:40 AM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    I found this...   https://seekingalpha.com/filing/5149569 8M shares and warrants to get 9M more...

     

    That was in addition to what they already owned.

    Here is their 13D filing after they purchased those 8m+9m


    https://www.bamsec.com/filing/89914020000390?cik=1724344

     

    We put out a research paper on ETTX  on substack Friday, but I will not link it. 

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    I found this...   https://seekingalpha.com/filing/5149569 8M shares and warrants to get 9M more...

     

    That was in addition to what they already owned.

    Here is their 13D filing after they purchased those 8m+9m


    https://www.bamsec.com/filing/89914020000390?cik=1724344

     

    We put out a research paper on ETTX  on substack Friday, but I will not link it. 

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    I agree with you about biotechs using the market to fund operations...a stock that is common around here does it all the time. OMER releases news and has an offering every so often, total pump and dump.  So what releases are you tracking that shows relationships with "investment" firms that are going to follow this game plan? Do you watch cash levels and know when it is time to prime the pump?

     

    Also - OMER - what a funny company, I have never looked into this one before as it is so far outside our bands, it never comes up in a search.  I would be a play between $1-2 for us, maybe. 

    But, they executed a double whammy in August it looks.  A pump and dump on positive news (right inside our burnt orange event prediction) with a 424 to sell shares when it hit the peak at $25.  Then another 424  for shares to close the institutional short. 

    They are also inside our FST window right now, which means the company has to change states.   I think i saw they have some kind of results update coming up this week, will be interesting to watch. 

     

    Either we will see another red dot on our chart indicating more dilution. I wonder if it will be another short and cover offering.  But something HAS to happen here

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    I agree with you about biotechs using the market to fund operations...a stock that is common around here does it all the time. OMER releases news and has an offering every so often, total pump and dump.  So what releases are you tracking that shows relationships with "investment" firms that are going to follow this game plan? Do you watch cash levels and know when it is time to prime the pump?

     

    Also - OMER - what a funny company, I have never looked into this one before as it is so far outside our bands, it never comes up in a search.  I would be a play between $1-2 for us, maybe. 

    But, they executed a double whammy in August it looks.  A pump and dump on positive news (right inside our burnt orange event prediction) with a 424 to sell shares when it hit the peak at $25.  Then another 424  for shares to close the institutional short. 

    They are also inside our FST window right now, which means the company has to change states.   I think i saw they have some kind of results update coming up this week, will be interesting to watch. 

     

    Either we will see another red dot on our chart indicating more dilution. I wonder if it will be another short and cover offering.  But something HAS to happen here

     
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    I fully understand the process you are describing but in playing these murky waters are you not going to war against the very firm offering the cash these companies need? So how can you make an entry knowing that the pump and dump scam investment company is shorting to build a position to cover with the PIPE? Ive read examples of extreme pump and dumpers that the "investment" firm actually is in cahoots with a different firm who puts out research crap to promote a company and get little fish interested to which the money firm sells into which in a sense funds the investment...sort of like the movie Boiler Room. I am not sure what the legal restrictions are for non-pink companies but I have to think that it benefits the hedge fund or investment group to build a short before rather than waiting for the day or two of the "news" event to build the short that the offering covers. The whole thing is disgusting really, how the SEC allows this is crazy.

    Regarding OMER yes they seem to rinse and repeat into news so if some event comes up I would expect a secondary to be ink wet ready to toss out there into any move higher. It makes investing into these microcaps (OMER isnt a micro) very risky because you know there is a relationship between the "bank" and the company...without this loan shark they cannot continue to fund operations and until the company gets to a critical mass they cannot engage with the bigger fish for a partnership or qualify for bank loans and debt.

    The goldmine has to be a micro with a tight operating expenses and strong management that you are not going to fight that multiple times a year secondary and worry if the company is going to toss on another funding round every time they release some update on their trials or an FDA decision.

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    I fully understand the process you are describing but in playing these murky waters are you not going to war against the very firm offering the cash these companies need? So how can you make an entry knowing that the pump and dump scam investment company is shorting to build a position to cover with the PIPE? Ive read examples of extreme pump and dumpers that the "investment" firm actually is in cahoots with a different firm who puts out research crap to promote a company and get little fish interested to which the money firm sells into which in a sense funds the investment...sort of like the movie Boiler Room. I am not sure what the legal restrictions are for non-pink companies but I have to think that it benefits the hedge fund or investment group to build a short before rather than waiting for the day or two of the "news" event to build the short that the offering covers. The whole thing is disgusting really, how the SEC allows this is crazy.

    Regarding OMER yes they seem to rinse and repeat into news so if some event comes up I would expect a secondary to be ink wet ready to toss out there into any move higher. It makes investing into these microcaps (OMER isnt a micro) very risky because you know there is a relationship between the "bank" and the company...without this loan shark they cannot continue to fund operations and until the company gets to a critical mass they cannot engage with the bigger fish for a partnership or qualify for bank loans and debt.

    The goldmine has to be a micro with a tight operating expenses and strong management that you are not going to fight that multiple times a year secondary and worry if the company is going to toss on another funding round every time they release some update on their trials or an FDA decision.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    I fully understand the process you are describing but in playing these murky waters are you not going to war against the very firm offering the cash these companies need? So how can you make an entry knowing that the pump and dump scam investment company is shorting to build a position to cover with the PIPE? Ive read examples of extreme pump and dumpers that the "investment" firm actually is in cahoots with a different firm who puts out research crap to promote a company and get little fish interested to which the money firm sells into which in a sense funds the investment...sort of like the movie Boiler Room. I am not sure what the legal restrictions are for non-pink companies but I have to think that it benefits the hedge fund or investment group to build a short before rather than waiting for the day or two of the "news" event to build the short that the offering covers. The whole thing is disgusting really, how the SEC allows this is crazy.

     

    Out of the 5000+ symbols we have modeled, currently 267 are at or below our EM2 risk bands, and in good short and long term financial health.   From here, its pretty easy to pick out which ones are being heavily controlled, accumulated and set up. 

    Our goal is not to play all 267, but be rotating in and out of 20-30 names as setups are happening, and they are ran.  Typically, we are happy to take our 40% return within a few weeks on a name, and move onto the next.  Some, we know a large move is coming and will hold out for more. 

    There are also about 8-12 Green FSTs that occur every year.   These are the slam dunk plays that are identified in the model, and these hold their value. We go incredibly heavy on these ones. 

    TORC  TOCA CBAY SBPH -   these were "back up the truck" type plays, to put in gambling terms. 

    Last year a very nice green FST for us, look at ISEE.   Imagine holding a few thousand call options on that move from $1-$8.   Again, this was modeled and we knew it was going to happen. 

     

     

    Scams are not restricted to just OTC... Every day, there are 2-3 100% NASDAQ or NYSE runners that are 100% scams.   There is a Chinese company who's main business is making charcoal from bamboo,  but as of a few months ago, also make  EV car parts.  Very nice correlation of businesses there.  (TANH)

     

    It is very scary, yet quite entertaining to read the SEC filings, and see everything that is laid out there in plain sight, once you know what you are looking for. 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    I fully understand the process you are describing but in playing these murky waters are you not going to war against the very firm offering the cash these companies need? So how can you make an entry knowing that the pump and dump scam investment company is shorting to build a position to cover with the PIPE? Ive read examples of extreme pump and dumpers that the "investment" firm actually is in cahoots with a different firm who puts out research crap to promote a company and get little fish interested to which the money firm sells into which in a sense funds the investment...sort of like the movie Boiler Room. I am not sure what the legal restrictions are for non-pink companies but I have to think that it benefits the hedge fund or investment group to build a short before rather than waiting for the day or two of the "news" event to build the short that the offering covers. The whole thing is disgusting really, how the SEC allows this is crazy.

     

    Out of the 5000+ symbols we have modeled, currently 267 are at or below our EM2 risk bands, and in good short and long term financial health.   From here, its pretty easy to pick out which ones are being heavily controlled, accumulated and set up. 

    Our goal is not to play all 267, but be rotating in and out of 20-30 names as setups are happening, and they are ran.  Typically, we are happy to take our 40% return within a few weeks on a name, and move onto the next.  Some, we know a large move is coming and will hold out for more. 

    There are also about 8-12 Green FSTs that occur every year.   These are the slam dunk plays that are identified in the model, and these hold their value. We go incredibly heavy on these ones. 

    TORC  TOCA CBAY SBPH -   these were "back up the truck" type plays, to put in gambling terms. 

    Last year a very nice green FST for us, look at ISEE.   Imagine holding a few thousand call options on that move from $1-$8.   Again, this was modeled and we knew it was going to happen. 

     

     

    Scams are not restricted to just OTC... Every day, there are 2-3 100% NASDAQ or NYSE runners that are 100% scams.   There is a Chinese company who's main business is making charcoal from bamboo,  but as of a few months ago, also make  EV car parts.  Very nice correlation of businesses there.  (TANH)

     

    It is very scary, yet quite entertaining to read the SEC filings, and see everything that is laid out there in plain sight, once you know what you are looking for. 

     

     
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    Funny you mentioned NNDM, I got that one on my list when I started reading stuff from Cathie Wood, I am pretty sure that is one she owns. She has been on a great run with her funds but mainly due to Tesla. When she brags about her team having no investment experience it kind of tarnished her image to me..that she thinks average people from generic industry can analyze and provide better results than average. In reality she caught a sweet spot on TSLA and the rest if you strip that out is probably smack in the middle of the norm. I watched NNDM for quite some time and never bit on it. I do not like the RS history it has and the fact that it is not a company based in the US. I am also not totally thrilled with the number of outstanding shares, I dont like a stock at 5 bucks with a 275M market cap...sure it can keep running but I think the valuation is stretched as it is and with Cathie being in already I would rather be in first then let others come along versus the reverse.

    So what is the hook? You have this screener and how do people access it, based on a subscription or only if you are investing X funds in and you have to play what the fund manager says?

    This kind of investing I find interesting because it is trying to get in before the crowd by digging and researching, trying to see something others have not and be in front of that event.

    One other question, what is the objective for each trade, do you rate what you are wanting to get out of it before you even enter or are you flexible watching the action and willing to risk the dump in a few days for the potential that the position takes hold and you turn a 40% day trade missed into a 400% return by holding longer?

    Some of my best trades are ones that were winning and I cut loose too quickly...

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    Funny you mentioned NNDM, I got that one on my list when I started reading stuff from Cathie Wood, I am pretty sure that is one she owns. She has been on a great run with her funds but mainly due to Tesla. When she brags about her team having no investment experience it kind of tarnished her image to me..that she thinks average people from generic industry can analyze and provide better results than average. In reality she caught a sweet spot on TSLA and the rest if you strip that out is probably smack in the middle of the norm. I watched NNDM for quite some time and never bit on it. I do not like the RS history it has and the fact that it is not a company based in the US. I am also not totally thrilled with the number of outstanding shares, I dont like a stock at 5 bucks with a 275M market cap...sure it can keep running but I think the valuation is stretched as it is and with Cathie being in already I would rather be in first then let others come along versus the reverse.

    So what is the hook? You have this screener and how do people access it, based on a subscription or only if you are investing X funds in and you have to play what the fund manager says?

    This kind of investing I find interesting because it is trying to get in before the crowd by digging and researching, trying to see something others have not and be in front of that event.

    One other question, what is the objective for each trade, do you rate what you are wanting to get out of it before you even enter or are you flexible watching the action and willing to risk the dump in a few days for the potential that the position takes hold and you turn a 40% day trade missed into a 400% return by holding longer?

    Some of my best trades are ones that were winning and I cut loose too quickly...

     
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    ARK is up 200% on their NNDM position, but its tiny relatively speaking so who knows. I think them taking a position created a very easy pump on social media and it gained this momentum.  $1  is our EM1 line, so zero interest in this.   The model produces more plays than there is available capital to play them. 

    The hook - We do offer it as a subscription based service for 3 reasons. 1 - to recoup 2 years of software engineering and development on the project.  2 - we manage a prop fund with it and have to protect our ability to take positions. However, we've found these plays to be 10x more liquid than even initially we thought.  3  - We actually want to be able to empower people with the ability to learn, and create financial independence.    The model is just a tool, you still have to read EDGAR, do a little research on trials  etc.  Comparable to gambling, this isnt a "tout" service.  We teach a man to fish.    We want to supply an alternate to all the YouTube stars telling people how to day trade, which ultimately leads to financial ruin for 99% of people. 

     

    There's not much "digging."  We try to make the model as idiot proof as possible, with nice colors presented in an easy to identify format.  Bios, we organize the events in another section that tracks and links all the clinical trials. 

     

    Objective for each trade -  40% is the bench mark of what we expect.  There's a mathematical reason for this, and the risk bands (EM0,EM2,EM3) that I talk about are mathematically based. Now, there are some plays that we know will run more for a variety of reasons, 1 being the firm who is running the book. There are some scammy Vulture Funds out there that wind up in a lot of these plays, and you learn how they execute the offering.  If a company needs to sell 8m shares,  and the Fund is getting paid 3m shares, you know its in their best interest to turn the algo on, blow out shorts and hit pay dirt. 

     

    Again, we do not marry these plays.  These are very short to mid length plays.  Ideally we like to take position a month before the anticipated run,  we have 4 bots that trade around some of our core holdings, to lower avg share cost... and then a PR comes out at 7am in the event window, and we liquidate into the volume. Never dwell on exiting a position too early. Like i said,  we sold most of our EQ position at $12, when even we had a $18 target on it.  And of course it ran to $30 that day.    However, those results aren't typical.  90% of our plays are a 7am PR, nice 40-60% run up in 15 minutes, then the company liquidates their shares needed, and the short sellers pile in and drive it back down before market opens. 

     

     

    Our last trade on PSTV,  our net share cost was a positive 16 cents. The bots had flipped so many shares while waiting for the run, that we were already positive on the play heading into the run. That wont be typical, but still shows the power of what small gains can result in. 

     

    We take a lot of shit on StockTwits for our bot Sera, who posts her daily trade logs.  Goal is to average a .15% daily gain on the account. Compounded over a year, you can do the math.    Our other bots are programmed to be a little more aggressive.  Each bot started with 200k in it, so annualized returns on that should be impressive.  

     

     

     

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    ARK is up 200% on their NNDM position, but its tiny relatively speaking so who knows. I think them taking a position created a very easy pump on social media and it gained this momentum.  $1  is our EM1 line, so zero interest in this.   The model produces more plays than there is available capital to play them. 

    The hook - We do offer it as a subscription based service for 3 reasons. 1 - to recoup 2 years of software engineering and development on the project.  2 - we manage a prop fund with it and have to protect our ability to take positions. However, we've found these plays to be 10x more liquid than even initially we thought.  3  - We actually want to be able to empower people with the ability to learn, and create financial independence.    The model is just a tool, you still have to read EDGAR, do a little research on trials  etc.  Comparable to gambling, this isnt a "tout" service.  We teach a man to fish.    We want to supply an alternate to all the YouTube stars telling people how to day trade, which ultimately leads to financial ruin for 99% of people. 

     

    There's not much "digging."  We try to make the model as idiot proof as possible, with nice colors presented in an easy to identify format.  Bios, we organize the events in another section that tracks and links all the clinical trials. 

     

    Objective for each trade -  40% is the bench mark of what we expect.  There's a mathematical reason for this, and the risk bands (EM0,EM2,EM3) that I talk about are mathematically based. Now, there are some plays that we know will run more for a variety of reasons, 1 being the firm who is running the book. There are some scammy Vulture Funds out there that wind up in a lot of these plays, and you learn how they execute the offering.  If a company needs to sell 8m shares,  and the Fund is getting paid 3m shares, you know its in their best interest to turn the algo on, blow out shorts and hit pay dirt. 

     

    Again, we do not marry these plays.  These are very short to mid length plays.  Ideally we like to take position a month before the anticipated run,  we have 4 bots that trade around some of our core holdings, to lower avg share cost... and then a PR comes out at 7am in the event window, and we liquidate into the volume. Never dwell on exiting a position too early. Like i said,  we sold most of our EQ position at $12, when even we had a $18 target on it.  And of course it ran to $30 that day.    However, those results aren't typical.  90% of our plays are a 7am PR, nice 40-60% run up in 15 minutes, then the company liquidates their shares needed, and the short sellers pile in and drive it back down before market opens. 

     

     

    Our last trade on PSTV,  our net share cost was a positive 16 cents. The bots had flipped so many shares while waiting for the run, that we were already positive on the play heading into the run. That wont be typical, but still shows the power of what small gains can result in. 

     

    We take a lot of shit on StockTwits for our bot Sera, who posts her daily trade logs.  Goal is to average a .15% daily gain on the account. Compounded over a year, you can do the math.    Our other bots are programmed to be a little more aggressive.  Each bot started with 200k in it, so annualized returns on that should be impressive.  

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2020 - 9:47 AM ET #22

    Interesting..

    So are your bots set on multiple decimal places that only someone in SOES can see, that a retail guy without level 2 does not know your bot is hanging 50k on the offer and they wonder why the bid/ask isnt changing?

    I had my 55 back when there was not three decimal places plus on stocks, the move off eighths was still working its way through. It sounds like in this market environment your strategy should work..but if ever the market does pull in and the kids lose their robinhood accounts, then nobody is watching volume movers and the plays might not get the activity needed to get out of your positions.

    I  think there is always a market for bio pumps but in this environment it is easier. You watching KXIN this morning? That chart looks like death..

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    Interesting..

    So are your bots set on multiple decimal places that only someone in SOES can see, that a retail guy without level 2 does not know your bot is hanging 50k on the offer and they wonder why the bid/ask isnt changing?

    I had my 55 back when there was not three decimal places plus on stocks, the move off eighths was still working its way through. It sounds like in this market environment your strategy should work..but if ever the market does pull in and the kids lose their robinhood accounts, then nobody is watching volume movers and the plays might not get the activity needed to get out of your positions.

    I  think there is always a market for bio pumps but in this environment it is easier. You watching KXIN this morning? That chart looks like death..

     
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    KXIN is a week early before a projected RED FST event window.  So we knew a volatility event was coming, but obviously not to this extent.   It wasn't on our radar at all as it looks like crap on the model.  Many of these mega runners like this are just manipulated junk. 

     

    I'm sure anyone watching tape this morning would have seen the algo they turned on that prevented this from halting on the way up. They had that 1 halt off open, but look at how mechanical that chart is. Run it up, tiny little dump to prevent halt... run it up, little dump. so unnatural. 

    I didn't read through much of the filings, but I'm sure who ever is holding that $21m convertible debt note is behind this, and buying another yacht. Or whatever ultra rich in China do. 

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    KXIN is a week early before a projected RED FST event window.  So we knew a volatility event was coming, but obviously not to this extent.   It wasn't on our radar at all as it looks like crap on the model.  Many of these mega runners like this are just manipulated junk. 

     

    I'm sure anyone watching tape this morning would have seen the algo they turned on that prevented this from halting on the way up. They had that 1 halt off open, but look at how mechanical that chart is. Run it up, tiny little dump to prevent halt... run it up, little dump. so unnatural. 

    I didn't read through much of the filings, but I'm sure who ever is holding that $21m convertible debt note is behind this, and buying another yacht. Or whatever ultra rich in China do. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2020 - 12:33 PM ET #24

    So does sell mean sell a long or short and does bot mean buy long or cover short?

    What percent of trades are started and finished inside a week, inside a month and what percent are long term holds vs selling? And what is the ratio of winners to losers, do you have a stop on longs and what level is that?

    No system pumps out all winners, I'd say a good win percentage is likely 60%, but nobody talks about the losers...

    When I posted that message above KXIN was about 3, it ran to over 13 and now hovering at 8. I fully expect a retrace back to 3 today or within a period of time. Its a Chinese scam stock.

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    So does sell mean sell a long or short and does bot mean buy long or cover short?

    What percent of trades are started and finished inside a week, inside a month and what percent are long term holds vs selling? And what is the ratio of winners to losers, do you have a stop on longs and what level is that?

    No system pumps out all winners, I'd say a good win percentage is likely 60%, but nobody talks about the losers...

    When I posted that message above KXIN was about 3, it ran to over 13 and now hovering at 8. I fully expect a retrace back to 3 today or within a period of time. Its a Chinese scam stock.

     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2020 - 12:36 PM ET #25

    So what is the trigger for a halt? Ive seen those with these scam runners...is it a percentage increase or decrease during a period of time? I did not notice a halt at all, I have it streaming on my Ameritrade acct, but not level 2 or any SOES setup, that was long ago for me.

    These micro halts and weekly options expiry are some massive casino action...nuts I tell you.

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    So what is the trigger for a halt? Ive seen those with these scam runners...is it a percentage increase or decrease during a period of time? I did not notice a halt at all, I have it streaming on my Ameritrade acct, but not level 2 or any SOES setup, that was long ago for me.

    These micro halts and weekly options expiry are some massive casino action...nuts I tell you.

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