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Posted: #26
Quote Originally Posted by mafioso:

Dude, you are an absolute imbecile.
Keep trusting the offshore game and get burned hard one day.
Vegas, that's not even in the thought process.
Post a bad line somehow by mistake and they eat it. As opposed to the silly offshore game where they rule it no action.
Also Vegas cannot profile you If you bet more dogs than favorites or unders than overs.
Vegas doesn't adjust the lines accoding to your play.
I remember years ago. When you were still swimming in your dad's nut sack.
A place called grand central sports offshore book
Gave me a total of 194.5 for an nba game and gave a friend of mine a line of 197.5
He liked to bet overs. I loved unders.
Bam we caught them and posted our findings at bettorsworld that was one of the very few forums back then.

Point is betting God lol
Vegas can not and does not profile you.
Yes I have an offshore account but Vegas is and always will be king as my comfort level of getting paid and not ripped off makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside.
So your argument is dead right there. Let this thread die like your money will for sure when something goes wrong in your offshore world.

Yea sure, bud. I may be young but I made a fortune in Vegas sportsbooks with only $1000 bankroll I won from an Offshore Book. I got to Vegas only to find out how terrible the lines are out of fear and how much juice they charge out of greed. 

Whatever you preach about Vegas is your own theroitical opinion and what I'm saying to the public is proven facts. Don't get me wrong... I do enjoy Sportbook environment from time to time and that's just that. 

As for your example above... Well, you can buy points from an Offshore book and you cannot buy points in Vegas except for .5 point in American Football. 

Yes, offshore books will certainly payout. Don't even tell me your offshore book never paid out. 

I'm making public aware for what they're facing when they go to a Vegas SportsBook. Terrible wagering lines and horrendous customer service. Make me sick! 

By the way.... I'm posting my plays for quite sometimes on the various forums here. Go check out and get back to me, you Vegas lapdog.
 
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Lol. You started 5 and 0 in baseball. You lost 3 in a row and never posted another baseball play.

Only an amature guys points. And don't tell me off the magic number of 3 in football as those games for the most part are blowouts.

Also a sportsbook online will never rip you off lol
Ask some of the fine posters here about the beted scandal or Google beted yourself genious.

This was a book that was endorced by covers.
100s if not a thousand clients got ripped off and it ruined covers reputation.
 
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Posted: #28
Quote Originally Posted by Badboymike:


As for your example above... Well, you can buy points from an Offshore book and you cannot buy points in Vegas except for .5 point in American Football. 


I love how Mafioso's example pointed out that books can give different customers different lines, they can cancel bets at their choosing, they can profile you, limit you, and basically close your account at a fingers snap.........and the above is your comeback to that?  As if buying points makes up for this.  
 
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I've had enough foriegn checks bounce on me over the years to realize that betting online in the post Neteller days SUCKS
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Bling:

I've had enough foriegn checks bounce on me over the years to realize that betting online in the post Neteller days SUCKS

Bling Bling, 

Get a payout with WU or MG. That's what I do and it's always ready and available in a short period of time. 
 
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Posted: #31
You guys can come up with however many theroitical opinions as you want. But I'm only stating the facts here. 

Your online account will not be closed for proper and regular activities with correct personal information. 

Online Books beat down Vegas worthless Books any given day. 
 
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Posted: #32
Quote Originally Posted by Badboymike:


Bling Bling, 

Get a payout with WU or MG. That's what I do and it's always ready and available in a short period of time. 
Yeah, that works until you do it once too often and you get banned for life.  I got banned in 2006 and haven't been able to use the service since
 
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Posted: #33
Theoretical Opinions you dummy?
Have you looked at the SBR-List of books that dont pay?

12 books have an F rating
42 Books have a D- rating
12 books have a D rating
29 Books have a D+ Rating
17 Books have a C- Rating
19 Books have a C Rating
17 Books have a C+ Rating
These are books that Slow Pay you to death Make excuses not to pay you or worse do not have the money to pay you or have No intention of ever paying you.

Now the list below is books that will pay you but after pulling teeth

15 Books are rated B- that includes Carib Sports for Christ Sakes.
17 Books are rated B 
12 books are rated B+ that includes youwager

Now the books that Pay on time
8 Books that are A- only 3 take US Customers lol
7 Books that are Rated A lol only 2 take US Customers
7 Books that are Rated A+ lol only 4 take US customers and 2 out of 4 are really bookmaker.

You really have 7 outs as a US players online
44 books will slow pay you
the rest will rip you off thats 148 that will gladly take your money and never pay you.

out of those 7 that will take your business
One has a psychotic owner who actually thinks he is a God

they will all profile you
they will change lines on you at the half
NEVER IN YOUR FAVOR IT SEEMS


You never have these issues in Vegas
all casinos will pay you 
no casinos can profile you
Lines are rock solid as Vegas would rather move the moneyline attached to a game rather than the line itself.

This is a stupid thread started by a moron who felt he can bully people into thinking his way is right.
He never anticipated anyone to challenge his ridiculous if not wreck-less opinion, then the Imbecile states he is providing facts.
No moron
I provided the facts
You provided a flawed opinion
Now shut your trap
get in that kitchen 
and cook your boyfriend DINNER
Hes had a rough day working to support your degenerate gambling addiction.  


 
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"This is a stupid thread started by a moron who felt he can bully people into thinking his way is right.
He never anticipated anyone to challenge his ridiculous if not wreck-less opinion, then the Imbecile states he is providing facts".
No moron,
I provided the facts,
You provided a flawed opinion,
Now shut your trap
get in that kitchen 
and cook your boyfriend DINNER
He's had a rough day working to support your degenerate gambling addiction.  


[/Quote]  well said Mafioso.......

BTW anyone seeking in-depth information in regards to Online/Offshore sportbooks can go to osga.com where you can verify all the above information submitted by Mafioso as true, and factual...and to all sport bettors using an online service from the USA. remember; they don't have to pay you anything upon a WIN, and there is absolutely 'nothing' you can do about it...nothing, zero; who you going to call? placing any bet from an American location is illegal..placing a bet in Nevada is monitored by the Nevada Gaming Control, whom protect all wagers, nobody gets fukced or scammed by LV SportBooks, the line is based on the balance of the book, as far as 'buying' points is concerned, if ever there was a sucker bet situation, it has to be the offering of point buying by online books, this is most likely the stupidest thread I have ever came across in a Covers forum. I never thought I would see the day when a complete moron would even 'try' to compare an online sportsbook service to LV Books; there is NO comparison

 
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Posted: #35
Quote Originally Posted by j-walk:


If they are shading the line 2 points one way a sharp capper would know how to take advantage of that and find value on the other side.  You act like because the team you like isn't getting the line you want then it's a bad line.  What about the guy playing the other team against you?  He's like, hell ya I love Vegas lines!  Maybe Vegas has more squares to worry about so they shade their lines harder to square plays.
absolutely, I guess the author of this thread never took that under consideration when making his asinine commentary; good call, and a good point brought forward
 
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Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

 this is most likely the stupidest thread I have ever came across in a Covers forum. I never thought I would see the day when a complete moron would even 'try' to compare an online sportsbook service to LV Books; there is NO comparison

Not only that, the vigor in which he tries to argue his futile point of view.
It is so dumb in every way shape and form.
I tried to play nice at first as I assumed he is just another dumba$$
But man, he kept arguing over and over and every turn he gets shot down and gets the error of his thinking explained to him but no avail.

so 4 years ago I western unioned 2000 to bookmaker
Iv made several withdrawls
then I place a wager listed pitchers my pitcher was scrateched before game time, they graded my play a loss
after calling them and chatting with them for 20 minutes and getting handed over to supervisor after supervisor I was told there was no scratch.
Down right lied to me, I had 9K left in the book
that was a 360 to win 300 wager that should have pushed.

I was so upset that for the next 3 months I requested payouts.
I will not play with them ever again
Bookmaker
betdsi
vietbet
betcris 
all part of the bookmaker family.

So, I send 1500 6 months ago to Heritage sports thru western union
Western union puts a hold on it.
I speak to an agent and they tell me that the name I am sending it to has been flagged.

I was lucky to get my money
I asked for another name and had my wife send it
Same thing happens to her.

Finally we sent 1000 thru money gram
and my wife sent another 1000 thru money gram
and 3 days later we did it again

but its not worth it
Im no pro
I enjoy playing but not at the expense of going thru all that just to fund an account.

You want to compare these piece of crap places to a Vegas book,
CHILD PLEASE 
 
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Posted: #37
Relax Mafioso. You will fall under questioning and potential to become a RAT. 

Stick with A-Rated Books and everything should be fine.

 Really, it's common sense. You didn't have to write a thesis to present of statement for admission of guilt. 

As far as depositing and withdraw process goes.... NEVER HAD AN ISSUE. 

Guys, please be honest and provide all the accurate and correct information to Offshore Books. You will be just fine. 
 
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Posted: #38
Dude, you are hopeless.
There's an old saying probably meant for you exclusively.
Sometimes it's better to remain silent and be thought of as a fool
Then to speak
And
Remove all doubt.
 
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Posted: #39
Many of those books that stiffed people and went under were once "A-Rated" books.

The fact is that no matter how reliable you think an offshore book is, there is always a risk trusting them with your money.

There is ZERO risk in Vegas. 
 
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You "Vegas" behind sniffing brown nosers act like you don't have an Offshore Book! 

You sniffers would be the first to complain on here if that Offshore Book wasn't paying out. 

Facts: Majority of the money in this wager game come from Offshore. 

Citing Source: ME! 

Now go check out my plays and you'll know why! 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by mafioso:

Dude, you are hopeless.
There's an old saying probably meant for you exclusively.
Sometimes it's better to remain silent and be thought of as a fool
Then to speak
And
Remove all doubt.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Badboymike:

 

Facts: Majority of the money in this wager game come from Offshore. 


Dude I don't know how to respond to this other then DUH!!!  The only city in this country that you can bet single games is Las Vegas.  So obviously the people everywhere else in the country have only 1 other option.  So again this proves nothing.

A great point was made about how many of these book who have screwed people, were once A rated.  So it's very ignorant to just say "stick with A rated book and you'll be fine"

Online will never compare to being able to cash a ticket immediately and in person. Never.
 
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Posted: #43
He's no longer worth any response.
We broke it down to the A$$hole in multiple ways and he is choosing the ignorance is bliss route
 
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Quote Originally Posted by mafioso:

He's no longer worth any response.
We broke it down to the A$$hole in multiple ways and he is choosing the ignorance is bliss route

Go ahead! Go boycott me. Next time, I'll take you all out in a date and cuddle with you afterwards. Then you'll think I'm nice. 

By the way, those days of A- Books stiffing players are done and over with. The industry is larger and players are more aware with a lot more available tools at your finger tip. 

OffShore Books are King! Period! 
 
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At the 5dimes Customer Service:

"Tony pick up lines 6 and 7"
The greatest reason to bet Las  Vegas.BadBoy doesn't know Tony!Period.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by 666LES:

At the 5dimes Customer Service:

"Tony pick up lines 6 and 7"
The greatest reason to bet Las  Vegas.BadBoy doesn't know Tony!Period.

Out of the 7 US Books you can bet with 
4 are really bookmaker 
and the Lunatic who thinks he is a God is that Imbecile Tony.
So really there are only 2 real Options for US Bettors if you dont want issues.

Nothing is better than Vegas
Not now Not Ever
 
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Mike's right:  Las Vegas has become an expensive joke since it has been "corporatized".  "Old" Vegas, run by organized crime, was FAR better.  They treated you right and it was MUCH cheaper.  Today, every aspect is looked at as a "profit center".  In the older days, they would practically give away, food, shows, rooms, etc., knowing full well that this would generate repeat customers and they would more than make up for it on the gambling.  And what's with all these kids running around out there now?  This idea of turning Vegas into  "family" destination is a losing idea.

Crime has also gotten much worse in Las Vegas since has been corporatized.  Gangs are all over the place.  There was very little crime when organized crime ran the joint.  Street gangs, if there were any, would simply disappear somewhere out in the desert.

 
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Posted: #48
OP is dead on.

Vegas sportsbooks are useless.  They take zero risk and offer nothing of value.  

Add to that the shitty service/food and drink prices and you've got one big person up your behind.  Every sports book in that city is a terrible environment with terrible food and a bunch of losers watching games.

Vegas is in the middle of nowhere and costs an arm and a leg to get there.  It offers absolutely no value to 99.9% of wagerers.

Food and entertainment outside of the books is the best in the world but vegas sportsbooks=useless




 
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LOL, Original poster is an Idiot.
Guess you guys missed the post I made regarding there are 148 books out there still operating that are there to stiff you.
But You guys all think you are right, so please Carry on.
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by bejabbers:

  And what's with all these kids running around out there now?  This idea of turning Vegas into  "family" destination is a losing idea.




The "Family" idea for Vegas has been dead for over 15 years.  Vegas realized it was a huge mistake by the late 90s and haven't looked back since.  All the hotels built since then have been not that kid friendly and more toward the luxurious side.  
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