What seperates a great writer, from a commercial one, is how he answers and ties everything up in the end. This is what seperates Shakespeares from Stephen King's. The problem with the ending is that it doesn't somehow tie everything up. Any writer can throw hundreds, thousands, or millions of twists, turns, mysteries, and etc into a story. But it is how he ties it up in the end that makes him great. The writers ended the story on emotional value. This is something the ancient writers would do if they wanted to end the play hastily. If you hit human emotions, everything else becomes trivial. But LOST can be summed up as follows; Plane crashes, people survive, they fight good and evil, they enter another dimension, and reunite and go to heaven for their good deeds. But, what is the island? What is Walt's signifigance? What and why was the Darhma initiative?
Here is your answer; All those things were fillers. They meant nothing. They were commercial writings. They were to extend the series so that the network can make cash. I thought the ending was entertaining. But as an educated person, I can see bad writing a mile away. Though, commercially and profit wise, it was genius.
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What seperates a great writer, from a commercial one, is how he answers and ties everything up in the end. This is what seperates Shakespeares from Stephen King's. The problem with the ending is that it doesn't somehow tie everything up. Any writer can throw hundreds, thousands, or millions of twists, turns, mysteries, and etc into a story. But it is how he ties it up in the end that makes him great. The writers ended the story on emotional value. This is something the ancient writers would do if they wanted to end the play hastily. If you hit human emotions, everything else becomes trivial. But LOST can be summed up as follows; Plane crashes, people survive, they fight good and evil, they enter another dimension, and reunite and go to heaven for their good deeds. But, what is the island? What is Walt's signifigance? What and why was the Darhma initiative?
Here is your answer; All those things were fillers. They meant nothing. They were commercial writings. They were to extend the series so that the network can make cash. I thought the ending was entertaining. But as an educated person, I can see bad writing a mile away. Though, commercially and profit wise, it was genius.
What seperates a great writer, from a commercial one, is how he answers and ties everything up in the end. This is what seperates Shakespeares from Stephen King's. The problem with the ending is that it doesn't somehow tie everything up. Any writer can throw hundreds, thousands, or millions of twists, turns, mysteries, and etc into a story. But it is how he ties it up in the end that makes him great. The writers ended the story on emotional value. This is something the ancient writers would do if they wanted to end the play hastily. If you hit human emotions, everything else becomes trivial. But LOST can be summed up as follows; Plane crashes, people survive, they fight good and evil, they enter another dimension, and reunite and go to heaven for their good deeds. But, what is the island? What is Walt's signifigance? What and why was the Darhma initiative?
Here is your answer; All those things were fillers. They meant nothing. They were commercial writings. They were to extend the series so that the network can make cash. I thought the ending was entertaining. But as an educated person, I can see bad writing a mile away. Though, commercially and profit wise, it was genius.
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Quote Originally Posted by NoParlays:
What seperates a great writer, from a commercial one, is how he answers and ties everything up in the end. This is what seperates Shakespeares from Stephen King's. The problem with the ending is that it doesn't somehow tie everything up. Any writer can throw hundreds, thousands, or millions of twists, turns, mysteries, and etc into a story. But it is how he ties it up in the end that makes him great. The writers ended the story on emotional value. This is something the ancient writers would do if they wanted to end the play hastily. If you hit human emotions, everything else becomes trivial. But LOST can be summed up as follows; Plane crashes, people survive, they fight good and evil, they enter another dimension, and reunite and go to heaven for their good deeds. But, what is the island? What is Walt's signifigance? What and why was the Darhma initiative?
Here is your answer; All those things were fillers. They meant nothing. They were commercial writings. They were to extend the series so that the network can make cash. I thought the ending was entertaining. But as an educated person, I can see bad writing a mile away. Though, commercially and profit wise, it was genius.
What seperates a great writer, from a commercial one, is how he answers and ties everything up in the end. This is what seperates Shakespeares from Stephen King's. The problem with the ending is that it doesn't somehow tie everything up. Any writer can throw hundreds, thousands, or millions of twists, turns, mysteries, and etc into a story. But it is how he ties it up in the end that makes him great. The writers ended the story on emotional value. This is something the ancient writers would do if they wanted to end the play hastily. If you hit human emotions, everything else becomes trivial. But LOST can be summed up as follows; Plane crashes, people survive, they fight good and evil, they enter another dimension, and reunite and go to heaven for their good deeds. But, what is the island? What is Walt's signifigance? What and why was the Darhma initiative?
Here is your answer; All those things were fillers. They meant nothing. They were commercial writings. They were to extend the series so that the network can make cash. I thought the ending was entertaining. But as an educated person, I can see bad writing a mile away. Though, commercially and profit wise, it was genius.
You can't really take what you said seriously if you think the writing on LOST was bad. LOST has always been about the characters and the emotions that they went through. Sure some things were fillers but you basically said the most important parts of the show were fillers and that is insane.
In regards to your questions. If you actually watched the show you would know all those things were answered.
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Quote Originally Posted by NoParlays:
What seperates a great writer, from a commercial one, is how he answers and ties everything up in the end. This is what seperates Shakespeares from Stephen King's. The problem with the ending is that it doesn't somehow tie everything up. Any writer can throw hundreds, thousands, or millions of twists, turns, mysteries, and etc into a story. But it is how he ties it up in the end that makes him great. The writers ended the story on emotional value. This is something the ancient writers would do if they wanted to end the play hastily. If you hit human emotions, everything else becomes trivial. But LOST can be summed up as follows; Plane crashes, people survive, they fight good and evil, they enter another dimension, and reunite and go to heaven for their good deeds. But, what is the island? What is Walt's signifigance? What and why was the Darhma initiative?
Here is your answer; All those things were fillers. They meant nothing. They were commercial writings. They were to extend the series so that the network can make cash. I thought the ending was entertaining. But as an educated person, I can see bad writing a mile away. Though, commercially and profit wise, it was genius.
You can't really take what you said seriously if you think the writing on LOST was bad. LOST has always been about the characters and the emotions that they went through. Sure some things were fillers but you basically said the most important parts of the show were fillers and that is insane.
In regards to your questions. If you actually watched the show you would know all those things were answered.
This is the only thing that can make somewhat sense right now..........I liked the finale a lot until the end..........My wife's been saying for 3 years that they were dead, and I was saying "That's stupid".........well she was right, and I think the show was stupid
Your wife was wrong all that time. They weren't all dead. Everything that happened on the island and off when they escaped happened. The flash sideways that began in season 6 was a place where they were all dead. Time has no meaning in limbo. In some religions, before truly crossing over, you meet up with all the people who were important to you. That is what the flash sideways and finale was all about. If you understand it, it was actually brilliant.
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Quote Originally Posted by Iveycheats:
This is the only thing that can make somewhat sense right now..........I liked the finale a lot until the end..........My wife's been saying for 3 years that they were dead, and I was saying "That's stupid".........well she was right, and I think the show was stupid
Your wife was wrong all that time. They weren't all dead. Everything that happened on the island and off when they escaped happened. The flash sideways that began in season 6 was a place where they were all dead. Time has no meaning in limbo. In some religions, before truly crossing over, you meet up with all the people who were important to you. That is what the flash sideways and finale was all about. If you understand it, it was actually brilliant.
What seperates a great writer, from a commercial one, is how he answers and ties everything up in the end. This is what seperates Shakespeares from Stephen King's. The problem with the ending is that it doesn't somehow tie everything up. Any writer can throw hundreds, thousands, or millions of twists, turns, mysteries, and etc into a story. But it is how he ties it up in the end that makes him great. The writers ended the story on emotional value. This is something the ancient writers would do if they wanted to end the play hastily. If you hit human emotions, everything else becomes trivial. But LOST can be summed up as follows; Plane crashes, people survive, they fight good and evil, they enter another dimension, and reunite and go to heaven for their good deeds. But, what is the island? What is Walt's signifigance? What and why was the Darhma initiative?
Here is your answer; All those things were fillers. They meant nothing. They were commercial writings. They were to extend the series so that the network can make cash. I thought the ending was entertaining. But as an educated person, I can see bad writing a mile away. Though, commercially and profit wise, it was genius.
Actually you'd be wrong. You think the story needs to answer those questions because you want them answered. The fact of the matter is that, we the audience, were in the same boat, as the survivors. We knew what they did and were in the dark the same as they were. Just as their story simply wasn't one that ended with finding out exactly what the island was, the same can be said for us. Its not about good/bad writing (its probably the best written show in history by the way) and your feeling that it was filler b/c you personally didn't get the answers you wanted. Just as in life, you don't always get all the answers.
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Quote Originally Posted by NoParlays:
What seperates a great writer, from a commercial one, is how he answers and ties everything up in the end. This is what seperates Shakespeares from Stephen King's. The problem with the ending is that it doesn't somehow tie everything up. Any writer can throw hundreds, thousands, or millions of twists, turns, mysteries, and etc into a story. But it is how he ties it up in the end that makes him great. The writers ended the story on emotional value. This is something the ancient writers would do if they wanted to end the play hastily. If you hit human emotions, everything else becomes trivial. But LOST can be summed up as follows; Plane crashes, people survive, they fight good and evil, they enter another dimension, and reunite and go to heaven for their good deeds. But, what is the island? What is Walt's signifigance? What and why was the Darhma initiative?
Here is your answer; All those things were fillers. They meant nothing. They were commercial writings. They were to extend the series so that the network can make cash. I thought the ending was entertaining. But as an educated person, I can see bad writing a mile away. Though, commercially and profit wise, it was genius.
Actually you'd be wrong. You think the story needs to answer those questions because you want them answered. The fact of the matter is that, we the audience, were in the same boat, as the survivors. We knew what they did and were in the dark the same as they were. Just as their story simply wasn't one that ended with finding out exactly what the island was, the same can be said for us. Its not about good/bad writing (its probably the best written show in history by the way) and your feeling that it was filler b/c you personally didn't get the answers you wanted. Just as in life, you don't always get all the answers.
Actually you'd be wrong. You think the story needs to answer those questions because you want them answered. The fact of the matter is that, we the audience, were in the same boat, as the survivors. We knew what they did and were in the dark the same as they were. Just as their story simply wasn't one that ended with finding out exactly what the island was, the same can be said for us. Its not about good/bad writing (its probably the best written show in history by the way) and your feeling that it was filler b/c you personally didn't get the answers you wanted. Just as in life, you don't always get all the answers.
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Quote Originally Posted by NYBartender:
Actually you'd be wrong. You think the story needs to answer those questions because you want them answered. The fact of the matter is that, we the audience, were in the same boat, as the survivors. We knew what they did and were in the dark the same as they were. Just as their story simply wasn't one that ended with finding out exactly what the island was, the same can be said for us. Its not about good/bad writing (its probably the best written show in history by the way) and your feeling that it was filler b/c you personally didn't get the answers you wanted. Just as in life, you don't always get all the answers.
basically you can skip to the 5 minute mark...in the first 5 minutes he just talks about how in present world, people have more faith on mysticism (mostly religion) than reason and evidence
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basically you can skip to the 5 minute mark...in the first 5 minutes he just talks about how in present world, people have more faith on mysticism (mostly religion) than reason and evidence
Your wife was wrong all that time. They weren't all dead. Everything that happened on the island and off when they escaped happened. The flash sideways that began in season 6 was a place where they were all dead. Time has no meaning in limbo. In some religions, before truly crossing over, you meet up with all the people who were important to you. That is what the flash sideways and finale was all about. If you understand it, it was actually brilliant.
It wasn't brilliant and was an M. Night Shamalan type ending IMO b'c if that was the case then you could cut out about 33% of the show and just given me the meat and potato of the show...
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Quote Originally Posted by NYBartender:
Your wife was wrong all that time. They weren't all dead. Everything that happened on the island and off when they escaped happened. The flash sideways that began in season 6 was a place where they were all dead. Time has no meaning in limbo. In some religions, before truly crossing over, you meet up with all the people who were important to you. That is what the flash sideways and finale was all about. If you understand it, it was actually brilliant.
It wasn't brilliant and was an M. Night Shamalan type ending IMO b'c if that was the case then you could cut out about 33% of the show and just given me the meat and potato of the show...
It wasn't brilliant and was an M. Night Shamalan type ending IMO b'c if that was the case then you could cut out about 33% of the show and just given me the meat and potato of the show...
Shamalan is known for huge twist endings or at least trying to create those huge twists. This ending had no twist at all. It simply was what it was and cutting out 1/3 of the show makes no sense. You'd be losing the entire arc of what these people went through and thats pretty much the point of the show; what you do in life and how it reflects.
Obviously it all comes down to opinions as people can argue endlessly. I have a Masters in Creative Writing and work in the field so from a writer's perspective, I found it to be, as I said, brilliant. That is, of course, just my lone opinion.
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Quote Originally Posted by mohjo:
It wasn't brilliant and was an M. Night Shamalan type ending IMO b'c if that was the case then you could cut out about 33% of the show and just given me the meat and potato of the show...
Shamalan is known for huge twist endings or at least trying to create those huge twists. This ending had no twist at all. It simply was what it was and cutting out 1/3 of the show makes no sense. You'd be losing the entire arc of what these people went through and thats pretty much the point of the show; what you do in life and how it reflects.
Obviously it all comes down to opinions as people can argue endlessly. I have a Masters in Creative Writing and work in the field so from a writer's perspective, I found it to be, as I said, brilliant. That is, of course, just my lone opinion.
Shamalan is known for huge twist endings or at least trying to create those huge twists. This ending had no twist at all. It simply was what it was and cutting out 1/3 of the show makes no sense. You'd be losing the entire arc of what these people went through and thats pretty much the point of the show; what you do in life and how it reflects.
Obviously it all comes down to opinions as people can argue endlessly. I have a Masters in Creative Writing and work in the field so from a writer's perspective, I found it to be, as I said, brilliant. That is, of course, just my lone opinion.
I respect the position that you must look at it from but I'm just a law school student who doesn't look at it from that point of view but if I did I know I'd have much more appreciation for it
But speaking as a pure fan a lot of the story lines were filler and could have been cut out or not made to look so important...
This is to me is sooo far below par it's laughable to me and that's probably the stance I have b'c The Wire really made it difficult for shows to end on a highnote
B'c every single scene and episode had a major purpose as compared to many of the Lost storylines which many didn't lead to anything.
I understand that the main bulk of the story was wrapped around character development but to have 6 years of major character development and then just throw together that explainaiton at the end when they'd never explained anything in that detail was a MAJOR let down and I know I'm in the majority as far as that go
My friends are so obssessed with this show it's taken over their life but they too felt very let down by the ending...
It was a great show but that ending was very unsatisfying (which I'm sure wasn't their main purpose in life) but I do agree that it should have been done in a different manner but that's just my opinion nothing else
GL on your wagers...
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Quote Originally Posted by NYBartender:
Shamalan is known for huge twist endings or at least trying to create those huge twists. This ending had no twist at all. It simply was what it was and cutting out 1/3 of the show makes no sense. You'd be losing the entire arc of what these people went through and thats pretty much the point of the show; what you do in life and how it reflects.
Obviously it all comes down to opinions as people can argue endlessly. I have a Masters in Creative Writing and work in the field so from a writer's perspective, I found it to be, as I said, brilliant. That is, of course, just my lone opinion.
I respect the position that you must look at it from but I'm just a law school student who doesn't look at it from that point of view but if I did I know I'd have much more appreciation for it
But speaking as a pure fan a lot of the story lines were filler and could have been cut out or not made to look so important...
This is to me is sooo far below par it's laughable to me and that's probably the stance I have b'c The Wire really made it difficult for shows to end on a highnote
B'c every single scene and episode had a major purpose as compared to many of the Lost storylines which many didn't lead to anything.
I understand that the main bulk of the story was wrapped around character development but to have 6 years of major character development and then just throw together that explainaiton at the end when they'd never explained anything in that detail was a MAJOR let down and I know I'm in the majority as far as that go
My friends are so obssessed with this show it's taken over their life but they too felt very let down by the ending...
It was a great show but that ending was very unsatisfying (which I'm sure wasn't their main purpose in life) but I do agree that it should have been done in a different manner but that's just my opinion nothing else
Its not about good/bad writing (its probably the best written show in history by the way) and your feeling that it was filler b/c you personally didn't get the answers you wanted. Just as in life, you don't always get all the answers.
I hope that you don't seriously think this is the best written show in history. I hope that you have read some Ancient's and have seen other shows in the past thirty years. This was mediocre, at best.
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Quote Originally Posted by NYBartender:
Its not about good/bad writing (its probably the best written show in history by the way) and your feeling that it was filler b/c you personally didn't get the answers you wanted. Just as in life, you don't always get all the answers.
I hope that you don't seriously think this is the best written show in history. I hope that you have read some Ancient's and have seen other shows in the past thirty years. This was mediocre, at best.
I hope that you don't seriously think this is the best written show in history. I hope that you have read some Ancient's and have seen other shows in the past thirty years. This was mediocre, at best.
Based on the complexity of a six year serial, yes.
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Quote Originally Posted by NoParlays:
I hope that you don't seriously think this is the best written show in history. I hope that you have read some Ancient's and have seen other shows in the past thirty years. This was mediocre, at best.
Based on the complexity of a six year serial, yes.
Lost may be off the air, but the story isn't over yet.
Michael Emerson tells G4's Attack of the Show that a special feature on the DVD collection for the entire series will show an epilogue of what happened to Ben and Hurley (Jorge Garcia) once they took over island-protector duties from Jack (Matthew Fox).
"For those people that want to pony up and buy the complete Lost series, there is a bonus feature, which is... you could call it an epilogue," Emerson said. "A lost scene. It's a lot. It's 12 or 14 minutes that opens a window onto that gap of unknown time between Hurley becoming number one and the end of the series. It's self-contained, although it's a rich period in the show's mythology that's never been explored, so who knows what will come of it."
Lost: The Complete Collection hits stores on August 24.
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Lost may be off the air, but the story isn't over yet.
Michael Emerson tells G4's Attack of the Show that a special feature on the DVD collection for the entire series will show an epilogue of what happened to Ben and Hurley (Jorge Garcia) once they took over island-protector duties from Jack (Matthew Fox).
"For those people that want to pony up and buy the complete Lost series, there is a bonus feature, which is... you could call it an epilogue," Emerson said. "A lost scene. It's a lot. It's 12 or 14 minutes that opens a window onto that gap of unknown time between Hurley becoming number one and the end of the series. It's self-contained, although it's a rich period in the show's mythology that's never been explored, so who knows what will come of it."
Lost: The Complete Collection hits stores on August 24.
So is this epilogue only going to be on the complete collection or will it be on the single sold Season 6 DVD? I already own Seasons 1-5 so it would be pointless for me to buy a package of 1-6 just to get a 14 min explanation.
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So is this epilogue only going to be on the complete collection or will it be on the single sold Season 6 DVD? I already own Seasons 1-5 so it would be pointless for me to buy a package of 1-6 just to get a 14 min explanation.
So is this epilogue only going to be on the complete collection or will it be on the single sold Season 6 DVD? I already own Seasons 1-5 so it would be pointless for me to buy a package of 1-6 just to get a 14 min explanation.
Only in the series b'c they want to sell them but it'll be online or if enough bitch hopefully they'll include it
I'll be buying the series no matter what b'c I don't have any of the season's personally
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Quote Originally Posted by dperr:
So is this epilogue only going to be on the complete collection or will it be on the single sold Season 6 DVD? I already own Seasons 1-5 so it would be pointless for me to buy a package of 1-6 just to get a 14 min explanation.
Only in the series b'c they want to sell them but it'll be online or if enough bitch hopefully they'll include it
I'll be buying the series no matter what b'c I don't have any of the season's personally
other people died on the island and did not end up there and some who died there did
ana lucia and some others died on island didnt meet up inside the church...
boone and many others died on the island met up in the church...
none of the brothers made it to the final episode...
i think it just comes does to not wanting to put everybody in the church. they would have needed a much bigger church if they put every character who had died in the show in it. the church scene was the most important of the series and it was meant to focus on the characters we have followed for 6 years.
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Quote Originally Posted by johnyutah:
other people died on the island and did not end up there and some who died there did
ana lucia and some others died on island didnt meet up inside the church...
boone and many others died on the island met up in the church...
none of the brothers made it to the final episode...
i think it just comes does to not wanting to put everybody in the church. they would have needed a much bigger church if they put every character who had died in the show in it. the church scene was the most important of the series and it was meant to focus on the characters we have followed for 6 years.
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