LOST fans

I thought it was very interesting and mind you I write this at 3am so I am a little foggy-headed. I am really interested to see what "Flocke" wants Sawyer to do. He gave him three choices, 'have his name marked out', which I gather means die since he marked out Locke's name when he said it. Become the protector, which "flocke" doesn't want him to do because he doesn't want anyone in his way. Or 3 go home, which I guess is the temple and "flocke" see's sawyer as like a way to get into the temple. I think he plans to use Sawyer to get into the temple, or at least try. I do think Sawyer will die at some point as he seems to be the ideal person to have a heroic death for the greater good. That's about all the thought I have on it at this point, it's shaping up to be a great final season. But I am sure there are alot of people like a few I know, who want everything spelled out and answered ASAP. I like a puzzle to be revealed piece by piece and if these people have watched Lost, should realize that's the only way they can or will do it.

That is a great point about Flocke using Sawyer to get into the Temple. I had not thought about it that way. Sawyer will probably lead him there but there is no way he gives up his friends like that, no matter how much he says he doesn't care. That will probably lead to his death

To bad there's only 13 or so episodes left, with a buzzillion commercials.

The Entertainment Weekly writeup is pretty good this week.

Of course this is speculation but I think one of the people who had a "number" will take over for Jacob in the end.

Just as I think we will find out Jacob took over for someone else.

Maybe now that the man in black is "Locke" it would only be natural that Jack will take over the role as Jacob and they can fight it out for the next 1000 years or so....

But overall I liked the ep...it's interesting to see how the characters would have ended up if there was no island, alot of people are focused on the fact the 815 never crashed...but you have to remember that not only did it not crash but the island had long since been destroyed somehow.

Seeing Ben as a school teacher cracked me up...

And who else had a good laugh when Lapidus said "This is the weirdest damn funeral I've ever been to."? I did.

Yes, Hugo did own Locke's box company in the original timeline; we learned this in a throwaway line of dialogue all the way back in "Numbers" Hurley's very first flashback episode. But now instead of fearing everything he owns he seems powerfull and happy.

Locke and Helen are still together, and apparently Locke's dad isn't a conniving con-man -- he's invited to the wedding, according to Helen. But how is Locke still in a wheel chair if he has a good relationship with his Dad??

great question weahtered ...i was thinking the same thing.

I thought the same thing when Peg asked him in the tub why didn't they invite her parents and his dad to do a quickie wedding. He didn't seem to flinch or make a face at the notion. I would say it was a slip up on the part of the writers, but they are almost always on the ball with stuff. Good question though.

This was defiantly not a slip up by the writers. Locke was always meant to be in a wheel-chair. Just like Kate was always meant to be on the run and Hurley was always meant to win the lottery. The universe will always course correct itself no matter what has happened.

no way it was a slip up.  these writrs are incredible.  

Jack = next Jacob

Agreed

To answer the question about Locke, I think he just never brought his poor relationship with his father into his relationship with Helen and that is why they are still together at this point. He does not mention his father, or even acknowledge him, when Helen brings him up because this time around Locke does not care about him and understands that there cannot be a relationship with a man who stole his kidney and pushed him out a window to die.  I can picture Sawyer becoming the next "Flocke" solely because the parallel between Jacob and "Flocke" are similar the problems Jack and Sawyer face with each other. Sawyer is also torn up over Juliet, who he loved and now lost, and apparently this has happened to the "Flocke" character.

I think this "second time around" Locke clearly ended up being crippled differently than the first time.  However, just like Locke was healed on the island, I think in this new "alternate reality" Jack will be able to make him walk again, given the fact that he's a spinal surgeon.  Thus, putting the universe back in balance. Despite Locke's reluctance to go see Jack for a counseling session, they will somehow cross paths again.  Remember how Locke would always tell Jack "You have to believe", this time the balls in Locke's court. 

I could not agree more Matchup. I am just hoping we get to see how Locke was crippled this time around. 

I'm sorry guys (and gals) but when my wife has this show on and I'm in the room, I can't help but laugh.

This show is an embarrassment - it's the only word even remotely strong enough I can think of to describe it.

It is, without a shadow of a doubt, the most convoluted, make-it-up-as-we-go-but-convince-the-ignorant-masses-it-was-all-part-of-a-master-plan show in television history. You guys have convinced yourselves that its intelligent design because that's what you want to believe, not because of what is actually is.

It may be one of the better comedies going this year though...so take comfort in that.




But hey, don't let me deter you from enjoying the rest of the season. If you like it, you like it. I'm just offering a different perspective.

Heck, I love Transformers 2 and get razzed for it all the time. But it's enjoyable to me. Only difference is, I can admit/acknowledge that it's pretty ridiculous and devoid of any real substance, but entertaining nonetheless.

Have a good one!

I couldn't agree more. I don't think anyone takes Lost seriously. I think everyone here takes it as it is and that's entertainment. But it's fun to try to figure out how it is going to end. And yes to take one episode or part of episodes out of context would look crazy, as would most shows. I guess the only thing I can say is it's entertainment, just like transforming cars into robots. I think your comment about Lost, would be more accurate to say about these fools who watch reality tv and think it's actually reality.

Well, I thank you very much for proving my point for me.

That was considerably easier than I thought...

By the way, I'd be interested to see your supporting documentation on the bolded part above. Do you work for the television program/studio? Or are you claiming "pure fact" based on the speculation of others?

I just love all these pseudo-intellectuals waxing poetic about something they desperately want to understand, but fail to in reality...makes for better entertainment than the show itself.

You take care now.

riddle me this, is this the best use of your time? bashing fans of a show you don't watch?   really?

Rousseau's daughter's name was Alex if I recall.

Good thoughts on Locke, Matchup.    Clearly his relationship with his dad is quite different, but he's in the chair just the same.

It took me a while to realize that "Aldo," who showed up in the jungle during the "What Kate Does" episode, is "Mac" from "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia."  Man, talk about alternate worlds colliding.

Says the guy with 30,000+ posts over nearly 6 years...what's that, roughly 500/month? And you're questioning my time usage?



Kettle, meet pot.

Anyways, I didn't come on here with the intention to "bash"...I was simply offering a different opinion. I think this show is a joke and I would hope that all fans would at least entertain the idea that there was no "master plan" at the outset. Doesn't look too likely though...

But like I said in my first post on this forum...if you like it, you like it. I, personally, think it's silly. But hey, we all enjoy silly things - it's just different from one person to the next.

I will give the producers/writers/etc. of "Lost" kudos on one thing - they have done a magnificent job of brainwashing. They have preyed on the gullible and easily-influenced with remarkable success. Beyond that, their list of accomplishments is a short one in my opinion.

But I'll leave you fanboys to your discussion. It became immediately obvious that you won't entertain a voice of reason or a counter-perspective. So have fun. Enjoy the last season. I hope all of your "questions" get answered. And best of luck finding something to fill the void in your television schedules after this season.

All the best guys and gals.

ehhh

You should so some research first before you make all these claims about brainwashing and having no master plan. Listen to the podcasts and read articles from Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse talking about how they have known all along how the show will end. Sure things might have changed throughout each season but everything has always been written for the ending.

let him be, he will be drowning soon the next good rainstorm from being high and mighty. Let him go watch his Transformers and talk about how the story doesn't follow along with the comicbook  or cartoon.