After all the shady things I saw with totals last week, I'm staying away from totals for the rest of the year. Sides only. Trying to break out of the funk.
Denver -10
This is not a lot if points to lay in basketball. Especially when the Hawks just want to go home.
Portland -13
Once again, this number seems high but think about it this way, does Charlotte want to be in Portland tonight? Do they even want to be in the nba?
Don't be afraid to lay those numbers tonight, these are two good home teams, going against weary road teams.
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After all the shady things I saw with totals last week, I'm staying away from totals for the rest of the year. Sides only. Trying to break out of the funk.
Denver -10
This is not a lot if points to lay in basketball. Especially when the Hawks just want to go home.
Portland -13
Once again, this number seems high but think about it this way, does Charlotte want to be in Portland tonight? Do they even want to be in the nba?
Don't be afraid to lay those numbers tonight, these are two good home teams, going against weary road teams.
Been following your picks. What do think about GS/Tor total? I know u follow refs: Barnaky 25/10 O/U this season. I already locked in @ 203.5 .Rudy G. Is ?
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Been following your picks. What do think about GS/Tor total? I know u follow refs: Barnaky 25/10 O/U this season. I already locked in @ 203.5 .Rudy G. Is ?
Been following your picks. What do think about GS/Tor total? I know u follow refs: Barnaky 25/10 O/U this season. I already locked in @ 203.5 .Rudy G. Is ?
Maybe you didn't read the title of the thread?
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Quote Originally Posted by DUNDADA1:
Been following your picks. What do think about GS/Tor total? I know u follow refs: Barnaky 25/10 O/U this season. I already locked in @ 203.5 .Rudy G. Is ?
Seriously, Narco. Easier to type "I like Over" or "I like Under" than your sarcastic responses
How about learning how to read? Not asking me a question that has already been answered? I have no idea what I like in that game. I haven't even looked at it, and I won't take the time to look at it.
Reading comprehension is vital.
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Quote Originally Posted by WizrduvOdz:
Seriously, Narco. Easier to type "I like Over" or "I like Under" than your sarcastic responses
How about learning how to read? Not asking me a question that has already been answered? I have no idea what I like in that game. I haven't even looked at it, and I won't take the time to look at it.
It all depends on the refs. The other night, Jazz game, 58 free throws called.
Last night, Laker game, couldn't get a foul if our lives depended on it.
It's all about what the refs want to do. I have no idea. No more totals for me.
narco , you got to stick to what your good at , which is the totals .. dont let a few bad games change your ways . stick with the refs and the totals please .. bill
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Quote Originally Posted by Narco:
Dunda,
It all depends on the refs. The other night, Jazz game, 58 free throws called.
Last night, Laker game, couldn't get a foul if our lives depended on it.
It's all about what the refs want to do. I have no idea. No more totals for me.
narco , you got to stick to what your good at , which is the totals .. dont let a few bad games change your ways . stick with the refs and the totals please .. bill
narco , you got to stick to what your good at , which is the totals .. dont let a few bad games change your ways . stick with the refs and the totals please .. bill
I'm good at sides too. Listen, the refs have been very erratic and all over the place lately. Something is going on. I'm not going to cap a game for hours and have the refs take it from me. I have no problems with players not showing up, not performing, etc. But, a refs lack of dignity bothers me. What I saw in the Jazz game was remarkable, left a bitter taste in my mouth. People say, "fixed or not fixed, it's still 50/50", well, not really. Heres the thing with fixed or controlled games, you put a lot of time into capping them, but when you lose, you lose because of someone's AGENDA, rather than talent or motivation....I don't like losing to someone's agenda. Guthrie showed me what I've known all along in nba. Refs bet on totals. They have not stopped since Donaghy.
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Quote Originally Posted by snakebill:
narco , you got to stick to what your good at , which is the totals .. dont let a few bad games change your ways . stick with the refs and the totals please .. bill
I'm good at sides too. Listen, the refs have been very erratic and all over the place lately. Something is going on. I'm not going to cap a game for hours and have the refs take it from me. I have no problems with players not showing up, not performing, etc. But, a refs lack of dignity bothers me. What I saw in the Jazz game was remarkable, left a bitter taste in my mouth. People say, "fixed or not fixed, it's still 50/50", well, not really. Heres the thing with fixed or controlled games, you put a lot of time into capping them, but when you lose, you lose because of someone's AGENDA, rather than talent or motivation....I don't like losing to someone's agenda. Guthrie showed me what I've known all along in nba. Refs bet on totals. They have not stopped since Donaghy.
I'm good at sides too. Listen, the refs have been very erratic and all over the place lately. Something is going on. I'm not going to cap a game for hours and have the refs take it from me. I have no problems with players not showing up, not performing, etc. But, a refs lack of dignity bothers me. What I saw in the Jazz game was remarkable, left a bitter taste in my mouth. People say, "fixed or not fixed, it's still 50/50", well, not really. Heres the thing with fixed or controlled games, you put a lot of time into capping them, but when you lose, you lose because of someone's AGENDA, rather than talent or motivation....I don't like losing to someone's agenda. Guthrie showed me what I've known all along in nba. Refs bet on totals. They have not stopped since Donaghy.
WAIT , you said youself that the fix would be on the totals and not the sides .its just a matter of capping the right side of the totals w the right refs ??? no ?? so why not stick w the totals then narco ? please keep the totals part of your capping !!! your good at that . just be more discreet as these forums can get unwanted attention . if you know what i mean . please friend me so we can keep in touch and i will share w you what i have . thanks
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Quote Originally Posted by Narco:
I'm good at sides too. Listen, the refs have been very erratic and all over the place lately. Something is going on. I'm not going to cap a game for hours and have the refs take it from me. I have no problems with players not showing up, not performing, etc. But, a refs lack of dignity bothers me. What I saw in the Jazz game was remarkable, left a bitter taste in my mouth. People say, "fixed or not fixed, it's still 50/50", well, not really. Heres the thing with fixed or controlled games, you put a lot of time into capping them, but when you lose, you lose because of someone's AGENDA, rather than talent or motivation....I don't like losing to someone's agenda. Guthrie showed me what I've known all along in nba. Refs bet on totals. They have not stopped since Donaghy.
WAIT , you said youself that the fix would be on the totals and not the sides .its just a matter of capping the right side of the totals w the right refs ??? no ?? so why not stick w the totals then narco ? please keep the totals part of your capping !!! your good at that . just be more discreet as these forums can get unwanted attention . if you know what i mean . please friend me so we can keep in touch and i will share w you what i have . thanks
How does a ref fix a game UNDER? The only things I can imagine is calling only offensive fouls, and no defensive fouls. But if 2 teams decide to play no defense or shoot incredibly well, there's virtually nothing a ref can do.
But as with the Jazz game, they can always call more fouls to push a game over.
So if you're really worried about fixed games, isn't the answer just to avoid unders?
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How does a ref fix a game UNDER? The only things I can imagine is calling only offensive fouls, and no defensive fouls. But if 2 teams decide to play no defense or shoot incredibly well, there's virtually nothing a ref can do.
But as with the Jazz game, they can always call more fouls to push a game over.
So if you're really worried about fixed games, isn't the answer just to avoid unders?
How does a ref fix a game UNDER? The only things I can imagine is calling only offensive fouls, and no defensive fouls. But if 2 teams decide to play no defense or shoot incredibly well, there's virtually nothing a ref can do.
But as with the Jazz game, they can always call more fouls to push a game over.
So if you're really worried about fixed games, isn't the answer just to avoid unders?
An under is much easier to fix.
Most of the time, without the help of shooting fouls, there are about 15 teams in nba that cannot reach the 90 point margin. There are about 11 teams that need not even be in the league. If it weren't for fouls, most nights, you would see 87-78 type scores. Shooting is at an alltime low in nba. Fthrow shooting is really bad too. All they have to do for an under is to let them play.
A typical nba game has over 17 tv time outs, which ruins offensive rhtym...Let's say a ref likes an under, well, all you need is offensive fouls. But, they know what teams to bet on. I'm sure they won't touch teams like OKC or Denver or Miami for an under, it's other games, like Jazz, Kings, etc. The weekly games they make their money on...
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Quote Originally Posted by composite:
How does a ref fix a game UNDER? The only things I can imagine is calling only offensive fouls, and no defensive fouls. But if 2 teams decide to play no defense or shoot incredibly well, there's virtually nothing a ref can do.
But as with the Jazz game, they can always call more fouls to push a game over.
So if you're really worried about fixed games, isn't the answer just to avoid unders?
An under is much easier to fix.
Most of the time, without the help of shooting fouls, there are about 15 teams in nba that cannot reach the 90 point margin. There are about 11 teams that need not even be in the league. If it weren't for fouls, most nights, you would see 87-78 type scores. Shooting is at an alltime low in nba. Fthrow shooting is really bad too. All they have to do for an under is to let them play.
A typical nba game has over 17 tv time outs, which ruins offensive rhtym...Let's say a ref likes an under, well, all you need is offensive fouls. But, they know what teams to bet on. I'm sure they won't touch teams like OKC or Denver or Miami for an under, it's other games, like Jazz, Kings, etc. The weekly games they make their money on...
Most of the time, without the help of shooting fouls, there are about 15 teams in nba that cannot reach the 90 point margin. There are about 11 teams that need not even be in the league. If it weren't for fouls, most nights, you would see 87-78 type scores. Shooting is at an alltime low in nba. Fthrow shooting is really bad too. All they have to do for an under is to let them play.
A typical nba game has over 17 tv time outs, which ruins offensive rhtym...Let's say a ref likes an under, well, all you need is offensive fouls. But, they know what teams to bet on. I'm sure they won't touch teams like OKC or Denver or Miami for an under, it's other games, like Jazz, Kings, etc. The weekly games they make their money on...
True. But ONE ref can call as many fouls as he wants. It's not like the other guys will overrule. So one ref can influence the over all by himself.
But ALL refs need to swallow the whistle. All it takes is one ref who didn't get the memo to f*** up an under.
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Quote Originally Posted by Narco:
An under is much easier to fix.
Most of the time, without the help of shooting fouls, there are about 15 teams in nba that cannot reach the 90 point margin. There are about 11 teams that need not even be in the league. If it weren't for fouls, most nights, you would see 87-78 type scores. Shooting is at an alltime low in nba. Fthrow shooting is really bad too. All they have to do for an under is to let them play.
A typical nba game has over 17 tv time outs, which ruins offensive rhtym...Let's say a ref likes an under, well, all you need is offensive fouls. But, they know what teams to bet on. I'm sure they won't touch teams like OKC or Denver or Miami for an under, it's other games, like Jazz, Kings, etc. The weekly games they make their money on...
True. But ONE ref can call as many fouls as he wants. It's not like the other guys will overrule. So one ref can influence the over all by himself.
But ALL refs need to swallow the whistle. All it takes is one ref who didn't get the memo to f*** up an under.
True. But ONE ref can call as many fouls as he wants. It's not like the other guys will overrule. So one ref can influence the over all by himself.
But ALL refs need to swallow the whistle. All it takes is one ref who didn't get the memo to f*** up an under.
True, I think the third official is neutral or has the over.
It is so easy to fix an nba game, it's ridiculous. Let's say you need 40 points at the 7 minute mark to get an over.
All I have to do is blow the whistle twice a minute. That puts the team at an easy 24 to 30 free points....If they hit their free throws, no number is too much for an over to hit. They can get there easy. So, I think all three are in on it on an under. But two needed for an over. If one is calling too much, the other two will jump in at halftime and tell him to stop. You need two refs to fix. Donaghy talked about this a lot.
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Quote Originally Posted by composite:
True. But ONE ref can call as many fouls as he wants. It's not like the other guys will overrule. So one ref can influence the over all by himself.
But ALL refs need to swallow the whistle. All it takes is one ref who didn't get the memo to f*** up an under.
True, I think the third official is neutral or has the over.
It is so easy to fix an nba game, it's ridiculous. Let's say you need 40 points at the 7 minute mark to get an over.
All I have to do is blow the whistle twice a minute. That puts the team at an easy 24 to 30 free points....If they hit their free throws, no number is too much for an over to hit. They can get there easy. So, I think all three are in on it on an under. But two needed for an over. If one is calling too much, the other two will jump in at halftime and tell him to stop. You need two refs to fix. Donaghy talked about this a lot.
Seeing all the Denver backers just makes me happy. All the money just for me? OK. I promise sending Josh and Al a nice piece. Let's lose by less than 10 dear Hawks.
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Seeing all the Denver backers just makes me happy. All the money just for me? OK. I promise sending Josh and Al a nice piece. Let's lose by less than 10 dear Hawks.
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