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Quote Originally Posted by GBpack12:

The refs can influence a game no doubt but I've heard ppl say the players are in on it too. One guy on here actuslly told me he thinks the players are either told to "play it out" or to throw the game and that the players have absolutely no control over the outcome. So out of the thousands of players who have played in the NBA, they all know about this and not a single one has come forward. It's beyond stupid and just a lazy way to blame their losses on someone other than themselves
There is absolutely no way the players are told anything about how to impact the outcome of a game. PERIOD.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:

if sports wagering becomes legal across the board, commissioner Silver already stated it wants it to be known the NBA wants its share of % of all money wagered on anything related to and with the NBA...it is no longer as I quote a Kevin Costner movie "For the Love of the Game".... it is for the love of the money.....  and money dictates everything...  in the sports world among others....
Uh, the NBA already gets a huge cut. How do you think they pay those salaries? Just home ticket, beer, food sales?  :>))  I can't prove it, but I feel it in my bones.
I'm sorry man, I don't buy the grand conspiracy. Salaries are paid by what you mentioned, but mostly by TV contracts. It's a pretty big business, I think they can afford the salaries. Do you also feel the weather or cycle of the moon in your bones? (joking)

 
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Quote Originally Posted by NBA_Insider:

Majority of the people in this forum are idiots and it has been like that for years.  Just gotta accept it. Beginning to see that.... tough to accept.



I agree, it's tough to accept the fairy tail you and Props among many others live in. To each their own.
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Quote Originally Posted by NBA_Insider:

There is absolutely no way the players are told anything about how to impact the outcome of a game. PERIOD.



You name it, they're in on it. Very lucrative business, the NBE.
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Quote Originally Posted by NBA_Insider:

Uh, the NBA already gets a huge cut. How do you think they pay those salaries? Just home ticket, beer, food sales?  :>))  I can't prove it, but I feel it in my bones. I'm sorry man, I don't buy the grand conspiracy. Salaries are paid by what you mentioned, but mostly by TV contracts. It's a pretty big business, I think they can afford the salaries. Do you also feel the weather or cycle of the moon in your bones? (joking)



Yeah, I do.   :>)
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Quote Originally Posted by NBA_Insider:

Majority of the people in this forum are idiots and it has been like that for years.  Just gotta accept it. Beginning to see that.... tough to accept.
I agree, it's tough to accept the fairy tail you and Props among many others live in. To each their own.
I don't even understand what fairy tail YOU think is going on? You actually really believe that there is some grand conspiracy and the games are being dictated by betting and everyone is involved? Do you really believe that? Or has some seed been planted and when something at the end of the game happens weirdly (like a player doesn't run the clock out or something?), it's a validation? Or sometimes a series actually does follow a certain "script", that's a validation that there was actually a script? Come on man....

 
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One referee who was making calls to personally gain from it financially does not at all amount to any larger conspiracy. It doesn't happen and never will in a major North American sport. It can't and it won't. There is too much vested interest for there to even have the perception of it being like the WWE.

 
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Nah, I don't believe in any of that sheet! Just messin around today!   
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If there was a conspiracy, everyone would have to be involved. How would it work? Both teams receive the script pre-game and try and play it out accordingly? They have to fake it all along, knowing the final outcome? It's all an act? No player who was ever cut by a team and no longer has ties to the NBA has ever come forward publicly? How does the information get disseminated regarding the script? Verbally? In writing? Who is told and who isn't told?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:

Posted: 36 minutes ago "Quote" Quote Originally Posted by NBA_Insider: If Philly wins tonight people will say after the fact that it was all part of the script. Well they basically have a 50% chance of winning.  Mans what about all the sweeps that happen, even in the NBA Finals. Those must have not followed the script? ...You are acting like the Celtics are the superior team...Games 2 & 3 were toss up games and Philly could be the one up 3-1 right now...Philly has a very good shot at winning tonight...However..don't be surprised if a call or 2 goes the 76ers way.

would you mind defining superior, please? Boston is without their 2 main players and still playing on top level. Phil is a turnover machine team guided by a non-factor PG as Simmons. 

 
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If single person is told -- every player, every coach, every referee, etc., how has nothing ever come out publicly? How do they act the script out? If only a certain few people are told, how would that work? How do you control the people that are not in on it?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by jpot34:

Nah, I don't believe in any of that sheet! Just messin around today!   


I don't believe you, haha.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by NBA_Insider:

If there was a conspiracy, everyone would have to be involved. How would it work? Both teams receive the script pre-game and try and play it out accordingly? They have to fake it all along, knowing the final outcome? It's all an act? No player who was ever cut by a team and no longer has ties to the NBA has ever come forward publicly? How does the information get disseminated regarding the script? Verbally? In writing? Who is told and who isn't told?


I really don't know. Never thought much about it. The NBA is mostly clean.   
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I don't believe you, haha.


Does it really matter? Winning the bet does.
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Corruption proven in pro sports all over the world,but somehow the American NBA is somehow so morally pure with non-greedy individuals running the sport at every level that makes it immune? 

Where there's money involved, there's corruption. Where there are large amounts of money involved, there is significant corruption. The lessons from the history of human affairs are irrefutable.

The only idiots here are those too blind to see.
 
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yes NBA through concessions, tv, tickets, hats, t shirts, etc, ... also commissioner Silver already publicly stated, once sports wagering becomes legal... the NBA wants a % of ALL NBA wagering and its affiliates.... more money.... more money... more money...they have no shame...  they f#ck you at the drive thru.....  
 
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Quote Originally Posted by jpot34:

Quote Originally Posted by NBA_Insider:

If there was a conspiracy, everyone would have to be involved. How would it work? Both teams receive the script pre-game and try and play it out accordingly? They have to fake it all along, knowing the final outcome? It's all an act? No player who was ever cut by a team and no longer has ties to the NBA has ever come forward publicly? How does the information get disseminated regarding the script? Verbally? In writing? Who is told and who isn't told?
I really don't know. Never thought much about it. The NBA is mostly clean.
please one call  here and there could dictate a game easily in all sports.

 
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Insider, so far good money on Bos sp and ml. Line moving Bos way. How does that normally end from your experiences?
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Quote Originally Posted by bigslick24ak:

I really don't know. Never thought much about it. The NBA is mostly clean. please one call  here and there could dictate a game easily in all sports.



I hope to quit discussing this topic. We've beat a dead horse for too long. Let it lie in peace. Winning bets is what truly matters.
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Quote Originally Posted by jpot34:

Insider, so far good money on Bos sp and ml. Line moving Bos way. How does that normally end from your experiences?


See above. ANYONE?????
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Quote Originally Posted by jpot34:

Insider, so far good money on Bos sp and ml. Line moving Bos way. How does that normally end from your experiences?
It could go either way. I actually think the public is very very much on Boston with only slight line movement (PK to -1 Boston). And so based on that I would put some weight towards Philly. Vegas will take a pretty big hit if Boston covers. But they take big hits all the time, and rake it in all the time from game to game. Despite the public betting on Boston, I still give them the slight edge. But like I said, would not be surprised at all if Philly wins.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by jpot34:

Quote Originally Posted by bigslick24ak:

I really don't know. Never thought much about it. The NBA is mostly clean. please one call  here and there could dictate a game easily in all sports.
I hope to quit discussing this topic. We've beat a dead horse for too long. Let it lie in peace. Winning bets is what truly matters.
I agree.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by jpot34:

Insider, so far good money on Bos sp and ml. Line moving Bos way. How does that normally end from your experiences?

What are you fishing for here? Yes the majority of the money is on Boston so they went from Philly -1 to Boston -1. That's the correct movement

 
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Quote Originally Posted by NBA_Insider:

Quote Originally Posted by jpot34:

Insider, so far good money on Bos sp and ml. Line moving Bos way. How does that normally end from your experiences?
It could go either way. I actually think the public is very very much on Boston with only slight line movement (PK to -1 Boston). And so based on that I would put some weight towards Philly. Vegas will take a pretty big hit if Boston covers. But they take big hits all the time, and rake it in all the time from game to game. Despite the public betting on Boston, I still give them the slight edge. But like I said, would not be surprised at all if Philly wins.
Boston has actually been a huge windfall for Vegas this year. Most of the time the public has gone against them, time and time again. And they've continuously covered over and over. However, Cleveland alone has probably evened things out! Massive public betting on Cleveland all year, but one of the worst at covering ALL-TIME. Tonight can go either way man. I put a Unit on Boston but really should have put 0.5U....

 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by NBA_Insider:

It could go either way. I actually think the public is very very much on Boston with only slight line movement (PK to -1 Boston). And so based on that I would put some weight towards Philly. Vegas will take a pretty big hit if Boston covers. But they take big hits all the time, and rake it in all the time from game to game. Despite the public betting on Boston, I still give them the slight edge. But like I said, would not be surprised at all if Philly wins.



Here's what has me thinking twice about laying quid on Philly. If my paid service is correct. Seems as though they are fairly solid with getting $ %'s over the years. The last 6 teams (games) that had the $ %'s on them have not covered the spread. I don't know if it goes 7 straight, or 6 out of 7 after tonight? This may sound worthless, but using these numbers has treat me pretty good over the decades.
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