You're on the same side but because the historical references in the write-up are of no legitimacy to you ( in a write-up I'd say about 5% of the posters here bother to provide), you mock the post. Not the pick! The post only! But you are on the same side, henceforth, regardless of our reasoning we came to the same conclusion, but you feel the need to slander the path of how that pick was obtained.
Nice way to start your day huh?
I try to make my write-ups entertaining as well as informative. Bottom line, I'm here to give a winner ONLY regardless, or all this is meaningless. Once you realize that (and you haven't realized it in many a moon because you've been in my thread for years), you may actually appreciate it like others here.
You're on the same side but because the historical references in the write-up are of no legitimacy to you ( in a write-up I'd say about 5% of the posters here bother to provide), you mock the post. Not the pick! The post only! But you are on the same side, henceforth, regardless of our reasoning we came to the same conclusion, but you feel the need to slander the path of how that pick was obtained.
Nice way to start your day huh?
I try to make my write-ups entertaining as well as informative. Bottom line, I'm here to give a winner ONLY regardless, or all this is meaningless. Once you realize that (and you haven't realized it in many a moon because you've been in my thread for years), you may actually appreciate it like others here.
Melos. Here ya go bud.
2016 Record: 13-3.
Why do I cite a boxing match - correction, no A boxing match but one of the greatest boxing matches of all time - for this an NBA Western Conference Final playoff game in 2016?
Because human psychology is consistent. Our courage, our conviction, our ability to persevere in spite of the most imposing of obstacles has not changed with regard to how our brain works and how our brain propels the body since 1975, or 1575, or 1575 BC.
And when you are dealing with the psychology of a subgroup of extraordinarily elite athletes, the examination of their mindset and their ability to perform becomes even more precise.
We must draw correlations of and through psychology (not causations), to understand how one opponent might react to another, or one team to another.
It was prior to that fight that Ali ruthlessly mocked Frazier with perhaps the most racially charged press conferences of all-time: one in which he pounded a toy gorilla with his fist, the gorilla symbolizing the great Joe Frazier. We know what Ali was saying and what he meant to convey and it was cruel (and unusual).
Normally I'd say such mockery was due for a rightful comeuppance and put my money on Frazier, had I been alive at the time.
But that fight ended how? With Frazier's trainer throwing in the towel in the 15th round. Yes, one of the all-time greats couldn't even answer the bell for the final round.
Even the pre-fight mockery couldn't drive him to get past the 15th and have the judges to call the fight...and in boxing, anything is possible when it goes to the cards.
Ali was so brazenly confident going into that fight, he felt he could beat Frazier even if he ruthlessly slandered him on the way in, that is, he got his punches in before the fight even started.
So how does this relate to the Thunder vs. Warriors?
Well I saw this Ali-like cocky confidence when Durant and Westbrook were asked a question about Steph Curry's defense after the Game 5 loss. Watch it here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSs0bbdDhOA
Folks, this is a 73 win team (now 83 wins with the playoffs); this is a team with the greatest shooter the game has ever seen; these are the defending champs; and here you have two of the best players in the league on the opposing team not worrying one iota about creating bulletin board material for Golden State. They are literally laughing at the notion Steph can adequately guard Westbrook. And Durant's answer is clearly a backhanded compliment. Like Lebron's comments about Curry recently, the answer was more to insult than it was to praise.
And that shows how far these two power kegs of the court have come: they are ready to explode. And we are going to profit from it.
They took out a mega co-favorite to win the title in the Spurs.
And how did they do it? They waited for Game 6 and BOMBED them by 14 in a game that they could have won by 40. Why? Because they KNEW the refs could take over and push this series to 7 and they wouldn't allow it (as the NBA has done countless times historically under David Stern who washed his hands of such notions like Pontius Pilate. The gambler was no fool all the while.).
Because THIS IS OKC's Game 7. As Game 6 was the last round too. You CANNOT go back to San Antonio for a Game 7. You CANNOT go back to Golden State for a Game 7.
You need to get the job done RIGHT NOW. So you get all the Game 7 intensity on your home court for all the marbles in a Game 6. There are reasons why a team hasn't come back from a 3-1 deficit in conference finals in nearly 33 years. It is EXTREMELY hard to do and this is the game that is EXTREMELY hard to win, even for a team like Golden State.
And psychologically, I see a team that is ready to do it. I've said this before: you get PEAK KD; you get PEAK Westbrook; you get a mature and confident workmanlike Adams; you get Roberson who is shooting nearly 60% from 3 in the series; you get an always solid Ibaka. You get a truckload of height. That's quite a bit of 'gets'. You do deal with a bench that can give you more but so many minutes will be eaten up by the starting 5 in this game it will matter less.
And on the other side of the ball? Where are the dominant Warriors? Is this the Warrior team you watched all year? You know damn well it is not. And what is the reason? The dagger 3's just aren't falling right now for Golden State. 37%, 30%, 30% from 3 in the past 3, two of which were blowout losses. This is a team that shot 41% from 3 all year. And when they get hot, they can shoot 50%+ from 3.
And Curry? Is he injured or isn't he? It doesn't matter. He will pile up the points because he always has the ball but his shooting percentages in the series are 42% and 37%(3's) compared to 50% and 45%(3's) for his season averages.
And all those gargantuan, fall off your seat three's (like the one he hit in OT against OKC to win in the regular season)...long gone like dust in the wind. *Poof*. He doesn't even look like he WANTS to take those shots. And when he does lauch some moonshots some barely scrape rim.
And THOSE are the shots that struck fear in opponents. But no more.
Those shots are not falling. 3, 3, 3, 3: They are not falling with the same rapid fire consistency these past 3 games. Steph is 7-29 from 3 in the last 3.
And Klay has been worse: 41% and 29%!(3's) compared to season averages of 47% and 42%. The averages they had during the year won them SEVENTY THREE games. There is a reason this game is +2.5 Golden State folks...
73? There's a 7 and a 3 I'd like to reference; they may not win 3 against OKC in a 7 game series.
Don't even get me started on Green who is so far off his regular season self, he may be a Javale McGee in a Draymond Green jersey.
This is not the same team.
Why ask KD about it? What should his response be?
To think a team that won 73 games needs motivation is pretty funny.
I think OKC wins also, he wont get much credit because OKC has 2 of top 5 players in the league but Donovan's decision to play big and not try to match GS style is the difference.
Melos. Here ya go bud.
2016 Record: 13-3.
Why do I cite a boxing match - correction, no A boxing match but one of the greatest boxing matches of all time - for this an NBA Western Conference Final playoff game in 2016?
Because human psychology is consistent. Our courage, our conviction, our ability to persevere in spite of the most imposing of obstacles has not changed with regard to how our brain works and how our brain propels the body since 1975, or 1575, or 1575 BC.
And when you are dealing with the psychology of a subgroup of extraordinarily elite athletes, the examination of their mindset and their ability to perform becomes even more precise.
We must draw correlations of and through psychology (not causations), to understand how one opponent might react to another, or one team to another.
It was prior to that fight that Ali ruthlessly mocked Frazier with perhaps the most racially charged press conferences of all-time: one in which he pounded a toy gorilla with his fist, the gorilla symbolizing the great Joe Frazier. We know what Ali was saying and what he meant to convey and it was cruel (and unusual).
Normally I'd say such mockery was due for a rightful comeuppance and put my money on Frazier, had I been alive at the time.
But that fight ended how? With Frazier's trainer throwing in the towel in the 15th round. Yes, one of the all-time greats couldn't even answer the bell for the final round.
Even the pre-fight mockery couldn't drive him to get past the 15th and have the judges to call the fight...and in boxing, anything is possible when it goes to the cards.
Ali was so brazenly confident going into that fight, he felt he could beat Frazier even if he ruthlessly slandered him on the way in, that is, he got his punches in before the fight even started.
So how does this relate to the Thunder vs. Warriors?
Well I saw this Ali-like cocky confidence when Durant and Westbrook were asked a question about Steph Curry's defense after the Game 5 loss. Watch it here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSs0bbdDhOA
Folks, this is a 73 win team (now 83 wins with the playoffs); this is a team with the greatest shooter the game has ever seen; these are the defending champs; and here you have two of the best players in the league on the opposing team not worrying one iota about creating bulletin board material for Golden State. They are literally laughing at the notion Steph can adequately guard Westbrook. And Durant's answer is clearly a backhanded compliment. Like Lebron's comments about Curry recently, the answer was more to insult than it was to praise.
And that shows how far these two power kegs of the court have come: they are ready to explode. And we are going to profit from it.
They took out a mega co-favorite to win the title in the Spurs.
And how did they do it? They waited for Game 6 and BOMBED them by 14 in a game that they could have won by 40. Why? Because they KNEW the refs could take over and push this series to 7 and they wouldn't allow it (as the NBA has done countless times historically under David Stern who washed his hands of such notions like Pontius Pilate. The gambler was no fool all the while.).
Because THIS IS OKC's Game 7. As Game 6 was the last round too. You CANNOT go back to San Antonio for a Game 7. You CANNOT go back to Golden State for a Game 7.
You need to get the job done RIGHT NOW. So you get all the Game 7 intensity on your home court for all the marbles in a Game 6. There are reasons why a team hasn't come back from a 3-1 deficit in conference finals in nearly 33 years. It is EXTREMELY hard to do and this is the game that is EXTREMELY hard to win, even for a team like Golden State.
And psychologically, I see a team that is ready to do it. I've said this before: you get PEAK KD; you get PEAK Westbrook; you get a mature and confident workmanlike Adams; you get Roberson who is shooting nearly 60% from 3 in the series; you get an always solid Ibaka. You get a truckload of height. That's quite a bit of 'gets'. You do deal with a bench that can give you more but so many minutes will be eaten up by the starting 5 in this game it will matter less.
And on the other side of the ball? Where are the dominant Warriors? Is this the Warrior team you watched all year? You know damn well it is not. And what is the reason? The dagger 3's just aren't falling right now for Golden State. 37%, 30%, 30% from 3 in the past 3, two of which were blowout losses. This is a team that shot 41% from 3 all year. And when they get hot, they can shoot 50%+ from 3.
And Curry? Is he injured or isn't he? It doesn't matter. He will pile up the points because he always has the ball but his shooting percentages in the series are 42% and 37%(3's) compared to 50% and 45%(3's) for his season averages.
And all those gargantuan, fall off your seat three's (like the one he hit in OT against OKC to win in the regular season)...long gone like dust in the wind. *Poof*. He doesn't even look like he WANTS to take those shots. And when he does lauch some moonshots some barely scrape rim.
And THOSE are the shots that struck fear in opponents. But no more.
Those shots are not falling. 3, 3, 3, 3: They are not falling with the same rapid fire consistency these past 3 games. Steph is 7-29 from 3 in the last 3.
And Klay has been worse: 41% and 29%!(3's) compared to season averages of 47% and 42%. The averages they had during the year won them SEVENTY THREE games. There is a reason this game is +2.5 Golden State folks...
73? There's a 7 and a 3 I'd like to reference; they may not win 3 against OKC in a 7 game series.
Don't even get me started on Green who is so far off his regular season self, he may be a Javale McGee in a Draymond Green jersey.
This is not the same team.
Why ask KD about it? What should his response be?
To think a team that won 73 games needs motivation is pretty funny.
I think OKC wins also, he wont get much credit because OKC has 2 of top 5 players in the league but Donovan's decision to play big and not try to match GS style is the difference.
impotent fury...nice
Tony - Nine of TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY TWO teams have won after being down 3-1. Does this Thunder team look like the tenth out of 233? Because heading back to GS, it likely will be UNLESS OKC closes it out tonight which they will strive to do with maximum effort! THAT is what you are betting against and your are only getting 2.5 pts as a cushion.
impotent fury...nice
Tony - Nine of TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY TWO teams have won after being down 3-1. Does this Thunder team look like the tenth out of 233? Because heading back to GS, it likely will be UNLESS OKC closes it out tonight which they will strive to do with maximum effort! THAT is what you are betting against and your are only getting 2.5 pts as a cushion.
Well saying everything and saying nothing is quite subjective from our respective perspectives now isn't it
Well saying everything and saying nothing is quite subjective from our respective perspectives now isn't it
No money in authorship Nilshu!
FAR more money to be made capping!!! Which clearly, the members of this site understand, including yourself!
No money in authorship Nilshu!
FAR more money to be made capping!!! Which clearly, the members of this site understand, including yourself!
A solid contribution to the thread BB and I have many retorts. But I will withhold them for the moments and extract one sentence from your contribution for the good of this forum:
If I was betting, which I'm not, you couldn't pay me to bet the Warriors tonight.
Now, and this I emphasize, BB is the NUMBER ONE Warrior capper on this site and knows them better than anyone else. You may think of him as a homer, but he is a realist when it comes to his wallet.
This sentence may not be a full-fledged endorsement of OKC, but it certainly is on it's way there.
LC, who knows the Thunder better than anyone else here, does not have a post in the main on this game (or at least I think he doesn't), but he is not hedging his Thunder future bets for mountains of cash tonight which is by default, supporting OKC.
Me? Decades of NBA capping.
That's a pretty sizable three-headed monster all on the same side, both directly or indirectly now isn't it.
That's for the casual observer if my OP wasn't to their liking.
A solid contribution to the thread BB and I have many retorts. But I will withhold them for the moments and extract one sentence from your contribution for the good of this forum:
If I was betting, which I'm not, you couldn't pay me to bet the Warriors tonight.
Now, and this I emphasize, BB is the NUMBER ONE Warrior capper on this site and knows them better than anyone else. You may think of him as a homer, but he is a realist when it comes to his wallet.
This sentence may not be a full-fledged endorsement of OKC, but it certainly is on it's way there.
LC, who knows the Thunder better than anyone else here, does not have a post in the main on this game (or at least I think he doesn't), but he is not hedging his Thunder future bets for mountains of cash tonight which is by default, supporting OKC.
Me? Decades of NBA capping.
That's a pretty sizable three-headed monster all on the same side, both directly or indirectly now isn't it.
That's for the casual observer if my OP wasn't to their liking.
The quotes are lip-service but they express a minutiae of fear, something the Warriors haven't done all year...Why? Because their backs aren't against the wall...until now. That is why their quotes are salient.
The quotes are lip-service but they express a minutiae of fear, something the Warriors haven't done all year...Why? Because their backs aren't against the wall...until now. That is why their quotes are salient.
They are scared because it's the Warriors. And they have good reason to be scared. But if they watched the Warriors in this series with a capping lens and not a fan-based lens (which continually fears the great teams without gargantuan spreads), they wouldn't have so much fear.
They are scared because it's the Warriors. And they have good reason to be scared. But if they watched the Warriors in this series with a capping lens and not a fan-based lens (which continually fears the great teams without gargantuan spreads), they wouldn't have so much fear.
Come on Wish, NOTHING in the other press conferences compared to what he said about Frazier prior to Manila.
He not only attacked Frazier's identity, he attacked skin color as a darker-skinned black man, bolstering the prejudiced notion that his lighter black skin was superior, both in ring and out ! That was unprecedented and quite ugly for it's time.
And after all that, he still won the fight (although did attest afterword it was the closest he came to death)!
Come on Wish, NOTHING in the other press conferences compared to what he said about Frazier prior to Manila.
He not only attacked Frazier's identity, he attacked skin color as a darker-skinned black man, bolstering the prejudiced notion that his lighter black skin was superior, both in ring and out ! That was unprecedented and quite ugly for it's time.
And after all that, he still won the fight (although did attest afterword it was the closest he came to death)!
Very true. Hopefully, tons of futures bets on the odds on favorite all year go up in smoke tonight.
Very true. Hopefully, tons of futures bets on the odds on favorite all year go up in smoke tonight.
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