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Whom do you take? !
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Jordan's Bulls or Curry's Golde State Warriors ??!!!
Jordan and Pippen
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Cavs have shown signs of suffocating GS and forcing more turnovers in the last 2 games but they've failed to capitalise and also can't sustain any form of solid defense. Bulls would be a lot more ruthless, it'd be a great series to watch. Jordan would be putting up record numbers. Dennis Rodman would get Draymond Green rattled but then Rodman would probably get rattles too haha.
How many do you think Jordan would actually average?
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Pippin most overrated player to ever play. A hall of farmer - sure (and prob only cause you were the perfect robin on batman's team). But top 50 all-time, you've gotta be kidding me... I cringe when he says things like Lebron could be better than michael - listen moron, the only reason you're anything more than an all-star is one Michael Jeffrey Jordan and oh yeah, also because of Phil Jackson.... case and point when he moved to blazers...
But ManCity, KD Steph > MJ+Pip isn't the point and I would actuallly argue that MJ+Pip could be the right 2 because you give MJ another all-star and I'd never bet against that... Rather, from top to bottom the warriors are deeper and more talented... who else did the pulls have - Steve Kerr, over the hill Dennis rodman... Jed bushler..... yeah give me Dray, klay, iggy, sean Livingston to round out my roster
These little debates are fun eh
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Quote Originally Posted by DStaXX:
Vegas had Warriors as -360 favorites against them.
Vegas had Warriors as -360 favorites against them.
I heard that on ESPN too.
https://thebiglead.com/2017/06/05/2017-warriors-1996-bulls/
The hypothetical line is GSW -6.5 on a neutral court.
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the Worm > Draymond(better rebounder, drama queen)
Kerr > Curry(Curry is more talented but Kerr was more clutch in Finals)
Longley > Pachulia(the better foreigner)
Pippen > Klay(better defender/sidekick, more complete offensive player)
Jordan > Durant(better scorer)
Kukoc > Iguodala(better sixth man)
Sip on that plus money honey!
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Quote Originally Posted by Digitalkarma:
the Worm > Draymond(better rebounder, drama queen)
the Worm > Draymond(better rebounder, drama queen)
Kerr > Curry(Curry is more talented but Kerr was more clutch in Finals)
Longley > Pachulia(the better foreigner)
Pippen > Klay(better defender/sidekick, more complete offensive player)
Jordan > Durant(better scorer)
Kukoc > Iguodala(better sixth man)
did you just say Steve Kerr > Steph Curry and an over the hill the worm > Dray - first of all, full stop, erroneous. Second, your argument is based on a single trait the bulls player had which he excelled at... Common DK common... Any btw, I'm a die hard bulls and MJ fan.... But credit where credit is due
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Quote Originally Posted by DStaXX:
Vegas had Warriors as -360 favorites against them.
Vegas had Warriors as -360 favorites against them.
Yep, and there's a reason for that. I watched all of the Bulls championship teams and while the 96 team was their best, it wasn't as good as this Warriors team. Not only would the Warriors win, I don't even think it would be close.
Curry > Harper
Klay < Jordan
Durant > Pippen
Draymond > Rodman
Zaza/Javale/West > Longley/Wennington/Edwards
The only match up where the Bulls have the edge is MJ over Klay and I think Klay would do a reasonably good job defending him. Not saying MJ couldn't score 30 but when he went against Joe Dumars or Mitch Richmond, he wasn't Superman.
Klay is a GREAT 2-way guard and he's longer than MJ so don't go thinking MJ would score 40. He might "only" score 25.
None of the other Bulls have the advantage vs the Warriors.
Harper was a good defender but he only scored 7 points/game.
Pippen was a great 2-way player but vs Durant? Nope. 6'7 Pippen loses to 6'11 Durant and Durant is much more skilled offensively.
Rodman was a great defender and rebounder but Draymond is the best defender in the league and he rebounds AND SCORES inside/outside. Rodman averaged 5 points/game.
The Warrior centers, especially Javale and West, are much more athletic than the Bulls centers.
MJ averaged 30 points/game that season.
Pippen averaged 19.
Kukoc averaged 13 off the bench.
Nobody else scored in double figures.
Speaking of the bench, the Warriors have Livingston, Iggy, and Ian Clark who are all very good and the Bulls had Kukoc, Kerr, and an old John Salley who averaged 2 points/game.
You think that team would keep up with the Warriors on the scoreboard???
Warriors 105
Bulls 85
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This year's Cavs team would work the 96 bulls teams. People are delusional if they think players off elite team in 96 are better than elite teams/players now
Kyrie>>>Harper
Smith<<<<<my
Lebron>>pippen
Love>>>>Rodman
Thompson >longley
Cavs bench>>bulls bench
Other then the handful of mulitgenerational players back then the average /good player is so much better now
Kyrie>>>Harper
Smith<<<<<my
Lebron>>pippen
Love>>>>Rodman
Thompson >longley
Cavs bench>>bulls bench
Other then the handful of mulitgenerational players back then the average /good player is so much better now
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I hate curry and the warriors but to even co.pare these 2 teams is a joke. Durant would be the most unstoppable player on the floor. Mj is a BETTER all time player but klay would have much more success on d vs mj than pippen on Durant. And half the pg's in league are better than any pg from that era. Think about Steve Kerr or stockton guarding Kyrie, curry, westbrook, or wall, or harden,or lilliard,
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Quote Originally Posted by Messy:
Jordan and the Bulls were 6-0 in the Finals. With Curry and the Warriors already blowing one last year, the Bulls win, unless Golden State can win 5 more and go 7-1.
Jordan and the Bulls were 6-0 in the Finals. With Curry and the Warriors already blowing one last year, the Bulls win, unless Golden State can win 5 more and go 7-1.
When someone basis greatness purely on titles it automatically tells me they know they are not better. Who cares what record was he played in the perfect time. Against marginal teams......all the elite players of generation before that mj could not beat were old and tired.
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Quote Originally Posted by lonniejoshua16:
When someone basis greatness purely on titles it automatically tells me they know they are not better. Who cares what record was he played in the perfect time. Against marginal teams......all the elite players of generation before that mj could not beat were old and tired.
When someone basis greatness purely on titles it automatically tells me they know they are not better. Who cares what record was he played in the perfect time. Against marginal teams......all the elite players of generation before that mj could not beat were old and tired.
You are obviously too young to remember MVPs Charles Barkley and Karl Malone or the Detroit Pistons Bad Boys. Magic Johnson was still a great player in '91, as were Clyde Drexler, Shawn Kemp, Gary Payton, Malone & Stockton. Those Jazz teams won 60+ games, as did Barkley's Suns and the Sonics won 64 in '96. The Cavs won 51 this year. The Warriors have a much easier road to the title than the Bulls did.
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