@CappaDon
Wasn't you... was MacWestie (post #17)
Not sure why it quoted it as you.
Theyre not?
Green doesnt kick lebron in the nuts like a dumb ass and get his ass suspended and Durant and Klay dont get injured against the Raptors and they won 6 titles
Also they won 73 games and broke the record son
Theyre not?
Green doesnt kick lebron in the nuts like a dumb ass and get his ass suspended and Durant and Klay dont get injured against the Raptors and they won 6 titles
Also they won 73 games and broke the record son
Horrifying idea. Warriors can easily run these frauds out the building. Dont underestimate the Dubs, they are a dynasty for a reason.
Horrifying idea. Warriors can easily run these frauds out the building. Dont underestimate the Dubs, they are a dynasty for a reason.
Dude, I'm on your side with the series bet... but gimme a break with this nonsense!
They broke that record and then didn't win the title... that record meant NOTHING, and even every one of the GS players has said that.
They need to win AT LEAST 6 titles before they can then be compared to the Bulls, who held the previous record but finished the job, and also had the consensus greatest player of all time, winning 6 titles in 8 seasons.
Float back down to reality with us...
Dude, I'm on your side with the series bet... but gimme a break with this nonsense!
They broke that record and then didn't win the title... that record meant NOTHING, and even every one of the GS players has said that.
They need to win AT LEAST 6 titles before they can then be compared to the Bulls, who held the previous record but finished the job, and also had the consensus greatest player of all time, winning 6 titles in 8 seasons.
Float back down to reality with us...
Alright if theres one better dynasty it would be those Bulls... but honestly I think if those 2 teams matched up the Dubs would run circles around the Bulls, and the Vegas oddsmakers agree with me.
Alright if theres one better dynasty it would be those Bulls... but honestly I think if those 2 teams matched up the Dubs would run circles around the Bulls, and the Vegas oddsmakers agree with me.
The warriors are a dynasty yes. Do I think they will get embarrassed like Shaq and Kobe did against the pistons? No but Dont talk to me about sacramentos defense when Golden State hasnt been known to stop anyone either without Wiggins. If we want to talk about stats lets also acknowledge the Kings are the best clutch team in the league late in games and have a top 10 offense as well. I dont think wiggins coming back is going to slow the kings down. We just watched this offense for 82 games. In the end this is going to be high scoring series regardless is wiggins is there or not
As far as the kings not being able to win in SF?? a 3 hour bus ride away? I dont know how well kings fans travel. They are so close mileage wise I feel there will be warriors fans in both arenas but The warriors were down by double digits at halftime in a ton of games this year at home. I think we take for granted how great they are at coming back to win those games and just expect it. Lets not forget Mike Brown (now coach of the year) and ex assistant for Steve Kerr is on the other side now. I would think he knows how to react to the second half warriors cheese. If you think the warriors are going to get away with being down big at halftime and walking the kings down in the second half then I dont know what to tell you. Just wait and see it not happen Im on SAC HUGE.
This is a gift. Better team at + odds not because the books think the warriors are better but because of pure liability. Lets just Imagine if the warriors were underdogs like they really should be? Warriors backers are going to be them anyways so it makes sense why the books would make them favorites. This is why they are going to clean up in this series. Warriors will lose in 6 or 7 games
The warriors are a dynasty yes. Do I think they will get embarrassed like Shaq and Kobe did against the pistons? No but Dont talk to me about sacramentos defense when Golden State hasnt been known to stop anyone either without Wiggins. If we want to talk about stats lets also acknowledge the Kings are the best clutch team in the league late in games and have a top 10 offense as well. I dont think wiggins coming back is going to slow the kings down. We just watched this offense for 82 games. In the end this is going to be high scoring series regardless is wiggins is there or not
As far as the kings not being able to win in SF?? a 3 hour bus ride away? I dont know how well kings fans travel. They are so close mileage wise I feel there will be warriors fans in both arenas but The warriors were down by double digits at halftime in a ton of games this year at home. I think we take for granted how great they are at coming back to win those games and just expect it. Lets not forget Mike Brown (now coach of the year) and ex assistant for Steve Kerr is on the other side now. I would think he knows how to react to the second half warriors cheese. If you think the warriors are going to get away with being down big at halftime and walking the kings down in the second half then I dont know what to tell you. Just wait and see it not happen Im on SAC HUGE.
This is a gift. Better team at + odds not because the books think the warriors are better but because of pure liability. Lets just Imagine if the warriors were underdogs like they really should be? Warriors backers are going to be them anyways so it makes sense why the books would make them favorites. This is why they are going to clean up in this series. Warriors will lose in 6 or 7 games
Why aren't we talking about grizzlies vs lakers? It is very obvious Warriors are winning this series and any Sac money being gambled is dead money
Why aren't we talking about grizzlies vs lakers? It is very obvious Warriors are winning this series and any Sac money being gambled is dead money
Im not really a box score guy as I did watch this game but go back to the last time the kings played the warriors and everyone played. Sabonis 22 rebounds, Monk actually had a bad game and the kings still won. Fox very efficent 22 points. K. Murray 21 points 5-9 from three. The kings are just balanced mean while the game before this one which was less than a week prior the kings only lost by 3 after being up at halftime by 12!!! So yes another second half warriors comeback and we ended up seeing that happen at least 10 more times in the season with GS down double digits at home and still coming back to win the game against good and bad teams. Curry had 47 points in that comeback. Andrew Wiggins had 25 (who hasnt played in 2 months) I am very confused why everyone is penciling in the warriors to win this series so easily
Im not really a box score guy as I did watch this game but go back to the last time the kings played the warriors and everyone played. Sabonis 22 rebounds, Monk actually had a bad game and the kings still won. Fox very efficent 22 points. K. Murray 21 points 5-9 from three. The kings are just balanced mean while the game before this one which was less than a week prior the kings only lost by 3 after being up at halftime by 12!!! So yes another second half warriors comeback and we ended up seeing that happen at least 10 more times in the season with GS down double digits at home and still coming back to win the game against good and bad teams. Curry had 47 points in that comeback. Andrew Wiggins had 25 (who hasnt played in 2 months) I am very confused why everyone is penciling in the warriors to win this series so easily
@TERP_
Kings weren't just top 10 in offense, they were #1 overall while also having the #1 road record in the West. This series is much closer than delusional Warriors fans think
@TERP_
Kings weren't just top 10 in offense, they were #1 overall while also having the #1 road record in the West. This series is much closer than delusional Warriors fans think
Thanks for the confirmation. I almost typed that but wasnt sure where they ended up at the end of the season stat wise . Kings can just flat out score it
Thanks for the confirmation. I almost typed that but wasnt sure where they ended up at the end of the season stat wise . Kings can just flat out score it
Line should be at least -500. Not a chance Queens win this series. I hope they win game 1 so we’ll get GS around-150 but if they lose GS jumps to -500 before game 2.
Line should be at least -500. Not a chance Queens win this series. I hope they win game 1 so we’ll get GS around-150 but if they lose GS jumps to -500 before game 2.
No it isn't, and the Warriors defense is the reason it's not gonna be close!
No it isn't, and the Warriors defense is the reason it's not gonna be close!
Because a lot of ppl are dumber than shit and actually think Sac is gonna win, believe it for not
Were trying to talk sense into these lunatics, why we are bothering well that is indeed a solid question
Because a lot of ppl are dumber than shit and actually think Sac is gonna win, believe it for not
Were trying to talk sense into these lunatics, why we are bothering well that is indeed a solid question
There is way more people that think the Warriors are winning and you have really nothing but "championship pride / strength in numbers" quotes to throw back as ammo This series is just like the recent 2021 Suns/Lakers first round. Suns were the #2 seed and lakers were the #7 seed but for some reason the suns were +155 series price Casuals lined right up to bet the lakers and we all know what happened. Suns the more consistent team over 82 games ended up making the finals. It didnt matter what Lebron had to show as legacy. It didnt matter that the lakers won the previous year. The only reason Lakers were favored is because of people who dont know basketball and bet purely because of the names on the back of the jersey.
This Series is arguably MORE similar to the 2015 #3 seed Clippers/ #6 seed Spurs Spurs Series though. The Spurs had Coach Pop, the Dynasty thing going (Duncan, Parker, Kawhi, Ginobili) just like the warriors do now. All the big names who have been there throughout the majority of the dynasty.... The Clippers were +160 to win the series and guess who won? The clippers.
Since 2005 there has been only 2 teams as a 2 seed or better and lost to a lower seed and that was the 2006 #6 seed Clippers who beat the #3 seed Nuggets (the team with Melo and the second best nugget was Andre Miller) and the 2014 #3 seed Raptors (who were cursed anyways in the playoffs with lowry and DeRozan) So you see the history just isnt there to act like people are morons for betting on Sacramento.
There is way more people that think the Warriors are winning and you have really nothing but "championship pride / strength in numbers" quotes to throw back as ammo This series is just like the recent 2021 Suns/Lakers first round. Suns were the #2 seed and lakers were the #7 seed but for some reason the suns were +155 series price Casuals lined right up to bet the lakers and we all know what happened. Suns the more consistent team over 82 games ended up making the finals. It didnt matter what Lebron had to show as legacy. It didnt matter that the lakers won the previous year. The only reason Lakers were favored is because of people who dont know basketball and bet purely because of the names on the back of the jersey.
This Series is arguably MORE similar to the 2015 #3 seed Clippers/ #6 seed Spurs Spurs Series though. The Spurs had Coach Pop, the Dynasty thing going (Duncan, Parker, Kawhi, Ginobili) just like the warriors do now. All the big names who have been there throughout the majority of the dynasty.... The Clippers were +160 to win the series and guess who won? The clippers.
Since 2005 there has been only 2 teams as a 2 seed or better and lost to a lower seed and that was the 2006 #6 seed Clippers who beat the #3 seed Nuggets (the team with Melo and the second best nugget was Andre Miller) and the 2014 #3 seed Raptors (who were cursed anyways in the playoffs with lowry and DeRozan) So you see the history just isnt there to act like people are morons for betting on Sacramento.
@TERP_
History isn't going to help you in this series. There is ONE simple question: what has changed since last year? Last year, the best 5-man unit in the NBA was the Warriors (Looney, Dray, Wiggins, Klay and Steph). The Warriors won the title because when that unit was on the floor, they were the best, and it didn't matter who they were playing against. Those same 5 guys will be on the floor for the Warriors. So, you're either saying that those guys aren't as good as they were last year (for some reason), or that the Warriors bench is so much worse than last year, that it doesn't matter who the starters are.
But I'm here to tell you... that 5-man unit, when they played together this year, were BY FAR the most dominant unit in the NBA, with a net-rating of +22.9, which was about 5 points better than the 2nd best 5-man unit (the Bucks). The Warriors starters had the #1 offensive rating, and #2 defensive rating of any unit in the NBA.
Their big problem was that they didn't play a lot of games together, because of injuries and the Wiggins situation. But starting in game 1, they'll all be out there again, and they are still the gold standard in the NBA.
The salient point is this... I am ALWAYS an advocate of betting on the team with the best players, and the Warriors have the best players, with the most experience, the most confidence, and the highest collective basketball IQ of any team, by a landslide. They also have the best or 2nd best player in the NBA (toss up with Giannis).
The people betting on the Warriors (at least in my case) are not betting on a jersey. I am betting on what I have seen and understood about the NBA, having watched it religiously for over 40 years. Betting on a 1st time NBA team with the worst defense in the league, vs. a bonafide dynasty, who can easily match the Kings offense, but also have a MUCH MUCH better defense... you're out of your mind, and you are out of your element!
Sacto's only chance is injuries. In all likelihood, that is the only way any team in the West is knocking them off.
@TERP_
History isn't going to help you in this series. There is ONE simple question: what has changed since last year? Last year, the best 5-man unit in the NBA was the Warriors (Looney, Dray, Wiggins, Klay and Steph). The Warriors won the title because when that unit was on the floor, they were the best, and it didn't matter who they were playing against. Those same 5 guys will be on the floor for the Warriors. So, you're either saying that those guys aren't as good as they were last year (for some reason), or that the Warriors bench is so much worse than last year, that it doesn't matter who the starters are.
But I'm here to tell you... that 5-man unit, when they played together this year, were BY FAR the most dominant unit in the NBA, with a net-rating of +22.9, which was about 5 points better than the 2nd best 5-man unit (the Bucks). The Warriors starters had the #1 offensive rating, and #2 defensive rating of any unit in the NBA.
Their big problem was that they didn't play a lot of games together, because of injuries and the Wiggins situation. But starting in game 1, they'll all be out there again, and they are still the gold standard in the NBA.
The salient point is this... I am ALWAYS an advocate of betting on the team with the best players, and the Warriors have the best players, with the most experience, the most confidence, and the highest collective basketball IQ of any team, by a landslide. They also have the best or 2nd best player in the NBA (toss up with Giannis).
The people betting on the Warriors (at least in my case) are not betting on a jersey. I am betting on what I have seen and understood about the NBA, having watched it religiously for over 40 years. Betting on a 1st time NBA team with the worst defense in the league, vs. a bonafide dynasty, who can easily match the Kings offense, but also have a MUCH MUCH better defense... you're out of your mind, and you are out of your element!
Sacto's only chance is injuries. In all likelihood, that is the only way any team in the West is knocking them off.
Meant to say 1st time playoff team.
Meant to say 1st time playoff team.
One more footnote...... no, it isn't anything like that series!
One more footnote...... no, it isn't anything like that series!
@Duderonomy
Nobody is arguing about what GS did last year. Its now 2023. Im going off of what I am seeing THIS year. I don't need history to save me because it speaks for itself. You are more than welcome to ride the warriors until the wheels fall off but to act like this is some pushover opponent after what we have seen this year from GS is insane. Wiggins will be back but why would I bet on him being 2022 NBA finals Andrew Wiggins when I havent seen this guy play in 2 months. He wasnt even sharp the last time he did play. Its not like the warriors were rolling along when they had wiggins and only slowed down because of his absence. Like I said in my post above all you really have is what the warriors have done in the past. You have really no ammo to show they can flip the light switch. I really dont get why warriors fans want to keep bringing up defense like the warriors have the personal to stop the kings. The grizzlies put up 131 points without Ja Morant on the warriors. The warriors needed a 40 point quarter just to beat the tanking spurs who were actually winning late in the last game they played. I dont trust the warriors at all!
This team went almost 2 months without winning a game on the road!!!!! And even a ton of games at home they were lucky to come out with W's after being down by double digits. The first time playoff angle is weak also. Sabonis has been in the playoffs. Fox hasnt yet but lets not act like he played at some D3 school in college. Hes played at the highest level at every level. This whole angle that warriors (AND LAKERS) backers want to think nobody else can cook until Steph and Lebron retire is ridiculous. I get the warriors have won 22 out of 25 or whatever the number is series with their main core healthy. BUT there is chinks in the armor. Whether it be Wiggins who may be rusty, Whether its green punching poole. I dont care what the excuse will be when they finally lose after looking nothing like what we saw a year ago the entire season.
Also on your final footnote I did give another example that the clippers/spurs series is arguably more similar but the lakers/suns series comes close. Lebron and his 4 championships, they were the defending champions. Basically limped through the season and once they made the playoffs, suddenly they were some crazy "Darkhorse" . Yeah we saw how that ended.
@Duderonomy
Nobody is arguing about what GS did last year. Its now 2023. Im going off of what I am seeing THIS year. I don't need history to save me because it speaks for itself. You are more than welcome to ride the warriors until the wheels fall off but to act like this is some pushover opponent after what we have seen this year from GS is insane. Wiggins will be back but why would I bet on him being 2022 NBA finals Andrew Wiggins when I havent seen this guy play in 2 months. He wasnt even sharp the last time he did play. Its not like the warriors were rolling along when they had wiggins and only slowed down because of his absence. Like I said in my post above all you really have is what the warriors have done in the past. You have really no ammo to show they can flip the light switch. I really dont get why warriors fans want to keep bringing up defense like the warriors have the personal to stop the kings. The grizzlies put up 131 points without Ja Morant on the warriors. The warriors needed a 40 point quarter just to beat the tanking spurs who were actually winning late in the last game they played. I dont trust the warriors at all!
This team went almost 2 months without winning a game on the road!!!!! And even a ton of games at home they were lucky to come out with W's after being down by double digits. The first time playoff angle is weak also. Sabonis has been in the playoffs. Fox hasnt yet but lets not act like he played at some D3 school in college. Hes played at the highest level at every level. This whole angle that warriors (AND LAKERS) backers want to think nobody else can cook until Steph and Lebron retire is ridiculous. I get the warriors have won 22 out of 25 or whatever the number is series with their main core healthy. BUT there is chinks in the armor. Whether it be Wiggins who may be rusty, Whether its green punching poole. I dont care what the excuse will be when they finally lose after looking nothing like what we saw a year ago the entire season.
Also on your final footnote I did give another example that the clippers/spurs series is arguably more similar but the lakers/suns series comes close. Lebron and his 4 championships, they were the defending champions. Basically limped through the season and once they made the playoffs, suddenly they were some crazy "Darkhorse" . Yeah we saw how that ended.
You mean..... in the regular season?
That's all I need to know about your analysis! As I always say... watch and (hopefully) learn! The Warriors are still the gold standard in the NBA, because they still have the same players they had when they were the gold standard last year. All 5 of those guys are still playing at the same level (or better) than last year. I tried to explain this to you, but you are too thick!
You mean..... in the regular season?
That's all I need to know about your analysis! As I always say... watch and (hopefully) learn! The Warriors are still the gold standard in the NBA, because they still have the same players they had when they were the gold standard last year. All 5 of those guys are still playing at the same level (or better) than last year. I tried to explain this to you, but you are too thick!
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