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    Humblepie
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2011 - 6:23 PM ET #26

    you guys are little dense.....

    it's spelled hyperbaric chamber...

    look up the word hyperbole and you would get the sarcasm....
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    you guys are little dense.....

    it's spelled hyperbaric chamber...

    look up the word hyperbole and you would get the sarcasm....
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2011 - 6:41 PM ET #27

    There are some suggesting that the Celtics will want to vaporize the helpless Cavaliers in the same manner that the Lakers did two weeks ago just to show everyone that they can.  This kind of reasoning, I think, is asinine.  In fact something closer to the opposite is true.  Doc Rivers is a classy guy, and he knows that Cleveland's current predicament is a frightening one.  He knows this because he's been there.  Seems hard to believe, but it was only four short years ago that Rivers was coaching a Celtics team that lost 18 straight games and 22 out of 23 en route to a 24-58 record.  A little over six years ago, Rivers was coaching the Orlando Magic and lost his job just 11 games into the season when the team started out 1-10.  Rivers might be the last guy to pour it on against a terrible team like Cleveland.  It seems even more farfetched that he'd allow this to happen to his friend, Cavs head coach Byron Scott. 

    Some people are figuring that if the Lakers could trounce these Cavs by 55 points, then Boston can beat them by at least 30, right?  The thing is, Rivers will be mindful of the humiliation the Cavaliers suffered two weeks ago in L.A. and will probably be making moves to make sure that kind of brutality doesn't happen tonight.  Celtics backers are counting on a fired up Big Three to clean house off an upset loss in their last game, but what they'll probably get is lots and lots of Avery Bradley, Semih Erden, Luke Harangody, and Von Wafer.  I believe Doc Rivers will try to find a balance between being merciful upon tonight's absolutely hapless opponent and not leting his team become too sloppy or complacent.  The Celtics could cover this line by accident, sure, but I just think it's a mistake to expect that Boston will have any kind of eye of the tiger in this one.  I have Cleveland +17 +107 courtesy of a bad bettor at Matchbook this morning who kept accepting my crummy offer so I just kept offering more - and he kept accepting. 

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    There are some suggesting that the Celtics will want to vaporize the helpless Cavaliers in the same manner that the Lakers did two weeks ago just to show everyone that they can.  This kind of reasoning, I think, is asinine.  In fact something closer to the opposite is true.  Doc Rivers is a classy guy, and he knows that Cleveland's current predicament is a frightening one.  He knows this because he's been there.  Seems hard to believe, but it was only four short years ago that Rivers was coaching a Celtics team that lost 18 straight games and 22 out of 23 en route to a 24-58 record.  A little over six years ago, Rivers was coaching the Orlando Magic and lost his job just 11 games into the season when the team started out 1-10.  Rivers might be the last guy to pour it on against a terrible team like Cleveland.  It seems even more farfetched that he'd allow this to happen to his friend, Cavs head coach Byron Scott. 

    Some people are figuring that if the Lakers could trounce these Cavs by 55 points, then Boston can beat them by at least 30, right?  The thing is, Rivers will be mindful of the humiliation the Cavaliers suffered two weeks ago in L.A. and will probably be making moves to make sure that kind of brutality doesn't happen tonight.  Celtics backers are counting on a fired up Big Three to clean house off an upset loss in their last game, but what they'll probably get is lots and lots of Avery Bradley, Semih Erden, Luke Harangody, and Von Wafer.  I believe Doc Rivers will try to find a balance between being merciful upon tonight's absolutely hapless opponent and not leting his team become too sloppy or complacent.  The Celtics could cover this line by accident, sure, but I just think it's a mistake to expect that Boston will have any kind of eye of the tiger in this one.  I have Cleveland +17 +107 courtesy of a bad bettor at Matchbook this morning who kept accepting my crummy offer so I just kept offering more - and he kept accepting. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2011 - 6:42 PM ET #28

    I just got down again at 16, treading on game of the month material again if we get to 15...
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    I just got down again at 16, treading on game of the month material again if we get to 15...
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2011 - 6:48 PM ET #29

    I took +17.5 at Stations..BOL
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2011 - 6:51 PM ET #30

    Bator,

    I guess once in a while we will have different opinions. I agree with part of your discussion about Doc Rivers. I read a few articles from newspapers in both cities this morning examining this very issue. But, it was also mentioned that the Cavs did SU beat the Celtics earlier in the year, so you cant take them too lightly. I also agree if the spread was -45 that the Celtics might peel back... but -17 is far from a humiliating margin and I don't see Doc telling his players to shave points out of sympathy. You got a good price for sure, so good shopping. We will see what happens. I just think that to back a  Cavs bet tonight is more of a grab on and hope situation versus truly believing that they can hang in basketball wise.

    Good Luck either way!
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    Bator,

    I guess once in a while we will have different opinions. I agree with part of your discussion about Doc Rivers. I read a few articles from newspapers in both cities this morning examining this very issue. But, it was also mentioned that the Cavs did SU beat the Celtics earlier in the year, so you cant take them too lightly. I also agree if the spread was -45 that the Celtics might peel back... but -17 is far from a humiliating margin and I don't see Doc telling his players to shave points out of sympathy. You got a good price for sure, so good shopping. We will see what happens. I just think that to back a  Cavs bet tonight is more of a grab on and hope situation versus truly believing that they can hang in basketball wise.

    Good Luck either way!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2011 - 6:52 PM ET #32

    GL
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2011 - 6:53 PM ET #33

    MrBator,

    That's all well and good. But frankly what do you expect the players to do just half ass their way on every possession? 17 points is certainly a high spread but teams win by that margin on a nightly basis. Doc Rivers is not in the locker room right now saying "We got this one in the bag guys, lets go easy on them"

    oh and Perkins is back tonight... that alone will fire up the crowd and the team.


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    MrBator,

    That's all well and good. But frankly what do you expect the players to do just half ass their way on every possession? 17 points is certainly a high spread but teams win by that margin on a nightly basis. Doc Rivers is not in the locker room right now saying "We got this one in the bag guys, lets go easy on them"

    oh and Perkins is back tonight... that alone will fire up the crowd and the team.


     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2011 - 7:01 PM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by m15525:

    Bator,

    I guess once in a while we will have different opinions. I agree with part of your discussion about Doc Rivers. I read a few articles from newspapers in both cities this morning examining this very issue. But, it was also mentioned that the Cavs did SU beat the Celtics earlier in the year, so you cant take them too lightly.
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Every team in the NBA can't help but take the Cavs lightly these days after the carnage everyone witnessed on Cleveland's West coast road trip.  You would think a struggling team like the New Jersey Nets couldn't afford to take any team lightly, but they clearly approached last night's game that way and it almsot got them an embarrassing home loss. 
     
    The Celtics got their revenge for that loss in Cleveland a month later by waxing the Cavs at the Q, 106-87.  While Rivers won't be encouraging his guys to play nice, I also don't think his pregame speech will be a memorable one, either.  This is a scrimmage for the Celtics.  If they play as uninspired as they did a week ago against the Pistons (Shaq made the rare admission afterwards that the team just wasn't into it), covering this 17 points won't be easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by m15525:

    Bator,

    I guess once in a while we will have different opinions. I agree with part of your discussion about Doc Rivers. I read a few articles from newspapers in both cities this morning examining this very issue. But, it was also mentioned that the Cavs did SU beat the Celtics earlier in the year, so you cant take them too lightly.
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Every team in the NBA can't help but take the Cavs lightly these days after the carnage everyone witnessed on Cleveland's West coast road trip.  You would think a struggling team like the New Jersey Nets couldn't afford to take any team lightly, but they clearly approached last night's game that way and it almsot got them an embarrassing home loss. 
     
    The Celtics got their revenge for that loss in Cleveland a month later by waxing the Cavs at the Q, 106-87.  While Rivers won't be encouraging his guys to play nice, I also don't think his pregame speech will be a memorable one, either.  This is a scrimmage for the Celtics.  If they play as uninspired as they did a week ago against the Pistons (Shaq made the rare admission afterwards that the team just wasn't into it), covering this 17 points won't be easy.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:

     
     
     
     
     
    Every team in the NBA can't help but take the Cavs lightly these days after the carnage everyone witnessed on Cleveland's West coast road trip.  You would think a struggling team like the New Jersey Nets couldn't afford to take any team lightly, but they clearly approached last night's game that way and it almsot got them an embarrassing home loss. 
     
    The Celtics got their revenge for that loss in Cleveland a month later by waxing the Cavs at the Q, 106-87.  While Rivers won't be encouraging his guys to play nice, I also don't think his pregame speech will be a memorable one, either.  This is a scrimmage for the Celtics.  If they play as uninspired as they did a week ago against the Pistons (Shaq made the rare admission afterwards that the team just wasn't into it), covering this 17 points won't be easy.


    ... and therein lies the rub and pretty much the biggest reason why I took Cleveland on this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:

     
     
     
     
     
    Every team in the NBA can't help but take the Cavs lightly these days after the carnage everyone witnessed on Cleveland's West coast road trip.  You would think a struggling team like the New Jersey Nets couldn't afford to take any team lightly, but they clearly approached last night's game that way and it almsot got them an embarrassing home loss. 
     
    The Celtics got their revenge for that loss in Cleveland a month later by waxing the Cavs at the Q, 106-87.  While Rivers won't be encouraging his guys to play nice, I also don't think his pregame speech will be a memorable one, either.  This is a scrimmage for the Celtics.  If they play as uninspired as they did a week ago against the Pistons (Shaq made the rare admission afterwards that the team just wasn't into it), covering this 17 points won't be easy.


    ... and therein lies the rub and pretty much the biggest reason why I took Cleveland on this one.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nbafan88:

    MrBator,

    That's all well and good. But frankly what do you expect the players to do just half ass their way on every possession? 17 points is certainly a high spread but teams win by that margin on a nightly basis.

     

     

    But they seldom do it when they're expected to, because the motivation is sorely lacking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nbafan88:

    MrBator,

    That's all well and good. But frankly what do you expect the players to do just half ass their way on every possession? 17 points is certainly a high spread but teams win by that margin on a nightly basis.

     

     

    But they seldom do it when they're expected to, because the motivation is sorely lacking.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2011 - 7:07 PM ET #37

    can anyone find a record for favorites that open up at 17 or more over the last ten years?
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    can anyone find a record for favorites that open up at 17 or more over the last ten years?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2011 - 7:14 PM ET #38

    Its intelligent discussion,
    I am aware of the fact that the Cavs will be a soft spot on a teams schedule for sure.... But the Cavs are just not an NBA team right now. Not to mention, they are going to be totally used up 4 in 5, b2b & srd straight away.


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    Its intelligent discussion,
    I am aware of the fact that the Cavs will be a soft spot on a teams schedule for sure.... But the Cavs are just not an NBA team right now. Not to mention, they are going to be totally used up 4 in 5, b2b & srd straight away.


     
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    m15525 -- I don't think either me or Bator are saying that there is no chance that Boston doesn't cover this number. Would I at all be surprised to see Boston dust these clowns by 30? Not at all.
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    m15525 -- I don't think either me or Bator are saying that there is no chance that Boston doesn't cover this number. Would I at all be surprised to see Boston dust these clowns by 30? Not at all.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:

    m15525 -- I don't think either me or Bator are saying that there is no chance that Boston doesn't cover this number. Would I at all be surprised to see Boston dust these clowns by 30? Not at all.

    Its all good, it will be interesting to see how it plays out. Its just one pick:)
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:

    m15525 -- I don't think either me or Bator are saying that there is no chance that Boston doesn't cover this number. Would I at all be surprised to see Boston dust these clowns by 30? Not at all.

    Its all good, it will be interesting to see how it plays out. Its just one pick:)
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:

    m15525 -- I don't think either me or Bator are saying that there is no chance that Boston doesn't cover this number. Would I at all be surprised to see Boston dust these clowns by 30? Not at all.

     

     

    I've already got my mini white flag on my desk right next to me, so I'm ready for the game.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:

    m15525 -- I don't think either me or Bator are saying that there is no chance that Boston doesn't cover this number. Would I at all be surprised to see Boston dust these clowns by 30? Not at all.

     

     

    I've already got my mini white flag on my desk right next to me, so I'm ready for the game.

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2011 - 7:25 PM ET #42

    MrB---   JUST heard on SportsTalk Radio IN CLeveland (where i Reside)...
    Byron Scott Said DocRivers CALLED HIM last Night and Said "I Feel For ZYou and Your team as i Have BEEN in Your Position In the Near Past and Look where were at Now, So Keep Yer Heads Up".... Sounds Like he Is Well Aware of the Situation at Hand.. Gonna Be Tough to Bet Either Side. as You Both (Whom I Respect BOTH) Have Compelling Arguements for each Side...   Just Relaying What i JUST heard on Radio
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    MrB---   JUST heard on SportsTalk Radio IN CLeveland (where i Reside)...
    Byron Scott Said DocRivers CALLED HIM last Night and Said "I Feel For ZYou and Your team as i Have BEEN in Your Position In the Near Past and Look where were at Now, So Keep Yer Heads Up".... Sounds Like he Is Well Aware of the Situation at Hand.. Gonna Be Tough to Bet Either Side. as You Both (Whom I Respect BOTH) Have Compelling Arguements for each Side...   Just Relaying What i JUST heard on Radio
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2011 - 7:30 PM ET #43

    Would any one be suprised to see the Celts up 58-41 at halftime?

    Or the Celts up 85-62 at the end of three qtrs.?

    And then the Celtics empty the bench. Cavs win final qtr. 26-19?

    Final score Boston 104 Cleveland 88?

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    Would any one be suprised to see the Celts up 58-41 at halftime?

    Or the Celts up 85-62 at the end of three qtrs.?

    And then the Celtics empty the bench. Cavs win final qtr. 26-19?

    Final score Boston 104 Cleveland 88?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2011 - 7:32 PM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by jdj36:

    MrB---   JUST heard on SportsTalk Radio IN CLeveland (where i Reside)...
    Byron Scott Said DocRivers CALLED HIM last Night and Said "I Feel For ZYou and Your team as i Have BEEN in Your Position In the Near Past and Look where were at Now, So Keep Yer Heads Up".... Sounds Like he Is Well Aware of the Situation at Hand.. Gonna Be Tough to Bet Either Side. as You Both (Whom I Respect BOTH) Have Compelling Arguements for each Side...   Just Relaying What i JUST heard on Radio

     

     

    I swear, I was NOT listening in on that phone call.  It just seems like I was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdj36:

    MrB---   JUST heard on SportsTalk Radio IN CLeveland (where i Reside)...
    Byron Scott Said DocRivers CALLED HIM last Night and Said "I Feel For ZYou and Your team as i Have BEEN in Your Position In the Near Past and Look where were at Now, So Keep Yer Heads Up".... Sounds Like he Is Well Aware of the Situation at Hand.. Gonna Be Tough to Bet Either Side. as You Both (Whom I Respect BOTH) Have Compelling Arguements for each Side...   Just Relaying What i JUST heard on Radio

     

     

    I swear, I was NOT listening in on that phone call.  It just seems like I was.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2011 - 7:47 PM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:

     

     

    I swear, I was NOT listening in on that phone call.  It just seems like I was.

    HA!...    Hey BillyWalters has Runners...  MrB Has GPS and PhonesTapped on NBA Coaches...   Im Going LIGHT On tonight.. Good Luck to You Both...  Your Both Two Respected Cappers, In Which i Always Appreciate your Insights...GL 

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:

     

     

    I swear, I was NOT listening in on that phone call.  It just seems like I was.

    HA!...    Hey BillyWalters has Runners...  MrB Has GPS and PhonesTapped on NBA Coaches...   Im Going LIGHT On tonight.. Good Luck to You Both...  Your Both Two Respected Cappers, In Which i Always Appreciate your Insights...GL 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2011 - 8:48 PM ET #46

    What's your thoughts on Boston -3.5 after that first half?
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2011 - 8:51 PM ET #47

    another blow out just l
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2011 - 8:52 PM ET #48

    Quote Originally Posted by 3rdLeg:

    What's your thoughts on Boston -3.5 after that first half?

    You couldn't get me on the Cavs for any amount of points right now. They are a semi-pro team and all their starters are gassed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3rdLeg:

    What's your thoughts on Boston -3.5 after that first half?

    You couldn't get me on the Cavs for any amount of points right now. They are a semi-pro team and all their starters are gassed.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2011 - 8:55 PM ET #49

    Ok let ride on Celtics this half
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2011 - 9:54 PM ET #50

    WOUW by 17 !!!! 

    I got 17.5 +133 on live betting when cav. down by 20 pts. just before 1qtr ends.. DANGggg 
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    I got 17.5 +133 on live betting when cav. down by 20 pts. just before 1qtr ends.. DANGggg 
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