So far this season the Pacers have 9 wins yet only 1 of them came against a team with a winning record ( beating ATL 96-84 on 1/11/12 at home). The Pacer's other 8 wins all came against teams with losing records (Raptors(2x's) 4-10, Bobcats 3-12, Celtics(2x's) 4-8, Nets 3-11, Cavs 6-7 & Pistons 3-11). Yet for some reason everyone is intrigued by their success early on just because they have won 9 games and only lost 3 (All on the road). Sure this Pacers team is better than last years team and will certainly exceed last years winning % of 45% with ease. However they are now about to lay more than 5 points on the road which is something they have only done 3 times prior to the season in the past 4 basketball seasons (Not including this year). Those 3 games of course came out in the home teams favor as far as making money as the Pacers went 0-3ats laying this kind of road chalk which has only been meant for the elite teams of the NBA to be doing so. Here are tho games below:
02/02/11 @Cavs (117-112)w -6.5
03/07/09 @Clippers (106-105)w -6.5
12/21/07 @Wolves (118-131)L -5.5
So all of the sudden the Pacers have made some moves over teh past few seasons and have put together a nice team. And so far this season the Pacers are getting love from the books and the betting public as we have already seen the Pacers lay more than 5 points on the road 2 times this season. The 1st time was against the lowly Nets on the 2nd of this very month as the Pacers waltzed into New Jersey and beat the Nets from start to finish 108-94 and covering the -6 rather easily. That game for sure caught the public eye and in result only 11 days after that very game the Pacers were again on the road (this time in Toronto) laying more than 5 points. Something that has only happened 3 times in 4 full seasons has now just happened 2 times while not even allowing 2 full weeks to pass us by. And just when you thought maybe there was maybe a good reason this has happened again so quickly the Raptors proceeded to hold a lead in this game for the better part of 90% of the game right from the get go as the Pacers were able to overcome as much as an 18pt deficit in the first half and a Danny Granger ejection before the 1st half could finish as the Pacers won that game 95-90 but failed to cover the -5.5 point spread as the cover for the Raptors was much easier than it looked on paper. Now that there has been a public love fest brewing on the Pacers since the short off season and signing of David West. The willingness for people to just blindly bet on the 9-3su & 7-5ats Pacers now has forced the betting market to yet once again make the Pacers road favs of 5 or more now for the 3rd time in just 16 days as they know people are more than willing to lay the road chalk now. This is exactly were I beg to differ as laying this kind of number on the road is only meant for the elite teams of the league as history has shown us and with the Pacers having 8 of their 9 wins thus far come against teams that have just a 28% winning rate combined (31-77su) leads me to more than question the stature that Indiana Pacer basketball is currently being placed in. I mean this is the same Pacer team that is currently ranked 20th in the NBA in points scored per game at 93.2ppg and 27th in FG% at 41.3% after playing a very weak schedule in the process. Yet they are being treated now by the recreational bettors of today as if they are an ELITE team. Sorry until otherwise proven I disagree with anyone who believes they should be laying this kind of chalk. Even against the Kings, who I might add have recently returned Marcus "Baby buckets" Thornton to the lineup after a 2 game absence due to a thigh injury. His 17.7ppg and ability to knock down jumpers including the 3 pointer at a high level will be gladly welcomed back moving forward. Also with all the education I provided here regarding the Pacers it should be known that the Kings only have just 2 losses at the moment to a team with a losing record (Knicks & Wolves) as here are the list of opponents they have lost to this season so far:
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So far this season the Pacers have 9 wins yet only 1 of them came against a team with a winning record ( beating ATL 96-84 on 1/11/12 at home). The Pacer's other 8 wins all came against teams with losing records (Raptors(2x's) 4-10, Bobcats 3-12, Celtics(2x's) 4-8, Nets 3-11, Cavs 6-7 & Pistons 3-11). Yet for some reason everyone is intrigued by their success early on just because they have won 9 games and only lost 3 (All on the road). Sure this Pacers team is better than last years team and will certainly exceed last years winning % of 45% with ease. However they are now about to lay more than 5 points on the road which is something they have only done 3 times prior to the season in the past 4 basketball seasons (Not including this year). Those 3 games of course came out in the home teams favor as far as making money as the Pacers went 0-3ats laying this kind of road chalk which has only been meant for the elite teams of the NBA to be doing so. Here are tho games below:
02/02/11 @Cavs (117-112)w -6.5
03/07/09 @Clippers (106-105)w -6.5
12/21/07 @Wolves (118-131)L -5.5
So all of the sudden the Pacers have made some moves over teh past few seasons and have put together a nice team. And so far this season the Pacers are getting love from the books and the betting public as we have already seen the Pacers lay more than 5 points on the road 2 times this season. The 1st time was against the lowly Nets on the 2nd of this very month as the Pacers waltzed into New Jersey and beat the Nets from start to finish 108-94 and covering the -6 rather easily. That game for sure caught the public eye and in result only 11 days after that very game the Pacers were again on the road (this time in Toronto) laying more than 5 points. Something that has only happened 3 times in 4 full seasons has now just happened 2 times while not even allowing 2 full weeks to pass us by. And just when you thought maybe there was maybe a good reason this has happened again so quickly the Raptors proceeded to hold a lead in this game for the better part of 90% of the game right from the get go as the Pacers were able to overcome as much as an 18pt deficit in the first half and a Danny Granger ejection before the 1st half could finish as the Pacers won that game 95-90 but failed to cover the -5.5 point spread as the cover for the Raptors was much easier than it looked on paper. Now that there has been a public love fest brewing on the Pacers since the short off season and signing of David West. The willingness for people to just blindly bet on the 9-3su & 7-5ats Pacers now has forced the betting market to yet once again make the Pacers road favs of 5 or more now for the 3rd time in just 16 days as they know people are more than willing to lay the road chalk now. This is exactly were I beg to differ as laying this kind of number on the road is only meant for the elite teams of the league as history has shown us and with the Pacers having 8 of their 9 wins thus far come against teams that have just a 28% winning rate combined (31-77su) leads me to more than question the stature that Indiana Pacer basketball is currently being placed in. I mean this is the same Pacer team that is currently ranked 20th in the NBA in points scored per game at 93.2ppg and 27th in FG% at 41.3% after playing a very weak schedule in the process. Yet they are being treated now by the recreational bettors of today as if they are an ELITE team. Sorry until otherwise proven I disagree with anyone who believes they should be laying this kind of chalk. Even against the Kings, who I might add have recently returned Marcus "Baby buckets" Thornton to the lineup after a 2 game absence due to a thigh injury. His 17.7ppg and ability to knock down jumpers including the 3 pointer at a high level will be gladly welcomed back moving forward. Also with all the education I provided here regarding the Pacers it should be known that the Kings only have just 2 losses at the moment to a team with a losing record (Knicks & Wolves) as here are the list of opponents they have lost to this season so far:
That's a lineup worthy of making any team struggle to put together some wins. These opponents have a combined record of 77-45 which signifies a 63% winning percentage on the season teams the Kings have lost to. So yeah I see some value on the Kings catching the points at home tonight...
I will be playing the Kings +pts but I will be awaiting the public to bet it up on the Pacer side and try to weasel some more value closer to game time...POD
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Blazers 8-5su
Bulls 13-3su
Knicks 6-7su
Grizzlies 6-6su
Nuggets 9-5su
Magic 10-3su
Sixers 10-3su
Rockets 7-7su
Mavs 8-6su
Wolves 5-8su
That's a lineup worthy of making any team struggle to put together some wins. These opponents have a combined record of 77-45 which signifies a 63% winning percentage on the season teams the Kings have lost to. So yeah I see some value on the Kings catching the points at home tonight...
I will be playing the Kings +pts but I will be awaiting the public to bet it up on the Pacer side and try to weasel some more value closer to game time...POD
That's a lineup worthy of making any team struggle to put together some wins. These opponents have a combined record of 77-45 which signifies a 63% winning percentage on the season teams the Kings have lost to. So yeah I see some value on the Kings catching the points at home tonight...
I will be playing the Kings +pts but I will be awaiting the public to bet it up on the Pacer side and try to weasel some more value closer to game time...POD
Apparently I was adding something else becasue after recalculation this record should read as 82-53(605) not 77-45(63%)...
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Quote Originally Posted by oddsbuster:
Blazers 8-5su
Bulls 13-3su
Knicks 6-7su
Grizzlies 6-6su
Nuggets 9-5su
Magic 10-3su
Sixers 10-3su
Rockets 7-7su
Mavs 8-6su
Wolves 5-8su
That's a lineup worthy of making any team struggle to put together some wins. These opponents have a combined record of 77-45 which signifies a 63% winning percentage on the season teams the Kings have lost to. So yeah I see some value on the Kings catching the points at home tonight...
I will be playing the Kings +pts but I will be awaiting the public to bet it up on the Pacer side and try to weasel some more value closer to game time...POD
Apparently I was adding something else becasue after recalculation this record should read as 82-53(605) not 77-45(63%)...
great write up but the angle i am focusing on betting in the nba will have me betting on the pacers here.......kings coming home after a long road trip with 0 or 1 days rest is an automatic bet against with my angle......best of luck tho....one of us will win
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great write up but the angle i am focusing on betting in the nba will have me betting on the pacers here.......kings coming home after a long road trip with 0 or 1 days rest is an automatic bet against with my angle......best of luck tho....one of us will win
Sac has played 6 gms in 9 nights, the last 5 of those on the road. This is their first game back home after having Tuesday off. They beat Toronto straight up but didn't cover any other game in that stretch. Indy has played 3 games in 9 days, their last at home on Saturday. I don't see fatigue being a factor (maybe a little early rust). I do see fatigue perhaps from Sac, as this is similar to a rd game after coming home from a 5 gm roadie. Indy would like to start their trip off with a W and Sacremento could care less. I'll be on the opposite side but thanks for the write up. GL the rest of the season and look forward to a couple more plays from you. Personally I like Atlanta -1.5 but hate betting that team
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Sac has played 6 gms in 9 nights, the last 5 of those on the road. This is their first game back home after having Tuesday off. They beat Toronto straight up but didn't cover any other game in that stretch. Indy has played 3 games in 9 days, their last at home on Saturday. I don't see fatigue being a factor (maybe a little early rust). I do see fatigue perhaps from Sac, as this is similar to a rd game after coming home from a 5 gm roadie. Indy would like to start their trip off with a W and Sacremento could care less. I'll be on the opposite side but thanks for the write up. GL the rest of the season and look forward to a couple more plays from you. Personally I like Atlanta -1.5 but hate betting that team
I know the Pacers are better as a team here. The only reason I can't pull the trigger is that the Pacers aren't the same team they are on the road than at home.
What do you think of Atlanta? They seem to have much success against Portland in their head-to-head.
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I know the Pacers are better as a team here. The only reason I can't pull the trigger is that the Pacers aren't the same team they are on the road than at home.
What do you think of Atlanta? They seem to have much success against Portland in their head-to-head.
Looks like we have 2 more teams on the 3rd leg of b2b2b note tonight...
Magic -5.5 vs Spurs (196.5)...
Clippers... (No spread yet. CP3 missed the past 2 games & Mo Williams missed the past 3 games)...
Here's the running trend this season so far:
12/27/11...Lakers beat Jazz at home 96-71 (-5.5)188u
12/31/11...Rockets beat Hawks at home 95-84 ( -1) 192.5u
1/02/12...Nuggets beat Bucks at home 91-86 (-4.5)197u
1/05/12...Kings beat Bucks at home 103-100 (+3)187o
1/07/12...Hawks beat Bulls at home 109-94 (+6)173.5o
1/08/12...Thunder beat Spurs at home 108-96 (-6)196o
1/10/12...T-Wolves lost at home to the Bulls 111-100 (+6.5)184.5o
1/11/12...Raptors lost at home to the Kings 91-98 (-5.5) 189p
1/11/12...Sixers lost on the road at Knicks 79-85 (+3.5) 196.5u
1/11/12...Bulls beat Wizards at home 78-64 (-11.5) 180.5u
1/14/12...Bobcats beat Warriors at home 112-100 (+3) 190.5o
1/14/12...Nets lost on the road at Jazz 94-107 (+8) 190.5o
So the team on it's 3rd leg of b2b2b this year is now at 8-4su & 8-4ats on the season as the over is 6-5-1 after both overs came in easily on the 14th. Just an FYI for anyone else following this trend...
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Looks like we have 2 more teams on the 3rd leg of b2b2b note tonight...
Magic -5.5 vs Spurs (196.5)...
Clippers... (No spread yet. CP3 missed the past 2 games & Mo Williams missed the past 3 games)...
Here's the running trend this season so far:
12/27/11...Lakers beat Jazz at home 96-71 (-5.5)188u
12/31/11...Rockets beat Hawks at home 95-84 ( -1) 192.5u
1/02/12...Nuggets beat Bucks at home 91-86 (-4.5)197u
1/05/12...Kings beat Bucks at home 103-100 (+3)187o
1/07/12...Hawks beat Bulls at home 109-94 (+6)173.5o
1/08/12...Thunder beat Spurs at home 108-96 (-6)196o
1/10/12...T-Wolves lost at home to the Bulls 111-100 (+6.5)184.5o
1/11/12...Raptors lost at home to the Kings 91-98 (-5.5) 189p
1/11/12...Sixers lost on the road at Knicks 79-85 (+3.5) 196.5u
1/11/12...Bulls beat Wizards at home 78-64 (-11.5) 180.5u
1/14/12...Bobcats beat Warriors at home 112-100 (+3) 190.5o
1/14/12...Nets lost on the road at Jazz 94-107 (+8) 190.5o
So the team on it's 3rd leg of b2b2b this year is now at 8-4su & 8-4ats on the season as the over is 6-5-1 after both overs came in easily on the 14th. Just an FYI for anyone else following this trend...
I know the Pacers are better as a team here. The only reason I can't pull the trigger is that the Pacers aren't the same team they are on the road than at home.
What do you think of Atlanta? They seem to have much success against Portland in their head-to-head.
Since Al Horford got hurt early on in the 1st qtr of the Pacers game on 1/11/12 the Hawks have won 3 of 4 games but have went 1-3ats in the process. IMO I think Horford is a much needed piece to the puzzle for winning against good teams (Portland is a good team). You can kind of throw out those ats stats though as the spread is very small at -1.5. I can't help but lean to Portland here with 8 of Atlanta's 10 wins coming against teams with losing records (Raptors 4-10, Wolves 5-8, Bobcats(2x's) 3-12, Nets(3x's) 3-11 & Wizards 1-12). Without Horford the Hawks are serious pretenders IMO...
I'm really close to taking the Blazers here on the road...
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Quote Originally Posted by CrazyMilkMan:
I know the Pacers are better as a team here. The only reason I can't pull the trigger is that the Pacers aren't the same team they are on the road than at home.
What do you think of Atlanta? They seem to have much success against Portland in their head-to-head.
Since Al Horford got hurt early on in the 1st qtr of the Pacers game on 1/11/12 the Hawks have won 3 of 4 games but have went 1-3ats in the process. IMO I think Horford is a much needed piece to the puzzle for winning against good teams (Portland is a good team). You can kind of throw out those ats stats though as the spread is very small at -1.5. I can't help but lean to Portland here with 8 of Atlanta's 10 wins coming against teams with losing records (Raptors 4-10, Wolves 5-8, Bobcats(2x's) 3-12, Nets(3x's) 3-11 & Wizards 1-12). Without Horford the Hawks are serious pretenders IMO...
I'm really close to taking the Blazers here on the road...
I know the Pacers are better as a team here. The only reason I can't pull the trigger is that the Pacers aren't the same team they are on the road than at home.
What do you think of Atlanta? They seem to have much success against Portland in their head-to-head.
Atlanta have won the last 5 games versus Portland. Of course they won both of their match up last year. 1 of them is without horford
but i also noticed jamal crawford used to give portland a headache on their previous 2 games (21 ppg).
playing against old teams this season, at least involving key players, resulted to 1-1. Utah defeating Deron and the other night with Odom and lakers.
i might be biased here as i love portland personally. so please help guys.
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Quote Originally Posted by CrazyMilkMan:
I know the Pacers are better as a team here. The only reason I can't pull the trigger is that the Pacers aren't the same team they are on the road than at home.
What do you think of Atlanta? They seem to have much success against Portland in their head-to-head.
Atlanta have won the last 5 games versus Portland. Of course they won both of their match up last year. 1 of them is without horford
but i also noticed jamal crawford used to give portland a headache on their previous 2 games (21 ppg).
playing against old teams this season, at least involving key players, resulted to 1-1. Utah defeating Deron and the other night with Odom and lakers.
i might be biased here as i love portland personally. so please help guys.
great write up but the angle i am focusing on betting in the nba will have me betting on the pacers here.......kings coming home after a long road trip with 0 or 1 days rest is an automatic bet against with my angle......best of luck tho....one of us will win
Last year the Kings were 3-3su coming home after a road trip of 3 games or more on your 0 or 1 days rest scenario. Only one game they were catching more than 5 points. That was vs the Thunder a game they lost 112-120. Please explain how a 3-3su record in this scenario last season has you making the Pacers an automatic bet?
Hell the Kings already defied odds once this season on the 3rd leg of a b2b2b situation as they beat the Bucks SU at home 103-100 as 3 point home dogs as the Kings played 2 prior games on the road...
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Quote Originally Posted by indiansrock:
great write up but the angle i am focusing on betting in the nba will have me betting on the pacers here.......kings coming home after a long road trip with 0 or 1 days rest is an automatic bet against with my angle......best of luck tho....one of us will win
Last year the Kings were 3-3su coming home after a road trip of 3 games or more on your 0 or 1 days rest scenario. Only one game they were catching more than 5 points. That was vs the Thunder a game they lost 112-120. Please explain how a 3-3su record in this scenario last season has you making the Pacers an automatic bet?
Hell the Kings already defied odds once this season on the 3rd leg of a b2b2b situation as they beat the Bucks SU at home 103-100 as 3 point home dogs as the Kings played 2 prior games on the road...
Sac has played 6 gms in 9 nights, the last 5 of those on the road. This is their first game back home after having Tuesday off. They beat Toronto straight up but didn't cover any other game in that stretch. Indy has played 3 games in 9 days, their last at home on Saturday. I don't see fatigue being a factor (maybe a little early rust). I do see fatigue perhaps from Sac, as this is similar to a rd game after coming home from a 5 gm roadie. Indy would like to start their trip off with a W and Sacremento could care less. I'll be on the opposite side but thanks for the write up. GL the rest of the season and look forward to a couple more plays from you. Personally I like Atlanta -1.5 but hate betting that team
Likewise...
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Quote Originally Posted by doliver517:
Sac has played 6 gms in 9 nights, the last 5 of those on the road. This is their first game back home after having Tuesday off. They beat Toronto straight up but didn't cover any other game in that stretch. Indy has played 3 games in 9 days, their last at home on Saturday. I don't see fatigue being a factor (maybe a little early rust). I do see fatigue perhaps from Sac, as this is similar to a rd game after coming home from a 5 gm roadie. Indy would like to start their trip off with a W and Sacremento could care less. I'll be on the opposite side but thanks for the write up. GL the rest of the season and look forward to a couple more plays from you. Personally I like Atlanta -1.5 but hate betting that team
Thanks for the kind words Tony Dan. So far I can get +6 at Betonline.com. I hoping to get more. Going to be patient here for a few more hours and see where the number goes. I'm guessing I can get more...
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Quote Originally Posted by tonydan:
love both Sac and Portland. excellent writeups
BOL going forward
Thanks for the kind words Tony Dan. So far I can get +6 at Betonline.com. I hoping to get more. Going to be patient here for a few more hours and see where the number goes. I'm guessing I can get more...
one of the better system plays i ever used is betting AGAINST the home team coming back form a 4 plus game road trip and being home for 0-1 days....gl bucking that system id say it wins about 63% of the time
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one of the better system plays i ever used is betting AGAINST the home team coming back form a 4 plus game road trip and being home for 0-1 days....gl bucking that system id say it wins about 63% of the time
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Last year the Kings were 3-3su coming home after a road trip of 3 games or more on your 0 or 1 days rest scenario. Only one game they were catching more than 5 points. That was vs the Thunder a game they lost 112-120. Please explain how a 3-3su record in this scenario last season has you making the Pacers an automatic bet?
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