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    Sharps are on Celtics, are you?

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    Posted: May. 7, 2010 - 3:16 PM ET #1

    Line has moved from Cavs -1.5 to pick. Public seems be split on game, according to sportsbook.com betting trends.


    https://www.sportsbook.com/betting-trends/

    I am on celtics +1, but have been ice cold, who are you on in this game?
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    Line has moved from Cavs -1.5 to pick. Public seems be split on game, according to sportsbook.com betting trends.


    https://www.sportsbook.com/betting-trends/

    I am on celtics +1, but have been ice cold, who are you on in this game?
     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2010 - 3:18 PM ET #2

    Cavs BIG, but what do I know.
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    Posted: May. 7, 2010 - 3:28 PM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by ValueforRent:

    Cavs BIG, but what do I know.

    you know more then most around these parts brother. I am with you large tonight

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    Quote Originally Posted by ValueforRent:

    Cavs BIG, but what do I know.

    you know more then most around these parts brother. I am with you large tonight

     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2010 - 3:32 PM ET #4

    i was thinking celtics all week when i first saw this line come out at +1 but today when i woke up i had this thought in my head saying would lebron let the cavs go down 1-2 in the series?  i think not,  CAVS +1 is the play.
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    i was thinking celtics all week when i first saw this line come out at +1 but today when i woke up i had this thought in my head saying would lebron let the cavs go down 1-2 in the series?  i think not,  CAVS +1 is the play.
     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2010 - 3:33 PM ET #5

    GOOD. CAUSE IM ON BOSTON LARGE (ALLIN)

     

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    GOOD. CAUSE IM ON BOSTON LARGE (ALLIN)

     

     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2010 - 3:39 PM ET #6

    Boston 1H play and then Cavs 2H for the inevitable 2nd half collapse by Boston?
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    Boston 1H play and then Cavs 2H for the inevitable 2nd half collapse by Boston?
     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2010 - 3:42 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodd2:

    i was thinking celtics all week when i first saw this line come out at +1 but today when i woke up i had this thought in my head saying would lebron let the cavs go down 1-2 in the series?  i think not,  CAVS +1 is the play.


    You think Lebron "let" the Cavs go down in game 2 at home?    He is ONE person, and he cannot take over a game like Jordan or Kobe.  The Celtics have too many good players for the Cavs to keep up with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodd2:

    i was thinking celtics all week when i first saw this line come out at +1 but today when i woke up i had this thought in my head saying would lebron let the cavs go down 1-2 in the series?  i think not,  CAVS +1 is the play.


    You think Lebron "let" the Cavs go down in game 2 at home?    He is ONE person, and he cannot take over a game like Jordan or Kobe.  The Celtics have too many good players for the Cavs to keep up with.
     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2010 - 4:04 PM ET #8

    what's the reason for backing cavs? celtics dominated them in both road matches, and they lost the 1st one right at the end. mo williams is mediocre, o'neal is useless, james is scared to dunk...rondo is red hot, so is garnett, ray allen too...

    i can't see how cavs can win this. to be homest, i don't think cavs will win another game this series.

    they are HUGELY overestimated. postseason means nothing in playoff.
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    what's the reason for backing cavs? celtics dominated them in both road matches, and they lost the 1st one right at the end. mo williams is mediocre, o'neal is useless, james is scared to dunk...rondo is red hot, so is garnett, ray allen too...

    i can't see how cavs can win this. to be homest, i don't think cavs will win another game this series.

    they are HUGELY overestimated. postseason means nothing in playoff.
     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2010 - 4:05 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodd2:

    i was thinking celtics all week when i first saw this line come out at +1 but today when i woke up i had this thought in my head saying would lebron let the cavs go down 1-2 in the series?  i think not,  CAVS +1 is the play.

    fairly common argument in the playoffs, which, based on my experience, proves to have absolutely no weight, and almost always burns the people who are putting all of their eggs in that ONE basket...

    that is now how the NBA works... if you are RELYING on one player to simply REFUSE to let  his team win... guess what?  the Celts have 10 guys who will have something to say about it...

    just saying... i have seen this exact argument used so many times, and i have come to see it as one small sign that a team is toast...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodd2:

    i was thinking celtics all week when i first saw this line come out at +1 but today when i woke up i had this thought in my head saying would lebron let the cavs go down 1-2 in the series?  i think not,  CAVS +1 is the play.

    fairly common argument in the playoffs, which, based on my experience, proves to have absolutely no weight, and almost always burns the people who are putting all of their eggs in that ONE basket...

    that is now how the NBA works... if you are RELYING on one player to simply REFUSE to let  his team win... guess what?  the Celts have 10 guys who will have something to say about it...

    just saying... i have seen this exact argument used so many times, and i have come to see it as one small sign that a team is toast...

     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2010 - 4:05 PM ET #10

    agree that. cavs IS james. and he ain't playing right. celtics are far better.
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    agree that. cavs IS james. and he ain't playing right. celtics are far better.
     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2010 - 4:07 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by barbusergiu:


    i can't see how cavs can win this. to be homest, i don't think cavs will win another game this series.


    wouldn't be at all surprised, but i think it is the nature of the Celts to play their best when pressure is on, and to have a let up in the less critical games... if Boston is up 3-1, game 5 in Cleveland becomes one of those possible games where they don't have the killer instinct...

    but game 6 will be a fucking blowout!

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbusergiu:


    i can't see how cavs can win this. to be homest, i don't think cavs will win another game this series.


    wouldn't be at all surprised, but i think it is the nature of the Celts to play their best when pressure is on, and to have a let up in the less critical games... if Boston is up 3-1, game 5 in Cleveland becomes one of those possible games where they don't have the killer instinct...

    but game 6 will be a fucking blowout!

     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2010 - 4:15 PM ET #12

    indeed. i am not saying that cavs are 100% useless, but celtics have the experience in their favor. and for who have seen the first 2 games, it was obvious that the score should be 2-0 for boston now.

    *i am a Mavs fan, so i am not saying all these as a celts fan.
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    indeed. i am not saying that cavs are 100% useless, but celtics have the experience in their favor. and for who have seen the first 2 games, it was obvious that the score should be 2-0 for boston now.

    *i am a Mavs fan, so i am not saying all these as a celts fan.
     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2010 - 4:19 PM ET #13

    I never bet against my C's but after that pathetic game 1 collapse I had a nickle on Cleveland monday they fucked up my satruday night losing by 8.

     

    I think more poeple would be on the Celts if they had opened at -4.  They are at home and Cleveland other than lebron sucks, Ill take them nbuit I think its too shady to chase my nickle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    I never bet against my C's but after that pathetic game 1 collapse I had a nickle on Cleveland monday they fucked up my satruday night losing by 8.

     

    I think more poeple would be on the Celts if they had opened at -4.  They are at home and Cleveland other than lebron sucks, Ill take them nbuit I think its too shady to chase my nickle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2010 - 4:21 PM ET #14

    Not sure who the long layoff helps, why do the teams get 3 days off?  Last year in the second round every fucking night the Celtics and Bruins were on at the same time I am sick of it, Ill throw up a shitty stream for the basketball I guess.
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    Not sure who the long layoff helps, why do the teams get 3 days off?  Last year in the second round every fucking night the Celtics and Bruins were on at the same time I am sick of it, Ill throw up a shitty stream for the basketball I guess.
     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2010 - 4:35 PM ET #15

    Colorado do you still have money riding on that suns to win the west future?

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    Colorado do you still have money riding on that suns to win the west future?

     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2010 - 4:45 PM ET #16

    CAVS
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    Quote Originally Posted by WestHamUnited:

    Not sure who the long layoff helps, why do the teams get 3 days off?  Last year in the second round every fucking night the Celtics and Bruins were on at the same time I am sick of it, Ill throw up a shitty stream for the basketball I guess.

    they do this every year... i assume it's a TV scheduling thing, but even that doesn't really make sense...

    every year there are at least 2 or 3 times where there is a 3 day layoff when it isn't really necessary...

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    Quote Originally Posted by WestHamUnited:

    Not sure who the long layoff helps, why do the teams get 3 days off?  Last year in the second round every fucking night the Celtics and Bruins were on at the same time I am sick of it, Ill throw up a shitty stream for the basketball I guess.

    they do this every year... i assume it's a TV scheduling thing, but even that doesn't really make sense...

    every year there are at least 2 or 3 times where there is a 3 day layoff when it isn't really necessary...

     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2010 - 5:00 PM ET #18

    Will the so-called sharps be wrong again? Utah on tues. SA on wed. 3 times in 1 week? I doubt it... GL all...
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    Will the so-called sharps be wrong again? Utah on tues. SA on wed. 3 times in 1 week? I doubt it... GL all...
     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2010 - 5:22 PM ET #19

    Cavs come out with emotion, Lebron is fine.

    Cavs +1
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    Cavs come out with emotion, Lebron is fine.

    Cavs +1
     
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    this is just a random observation...

    see a lot of talk about where the sharp money is and fade the public and how the public is killing the books in these playoffs... i gotta say, i think that is being way overblown from the reality of it...

    at best, the public is doing a little better than they usually would, and the sharps are struggling a bit more than they usually do... but this assumption that all of the favorites covering means sharps are losing doesn't really have a foundation... even looking at line movement and all of that...

    sharps indicate not just big money, but smart money... there is a lot of STUPID big money out there...

    i get a read on public vs. sharp opinion by reading these forums... it is barely even worth the effort to try to go by line reading, or favorites only, or things like that... you want to know public perception, it is pretty simple... get inside the heads of the masses...

    forget about line movement and percentages and big money and all that shit... at best it gives you a 1 or 2% advantage, but it does so at the expense of the better advantages you would get by simply trusting your own reads and your own understanding of the game...

    public perception ebbs and flows constantly... the goal of the sharp is to find the middle ground and stay there...

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    this is just a random observation...

    see a lot of talk about where the sharp money is and fade the public and how the public is killing the books in these playoffs... i gotta say, i think that is being way overblown from the reality of it...

    at best, the public is doing a little better than they usually would, and the sharps are struggling a bit more than they usually do... but this assumption that all of the favorites covering means sharps are losing doesn't really have a foundation... even looking at line movement and all of that...

    sharps indicate not just big money, but smart money... there is a lot of STUPID big money out there...

    i get a read on public vs. sharp opinion by reading these forums... it is barely even worth the effort to try to go by line reading, or favorites only, or things like that... you want to know public perception, it is pretty simple... get inside the heads of the masses...

    forget about line movement and percentages and big money and all that shit... at best it gives you a 1 or 2% advantage, but it does so at the expense of the better advantages you would get by simply trusting your own reads and your own understanding of the game...

    public perception ebbs and flows constantly... the goal of the sharp is to find the middle ground and stay there...

     
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    I don't pay any attention to that Sharp/Public crap. People that read into that shit will drive themselves crazy.

    I git the Cavs as a Pick em.

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    I don't pay any attention to that Sharp/Public crap. People that read into that shit will drive themselves crazy.

    I git the Cavs as a Pick em.

     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2010 - 5:58 PM ET #22

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    redzone8
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    Posted: May. 7, 2010 - 6:06 PM ET #23

    Cleveland hasnt won shit in 40 something years!!!!!

    i know this is a game to game basis, but this game is for leverage.

    CELTICS

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    Cleveland hasnt won shit in 40 something years!!!!!

    i know this is a game to game basis, but this game is for leverage.

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    Ice4Blood
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    Posted: May. 7, 2010 - 6:28 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by Crowkillers:

    I don't pay any attention to that Sharp/Public crap. People that read into that shit will drive themselves crazy.

    yep... head games...

    worst thing that can happen to a bettor early on is to buy into some kind of "reverse line movement" or "public %" or "fishy line" thing early on and have a random run of success... and then they never let it go...

    a coin will flip up heads 15+ times in a row once in awhile... doesn't mean heads is a better bet than tails...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowkillers:

    I don't pay any attention to that Sharp/Public crap. People that read into that shit will drive themselves crazy.

    yep... head games...

    worst thing that can happen to a bettor early on is to buy into some kind of "reverse line movement" or "public %" or "fishy line" thing early on and have a random run of success... and then they never let it go...

    a coin will flip up heads 15+ times in a row once in awhile... doesn't mean heads is a better bet than tails...

     
     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2010 - 6:31 PM ET #25

    Going to wait till this one jumps off, then bet the ML live when I see who is going to win.... That simple
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    Going to wait till this one jumps off, then bet the ML live when I see who is going to win.... That simple
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