Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz: @ThrowDemDarts yup agreed, hes good but nothing close to steph hes a budding superstar and scratching into top 10 talks, some might have him 9 or 10 He is better than Curry at the same age though. He's not the pure shooter that Steph is but it's clear he's modeled his game after him and he's more explosive than Curry at that age. You could see it at Oklahoma. He's smaller than Curry though. Curry is a legit 6'2-3". Trae is, what, 5'11"? 6'? That was the only doubt I had about him coming out of college but he has made me a believer the past couple seasons. I still take Luka because of his size and true point mentality. Trae isn't really that guy and at his size will never be an NBA defender. Better at what? Having the ball in his hands more and taking more shots? He's more explosive. I said this. What, is this Trae's 3rd season? Curry's game was still filling out. I was going to 20+ Warriors games a year in Curry's first few seasons. I'm a Warriors homer. Saw almost every game of him coming up. He was a better college player, better nba player. Came in to the league with efficiency that’s rarely seen from someone that early in their career. Only difference was Monta Ellis was the primary ball handler and took too many shots. Once they got rid of him Currys game didn’t get better they simply just gave him the ball more. He was always better than Trae. It’s asinine for anyone to say poor shooting Trae is a better player than Steph was at this age, lol.
Now you are conceding that I am correct by basically saying “had Monte Ellis not been on the team, and had Curry gotten the ball more, he would have been better than Young at the same point in their careers. What kept him from being as good as Young is now is Ellis being on the team” He would have been better is not the same thing as he is better. Case closed.
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Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts:
Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz: @ThrowDemDarts yup agreed, hes good but nothing close to steph hes a budding superstar and scratching into top 10 talks, some might have him 9 or 10 He is better than Curry at the same age though. He's not the pure shooter that Steph is but it's clear he's modeled his game after him and he's more explosive than Curry at that age. You could see it at Oklahoma. He's smaller than Curry though. Curry is a legit 6'2-3". Trae is, what, 5'11"? 6'? That was the only doubt I had about him coming out of college but he has made me a believer the past couple seasons. I still take Luka because of his size and true point mentality. Trae isn't really that guy and at his size will never be an NBA defender. Better at what? Having the ball in his hands more and taking more shots? He's more explosive. I said this. What, is this Trae's 3rd season? Curry's game was still filling out. I was going to 20+ Warriors games a year in Curry's first few seasons. I'm a Warriors homer. Saw almost every game of him coming up. He was a better college player, better nba player. Came in to the league with efficiency that’s rarely seen from someone that early in their career. Only difference was Monta Ellis was the primary ball handler and took too many shots. Once they got rid of him Currys game didn’t get better they simply just gave him the ball more. He was always better than Trae. It’s asinine for anyone to say poor shooting Trae is a better player than Steph was at this age, lol.
Now you are conceding that I am correct by basically saying “had Monte Ellis not been on the team, and had Curry gotten the ball more, he would have been better than Young at the same point in their careers. What kept him from being as good as Young is now is Ellis being on the team” He would have been better is not the same thing as he is better. Case closed.
I disagree with the notion of him being better than Doncic but one thing that is clear is that the trade made by the Hawks and Mavs on draft day wasn't as ridiculous as the media and many so called experts made it out to be. Both organisations have benefited
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I disagree with the notion of him being better than Doncic but one thing that is clear is that the trade made by the Hawks and Mavs on draft day wasn't as ridiculous as the media and many so called experts made it out to be. Both organisations have benefited
Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz: @ThrowDemDarts yup agreed, hes good but nothing close to steph hes a budding superstar and scratching into top 10 talks, some might have him 9 or 10 He is better than Curry at the same age though. He's not the pure shooter that Steph is but it's clear he's modeled his game after him and he's more explosive than Curry at that age. You could see it at Oklahoma. He's smaller than Curry though. Curry is a legit 6'2-3". Trae is, what, 5'11"? 6'? That was the only doubt I had about him coming out of college but he has made me a believer the past couple seasons. I still take Luka because of his size and true point mentality. Trae isn't really that guy and at his size will never be an NBA defender. Better at what? Having the ball in his hands more and taking more shots? He's more explosive. I said this. What, is this Trae's 3rd season? Curry's game was still filling out. I was going to 20+ Warriors games a year in Curry's first few seasons. I'm a Warriors homer. Saw almost every game of him coming up. He was a better college player, better nba player. Came in to the league with efficiency that’s rarely seen from someone that early in their career. Only difference was Monta Ellis was the primary ball handler and took too many shots. Once they got rid of him Currys game didn’t get better they simply just gave him the ball more. He was always better than Trae. It’s asinine for anyone to say poor shooting Trae is a better player than Steph was at this age, lol. Now you are conceding that I am correct by basically saying “had Monte Ellis not been on the team, and had Curry gotten the ball more, he would have been better than Young at the same point in their careers. What kept him from being as good as Young is now is Ellis being on the team” He would have been better is not the same thing as he is better. Case closed.
Nah that’s not what I’m saying at all. I’m saying Curry was at better basketball player at this age he just didn’t touch the ball as much as young. Imagine saying if 22 year old Steph Curry was on this Hawks team in the Eastern conference instead of Trae young that they’d be worse!!
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Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:
Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz: @ThrowDemDarts yup agreed, hes good but nothing close to steph hes a budding superstar and scratching into top 10 talks, some might have him 9 or 10 He is better than Curry at the same age though. He's not the pure shooter that Steph is but it's clear he's modeled his game after him and he's more explosive than Curry at that age. You could see it at Oklahoma. He's smaller than Curry though. Curry is a legit 6'2-3". Trae is, what, 5'11"? 6'? That was the only doubt I had about him coming out of college but he has made me a believer the past couple seasons. I still take Luka because of his size and true point mentality. Trae isn't really that guy and at his size will never be an NBA defender. Better at what? Having the ball in his hands more and taking more shots? He's more explosive. I said this. What, is this Trae's 3rd season? Curry's game was still filling out. I was going to 20+ Warriors games a year in Curry's first few seasons. I'm a Warriors homer. Saw almost every game of him coming up. He was a better college player, better nba player. Came in to the league with efficiency that’s rarely seen from someone that early in their career. Only difference was Monta Ellis was the primary ball handler and took too many shots. Once they got rid of him Currys game didn’t get better they simply just gave him the ball more. He was always better than Trae. It’s asinine for anyone to say poor shooting Trae is a better player than Steph was at this age, lol. Now you are conceding that I am correct by basically saying “had Monte Ellis not been on the team, and had Curry gotten the ball more, he would have been better than Young at the same point in their careers. What kept him from being as good as Young is now is Ellis being on the team” He would have been better is not the same thing as he is better. Case closed.
Nah that’s not what I’m saying at all. I’m saying Curry was at better basketball player at this age he just didn’t touch the ball as much as young. Imagine saying if 22 year old Steph Curry was on this Hawks team in the Eastern conference instead of Trae young that they’d be worse!!
I disagree with the notion of him being better than Doncic but one thing that is clear is that the trade made by the Hawks and Mavs on draft day wasn't as ridiculous as the media and many so called experts made it out to be. Both organisations have benefited
The title of the thread is meant to start a discussion. But I agree, Doncic is better because he is bigger, stronger and more fun to watch.
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Quote Originally Posted by rod_steel:
I disagree with the notion of him being better than Doncic but one thing that is clear is that the trade made by the Hawks and Mavs on draft day wasn't as ridiculous as the media and many so called experts made it out to be. Both organisations have benefited
The title of the thread is meant to start a discussion. But I agree, Doncic is better because he is bigger, stronger and more fun to watch.
Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy: Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz: @ThrowDemDarts yup agreed, hes good but nothing close to steph hes a budding superstar and scratching into top 10 talks, some might have him 9 or 10 He is better than Curry at the same age though. He's not the pure shooter that Steph is but it's clear he's modeled his game after him and he's more explosive than Curry at that age. You could see it at Oklahoma. He's smaller than Curry though. Curry is a legit 6'2-3". Trae is, what, 5'11"? 6'? That was the only doubt I had about him coming out of college but he has made me a believer the past couple seasons. I still take Luka because of his size and true point mentality. Trae isn't really that guy and at his size will never be an NBA defender. Better at what? Having the ball in his hands more and taking more shots? He's more explosive. I said this. What, is this Trae's 3rd season? Curry's game was still filling out. I was going to 20+ Warriors games a year in Curry's first few seasons. I'm a Warriors homer. Saw almost every game of him coming up. He was a better college player, better nba player. Came in to the league with efficiency that’s rarely seen from someone that early in their career. Only difference was Monta Ellis was the primary ball handler and took too many shots. Once they got rid of him Currys game didn’t get better they simply just gave him the ball more. He was always better than Trae. It’s asinine for anyone to say poor shooting Trae is a better player than Steph was at this age, lol. Now you are conceding that I am correct by basically saying “had Monte Ellis not been on the team, and had Curry gotten the ball more, he would have been better than Young at the same point in their careers. What kept him from being as good as Young is now is Ellis being on the team” He would have been better is not the same thing as he is better. Case closed. Nah that’s not what I’m saying at all. I’m saying Curry was at better basketball player at this age he just didn’t touch the ball as much as young. Imagine saying if 22 year old Steph Curry was on this Hawks team in the Eastern conference instead of Trae young that they’d be worse!!
You are trying to win an argument based on a hypothetical, which is pure sophistry. We will never know if what you say is true because it didn’t happen. Curry, for whatever excuses you want to use, was not as good or impactful as Young, whether that be circumstances, as you speculate, or because Young’s game at the same age is more complete (which anyone with two eyes and half of brain can see).
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Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts:
Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy: Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz: @ThrowDemDarts yup agreed, hes good but nothing close to steph hes a budding superstar and scratching into top 10 talks, some might have him 9 or 10 He is better than Curry at the same age though. He's not the pure shooter that Steph is but it's clear he's modeled his game after him and he's more explosive than Curry at that age. You could see it at Oklahoma. He's smaller than Curry though. Curry is a legit 6'2-3". Trae is, what, 5'11"? 6'? That was the only doubt I had about him coming out of college but he has made me a believer the past couple seasons. I still take Luka because of his size and true point mentality. Trae isn't really that guy and at his size will never be an NBA defender. Better at what? Having the ball in his hands more and taking more shots? He's more explosive. I said this. What, is this Trae's 3rd season? Curry's game was still filling out. I was going to 20+ Warriors games a year in Curry's first few seasons. I'm a Warriors homer. Saw almost every game of him coming up. He was a better college player, better nba player. Came in to the league with efficiency that’s rarely seen from someone that early in their career. Only difference was Monta Ellis was the primary ball handler and took too many shots. Once they got rid of him Currys game didn’t get better they simply just gave him the ball more. He was always better than Trae. It’s asinine for anyone to say poor shooting Trae is a better player than Steph was at this age, lol. Now you are conceding that I am correct by basically saying “had Monte Ellis not been on the team, and had Curry gotten the ball more, he would have been better than Young at the same point in their careers. What kept him from being as good as Young is now is Ellis being on the team” He would have been better is not the same thing as he is better. Case closed. Nah that’s not what I’m saying at all. I’m saying Curry was at better basketball player at this age he just didn’t touch the ball as much as young. Imagine saying if 22 year old Steph Curry was on this Hawks team in the Eastern conference instead of Trae young that they’d be worse!!
You are trying to win an argument based on a hypothetical, which is pure sophistry. We will never know if what you say is true because it didn’t happen. Curry, for whatever excuses you want to use, was not as good or impactful as Young, whether that be circumstances, as you speculate, or because Young’s game at the same age is more complete (which anyone with two eyes and half of brain can see).
Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy: Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz: @ThrowDemDarts yup agreed, hes good but nothing close to steph hes a budding superstar and scratching into top 10 talks, some might have him 9 or 10 He is better than Curry at the same age though. He's not the pure shooter that Steph is but it's clear he's modeled his game after him and he's more explosive than Curry at that age. You could see it at Oklahoma. He's smaller than Curry though. Curry is a legit 6'2-3". Trae is, what, 5'11"? 6'? That was the only doubt I had about him coming out of college but he has made me a believer the past couple seasons. I still take Luka because of his size and true point mentality. Trae isn't really that guy and at his size will never be an NBA defender. Better at what? Having the ball in his hands more and taking more shots? He's more explosive. I said this. What, is this Trae's 3rd season? Curry's game was still filling out. I was going to 20+ Warriors games a year in Curry's first few seasons. I'm a Warriors homer. Saw almost every game of him coming up. He was a better college player, better nba player. Came in to the league with efficiency that’s rarely seen from someone that early in their career. Only difference was Monta Ellis was the primary ball handler and took too many shots. Once they got rid of him Currys game didn’t get better they simply just gave him the ball more. He was always better than Trae. It’s asinine for anyone to say poor shooting Trae is a better player than Steph was at this age, lol. Now you are conceding that I am correct by basically saying “had Monte Ellis not been on the team, and had Curry gotten the ball more, he would have been better than Young at the same point in their careers. What kept him from being as good as Young is now is Ellis being on the team” He would have been better is not the same thing as he is better. Case closed. Nah that’s not what I’m saying at all. I’m saying Curry was at better basketball player at this age he just didn’t touch the ball as much as young. Imagine saying if 22 year old Steph Curry was on this Hawks team in the Eastern conference instead of Trae young that they’d be worse!!
They would. The only thing Steph did better than Trae at 22 was shoot three pointers. Steph is my all-time favorite player. I'm just keeping it P.I.
TIME TO BRING BACK THE OBAMA CAGES!
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Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts:
Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy: Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz: @ThrowDemDarts yup agreed, hes good but nothing close to steph hes a budding superstar and scratching into top 10 talks, some might have him 9 or 10 He is better than Curry at the same age though. He's not the pure shooter that Steph is but it's clear he's modeled his game after him and he's more explosive than Curry at that age. You could see it at Oklahoma. He's smaller than Curry though. Curry is a legit 6'2-3". Trae is, what, 5'11"? 6'? That was the only doubt I had about him coming out of college but he has made me a believer the past couple seasons. I still take Luka because of his size and true point mentality. Trae isn't really that guy and at his size will never be an NBA defender. Better at what? Having the ball in his hands more and taking more shots? He's more explosive. I said this. What, is this Trae's 3rd season? Curry's game was still filling out. I was going to 20+ Warriors games a year in Curry's first few seasons. I'm a Warriors homer. Saw almost every game of him coming up. He was a better college player, better nba player. Came in to the league with efficiency that’s rarely seen from someone that early in their career. Only difference was Monta Ellis was the primary ball handler and took too many shots. Once they got rid of him Currys game didn’t get better they simply just gave him the ball more. He was always better than Trae. It’s asinine for anyone to say poor shooting Trae is a better player than Steph was at this age, lol. Now you are conceding that I am correct by basically saying “had Monte Ellis not been on the team, and had Curry gotten the ball more, he would have been better than Young at the same point in their careers. What kept him from being as good as Young is now is Ellis being on the team” He would have been better is not the same thing as he is better. Case closed. Nah that’s not what I’m saying at all. I’m saying Curry was at better basketball player at this age he just didn’t touch the ball as much as young. Imagine saying if 22 year old Steph Curry was on this Hawks team in the Eastern conference instead of Trae young that they’d be worse!!
They would. The only thing Steph did better than Trae at 22 was shoot three pointers. Steph is my all-time favorite player. I'm just keeping it P.I.
Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts: Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy: Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz: @ThrowDemDarts yup agreed, hes good but nothing close to steph hes a budding superstar and scratching into top 10 talks, some might have him 9 or 10 He is better than Curry at the same age though. He's not the pure shooter that Steph is but it's clear he's modeled his game after him and he's more explosive than Curry at that age. You could see it at Oklahoma. He's smaller than Curry though. Curry is a legit 6'2-3". Trae is, what, 5'11"? 6'? That was the only doubt I had about him coming out of college but he has made me a believer the past couple seasons. I still take Luka because of his size and true point mentality. Trae isn't really that guy and at his size will never be an NBA defender. Better at what? Having the ball in his hands more and taking more shots? He's more explosive. I said this. What, is this Trae's 3rd season? Curry's game was still filling out. I was going to 20+ Warriors games a year in Curry's first few seasons. I'm a Warriors homer. Saw almost every game of him coming up. He was a better college player, better nba player. Came in to the league with efficiency that’s rarely seen from someone that early in their career. Only difference was Monta Ellis was the primary ball handler and took too many shots. Once they got rid of him Currys game didn’t get better they simply just gave him the ball more. He was always better than Trae. It’s asinine for anyone to say poor shooting Trae is a better player than Steph was at this age, lol. Now you are conceding that I am correct by basically saying “had Monte Ellis not been on the team, and had Curry gotten the ball more, he would have been better than Young at the same point in their careers. What kept him from being as good as Young is now is Ellis being on the team” He would have been better is not the same thing as he is better. Case closed. Nah that’s not what I’m saying at all. I’m saying Curry was at better basketball player at this age he just didn’t touch the ball as much as young. Imagine saying if 22 year old Steph Curry was on this Hawks team in the Eastern conference instead of Trae young that they’d be worse!! They would. The only thing Steph did better than Trae at 22 was shoot three pointers. Steph is my all-time favorite player. I'm just keeping it P.I.
You guys are hilarious
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Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:
Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts: Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy: Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz: @ThrowDemDarts yup agreed, hes good but nothing close to steph hes a budding superstar and scratching into top 10 talks, some might have him 9 or 10 He is better than Curry at the same age though. He's not the pure shooter that Steph is but it's clear he's modeled his game after him and he's more explosive than Curry at that age. You could see it at Oklahoma. He's smaller than Curry though. Curry is a legit 6'2-3". Trae is, what, 5'11"? 6'? That was the only doubt I had about him coming out of college but he has made me a believer the past couple seasons. I still take Luka because of his size and true point mentality. Trae isn't really that guy and at his size will never be an NBA defender. Better at what? Having the ball in his hands more and taking more shots? He's more explosive. I said this. What, is this Trae's 3rd season? Curry's game was still filling out. I was going to 20+ Warriors games a year in Curry's first few seasons. I'm a Warriors homer. Saw almost every game of him coming up. He was a better college player, better nba player. Came in to the league with efficiency that’s rarely seen from someone that early in their career. Only difference was Monta Ellis was the primary ball handler and took too many shots. Once they got rid of him Currys game didn’t get better they simply just gave him the ball more. He was always better than Trae. It’s asinine for anyone to say poor shooting Trae is a better player than Steph was at this age, lol. Now you are conceding that I am correct by basically saying “had Monte Ellis not been on the team, and had Curry gotten the ball more, he would have been better than Young at the same point in their careers. What kept him from being as good as Young is now is Ellis being on the team” He would have been better is not the same thing as he is better. Case closed. Nah that’s not what I’m saying at all. I’m saying Curry was at better basketball player at this age he just didn’t touch the ball as much as young. Imagine saying if 22 year old Steph Curry was on this Hawks team in the Eastern conference instead of Trae young that they’d be worse!! They would. The only thing Steph did better than Trae at 22 was shoot three pointers. Steph is my all-time favorite player. I'm just keeping it P.I.
Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts: Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy: Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz: @ThrowDemDarts yup agreed, hes good but nothing close to steph hes a budding superstar and scratching into top 10 talks, some might have him 9 or 10 He is better than Curry at the same age though. He's not the pure shooter that Steph is but it's clear he's modeled his game after him and he's more explosive than Curry at that age. You could see it at Oklahoma. He's smaller than Curry though. Curry is a legit 6'2-3". Trae is, what, 5'11"? 6'? That was the only doubt I had about him coming out of college but he has made me a believer the past couple seasons. I still take Luka because of his size and true point mentality. Trae isn't really that guy and at his size will never be an NBA defender. Better at what? Having the ball in his hands more and taking more shots? He's more explosive. I said this. What, is this Trae's 3rd season? Curry's game was still filling out. I was going to 20+ Warriors games a year in Curry's first few seasons. I'm a Warriors homer. Saw almost every game of him coming up. He was a better college player, better nba player. Came in to the league with efficiency that’s rarely seen from someone that early in their career. Only difference was Monta Ellis was the primary ball handler and took too many shots. Once they got rid of him Currys game didn’t get better they simply just gave him the ball more. He was always better than Trae. It’s asinine for anyone to say poor shooting Trae is a better player than Steph was at this age, lol. Now you are conceding that I am correct by basically saying “had Monte Ellis not been on the team, and had Curry gotten the ball more, he would have been better than Young at the same point in their careers. What kept him from being as good as Young is now is Ellis being on the team” He would have been better is not the same thing as he is better. Case closed. Nah that’s not what I’m saying at all. I’m saying Curry was at better basketball player at this age he just didn’t touch the ball as much as young. Imagine saying if 22 year old Steph Curry was on this Hawks team in the Eastern conference instead of Trae young that they’d be worse!! You are trying to win an argument based on a hypothetical, which is pure sophistry. We will never know if what you say is true because it didn’t happen. Curry, for whatever excuses you want to use, was not as good or impactful as Young, whether that be circumstances, as you speculate, or because Young’s game at the same age is more complete (which anyone with two eyes and half of brain can see).
What do you mean not as good? At 22 Curry shot had an insane 48/44/93 line. He’s the most efficient and skilled offensive player in nba history and you’re telling me Trae is better at this age, lol.
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Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:
Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts: Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy: Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz: @ThrowDemDarts yup agreed, hes good but nothing close to steph hes a budding superstar and scratching into top 10 talks, some might have him 9 or 10 He is better than Curry at the same age though. He's not the pure shooter that Steph is but it's clear he's modeled his game after him and he's more explosive than Curry at that age. You could see it at Oklahoma. He's smaller than Curry though. Curry is a legit 6'2-3". Trae is, what, 5'11"? 6'? That was the only doubt I had about him coming out of college but he has made me a believer the past couple seasons. I still take Luka because of his size and true point mentality. Trae isn't really that guy and at his size will never be an NBA defender. Better at what? Having the ball in his hands more and taking more shots? He's more explosive. I said this. What, is this Trae's 3rd season? Curry's game was still filling out. I was going to 20+ Warriors games a year in Curry's first few seasons. I'm a Warriors homer. Saw almost every game of him coming up. He was a better college player, better nba player. Came in to the league with efficiency that’s rarely seen from someone that early in their career. Only difference was Monta Ellis was the primary ball handler and took too many shots. Once they got rid of him Currys game didn’t get better they simply just gave him the ball more. He was always better than Trae. It’s asinine for anyone to say poor shooting Trae is a better player than Steph was at this age, lol. Now you are conceding that I am correct by basically saying “had Monte Ellis not been on the team, and had Curry gotten the ball more, he would have been better than Young at the same point in their careers. What kept him from being as good as Young is now is Ellis being on the team” He would have been better is not the same thing as he is better. Case closed. Nah that’s not what I’m saying at all. I’m saying Curry was at better basketball player at this age he just didn’t touch the ball as much as young. Imagine saying if 22 year old Steph Curry was on this Hawks team in the Eastern conference instead of Trae young that they’d be worse!! You are trying to win an argument based on a hypothetical, which is pure sophistry. We will never know if what you say is true because it didn’t happen. Curry, for whatever excuses you want to use, was not as good or impactful as Young, whether that be circumstances, as you speculate, or because Young’s game at the same age is more complete (which anyone with two eyes and half of brain can see).
What do you mean not as good? At 22 Curry shot had an insane 48/44/93 line. He’s the most efficient and skilled offensive player in nba history and you’re telling me Trae is better at this age, lol.
I think the break down is i'm an Oakland homer, BB has lived in the Bay for years, we were actually watching Steph Curry at 22. You clearly were not. You're remembering the Curry that first burst onto the national scene, then looking at his shooting percentages and saying, "See, if he would've gotten more touches.... He wasn't getting more touches because his game hadn't filled out and his body was weak. His ankles were bad. He was not the player you are thinking of. He shot great. He always has. He couldn't get his own shot consistantly though.
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@ThrowDemDarts
I think the break down is i'm an Oakland homer, BB has lived in the Bay for years, we were actually watching Steph Curry at 22. You clearly were not. You're remembering the Curry that first burst onto the national scene, then looking at his shooting percentages and saying, "See, if he would've gotten more touches.... He wasn't getting more touches because his game hadn't filled out and his body was weak. His ankles were bad. He was not the player you are thinking of. He shot great. He always has. He couldn't get his own shot consistantly though.
@ThrowDemDarts I think the break down is i'm an Oakland homer, BB has lived in the Bay for years, we were actually watching Steph Curry at 22. You clearly were not. You're remembering the Curry that first burst onto the national scene, then looking at his shooting percentages and saying, "See, if he would've gotten more touches.... He wasn't getting more touches because his game hadn't filled out and his body was weak. His ankles were bad. He was not the player you are thinking of. He shot great. He always has. He couldn't get his own shot consistantly though.
I watched Curry throughout college, in the pros, all the way til now. You being a warriors fan has no significance in this argument. Curry was a much better basketball player at 22 years old. It’s not even close and hilarious you literally said the Hawks would be worse off with him than Trae.
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Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:
@ThrowDemDarts I think the break down is i'm an Oakland homer, BB has lived in the Bay for years, we were actually watching Steph Curry at 22. You clearly were not. You're remembering the Curry that first burst onto the national scene, then looking at his shooting percentages and saying, "See, if he would've gotten more touches.... He wasn't getting more touches because his game hadn't filled out and his body was weak. His ankles were bad. He was not the player you are thinking of. He shot great. He always has. He couldn't get his own shot consistantly though.
I watched Curry throughout college, in the pros, all the way til now. You being a warriors fan has no significance in this argument. Curry was a much better basketball player at 22 years old. It’s not even close and hilarious you literally said the Hawks would be worse off with him than Trae.
22 year old curry, Bogdanovic, Huerter, Collins, and Gallo. Oh my lawwwd. They’d be one of the best teams in the nba. Traes Allen iverson like shooting is what hurts them.
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22 year old curry, Bogdanovic, Huerter, Collins, and Gallo. Oh my lawwwd. They’d be one of the best teams in the nba. Traes Allen iverson like shooting is what hurts them.
Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: @ThrowDemDarts I think the break down is i'm an Oakland homer, BB has lived in the Bay for years, we were actually watching Steph Curry at 22. You clearly were not. You're remembering the Curry that first burst onto the national scene, then looking at his shooting percentages and saying, "See, if he would've gotten more touches.... He wasn't getting more touches because his game hadn't filled out and his body was weak. His ankles were bad. He was not the player you are thinking of. He shot great. He always has. He couldn't get his own shot consistantly though. I watched Curry throughout college, in the pros, all the way til now. You being a warriors fan has no significance in this argument. Curry was a much better basketball player at 22 years old. It’s not even close and hilarious you literally said the Hawks would be worse off with him than Trae.
You're full of shit. You clearly watched his NCAA tourney run, maybe, and started paying attention to Steph again when the Warriors started winning. I was watching every single game of his young career. Every possession. Do you even live on the West Coast? I'll bet you'll say no but you were staying up til 2 in the morning and using your NBA package to watch the garbage as Warriors. Even if on the West Coast, I promise you weren't watching every Warrior game. If you were, you wouldn't be talking this madness.
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Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts:
Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: @ThrowDemDarts I think the break down is i'm an Oakland homer, BB has lived in the Bay for years, we were actually watching Steph Curry at 22. You clearly were not. You're remembering the Curry that first burst onto the national scene, then looking at his shooting percentages and saying, "See, if he would've gotten more touches.... He wasn't getting more touches because his game hadn't filled out and his body was weak. His ankles were bad. He was not the player you are thinking of. He shot great. He always has. He couldn't get his own shot consistantly though. I watched Curry throughout college, in the pros, all the way til now. You being a warriors fan has no significance in this argument. Curry was a much better basketball player at 22 years old. It’s not even close and hilarious you literally said the Hawks would be worse off with him than Trae.
You're full of shit. You clearly watched his NCAA tourney run, maybe, and started paying attention to Steph again when the Warriors started winning. I was watching every single game of his young career. Every possession. Do you even live on the West Coast? I'll bet you'll say no but you were staying up til 2 in the morning and using your NBA package to watch the garbage as Warriors. Even if on the West Coast, I promise you weren't watching every Warrior game. If you were, you wouldn't be talking this madness.
I do live on the west, watched him plenty in college before the tourney run. Also watched Trae a lot in college. Steph was better as an 18 year old, 19 year old, 20 year old, etc etc etc. To say low efficiency Trae is better than Steph at this age is one of the dumber takes I’ve heard, and have you seen this site? There are a lot of dumb takes. 22 y/o Steph would take this Hawks team with their other efficient shooters to a whole new level. Trae better than Steph, lmao.
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@StumpTownStu
I do live on the west, watched him plenty in college before the tourney run. Also watched Trae a lot in college. Steph was better as an 18 year old, 19 year old, 20 year old, etc etc etc. To say low efficiency Trae is better than Steph at this age is one of the dumber takes I’ve heard, and have you seen this site? There are a lot of dumb takes. 22 y/o Steph would take this Hawks team with their other efficient shooters to a whole new level. Trae better than Steph, lmao.
@StumpTownStu I do live on the west, watched him plenty in college before the tourney run. Also watched Trae a lot in college. Steph was better as an 18 year old, 19 year old, 20 year old, etc etc etc. To say low efficiency Trae is better than Steph at this age is one of the dumber takes I’ve heard, and have you seen this site? There are a lot of dumb takes. 22 y/o Steph would take this Hawks team with their other efficient shooters to a whole new level. Trae better than Steph, lmao.
Like I said, I watched almost every minute of almost every game of Steph's career. You clearly didn't.
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Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts:
@StumpTownStu I do live on the west, watched him plenty in college before the tourney run. Also watched Trae a lot in college. Steph was better as an 18 year old, 19 year old, 20 year old, etc etc etc. To say low efficiency Trae is better than Steph at this age is one of the dumber takes I’ve heard, and have you seen this site? There are a lot of dumb takes. 22 y/o Steph would take this Hawks team with their other efficient shooters to a whole new level. Trae better than Steph, lmao.
Like I said, I watched almost every minute of almost every game of Steph's career. You clearly didn't.
Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts: @StumpTownStu I do live on the west, watched him plenty in college before the tourney run. Also watched Trae a lot in college. Steph was better as an 18 year old, 19 year old, 20 year old, etc etc etc. To say low efficiency Trae is better than Steph at this age is one of the dumber takes I’ve heard, and have you seen this site? There are a lot of dumb takes. 22 y/o Steph would take this Hawks team with their other efficient shooters to a whole new level. Trae better than Steph, lmao. Like I said, I watched almost every minute of almost every game of Steph's career. You clearly didn't.
Trae's not a better defender, he's not an efficient shooter... what the heck does he do that is better than Curry? Curry was 3rd in the NBA in 3pt % and had a shooting line of 48/44/93 as a 22 year old... and you're telling me low efficiency Trae Young is better??
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Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:
Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts: @StumpTownStu I do live on the west, watched him plenty in college before the tourney run. Also watched Trae a lot in college. Steph was better as an 18 year old, 19 year old, 20 year old, etc etc etc. To say low efficiency Trae is better than Steph at this age is one of the dumber takes I’ve heard, and have you seen this site? There are a lot of dumb takes. 22 y/o Steph would take this Hawks team with their other efficient shooters to a whole new level. Trae better than Steph, lmao. Like I said, I watched almost every minute of almost every game of Steph's career. You clearly didn't.
Trae's not a better defender, he's not an efficient shooter... what the heck does he do that is better than Curry? Curry was 3rd in the NBA in 3pt % and had a shooting line of 48/44/93 as a 22 year old... and you're telling me low efficiency Trae Young is better??
Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts: @StumpTownStu I do live on the west, watched him plenty in college before the tourney run. Also watched Trae a lot in college. Steph was better as an 18 year old, 19 year old, 20 year old, etc etc etc. To say low efficiency Trae is better than Steph at this age is one of the dumber takes I’ve heard, and have you seen this site? There are a lot of dumb takes. 22 y/o Steph would take this Hawks team with their other efficient shooters to a whole new level. Trae better than Steph, lmao. Like I said, I watched almost every minute of almost every game of Steph's career. You clearly didn't. Trae's not a better defender, he's not an efficient shooter... what the heck does he do that is better than Curry? Curry was 3rd in the NBA in 3pt % and had a shooting line of 48/44/93 as a 22 year old... and you're telling me low efficiency Trae Young is better??
Again, you're posting stats you pulled of the internet but clearly didn't watch the games. Curry was not a better defender, at 22, as a rookie in the NBA nor at 24-25 in his 3rd season. Curry's not even a good defender now. Again, he's my all-time favorite player but guys that size are rarely good defenders. They can be pesky at best. You didn't watch the games so you keep posting shooting percentage but Curry wasn't better at getting his own shot. Wasn't a finisher at the rim. His handle wasn't what it is now. He turned the ball over a ton. Was a defensive liability. Wasn't the passer he is today. This is all stuff he got better at to become the player he is today. He wasn't that guy at 22. He was a zone busting jump shooter. He couldn't get his own shot like he does today. He was a completely different player at 22.
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Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts:
Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts: @StumpTownStu I do live on the west, watched him plenty in college before the tourney run. Also watched Trae a lot in college. Steph was better as an 18 year old, 19 year old, 20 year old, etc etc etc. To say low efficiency Trae is better than Steph at this age is one of the dumber takes I’ve heard, and have you seen this site? There are a lot of dumb takes. 22 y/o Steph would take this Hawks team with their other efficient shooters to a whole new level. Trae better than Steph, lmao. Like I said, I watched almost every minute of almost every game of Steph's career. You clearly didn't. Trae's not a better defender, he's not an efficient shooter... what the heck does he do that is better than Curry? Curry was 3rd in the NBA in 3pt % and had a shooting line of 48/44/93 as a 22 year old... and you're telling me low efficiency Trae Young is better??
Again, you're posting stats you pulled of the internet but clearly didn't watch the games. Curry was not a better defender, at 22, as a rookie in the NBA nor at 24-25 in his 3rd season. Curry's not even a good defender now. Again, he's my all-time favorite player but guys that size are rarely good defenders. They can be pesky at best. You didn't watch the games so you keep posting shooting percentage but Curry wasn't better at getting his own shot. Wasn't a finisher at the rim. His handle wasn't what it is now. He turned the ball over a ton. Was a defensive liability. Wasn't the passer he is today. This is all stuff he got better at to become the player he is today. He wasn't that guy at 22. He was a zone busting jump shooter. He couldn't get his own shot like he does today. He was a completely different player at 22.
Like I said, you clearly weren't watching games. That's why all you can do is point to shooting percentages. Look, i'm no fan of Trae Young. I disliked him in college. Steph is my all-time favorite player. I watched just about every minute of his long career. You're full of shit if you say the same. You keep saying, "If he had more attempts." Your whole argument is based on "if". I'm telling you he didn't get more attempts because he wasn't able to get his shots like that. He was a spot up jump shooter.Trae is somehow even stronger at this age. He's more athletic. He's better at finishing at the rim, which means he also shoots more FTs, flopping or not. He fouls less. Curry use to get whistled a ton. He still does. He has a waaaay better turnover to assist ratio. He is more of a true point as far as passing/facilitating. Curry shoots better. No shit. He's greatest shooter of all time. I can't believe i'm having this argument who probably hasn't seen as many Steph Curry games on TV as i've seen in person. I'm a diehard Warriors fan. I've seen almost every game of this man's career. You don't know what you're talking about. Trae Young will never be Steph but he's better at 22 (Steph's rookie year, his 3rd). And he had a better 3rd year.
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@ThrowDemDarts
Like I said, you clearly weren't watching games. That's why all you can do is point to shooting percentages. Look, i'm no fan of Trae Young. I disliked him in college. Steph is my all-time favorite player. I watched just about every minute of his long career. You're full of shit if you say the same. You keep saying, "If he had more attempts." Your whole argument is based on "if". I'm telling you he didn't get more attempts because he wasn't able to get his shots like that. He was a spot up jump shooter.Trae is somehow even stronger at this age. He's more athletic. He's better at finishing at the rim, which means he also shoots more FTs, flopping or not. He fouls less. Curry use to get whistled a ton. He still does. He has a waaaay better turnover to assist ratio. He is more of a true point as far as passing/facilitating. Curry shoots better. No shit. He's greatest shooter of all time. I can't believe i'm having this argument who probably hasn't seen as many Steph Curry games on TV as i've seen in person. I'm a diehard Warriors fan. I've seen almost every game of this man's career. You don't know what you're talking about. Trae Young will never be Steph but he's better at 22 (Steph's rookie year, his 3rd). And he had a better 3rd year.
Anthony Morrow was 48% and 47% his rookie year. I guess he's better than Steph AND Trae. If only he had more touches. You probably don't even know who Anthony Morrow is.
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@ThrowDemDarts
Anthony Morrow was 48% and 47% his rookie year. I guess he's better than Steph AND Trae. If only he had more touches. You probably don't even know who Anthony Morrow is.
No comparison...Trae Young is NOT a good 3 point shooter...Dude is average if anything...Even FG%....Curry Is ELITE 3point shooting...Best shooter possibly ever...Trae Young is NOT a great Shooter..Stats back up..
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No comparison...Trae Young is NOT a good 3 point shooter...Dude is average if anything...Even FG%....Curry Is ELITE 3point shooting...Best shooter possibly ever...Trae Young is NOT a great Shooter..Stats back up..
No use arguing with this guy. He clearly has a bias against Young. Maybe he lost him money, who knows. Curry is an all-time great and I can’t see anyone touching his records, but Young has a more complete/mature game today than Curry at 22. He may never reach Curry’s status, not many will, but he has the game to make his team a future contender.
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@StumpTownStu
No use arguing with this guy. He clearly has a bias against Young. Maybe he lost him money, who knows. Curry is an all-time great and I can’t see anyone touching his records, but Young has a more complete/mature game today than Curry at 22. He may never reach Curry’s status, not many will, but he has the game to make his team a future contender.
No comparison...Trae Young is NOT a good 3 point shooter...Dude is average if anything...Even FG%....Curry Is ELITE 3point shooting...Best shooter possibly ever...Trae Young is NOT a great Shooter..Stats back up..
Here comes another troll who has no idea what we are discussing.
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Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:
No comparison...Trae Young is NOT a good 3 point shooter...Dude is average if anything...Even FG%....Curry Is ELITE 3point shooting...Best shooter possibly ever...Trae Young is NOT a great Shooter..Stats back up..
Here comes another troll who has no idea what we are discussing.
Yes BB..When noone agrees with you and your conspiracy theories...Yes we are trolls. Waiting for you to post an internet link on some random publication stating the comparison of Trae and Curry........U must watch a lot of TV
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@begginerboy
Yes BB..When noone agrees with you and your conspiracy theories...Yes we are trolls. Waiting for you to post an internet link on some random publication stating the comparison of Trae and Curry........U must watch a lot of TV
@begginerboy Yes BB..When noone agrees with you and your conspiracy theories...Yes we are trolls. Waiting for you to post an internet link on some random publication stating the comparison of Trae and Curry........U must watch a lot of TV
Congratulations, dumb ass!!! You just proved Curry was a better shooter at 22. As if that’s all there is to playing basketball. What an absolute moron.
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Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:
@begginerboy Yes BB..When noone agrees with you and your conspiracy theories...Yes we are trolls. Waiting for you to post an internet link on some random publication stating the comparison of Trae and Curry........U must watch a lot of TV
Congratulations, dumb ass!!! You just proved Curry was a better shooter at 22. As if that’s all there is to playing basketball. What an absolute moron.
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