Pablo - Madrid to advance is now at -175. Wanted to play it last at at -160 but didn't pull trigger.
They won first leg 1-0 I believe. So what needs to happen for them not to lose? Wouldn't a draw 1-1 advance them? 2-1 even?
Sorry for my ignorance on the sport. I trust you will give me correct answers.
Thanks
1-0 would result in 2 times 15 mins extra time and (possibly) penalties. Any other 1 goal difference defeat or better (tie or win) would advance Real. I took it quite big yesterday, since I don't seem them losing by 2 nor do I not see them not scoring.
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Quote Originally Posted by BrickShot:
Pablo - Madrid to advance is now at -175. Wanted to play it last at at -160 but didn't pull trigger.
They won first leg 1-0 I believe. So what needs to happen for them not to lose? Wouldn't a draw 1-1 advance them? 2-1 even?
Sorry for my ignorance on the sport. I trust you will give me correct answers.
Thanks
1-0 would result in 2 times 15 mins extra time and (possibly) penalties. Any other 1 goal difference defeat or better (tie or win) would advance Real. I took it quite big yesterday, since I don't seem them losing by 2 nor do I not see them not scoring.
Man so much of the public on the warriors. You guys think the clips are a play? If they remove sterling I think the clips are the play depending on what they do
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Man so much of the public on the warriors. You guys think the clips are a play? If they remove sterling I think the clips are the play depending on what they do
Morning to the sty.... Really like TB bats against Lackey today... Current Rays hit him at a .307 average... ? is can Bedard be trusted...bad numbers so far, but has held Red Sox to .218 average. I don't have TT option, so what to do? Over seems like the best option available, and hope Bedard keeps sh*tting the bed....
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Morning to the sty.... Really like TB bats against Lackey today... Current Rays hit him at a .307 average... ? is can Bedard be trusted...bad numbers so far, but has held Red Sox to .218 average. I don't have TT option, so what to do? Over seems like the best option available, and hope Bedard keeps sh*tting the bed....
1-0 would result in 2 times 15 mins extra time and (possibly) penalties. Any other 1 goal difference defeat or better (tie or win) would advance Real. I took it quite big yesterday, since I don't seem them losing by 2 nor do I not see them not scoring.
Thanks Pablo. I am gonna bet them to advance and at +1.
As for Clips, I am gonna play Warriors at +6 and mL. Going to lock them in now before this press conference.
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Quote Originally Posted by Pablo2k1:
1-0 would result in 2 times 15 mins extra time and (possibly) penalties. Any other 1 goal difference defeat or better (tie or win) would advance Real. I took it quite big yesterday, since I don't seem them losing by 2 nor do I not see them not scoring.
Thanks Pablo. I am gonna bet them to advance and at +1.
As for Clips, I am gonna play Warriors at +6 and mL. Going to lock them in now before this press conference.
Man so much of the public on the warriors. You guys think the clips are a play? If they remove sterling I think the clips are the play depending on what they do
I'm just gonna play GS tt over.
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Quote Originally Posted by Hoops1487:
Man so much of the public on the warriors. You guys think the clips are a play? If they remove sterling I think the clips are the play depending on what they do
I think there is too much uncertainty in the Clips/Warriors game to touch it...better options out there.
Like the Grizz +6.5. Outside the 1H of Gm 1, the Grizz have been the much better team this whole series, it's a small miracle that OKC has tied it up 2-2...i think that is too many points for OKC to be laying the way they have looked vs OKC, offense just seems out of sync vs this team.
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I think there is too much uncertainty in the Clips/Warriors game to touch it...better options out there.
Like the Grizz +6.5. Outside the 1H of Gm 1, the Grizz have been the much better team this whole series, it's a small miracle that OKC has tied it up 2-2...i think that is too many points for OKC to be laying the way they have looked vs OKC, offense just seems out of sync vs this team.
The series total opened at 178.... then it went to 179-180 on the 2nd game.... to 181 and 182.... now its 183.
They are adjusting but not by much..... SAme shiit with SA Dallas.... people bangin the over thinkg both teams score over 100 easily as they usually do.... over uinder went from 204 down to 201 down to 200 by game time.... and it went way under 93-89 score.....
Expect the bulls limit FG attempts.... Washington puts up like 83 or something liek that a game.... Bull get them down to 77-78 plus lower their FG%..... 83-78.... thats 5 less shots taken than washington usually takes.... that's at least 10 points lower right off the bat..... they drop their FG% from 46 down to 42% you can subtract another 5-8 points.... that's about 15-20 points (roughly) from washington's usual 100-102 point average..... which leaves them in the mid to high 80s......
This is what chicago needs for them to win this game.... the only problem is washington doens't mind playing a grind out and tehy can pull a game out in the 80s as well. couple that with the fact that the bulls wear themselves out playing this kinda stupid defense they get gassed at hte end of the game.....
I'm rolling with the Wiz no matter what here.... not even feckin with the total.... they can win any type of game Chicago wants to try to push.... and If the Wiz execute their game plan and blow it open its an easy SU win..... speed kills.... thjis team is going toeh conference finals....
I already made a thread about but half this forum is full of fruit cakes that dont know shiit about ball.... Wiz has an easy path to the ECF.... Indy will get blown away by the Wiz....ATL will put iup a fight but get smoked in 5 or 6 games.... that leaves them with brooklyn or Miami.... toronto aint' getting passed miami if they beat brookly.... and if Brooklyn plays miamia they gotta shot against them.... not only that they will grind out, wear down, and beat up miami to the point where Miami might be really tired..... Great match up to play a young super fast wiz team...... if brooklyn gets through Miami its not gauranteed they beat the Wiz.... Wiz is a problem and theyre learning on the fly..... this shiit happens..... you're watching a changing of the guard.... on both East and West coasts.....
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The series total opened at 178.... then it went to 179-180 on the 2nd game.... to 181 and 182.... now its 183.
They are adjusting but not by much..... SAme shiit with SA Dallas.... people bangin the over thinkg both teams score over 100 easily as they usually do.... over uinder went from 204 down to 201 down to 200 by game time.... and it went way under 93-89 score.....
Expect the bulls limit FG attempts.... Washington puts up like 83 or something liek that a game.... Bull get them down to 77-78 plus lower their FG%..... 83-78.... thats 5 less shots taken than washington usually takes.... that's at least 10 points lower right off the bat..... they drop their FG% from 46 down to 42% you can subtract another 5-8 points.... that's about 15-20 points (roughly) from washington's usual 100-102 point average..... which leaves them in the mid to high 80s......
This is what chicago needs for them to win this game.... the only problem is washington doens't mind playing a grind out and tehy can pull a game out in the 80s as well. couple that with the fact that the bulls wear themselves out playing this kinda stupid defense they get gassed at hte end of the game.....
I'm rolling with the Wiz no matter what here.... not even feckin with the total.... they can win any type of game Chicago wants to try to push.... and If the Wiz execute their game plan and blow it open its an easy SU win..... speed kills.... thjis team is going toeh conference finals....
I already made a thread about but half this forum is full of fruit cakes that dont know shiit about ball.... Wiz has an easy path to the ECF.... Indy will get blown away by the Wiz....ATL will put iup a fight but get smoked in 5 or 6 games.... that leaves them with brooklyn or Miami.... toronto aint' getting passed miami if they beat brookly.... and if Brooklyn plays miamia they gotta shot against them.... not only that they will grind out, wear down, and beat up miami to the point where Miami might be really tired..... Great match up to play a young super fast wiz team...... if brooklyn gets through Miami its not gauranteed they beat the Wiz.... Wiz is a problem and theyre learning on the fly..... this shiit happens..... you're watching a changing of the guard.... on both East and West coasts.....
The game is at night local time for me, I am not even going to watch it
... watching it is not going to determine the score. I am not sure why I
took this bet, I do feel confident about it, but like every bet it has 2
possible ways it could end up either losing or winning!
The
bookmaker I placed the bet with is now offering 1.88 on the OVER (was
1.96) so I'm considering of whether to take another same size bet on the
OVER and in the worse case lose 12% of $800 (which is almost $100) or
just go with those "chances".
This is how sick gambling is for me. I
am not going to sweat it nor going to cry if I lose or dance if I win
... gambling for me is something I despise and trying to avoid ...
I dont wanna sway you away from your bet. I was just saying that if your basing the under on bulls defense is going to show up all the sudden (which it might) after 4 games of being ran on. their gameplan obv will still be defense that is their way of play. But they also know they gotta score and keep up with wiz pace or they are gonna be trailing as usual from the get go and playing chase the whole game. like I also said earlier my two plays on this game are the over 45 and over 89. and the same reason the under hits will be the same reason the TT's dont hit which is if Wiz have a shitt game and beat their selves and dont land their shots. and believe me I know this team they are capable of having a bad game but thats focusing on all the negatives.
I rather look at this game like this that obv both want it bad people always talk about the team being up against the corner like its a given they come out and win cause they dont wanna get knocked out but how did those teams get in that position because most of the time they are just not the better team. what will bulls do ? what will be so different tonight? have they not tryed everything yet or is their some secret gameplan they use tonight? the only way bulls win or the game goes under is if WIZ beat them selfs.
back to my two plays the over 45 and over 89 the over 45 1H will be nailbiter thibs has spoke and so have the players about one of the main probs is letting wiz comeout and get the lead 1H they will be fighting to get that lead and I know I keep overlooking bulls D but their D is capable of shutting Wiz down and this might be the game that they do that we will see. but I also got to ask if thats the case why has it not been a factor in this series? and if so what about their offense can they outscore Wiz can play some solid defense as well they have been limiting the bulls.
if ariza and beal can get into rythm and start knocking down three's and nene controlling underneath and gortat hitting his fadeaways and hooks wall at the top moving the ball its a wrap for bulls and both my TT's hit.
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Quote Originally Posted by dontknowhowtobe:
The game is at night local time for me, I am not even going to watch it
... watching it is not going to determine the score. I am not sure why I
took this bet, I do feel confident about it, but like every bet it has 2
possible ways it could end up either losing or winning!
The
bookmaker I placed the bet with is now offering 1.88 on the OVER (was
1.96) so I'm considering of whether to take another same size bet on the
OVER and in the worse case lose 12% of $800 (which is almost $100) or
just go with those "chances".
This is how sick gambling is for me. I
am not going to sweat it nor going to cry if I lose or dance if I win
... gambling for me is something I despise and trying to avoid ...
I dont wanna sway you away from your bet. I was just saying that if your basing the under on bulls defense is going to show up all the sudden (which it might) after 4 games of being ran on. their gameplan obv will still be defense that is their way of play. But they also know they gotta score and keep up with wiz pace or they are gonna be trailing as usual from the get go and playing chase the whole game. like I also said earlier my two plays on this game are the over 45 and over 89. and the same reason the under hits will be the same reason the TT's dont hit which is if Wiz have a shitt game and beat their selves and dont land their shots. and believe me I know this team they are capable of having a bad game but thats focusing on all the negatives.
I rather look at this game like this that obv both want it bad people always talk about the team being up against the corner like its a given they come out and win cause they dont wanna get knocked out but how did those teams get in that position because most of the time they are just not the better team. what will bulls do ? what will be so different tonight? have they not tryed everything yet or is their some secret gameplan they use tonight? the only way bulls win or the game goes under is if WIZ beat them selfs.
back to my two plays the over 45 and over 89 the over 45 1H will be nailbiter thibs has spoke and so have the players about one of the main probs is letting wiz comeout and get the lead 1H they will be fighting to get that lead and I know I keep overlooking bulls D but their D is capable of shutting Wiz down and this might be the game that they do that we will see. but I also got to ask if thats the case why has it not been a factor in this series? and if so what about their offense can they outscore Wiz can play some solid defense as well they have been limiting the bulls.
if ariza and beal can get into rythm and start knocking down three's and nene controlling underneath and gortat hitting his fadeaways and hooks wall at the top moving the ball its a wrap for bulls and both my TT's hit.
All previous 4 games went over. Current series is 3-1 for Washington.
Chicago would do its utmost to clinch and stay in the playoffs - so this time you can expect lots of defense.
Also 4 times ice cream doesn't mean the 5th is the same.
I
am trying to so hard to avoid gambling in general but I actually placed
$800 on the UNDER 183.5 tonight. I am quite confident about it, only
the refs or rigged stuff can ruin it.
THIS i highlighted is classic handicapping TRAP thinking....it supposes the bulls werent really trying to defend the first 4....the bulls were indeed trying to defend.... their numbers on defense that out them near the top of the league were a composite of playing against all teams, even those that dont score a lot...such as charlotte and memphis...and others....if you extrapolated out the games of just the good offensive teams the bulls played, you would probably see the bulls were not really a very good defensive team. the bulls do not have the players to match up with the wiz. at guards...2 young phenoms...beal and wall and behind them, martell webster, a player that could start for most NBA teams. the bulls dont even start their best guard augustine....gortat is bigger and stronger than boozer, and at this stage of his career, a better player....whats boozer done in the series?. in 4 games he has 11,5,14, and 8...a 9 1/2 pt avg... trevor arizza raining threes all over...the bulls barely know what a 3 is..did you know the wizards score 10 more pts a game off 3s than the bulls?.... the bulls will have to score to keep up with the wiz, which means a faster game, especially in 2 H.. and as far as being rigged. i see that crap all the time in other threads, we dont use that excuse in the sty, and as for the players, its a lot easier to rig a side, and the officials are under such scrutiny after the earlier incident a few years ago, that in the playoffs with everyone watching, it would be almost unthinkable for an official to try and throw a total.. BUT they do have tendencies, just like players and teams.. if the bulls could defend the wiz, it would already have happened.
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Quote Originally Posted by dontknowhowtobe:
All previous 4 games went over. Current series is 3-1 for Washington.
Chicago would do its utmost to clinch and stay in the playoffs - so this time you can expect lots of defense.
Also 4 times ice cream doesn't mean the 5th is the same.
I
am trying to so hard to avoid gambling in general but I actually placed
$800 on the UNDER 183.5 tonight. I am quite confident about it, only
the refs or rigged stuff can ruin it.
THIS i highlighted is classic handicapping TRAP thinking....it supposes the bulls werent really trying to defend the first 4....the bulls were indeed trying to defend.... their numbers on defense that out them near the top of the league were a composite of playing against all teams, even those that dont score a lot...such as charlotte and memphis...and others....if you extrapolated out the games of just the good offensive teams the bulls played, you would probably see the bulls were not really a very good defensive team. the bulls do not have the players to match up with the wiz. at guards...2 young phenoms...beal and wall and behind them, martell webster, a player that could start for most NBA teams. the bulls dont even start their best guard augustine....gortat is bigger and stronger than boozer, and at this stage of his career, a better player....whats boozer done in the series?. in 4 games he has 11,5,14, and 8...a 9 1/2 pt avg... trevor arizza raining threes all over...the bulls barely know what a 3 is..did you know the wizards score 10 more pts a game off 3s than the bulls?.... the bulls will have to score to keep up with the wiz, which means a faster game, especially in 2 H.. and as far as being rigged. i see that crap all the time in other threads, we dont use that excuse in the sty, and as for the players, its a lot easier to rig a side, and the officials are under such scrutiny after the earlier incident a few years ago, that in the playoffs with everyone watching, it would be almost unthinkable for an official to try and throw a total.. BUT they do have tendencies, just like players and teams.. if the bulls could defend the wiz, it would already have happened.
If the Wiz start to pull away or make any sort offensive out burst this can be the end of the game..... its been a really deflating series for the bulls..... they really have no answer for this team..... and as mentally tough and strong minded as they are they understand they are down 3-1 and have been getting ran out of the building almost every game.... this could be a classic blow out let down close out game where the bulls show up for the first quarter and then they get ran over by the Wiz as they pick up steam.
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If the Wiz start to pull away or make any sort offensive out burst this can be the end of the game..... its been a really deflating series for the bulls..... they really have no answer for this team..... and as mentally tough and strong minded as they are they understand they are down 3-1 and have been getting ran out of the building almost every game.... this could be a classic blow out let down close out game where the bulls show up for the first quarter and then they get ran over by the Wiz as they pick up steam.
Genecam i see what your saying that is why I have not pulled the trigger on the total over. But if I think my TT's hit then I gotta also see that it goes over bulls should get their 88+ they will be fighting and who knows how the refs will be as well and im hoping its close for the foul fest at the end just hoping its not wiz down and doing the fouling. I made my decision not playing with the total sticking with my TT's and gonna rely on wiz the better faster younger team to get those points if not I catch them and get it back on another one.
still waiting on playing the +4.5
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Genecam i see what your saying that is why I have not pulled the trigger on the total over. But if I think my TT's hit then I gotta also see that it goes over bulls should get their 88+ they will be fighting and who knows how the refs will be as well and im hoping its close for the foul fest at the end just hoping its not wiz down and doing the fouling. I made my decision not playing with the total sticking with my TT's and gonna rely on wiz the better faster younger team to get those points if not I catch them and get it back on another one.
This is how sick gambling is for me. I
am not going to sweat it nor going to cry if I lose or dance if I win
... gambling for me is something I despise and trying to avoid ...
then why are you here?...
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Quote Originally Posted by dontknowhowtobe:
This is how sick gambling is for me. I
am not going to sweat it nor going to cry if I lose or dance if I win
... gambling for me is something I despise and trying to avoid ...
THIS i highlighted is classic handicapping TRAP thinking....it supposes the bulls werent really trying to defend the first 4....the bulls were indeed trying to defend.... their numbers on defense that out them near the top of the league were a composite of playing against all teams, even those that dont score a lot...such as charlotte and memphis...and others....if you extrapolated out the games of just the good offensive teams the bulls played, you would probably see the bulls were not really a very good defensive team. the bulls do not have the players to match up with the wiz. at guards...2 young phenoms...beal and wall and behind them, martell webster, a player that could start for most NBA teams. the bulls dont even start their best guard augustine....gortat is bigger and stronger than boozer, and at this stage of his career, a better player....whats boozer done in the series?. in 4 games he has 11,5,14, and 8...a 9 1/2 pt avg... trevor arizza raining threes all over...the bulls barely know what a 3 is..did you know the wizards score 10 more pts a game off 3s than the bulls?.... the bulls will have to score to keep up with the wiz, which means a faster game, especially in 2 H.. and as far as being rigged. i see that crap all the time in other threads, we dont use that excuse in the sty, and as for the players, its a lot easier to rig a side, and the officials are under such scrutiny after the earlier incident a few years ago, that in the playoffs with everyone watching, it would be almost unthinkable for an official to try and throw a total.. BUT they do have tendencies, just like players and teams.. if the bulls could defend the wiz, it would already have happened.
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Quote Originally Posted by pigskinpicker:
THIS i highlighted is classic handicapping TRAP thinking....it supposes the bulls werent really trying to defend the first 4....the bulls were indeed trying to defend.... their numbers on defense that out them near the top of the league were a composite of playing against all teams, even those that dont score a lot...such as charlotte and memphis...and others....if you extrapolated out the games of just the good offensive teams the bulls played, you would probably see the bulls were not really a very good defensive team. the bulls do not have the players to match up with the wiz. at guards...2 young phenoms...beal and wall and behind them, martell webster, a player that could start for most NBA teams. the bulls dont even start their best guard augustine....gortat is bigger and stronger than boozer, and at this stage of his career, a better player....whats boozer done in the series?. in 4 games he has 11,5,14, and 8...a 9 1/2 pt avg... trevor arizza raining threes all over...the bulls barely know what a 3 is..did you know the wizards score 10 more pts a game off 3s than the bulls?.... the bulls will have to score to keep up with the wiz, which means a faster game, especially in 2 H.. and as far as being rigged. i see that crap all the time in other threads, we dont use that excuse in the sty, and as for the players, its a lot easier to rig a side, and the officials are under such scrutiny after the earlier incident a few years ago, that in the playoffs with everyone watching, it would be almost unthinkable for an official to try and throw a total.. BUT they do have tendencies, just like players and teams.. if the bulls could defend the wiz, it would already have happened.
knight...i almost forgot...congrats on a really nice introductory piece that sounded sober!! you made sense, i could follow the subject matter, and you spelled most everything correctly...LOL you da wiz man knight. and the topic title was pure artistry NOT corny..
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knight...i almost forgot...congrats on a really nice introductory piece that sounded sober!! you made sense, i could follow the subject matter, and you spelled most everything correctly...LOL you da wiz man knight. and the topic title was pure artistry NOT corny..
1-0 would result in 2 times 15 mins extra time and (possibly) penalties. Any other 1 goal difference defeat or better (tie or win) would advance Real. I took it quite big yesterday, since I don't seem them losing by 2 nor do I not see them not scoring.
Hey pablo, tailing this as well. How long will it take for this bet to settle/pay out? Is it something that happens after this game is over? Thanks in advance
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Quote Originally Posted by Pablo2k1:
1-0 would result in 2 times 15 mins extra time and (possibly) penalties. Any other 1 goal difference defeat or better (tie or win) would advance Real. I took it quite big yesterday, since I don't seem them losing by 2 nor do I not see them not scoring.
Hey pablo, tailing this as well. How long will it take for this bet to settle/pay out? Is it something that happens after this game is over? Thanks in advance
but really after reading it (as you see suck at write ups thats why I dont usually do them) it's not really indepth shocking stuff lol and now I feel the pressure you know how Wiz been treating me all year when I need em they turn their back on me.
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thank you sir appreciate it
but really after reading it (as you see suck at write ups thats why I dont usually do them) it's not really indepth shocking stuff lol and now I feel the pressure you know how Wiz been treating me all year when I need em they turn their back on me.
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