Time to start fresh. Pacers are going to have trouble in this series but I'd be shocked if they didn't shut Washington down in game 2. Yes I know the Pacers aren't there normal self and the Wizards are road warriors, but tonight isn't a good spot to back the Wiz.
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Time to start fresh. Pacers are going to have trouble in this series but I'd be shocked if they didn't shut Washington down in game 2. Yes I know the Pacers aren't there normal self and the Wizards are road warriors, but tonight isn't a good spot to back the Wiz.
LC I was going to take trailblazers series, but waited for game 1 to play out, same with okc. Both of them lost, which is better for me.. what do you think about portland to win spurs series at +525? Had medium play but thinking going large..
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LC I was going to take trailblazers series, but waited for game 1 to play out, same with okc. Both of them lost, which is better for me.. what do you think about portland to win spurs series at +525? Had medium play but thinking going large..
Wiz are 4-0 SU and ATS on the road in the playoffs and
7-0 ATS and SU on the road dating back into the season (albeit there were a throwaway game in there @ the Celtics but the line still was of significance to cover).
That doesn't even remotely approach the issues facing the Pacers right now which are gargantuan. I bet the series to stay away from all the games individually but do you just counter these trends and issues that go against your selection with 'good spot'/'bad spot' thinking?
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But you like trends LC:
Wiz are 4-0 SU and ATS on the road in the playoffs and
7-0 ATS and SU on the road dating back into the season (albeit there were a throwaway game in there @ the Celtics but the line still was of significance to cover).
That doesn't even remotely approach the issues facing the Pacers right now which are gargantuan. I bet the series to stay away from all the games individually but do you just counter these trends and issues that go against your selection with 'good spot'/'bad spot' thinking?
The Pacers are not a good team but neither are the Wizards. The Pacers definitely worth a small wager here. I stayed away from game one in this series and instead took Miami and San Antonio in a two team teaser yesterday.. Good Luck to all.
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The Pacers are not a good team but neither are the Wizards. The Pacers definitely worth a small wager here. I stayed away from game one in this series and instead took Miami and San Antonio in a two team teaser yesterday.. Good Luck to all.
Let me explain for a moment. In round 1, the Pacers, Thunder, and Nets were all down 3-2 in there respective series. For the next 96 minutes of gametime, no player on any of these 3 teams took a play off as they couldn't afford to being down 3-2. They all preceded to win there series but it came at a big cost. All 3 teams got blown out in game 1 because of all the energy they had to expend to come back from being down 3-2. Because of this, I don't think we saw the Pacers, Thunder, or Nets best game in game 1. All three of them as a matter of fact, happened to get blown out. We will get much better performances from all 3 teams in game 2.
I'm sticking to 1 unit on the Thunder because the coaching advantage is phenomenal. However, Frank Vogel is 10-1 SU and 10-1 ATS off a playoff loss since last season. I will be going big on the Nets in game 2 for the aforementioned reasons as well.
Last night I was looking back on my capping for the past week and was so furious for missing this as I chose the Thunder and Pacers both in game 1. Absolutely terrible picks but again, we'll see much better performances from all these teams in game 2.
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TooHigh2WonderWhy , Scal , BeginnerBoy -
Let me explain for a moment. In round 1, the Pacers, Thunder, and Nets were all down 3-2 in there respective series. For the next 96 minutes of gametime, no player on any of these 3 teams took a play off as they couldn't afford to being down 3-2. They all preceded to win there series but it came at a big cost. All 3 teams got blown out in game 1 because of all the energy they had to expend to come back from being down 3-2. Because of this, I don't think we saw the Pacers, Thunder, or Nets best game in game 1. All three of them as a matter of fact, happened to get blown out. We will get much better performances from all 3 teams in game 2.
I'm sticking to 1 unit on the Thunder because the coaching advantage is phenomenal. However, Frank Vogel is 10-1 SU and 10-1 ATS off a playoff loss since last season. I will be going big on the Nets in game 2 for the aforementioned reasons as well.
Last night I was looking back on my capping for the past week and was so furious for missing this as I chose the Thunder and Pacers both in game 1. Absolutely terrible picks but again, we'll see much better performances from all these teams in game 2.
LC I was going to take trailblazers series, but waited for game 1 to play out, same with okc. Both of them lost, which is better for me.. what do you think about portland to win spurs series at +525? Had medium play but thinking going large..
Not too optimistic about it anymore to be honest. The games will be much more competitive I don't think they'll all be blowouts but not sure the Blazers can pull it off after what we saw in game1. If anything I would do a ML bet in game 2 and if it loses double up on game 3. If both those lose you would have lost the series bet anyways as well being down 3-0
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Quote Originally Posted by NeverBrokeAgain:
LC I was going to take trailblazers series, but waited for game 1 to play out, same with okc. Both of them lost, which is better for me.. what do you think about portland to win spurs series at +525? Had medium play but thinking going large..
Not too optimistic about it anymore to be honest. The games will be much more competitive I don't think they'll all be blowouts but not sure the Blazers can pull it off after what we saw in game1. If anything I would do a ML bet in game 2 and if it loses double up on game 3. If both those lose you would have lost the series bet anyways as well being down 3-0
Let me explain for a moment. In round 1, the Pacers, Thunder, and Nets were all down 3-2 in there respective series. For the next 96 minutes of gametime, no player on any of these 3 teams took a play off as they couldn't afford to being down 3-2. They all preceded to win there series but it came at a big cost. All 3 teams got blown out in game 1 because of all the energy they had to expend to come back from being down 3-2. Because of this, I don't think we saw the Pacers, Thunder, or Nets best game in game 1. All three of them as a matter of fact, happened to get blown out. We will get much better performances from all 3 teams in game 2.
I'm sticking to 1 unit on the Thunder because the coaching advantage is phenomenal. However, Frank Vogel is 10-1 SU and 10-1 ATS off a playoff loss since last season. I will be going big on the Nets in game 2 for the aforementioned reasons as well.
Last night I was looking back on my capping for the past week and was so furious for missing this as I chose the Thunder and Pacers both in game 1. Absolutely terrible picks but again, we'll see much better performances from all these teams in game 2.
Makes sense, LC. Although I'm not sure why it did not affect the Clippers (or hasn't affected them yet), who, though not down 3-1, had the toughest series by far. Regarding the Thunder, however, I agree about the coaching mismatch but Mark Jackson almost got the better of Rivers in the last round. Why? because it is still a game of emotion. The Sterling thing and Jackson's guys playing for the coach more than made up for/counteracted any moves Doc made and created an even playing field. The Thunder will bring a lot of energy and emotion tonight.
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Quote Originally Posted by LeagueCapper:
TooHigh2WonderWhy , Scal , BeginnerBoy -
Let me explain for a moment. In round 1, the Pacers, Thunder, and Nets were all down 3-2 in there respective series. For the next 96 minutes of gametime, no player on any of these 3 teams took a play off as they couldn't afford to being down 3-2. They all preceded to win there series but it came at a big cost. All 3 teams got blown out in game 1 because of all the energy they had to expend to come back from being down 3-2. Because of this, I don't think we saw the Pacers, Thunder, or Nets best game in game 1. All three of them as a matter of fact, happened to get blown out. We will get much better performances from all 3 teams in game 2.
I'm sticking to 1 unit on the Thunder because the coaching advantage is phenomenal. However, Frank Vogel is 10-1 SU and 10-1 ATS off a playoff loss since last season. I will be going big on the Nets in game 2 for the aforementioned reasons as well.
Last night I was looking back on my capping for the past week and was so furious for missing this as I chose the Thunder and Pacers both in game 1. Absolutely terrible picks but again, we'll see much better performances from all these teams in game 2.
Makes sense, LC. Although I'm not sure why it did not affect the Clippers (or hasn't affected them yet), who, though not down 3-1, had the toughest series by far. Regarding the Thunder, however, I agree about the coaching mismatch but Mark Jackson almost got the better of Rivers in the last round. Why? because it is still a game of emotion. The Sterling thing and Jackson's guys playing for the coach more than made up for/counteracted any moves Doc made and created an even playing field. The Thunder will bring a lot of energy and emotion tonight.
Let me explain for a moment. In round 1, the Pacers, Thunder, and Nets were all down 3-2 in there respective series. For the next 96 minutes of gametime, no player on any of these 3 teams took a play off as they couldn't afford to being down 3-2. They all preceded to win there series but it came at a big cost. All 3 teams got blown out in game 1 because of all the energy they had to expend to come back from being down 3-2. Because of this, I don't think we saw the Pacers, Thunder, or Nets best game in game 1. All three of them as a matter of fact, happened to get blown out. We will get much better performances from all 3 teams in game 2.
I'm sticking to 1 unit on the Thunder because the coaching advantage is phenomenal. However, Frank Vogel is 10-1 SU and 10-1 ATS off a playoff loss since last season. I will be going big on the Nets in game 2 for the aforementioned reasons as well.
Last night I was looking back on my capping for the past week and was so furious for missing this as I chose the Thunder and Pacers both in game 1. Absolutely terrible picks but again, we'll see much better performances from all these teams in game 2.
LC,
You can throw out the trends for the pacers right now, especially any dating back to last season.
I've said it many times: Vogel looks like he wants to be handed a pink slip by continually starting Hibbert (which he'll probably do yet again tonight) so any trend that involves him as a backing for this bet has to be disregarded.
Your first paragraph I don't agree with with regards to the Wizards although it is much more dependable and sound than a trend based argument for the pacers.
Still you will see the Pacers best effort in the series tonight but that better be a lot of effort compared to what they have shown in the majority of these playoffs or this series is basically over.
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Quote Originally Posted by LeagueCapper:
TooHigh2WonderWhy , Scal , BeginnerBoy -
Let me explain for a moment. In round 1, the Pacers, Thunder, and Nets were all down 3-2 in there respective series. For the next 96 minutes of gametime, no player on any of these 3 teams took a play off as they couldn't afford to being down 3-2. They all preceded to win there series but it came at a big cost. All 3 teams got blown out in game 1 because of all the energy they had to expend to come back from being down 3-2. Because of this, I don't think we saw the Pacers, Thunder, or Nets best game in game 1. All three of them as a matter of fact, happened to get blown out. We will get much better performances from all 3 teams in game 2.
I'm sticking to 1 unit on the Thunder because the coaching advantage is phenomenal. However, Frank Vogel is 10-1 SU and 10-1 ATS off a playoff loss since last season. I will be going big on the Nets in game 2 for the aforementioned reasons as well.
Last night I was looking back on my capping for the past week and was so furious for missing this as I chose the Thunder and Pacers both in game 1. Absolutely terrible picks but again, we'll see much better performances from all these teams in game 2.
LC,
You can throw out the trends for the pacers right now, especially any dating back to last season.
I've said it many times: Vogel looks like he wants to be handed a pink slip by continually starting Hibbert (which he'll probably do yet again tonight) so any trend that involves him as a backing for this bet has to be disregarded.
Your first paragraph I don't agree with with regards to the Wizards although it is much more dependable and sound than a trend based argument for the pacers.
Still you will see the Pacers best effort in the series tonight but that better be a lot of effort compared to what they have shown in the majority of these playoffs or this series is basically over.
Winning by a minimum of 5 means this is a dominating performance by the Pacers. I understand that the performance will be better, so perhaps they don't need to make 3's in garbage time to only lose by 6 tonight. What makes you think a combination of Pacers crushing and Wizards letting down will take place tonight. To cap a team winning by 5 you have to be uber sure of a lead 90-100% game right?
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Winning by a minimum of 5 means this is a dominating performance by the Pacers. I understand that the performance will be better, so perhaps they don't need to make 3's in garbage time to only lose by 6 tonight. What makes you think a combination of Pacers crushing and Wizards letting down will take place tonight. To cap a team winning by 5 you have to be uber sure of a lead 90-100% game right?
Makes sense, LC. Although I'm not sure why it did not affect the Clippers (or hasn't affected them yet), who, though not down 3-1, had the toughest series by far. Regarding the Thunder, however, I agree about the coaching mismatch but Mark Jackson almost got the better of Rivers in the last round. Why? because it is still a game of emotion. The Sterling thing and Jackson's guys playing for the coach more than made up for/counteracted any moves Doc made and created an even playing field. The Thunder will bring a lot of energy and emotion tonight.
I thought about that one as well and came up with a few reasons. First, the Clippers had elimination on there minds only when the series was tied 3-3 (2 days?). Second, the Clippers were underdogs in game 1 against the Thunder so they had little to lose as expectations were still low. That's part of it. The Thunder and Pacers were both facing elimination for 4-5 days and then were favorites and expected to win in game 1 of there respective series.
Huge dynamic change for young players to go from thinking of elimination for nearly a week to all of a sudden being expected to beat an up and coming team. Again I think we'll see a much better performance from the Pacers especially, and Thunder tonight. As well as the Nets tomorrow.
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Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:
Makes sense, LC. Although I'm not sure why it did not affect the Clippers (or hasn't affected them yet), who, though not down 3-1, had the toughest series by far. Regarding the Thunder, however, I agree about the coaching mismatch but Mark Jackson almost got the better of Rivers in the last round. Why? because it is still a game of emotion. The Sterling thing and Jackson's guys playing for the coach more than made up for/counteracted any moves Doc made and created an even playing field. The Thunder will bring a lot of energy and emotion tonight.
I thought about that one as well and came up with a few reasons. First, the Clippers had elimination on there minds only when the series was tied 3-3 (2 days?). Second, the Clippers were underdogs in game 1 against the Thunder so they had little to lose as expectations were still low. That's part of it. The Thunder and Pacers were both facing elimination for 4-5 days and then were favorites and expected to win in game 1 of there respective series.
Huge dynamic change for young players to go from thinking of elimination for nearly a week to all of a sudden being expected to beat an up and coming team. Again I think we'll see a much better performance from the Pacers especially, and Thunder tonight. As well as the Nets tomorrow.
You can throw out the trends for the pacers right now, especially any dating back to last season.
I've said it many times: Vogel looks like he wants to be handed a pink slip by continually starting Hibbert (which he'll probably do yet again tonight) so any trend that involves him as a backing for this bet has to be disregarded.
Your first paragraph I don't agree with with regards to the Wizards although it is much more dependable and sound than a trend based argument for the pacers.
Still you will see the Pacers best effort in the series tonight but that better be a lot of effort compared to what they have shown in the majority of these playoffs or this series is basically over.
Not saying anything about the series but I truly think tonight is the Pacers night. Even if you wanna count just this year, Vogel is 3-0 SU and ATS off a playoff loss.
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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:
LC,
You can throw out the trends for the pacers right now, especially any dating back to last season.
I've said it many times: Vogel looks like he wants to be handed a pink slip by continually starting Hibbert (which he'll probably do yet again tonight) so any trend that involves him as a backing for this bet has to be disregarded.
Your first paragraph I don't agree with with regards to the Wizards although it is much more dependable and sound than a trend based argument for the pacers.
Still you will see the Pacers best effort in the series tonight but that better be a lot of effort compared to what they have shown in the majority of these playoffs or this series is basically over.
Not saying anything about the series but I truly think tonight is the Pacers night. Even if you wanna count just this year, Vogel is 3-0 SU and ATS off a playoff loss.
Not saying anything about the series but I truly think tonight is the Pacers night. Even if you wanna count just this year, Vogel is 3-0 SU and ATS off a playoff loss.
3-0 against a Hawks team that is the opposite of a Wizards team. I'm not sure what trend could be applied to this particular spot.
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Quote Originally Posted by LeagueCapper:
Not saying anything about the series but I truly think tonight is the Pacers night. Even if you wanna count just this year, Vogel is 3-0 SU and ATS off a playoff loss.
3-0 against a Hawks team that is the opposite of a Wizards team. I'm not sure what trend could be applied to this particular spot.
3-0 against a Hawks team that is the opposite of a Wizards team. I'm not sure what trend could be applied to this particular spot.
Not sure why people continue to discount the Hawks, yeah there not a great team but no other team has given the Pacers more problems then the Hawks this year. Pacers have lost by 7 or more at home 6 times this year, 3 of those times were to the Hawks and all other 3 were non-conference opponents.
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Quote Originally Posted by TooHigh2WonderWhy:
3-0 against a Hawks team that is the opposite of a Wizards team. I'm not sure what trend could be applied to this particular spot.
Not sure why people continue to discount the Hawks, yeah there not a great team but no other team has given the Pacers more problems then the Hawks this year. Pacers have lost by 7 or more at home 6 times this year, 3 of those times were to the Hawks and all other 3 were non-conference opponents.
Not saying anything about the series but I truly think tonight is the Pacers night. Even if you wanna count just this year, Vogel is 3-0 SU and ATS off a playoff loss.
But that 3-0 is against the 38-44 hawks who shouldn't have made it a series against a 1 seed with 56 wins, while we can compare that to the Wiz went 3-0 against the bulls on the road who were a 4 seed and favored in the series at home (and 1-0 in this series as well).
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Quote Originally Posted by LeagueCapper:
Not saying anything about the series but I truly think tonight is the Pacers night. Even if you wanna count just this year, Vogel is 3-0 SU and ATS off a playoff loss.
But that 3-0 is against the 38-44 hawks who shouldn't have made it a series against a 1 seed with 56 wins, while we can compare that to the Wiz went 3-0 against the bulls on the road who were a 4 seed and favored in the series at home (and 1-0 in this series as well).
all the hate on pacers? how funny. cmon reality check pacers are one of the favorites here now. wonder why lady gaga postponed concerts just because there might be a "game 6" on this series?? obviously pacers are gonna have that trend again win lose win lose lose win win :) its not like every game ariza and beal gets lucky on 3's. wall is containable pg on him cmon..no playoff experience guys? I bet 500$ on playoffs today!
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all the hate on pacers? how funny. cmon reality check pacers are one of the favorites here now. wonder why lady gaga postponed concerts just because there might be a "game 6" on this series?? obviously pacers are gonna have that trend again win lose win lose lose win win :) its not like every game ariza and beal gets lucky on 3's. wall is containable pg on him cmon..no playoff experience guys? I bet 500$ on playoffs today!
But that 3-0 is against the 38-44 hawks who shouldn't have made it a series against a 1 seed with 56 wins, while we can compare that to the Wiz went 3-0 against the bulls on the road who were a 4 seed and favored in the series at home (and 1-0 in this series as well).
Bulls were very overrated coming into the playoffs and as said in post #21, the Hawks are a bad matchup for the Pacers. The Wizards caught the Pacers in a terrible spot in game 1 as highlighted above. I love the Wiz Kids, they'll be much better spots to back them in this series rather than tonight.
But who knows, i've been on a terrible slide lately, so maybe we'll see another blowout
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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:
But that 3-0 is against the 38-44 hawks who shouldn't have made it a series against a 1 seed with 56 wins, while we can compare that to the Wiz went 3-0 against the bulls on the road who were a 4 seed and favored in the series at home (and 1-0 in this series as well).
Bulls were very overrated coming into the playoffs and as said in post #21, the Hawks are a bad matchup for the Pacers. The Wizards caught the Pacers in a terrible spot in game 1 as highlighted above. I love the Wiz Kids, they'll be much better spots to back them in this series rather than tonight.
But who knows, i've been on a terrible slide lately, so maybe we'll see another blowout
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