wow, yea take the Pistons, like I said Vegas was off on this one from the beginning. Bodog has the pistons as favorites and sportsbook still has them a PK. Someone must be pounding the Cavs on Pinnacle. Besides, the line moved a point pretty quickly last night in favor of the Cavs, so the early sharp money was on the Pistons. Don't let it phase you
Alright, i'm prolly gonna throw a little more down then i usually do. I'll probably wait a little more to see if the line changed although i don't think it will go any higher.
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Quote Originally Posted by lawstyle:
wow, yea take the Pistons, like I said Vegas was off on this one from the beginning. Bodog has the pistons as favorites and sportsbook still has them a PK. Someone must be pounding the Cavs on Pinnacle. Besides, the line moved a point pretty quickly last night in favor of the Cavs, so the early sharp money was on the Pistons. Don't let it phase you
Alright, i'm prolly gonna throw a little more down then i usually do. I'll probably wait a little more to see if the line changed although i don't think it will go any higher.
Law, How do you like the Sonic tonite? bout Pistons game, my only worried is the line goes flip-flop. I will lookin to it little deeper after leave from work.
GL
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Law, How do you like the Sonic tonite? bout Pistons game, my only worried is the line goes flip-flop. I will lookin to it little deeper after leave from work.
Take the extra two points and run... I'm not going to back down just because someone loves the Cavs in this one. I've done my research and everything points Detroit so I'm confident in that, I don't care what Pinnacle thinks.
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Take the extra two points and run... I'm not going to back down just because someone loves the Cavs in this one. I've done my research and everything points Detroit so I'm confident in that, I don't care what Pinnacle thinks.
Looking at that line last night I thought the wrong team was favored but anything under a bucket pushes it towards a pick anyway, IMO. One nice thing is it looks like the public is starting to pile on Cleveland...Lebron on ESPN possibly unsure...which favors the bet on Detroit.
Good write up by the way and best of luck tonight!
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Looking at that line last night I thought the wrong team was favored but anything under a bucket pushes it towards a pick anyway, IMO. One nice thing is it looks like the public is starting to pile on Cleveland...Lebron on ESPN possibly unsure...which favors the bet on Detroit.
Good write up by the way and best of luck tonight!
Take the extra two points and run... I'm not going to back down just because someone loves the Cavs in this one. I've done my research and everything points Detroit so I'm confident in that, I don't care what Pinnacle thinks.
While your research is thorough, the one grave mistake (and actually, quite possibly the cardinal sin of sports gambling) is your statement that "Vegas missed this one."
Add this to your "everything points to Detroit" sentiment, and I would be really really worried.
These are the two biggest red flags I look for when I'm trying to pick winners. And I think you should be careful when your reasoning has led you to conclude that "all signs point to Detroit" and "Vegas missed this one."
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Quote Originally Posted by lawstyle:
Take the extra two points and run... I'm not going to back down just because someone loves the Cavs in this one. I've done my research and everything points Detroit so I'm confident in that, I don't care what Pinnacle thinks.
While your research is thorough, the one grave mistake (and actually, quite possibly the cardinal sin of sports gambling) is your statement that "Vegas missed this one."
Add this to your "everything points to Detroit" sentiment, and I would be really really worried.
These are the two biggest red flags I look for when I'm trying to pick winners. And I think you should be careful when your reasoning has led you to conclude that "all signs point to Detroit" and "Vegas missed this one."
im not lawstyle but I think that NJ will beat Atlanta tonight. Atlanta is horrible on the road but they've won 2 in a row which is why the line is that way. NJ is pretty good at home and just beat Utah and Marcus Williams is a more than capable starting point guard. Harris may even play. NJ +2.5 seems like a gift. Id take the ML
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im not lawstyle but I think that NJ will beat Atlanta tonight. Atlanta is horrible on the road but they've won 2 in a row which is why the line is that way. NJ is pretty good at home and just beat Utah and Marcus Williams is a more than capable starting point guard. Harris may even play. NJ +2.5 seems like a gift. Id take the ML
While your research is thorough, the one grave mistake (and actually, quite possibly the cardinal sin of sports gambling) is your statement that "Vegas missed this one."
Add this to your "everything points to Detroit" sentiment, and I would be really really worried.
These are the two biggest red flags I look for when I'm trying to pick winners. And I think you should be careful when your reasoning has led you to conclude that "all signs point to Detroit" and "Vegas missed this one."
I don't understand. Doing research and finding that the research favors a side is a cardinal sin of sports gambling? I thought that if your research pointed a certain direction than that is a good thing, at least it has been in my case.
You don't think Vegas can miss things? How about when Vegas favored the Jazz by 6 against the Nuggets a few weeks ago and the Jazz won by 27? Or when the Bulls got 4 points at home against the Jazz and the Bulls won by 12? These are misses by Vegas, and that isn't a cardinal sin in sports betting. A cardinal sin in sports betting is betting a game that isn't backed up by research, but by intuition. No one had any business taking GS last night but 80% did anyway because GS is "fighting for a playoff spot"-- There is no research behind that.
Good luck with whoever you take tonight
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Quote Originally Posted by PistolPete21:
While your research is thorough, the one grave mistake (and actually, quite possibly the cardinal sin of sports gambling) is your statement that "Vegas missed this one."
Add this to your "everything points to Detroit" sentiment, and I would be really really worried.
These are the two biggest red flags I look for when I'm trying to pick winners. And I think you should be careful when your reasoning has led you to conclude that "all signs point to Detroit" and "Vegas missed this one."
I don't understand. Doing research and finding that the research favors a side is a cardinal sin of sports gambling? I thought that if your research pointed a certain direction than that is a good thing, at least it has been in my case.
You don't think Vegas can miss things? How about when Vegas favored the Jazz by 6 against the Nuggets a few weeks ago and the Jazz won by 27? Or when the Bulls got 4 points at home against the Jazz and the Bulls won by 12? These are misses by Vegas, and that isn't a cardinal sin in sports betting. A cardinal sin in sports betting is betting a game that isn't backed up by research, but by intuition. No one had any business taking GS last night but 80% did anyway because GS is "fighting for a playoff spot"-- There is no research behind that.
I don't understand. Doing research and finding that the research favors a side is a cardinal sin of sports gambling? I thought that if your research pointed a certain direction than that is a good thing, at least it has been in my case.
You don't think Vegas can miss things? How about when Vegas favored the Jazz by 6 against the Nuggets a few weeks ago and the Jazz won by 27? Or when the Bulls got 4 points at home against the Jazz and the Bulls won by 12? These are misses by Vegas, and that isn't a cardinal sin in sports betting. A cardinal sin in sports betting is betting a game that isn't backed up by research, but by intuition. No one had any business taking GS last night but 80% did anyway because GS is "fighting for a playoff spot"-- There is no research behind that.
Good luck with whoever you take tonight
I agree research is very important, and often research outside the box is required beyond just "Golden State is fighting for a playoff spot, so they'll cover."
I'm not sure how long you've been doing this gambling thing, but I can tell you that intuition is something that definately develops along the way. Intuition is actually just as important as research because sports have taught us that all the empirical, objective analysis in the world means zilch in competition.
I'm from Detroit. I know this team inside-out, and I hope you're right about tonight. After last season's playoff demise, everytime the Pistons play the Cavs it's a game that means something more. But Mr. Oddsmaker tells me that the Cavs should win this game. I'm not going to argue with him because he makes more money than all of us. I don't know about you, but I'd rather follow the leader in this game than try to find me own way through the darkness of uncertainty that is sports gambling.
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Quote Originally Posted by lawstyle:
I don't understand. Doing research and finding that the research favors a side is a cardinal sin of sports gambling? I thought that if your research pointed a certain direction than that is a good thing, at least it has been in my case.
You don't think Vegas can miss things? How about when Vegas favored the Jazz by 6 against the Nuggets a few weeks ago and the Jazz won by 27? Or when the Bulls got 4 points at home against the Jazz and the Bulls won by 12? These are misses by Vegas, and that isn't a cardinal sin in sports betting. A cardinal sin in sports betting is betting a game that isn't backed up by research, but by intuition. No one had any business taking GS last night but 80% did anyway because GS is "fighting for a playoff spot"-- There is no research behind that.
Good luck with whoever you take tonight
I agree research is very important, and often research outside the box is required beyond just "Golden State is fighting for a playoff spot, so they'll cover."
I'm not sure how long you've been doing this gambling thing, but I can tell you that intuition is something that definately develops along the way. Intuition is actually just as important as research because sports have taught us that all the empirical, objective analysis in the world means zilch in competition.
I'm from Detroit. I know this team inside-out, and I hope you're right about tonight. After last season's playoff demise, everytime the Pistons play the Cavs it's a game that means something more. But Mr. Oddsmaker tells me that the Cavs should win this game. I'm not going to argue with him because he makes more money than all of us. I don't know about you, but I'd rather follow the leader in this game than try to find me own way through the darkness of uncertainty that is sports gambling.
I hope all the wannabe-sharps in here know that the public is NOT all over the Cavs as has been stated numerous times.
According to sportsinsights.com, 74% of spread action on DET, 90% of ML action on DET. On the Wagerline consensus, 58% of the picks are on DET.
And the line's moving the other way.
Just thought somebody would like to know.
Nobody here is a "wannabe-sharp"... Just gambler's trying to figure out the best bet, relax man
I never said the public was all over the Cavs. The line is not moving in the other direction. It opened up at -1 Cavs and is now at 0 at some books and -1.5 at others.
Sportsinsights is also not an accurate representation of money played.
Good luck
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Quote Originally Posted by Mmm_Donut:
I hope all the wannabe-sharps in here know that the public is NOT all over the Cavs as has been stated numerous times.
According to sportsinsights.com, 74% of spread action on DET, 90% of ML action on DET. On the Wagerline consensus, 58% of the picks are on DET.
And the line's moving the other way.
Just thought somebody would like to know.
Nobody here is a "wannabe-sharp"... Just gambler's trying to figure out the best bet, relax man
I never said the public was all over the Cavs. The line is not moving in the other direction. It opened up at -1 Cavs and is now at 0 at some books and -1.5 at others.
Sportsinsights is also not an accurate representation of money played.
I agree research is very important, and often research outside the box is required beyond just "Golden State is fighting for a playoff spot, so they'll cover."
I'm not sure how long you've been doing this gambling thing, but I can tell you that intuition is something that definately develops along the way. Intuition is actually just as important as research because sports have taught us that all the empirical, objective analysis in the world means zilch in competition.
I'm from Detroit. I know this team inside-out, and I hope you're right about tonight. After last season's playoff demise, everytime the Pistons play the Cavs it's a game that means something more. But Mr. Oddsmaker tells me that the Cavs should win this game. I'm not going to argue with him because he makes more money than all of us. I don't know about you, but I'd rather follow the leader in this game than try to find me own way through the darkness of uncertainty that is sports gambling.
I agree with everything you just said. I always try to take hints from Vegas, look at my writeups. Even today I looked for a hint, but the fact is there is not a huge majority on the Pistons, and this is not a trap. Detroit could be the wrong play, but not because it is a trap.
Why are you on the Pistons tonight if you feel this uncomfortable about it?
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Quote Originally Posted by PistolPete21:
I agree research is very important, and often research outside the box is required beyond just "Golden State is fighting for a playoff spot, so they'll cover."
I'm not sure how long you've been doing this gambling thing, but I can tell you that intuition is something that definately develops along the way. Intuition is actually just as important as research because sports have taught us that all the empirical, objective analysis in the world means zilch in competition.
I'm from Detroit. I know this team inside-out, and I hope you're right about tonight. After last season's playoff demise, everytime the Pistons play the Cavs it's a game that means something more. But Mr. Oddsmaker tells me that the Cavs should win this game. I'm not going to argue with him because he makes more money than all of us. I don't know about you, but I'd rather follow the leader in this game than try to find me own way through the darkness of uncertainty that is sports gambling.
I agree with everything you just said. I always try to take hints from Vegas, look at my writeups. Even today I looked for a hint, but the fact is there is not a huge majority on the Pistons, and this is not a trap. Detroit could be the wrong play, but not because it is a trap.
Why are you on the Pistons tonight if you feel this uncomfortable about it?
im not lawstyle but I think that NJ will beat Atlanta tonight. Atlanta is horrible on the road but they've won 2 in a row which is why the line is that way. NJ is pretty good at home and just beat Utah and Marcus Williams is a more than capable starting point guard. Harris may even play. NJ +2.5 seems like a gift. Id take the ML
Lonnie...went to pregamewire and Harris is doubtful and I do not think he plays. Unless his status changed late this afternoon. Just a little heads up. Atlanta is on a semi-roll as of late.
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Quote Originally Posted by Lonnie82:
im not lawstyle but I think that NJ will beat Atlanta tonight. Atlanta is horrible on the road but they've won 2 in a row which is why the line is that way. NJ is pretty good at home and just beat Utah and Marcus Williams is a more than capable starting point guard. Harris may even play. NJ +2.5 seems like a gift. Id take the ML
Lonnie...went to pregamewire and Harris is doubtful and I do not think he plays. Unless his status changed late this afternoon. Just a little heads up. Atlanta is on a semi-roll as of late.
Nobody here is a "wannabe-sharp"... Just gambler's trying to figure out the best bet, relax man
I never said the public was all over the Cavs. The line is not moving in the other direction. It opened up at -1 Cavs and is now at 0 at some books and -1.5 at others.
Sportsinsights is also not an accurate representation of money played.
Good luck
99% of sports bettors are squares and 99% of sports bettors who don't believe they're a square are wannabe-sharps.
Wasn't referring to you specifically. I've just been reading a whole lot of misinformation and conjecture around the forum about how the line has been set to lure in Cleveland backers, when it's the complete opposite. All these people talking about "public this, public that" are part of the public themselves and don't even know it.
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Quote Originally Posted by lawstyle:
Nobody here is a "wannabe-sharp"... Just gambler's trying to figure out the best bet, relax man
I never said the public was all over the Cavs. The line is not moving in the other direction. It opened up at -1 Cavs and is now at 0 at some books and -1.5 at others.
Sportsinsights is also not an accurate representation of money played.
Good luck
99% of sports bettors are squares and 99% of sports bettors who don't believe they're a square are wannabe-sharps.
Wasn't referring to you specifically. I've just been reading a whole lot of misinformation and conjecture around the forum about how the line has been set to lure in Cleveland backers, when it's the complete opposite. All these people talking about "public this, public that" are part of the public themselves and don't even know it.
Thanks for the info. Im GONNA FADE YOU as I feel more comfy about my Cleveland pick. The public is not 50/50, is more like 74/26 on Detroit, and the line was soft to attract attention onto Detroit. Game on ESPN so all you squares can watch your bet lose. Reverse logic wins here. MMM-Donut has it right. Line moving in wrong directions as sharps are pounding Cleveland.
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Thanks for the info. Im GONNA FADE YOU as I feel more comfy about my Cleveland pick. The public is not 50/50, is more like 74/26 on Detroit, and the line was soft to attract attention onto Detroit. Game on ESPN so all you squares can watch your bet lose. Reverse logic wins here. MMM-Donut has it right. Line moving in wrong directions as sharps are pounding Cleveland.
i enjoy your write ups and i am impressed with your knowledge everyday
as a sixers fan, i recommend nobody touches that game tonight unless your playing the over.........packed house to welcome back iverson and the fans are gonna be hyped!!!! im bummed im not gonna be there myself....
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i enjoy your write ups and i am impressed with your knowledge everyday
as a sixers fan, i recommend nobody touches that game tonight unless your playing the over.........packed house to welcome back iverson and the fans are gonna be hyped!!!! im bummed im not gonna be there myself....
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