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    begginerboy
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2015 - 2:36 AM ET #1

    1) Western Conference teams are money against the East (well, unless we're talking Dallas). I said this would be the case before the season, but it is more true now because of the playoff positioning and the battle for home court advantage in the West. I mean, when was the last time we saw the Clippers put together such a workmanlike road trip against the dregs of the NBA?!

    2) The Rockets will have the opportunity to solidify their position as the 2nd seed in the coming days and the Grizz will try to reclaim it. Meanwhile, the Clippers and Spurs will be trying to get the 4th seed while the Blazers try to hold on.

    3) The Lakers are now tanking hard and that's because Orlando might be as well. They are separated by one loss in the loss column. Teasing laker's opponents down should be a solid play from here till the end of the season.  

    4) The Spurs are clearly the 3rd best team in the NBA right now, behind the Dubs and Cavs. Spurs futures are not a bad investment, though they'll likely face the Dubs in the 2nd round.

    5) Chicago really wants to hold on to that 3rd spot. As bad as the Wizards are playing, Chicago does not want to face them in the 1st round (it's just a bad matchup for them) especially not when they can face the Bucks.

    6) The Warriors, having clinched almost everything, will now play against teams needing wins (Clippers, Suns, Dallas, SA, NO, Portland, Memphis). It will be interesting to see how much effort they put forth in these last few games. 


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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    1) Western Conference teams are money against the East (well, unless we're talking Dallas). I said this would be the case before the season, but it is more true now because of the playoff positioning and the battle for home court advantage in the West. I mean, when was the last time we saw the Clippers put together such a workmanlike road trip against the dregs of the NBA?!

    2) The Rockets will have the opportunity to solidify their position as the 2nd seed in the coming days and the Grizz will try to reclaim it. Meanwhile, the Clippers and Spurs will be trying to get the 4th seed while the Blazers try to hold on.

    3) The Lakers are now tanking hard and that's because Orlando might be as well. They are separated by one loss in the loss column. Teasing laker's opponents down should be a solid play from here till the end of the season.  

    4) The Spurs are clearly the 3rd best team in the NBA right now, behind the Dubs and Cavs. Spurs futures are not a bad investment, though they'll likely face the Dubs in the 2nd round.

    5) Chicago really wants to hold on to that 3rd spot. As bad as the Wizards are playing, Chicago does not want to face them in the 1st round (it's just a bad matchup for them) especially not when they can face the Bucks.

    6) The Warriors, having clinched almost everything, will now play against teams needing wins (Clippers, Suns, Dallas, SA, NO, Portland, Memphis). It will be interesting to see how much effort they put forth in these last few games. 


     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2015 - 3:09 AM ET #2

    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:

    1) Western Conference teams are money against the East (well, unless we're talking Dallas). I said this would be the case before the season, but it is more true now because of the playoff positioning and the battle for home court advantage in the West. I mean, when was the last time we saw the Clippers put together such a workmanlike road trip against the dregs of the NBA?!

    2) The Rockets will have the opportunity to solidify their position as the 2nd seed in the coming days and the Grizz will try to reclaim it. Meanwhile, the Clippers and Spurs will be trying to get the 4th seed while the Blazers try to hold on.

    3) The Lakers are now tanking hard and that's because Orlando might be as well. They are separated by one loss in the loss column. Teasing laker's opponents down should be a solid play from here till the end of the season.  

    4) The Spurs are clearly the 3rd best team in the NBA right now, behind the Dubs and Cavs. Spurs futures are not a bad investment, though they'll likely face the Dubs in the 2nd round.

    5) Chicago really wants to hold on to that 3rd spot. As bad as the Wizards are playing, Chicago does not want to face them in the 1st round (it's just a bad matchup for them) especially not when they can face the Bucks.

    6) The Warriors, having clinched almost everything, will now play against teams needing wins (Clippers, Suns, Dallas, SA, NO, Portland, Memphis). It will be interesting to see how much effort they put forth in these last few games. 



     thanks for the info
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    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:

    1) Western Conference teams are money against the East (well, unless we're talking Dallas). I said this would be the case before the season, but it is more true now because of the playoff positioning and the battle for home court advantage in the West. I mean, when was the last time we saw the Clippers put together such a workmanlike road trip against the dregs of the NBA?!

    2) The Rockets will have the opportunity to solidify their position as the 2nd seed in the coming days and the Grizz will try to reclaim it. Meanwhile, the Clippers and Spurs will be trying to get the 4th seed while the Blazers try to hold on.

    3) The Lakers are now tanking hard and that's because Orlando might be as well. They are separated by one loss in the loss column. Teasing laker's opponents down should be a solid play from here till the end of the season.  

    4) The Spurs are clearly the 3rd best team in the NBA right now, behind the Dubs and Cavs. Spurs futures are not a bad investment, though they'll likely face the Dubs in the 2nd round.

    5) Chicago really wants to hold on to that 3rd spot. As bad as the Wizards are playing, Chicago does not want to face them in the 1st round (it's just a bad matchup for them) especially not when they can face the Bucks.

    6) The Warriors, having clinched almost everything, will now play against teams needing wins (Clippers, Suns, Dallas, SA, NO, Portland, Memphis). It will be interesting to see how much effort they put forth in these last few games. 



     thanks for the info
     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2015 - 3:22 AM ET #3

    The Warriors just need to win 2 more games to lock up home court through out the playoffs.  Here is how their schedule is looking. Bogut is really injury prone and after the Clippers and Suns games at home I doubt he plays for the rest of the regular season. They have a 3 game road trip against teams jocking for position or trying to make the playoffs I'm gonna fade them Kerr will probably be resting a bunch of players on that trip. I'm also gonna fade them hard on the last game of the season against Denver. All 5 starters should be out and the Nuggets still have a bad taste in their mouth over that playoff series and Iggy switching sides and they would love nothing more than to destroy them on their home court even if it's against their B team. 

    Tomorrow @ Clippers 
    4/2 vs Suns                 
    4/4 @ Mavs              
    4/5 @ Spurs            
    4/7 @Pelicans     
    4/9 vs Blazers          
    4/11 vs Timberwolves   
    4/13 vs Grizzlies 
    4/15 vs Denver 

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    The Warriors just need to win 2 more games to lock up home court through out the playoffs.  Here is how their schedule is looking. Bogut is really injury prone and after the Clippers and Suns games at home I doubt he plays for the rest of the regular season. They have a 3 game road trip against teams jocking for position or trying to make the playoffs I'm gonna fade them Kerr will probably be resting a bunch of players on that trip. I'm also gonna fade them hard on the last game of the season against Denver. All 5 starters should be out and the Nuggets still have a bad taste in their mouth over that playoff series and Iggy switching sides and they would love nothing more than to destroy them on their home court even if it's against their B team. 

    Tomorrow @ Clippers 
    4/2 vs Suns                 
    4/4 @ Mavs              
    4/5 @ Spurs            
    4/7 @Pelicans     
    4/9 vs Blazers          
    4/11 vs Timberwolves   
    4/13 vs Grizzlies 
    4/15 vs Denver 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2015 - 4:23 AM ET #4

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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2015 - 4:38 AM ET #5

    Next week, Best of Luck.
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    Next week, Best of Luck.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2015 - 5:32 AM ET #6

    I learned, never bet against GSW & never bet on Memphis.
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    I learned, never bet against GSW & never bet on Memphis.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2015 - 7:08 AM ET #7

    I've been trying to fade the warriors all season to no avail. Hoping tomorrow is there down fall ;). But I agree, you can pretty much chalk them up for a few loses before the end of the year. Already locked in Denver to beat them in the last game.

    I think philly will still finish strong as well.
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    I've been trying to fade the warriors all season to no avail. Hoping tomorrow is there down fall ;). But I agree, you can pretty much chalk them up for a few loses before the end of the year. Already locked in Denver to beat them in the last game.

    I think philly will still finish strong as well.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2015 - 7:52 AM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by midnightprowl:

    I learned, never bet against GSW & never bet on Memphis.
    pretty much this
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    Quote Originally Posted by midnightprowl:

    I learned, never bet against GSW & never bet on Memphis.
    pretty much this
     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2015 - 9:27 AM ET #9

    I got Spurs as my dark horse, locked them in with 15/2 odds week back
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    I got Spurs as my dark horse, locked them in with 15/2 odds week back
     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2015 - 9:41 AM ET #10

    Add this to your list:

    Spurs have not lost a 1st Half since Feb. 25th.

    Spurs have beaten every opponent they've faced in the 1st half and have only lost 4 of their 1st half quarters

    • Sacramento on Feb 27th 1Q

    • Sacramento on March 4th 1Q

    • Milwaukee on March 18th 1Q

    • Dallas on March 24th 2Q

    Putting up insane numbers leading by 12.6 Points at the end of the first half. Next closest Team? Houston with a 4.5 Point lead

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    Add this to your list:

    Spurs have not lost a 1st Half since Feb. 25th.

    Spurs have beaten every opponent they've faced in the 1st half and have only lost 4 of their 1st half quarters

    • Sacramento on Feb 27th 1Q

    • Sacramento on March 4th 1Q

    • Milwaukee on March 18th 1Q

    • Dallas on March 24th 2Q

    Putting up insane numbers leading by 12.6 Points at the end of the first half. Next closest Team? Houston with a 4.5 Point lead

     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2015 - 10:16 AM ET #11

    Alright, let's put our money where our mouth is and do a fun little parlay based on the arguments on this page. I left one slot open for Utah if Favors plays. It's a revenge game against the tanking Wolves for Utah.

    301364567-1 3/30/15 10:13am $50.00 $200.41 Open 5 Team Parlay
    Pending 3/30/15 7:05pm  NBA Basketball  734 Philadelphia 76ers -190* vs Los Angeles Lakers 
    Pending 3/30/15 7:35pm  NBA Basketball  735 Houston Rockets +110* vs Toronto Raptors 
    Pending 3/30/15 8:05pm  NBA Basketball  742 Memphis Grizzlies -400* vs Sacramento Kings 
    Pending 3/30/15 10:05pm  NBA Basketball  744 Portland Trail Blazers -400* vs Phoenix Suns 

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    Alright, let's put our money where our mouth is and do a fun little parlay based on the arguments on this page. I left one slot open for Utah if Favors plays. It's a revenge game against the tanking Wolves for Utah.

    301364567-1 3/30/15 10:13am $50.00 $200.41 Open 5 Team Parlay
    Pending 3/30/15 7:05pm  NBA Basketball  734 Philadelphia 76ers -190* vs Los Angeles Lakers 
    Pending 3/30/15 7:35pm  NBA Basketball  735 Houston Rockets +110* vs Toronto Raptors 
    Pending 3/30/15 8:05pm  NBA Basketball  742 Memphis Grizzlies -400* vs Sacramento Kings 
    Pending 3/30/15 10:05pm  NBA Basketball  744 Portland Trail Blazers -400* vs Phoenix Suns 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2015 - 10:19 AM ET #12

    Forgot to mention, $50 pays $325 if we add Utah ML. Only $200 without Utah. But I'm not settled on Utah, so I left it open. 
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    Forgot to mention, $50 pays $325 if we add Utah ML. Only $200 without Utah. But I'm not settled on Utah, so I left it open. 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2015 - 10:51 AM ET #13

    This is a very interesting Lakers Sixers game BB.

    Both teams have tanked incessantly throughout the entire year and we are coming down the stretch with a H2H tonight.

    The Sixers are one game up on the Lakers and if the Lakers win this game, after all the tie-breakers, and given how rarely teams at the bottom win, they lock up the 4th spot. If the Sixers lose, they can lock up the 3rd spot for all intents and purposes after tie-breakers.

    But there is another layer here as you mentioned.

    Orlando is really tanking hard so if Byron doesn't field his worst roster (they've pretty much put everyone on injured reserved that they could), the Lakers could actually jump to 5 if they win a few more too.

    This is a MAJOR issue, as you know well, because if they get to the 5th worst record it is a virtual guarantee they will lose their draft pick as virtually every year, at least one team below 5 leapfrogs the pack.

    The Lakers could really go on a run to secure their spot at 3 if they lost tonight and tie the Sixers in the win column (and then lose a bunch more to stay at 3 and virtually guarantee their pick).

    But the Sixers have been winning a bit 3-4 in their last 7 which is outstanding for them.

    Plus the Lakers already beat the Sixers recently which is probably why this line is at 4.5.

    I just don't understand what the Lakers are doing if they win this game. But ultimately, when it comes to tanking, the players have the control so whatever the front office wants they don't always get.

    The funny thing is, the Lakers have been playing hard enough of late to stay within a lot of spreads so losing isn't a problem but the spread is.

    So the Sixers ML here solves that.

    Let's just hope the Lakers players comply tonight. Just remember, the Sixers want to tank badly too and are masters at it, far better than the Lakers are.

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    This is a very interesting Lakers Sixers game BB.

    Both teams have tanked incessantly throughout the entire year and we are coming down the stretch with a H2H tonight.

    The Sixers are one game up on the Lakers and if the Lakers win this game, after all the tie-breakers, and given how rarely teams at the bottom win, they lock up the 4th spot. If the Sixers lose, they can lock up the 3rd spot for all intents and purposes after tie-breakers.

    But there is another layer here as you mentioned.

    Orlando is really tanking hard so if Byron doesn't field his worst roster (they've pretty much put everyone on injured reserved that they could), the Lakers could actually jump to 5 if they win a few more too.

    This is a MAJOR issue, as you know well, because if they get to the 5th worst record it is a virtual guarantee they will lose their draft pick as virtually every year, at least one team below 5 leapfrogs the pack.

    The Lakers could really go on a run to secure their spot at 3 if they lost tonight and tie the Sixers in the win column (and then lose a bunch more to stay at 3 and virtually guarantee their pick).

    But the Sixers have been winning a bit 3-4 in their last 7 which is outstanding for them.

    Plus the Lakers already beat the Sixers recently which is probably why this line is at 4.5.

    I just don't understand what the Lakers are doing if they win this game. But ultimately, when it comes to tanking, the players have the control so whatever the front office wants they don't always get.

    The funny thing is, the Lakers have been playing hard enough of late to stay within a lot of spreads so losing isn't a problem but the spread is.

    So the Sixers ML here solves that.

    Let's just hope the Lakers players comply tonight. Just remember, the Sixers want to tank badly too and are masters at it, far better than the Lakers are.

     
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    Like it!  I'm joining.

    I was reading on rotoworld about how the Lakers deactivated Ed Davis last night and he was pissed about it.  There is speculation the Lakers are limiting his exposure so as to possible reduce his market value. If the Lakers are willing to be exposed for doing that, what's going to stop them from losing this game tonight?

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    Like it!  I'm joining.

    I was reading on rotoworld about how the Lakers deactivated Ed Davis last night and he was pissed about it.  There is speculation the Lakers are limiting his exposure so as to possible reduce his market value. If the Lakers are willing to be exposed for doing that, what's going to stop them from losing this game tonight?

     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2015 - 12:10 PM ET #15

    What's the reason to assume or NOT assume that tonight's 76ers game being identical to the one played last week?
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    What's the reason to assume or NOT assume that tonight's 76ers game being identical to the one played last week?
     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2015 - 12:13 PM ET #16

    The Spurs would dismantle the Cavs if they began a series tomorrow.
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    The Spurs would dismantle the Cavs if they began a series tomorrow.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    This is a very interesting Lakers Sixers game BB.

    Both teams have tanked incessantly throughout the entire year and we are coming down the stretch with a H2H tonight.

    The Sixers are one game up on the Lakers and if the Lakers win this game, after all the tie-breakers, and given how rarely teams at the bottom win, they lock up the 4th spot. If the Sixers lose, they can lock up the 3rd spot for all intents and purposes after tie-breakers.

    But there is another layer here as you mentioned.

    Orlando is really tanking hard so if Byron doesn't field his worst roster (they've pretty much put everyone on injured reserved that they could), the Lakers could actually jump to 5 if they win a few more too.

    This is a MAJOR issue, as you know well, because if they get to the 5th worst record it is a virtual guarantee they will lose their draft pick as virtually every year, at least one team below 5 leapfrogs the pack.

    The Lakers could really go on a run to secure their spot at 3 if they lost tonight and tie the Sixers in the win column (and then lose a bunch more to stay at 3 and virtually guarantee their pick).

    But the Sixers have been winning a bit 3-4 in their last 7 which is outstanding for them.

    Plus the Lakers already beat the Sixers recently which is probably why this line is at 4.5.

    I just don't understand what the Lakers are doing if they win this game. But ultimately, when it comes to tanking, the players have the control so whatever the front office wants they don't always get.

    The funny thing is, the Lakers have been playing hard enough of late to stay within a lot of spreads so losing isn't a problem but the spread is.

    So the Sixers ML here solves that.

    Let's just hope the Lakers players comply tonight. Just remember, the Sixers want to tank badly too and are masters at it, far better than the Lakers are.


    This is gonna be high comedy, Scal. Not sure if I can bet on the sixers with all that juice. As you mentioned, they are much better at tanking than the poor Lakers (who really screwed themselves by beating the likes of Detroit at home, if you recall, and I hope that win bites them in the rear end in the end). But I did include them in the parlay. But maybe tanking teams take turns beating each other, part of their "code of dis-honor," if you will  
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    This is a very interesting Lakers Sixers game BB.

    Both teams have tanked incessantly throughout the entire year and we are coming down the stretch with a H2H tonight.

    The Sixers are one game up on the Lakers and if the Lakers win this game, after all the tie-breakers, and given how rarely teams at the bottom win, they lock up the 4th spot. If the Sixers lose, they can lock up the 3rd spot for all intents and purposes after tie-breakers.

    But there is another layer here as you mentioned.

    Orlando is really tanking hard so if Byron doesn't field his worst roster (they've pretty much put everyone on injured reserved that they could), the Lakers could actually jump to 5 if they win a few more too.

    This is a MAJOR issue, as you know well, because if they get to the 5th worst record it is a virtual guarantee they will lose their draft pick as virtually every year, at least one team below 5 leapfrogs the pack.

    The Lakers could really go on a run to secure their spot at 3 if they lost tonight and tie the Sixers in the win column (and then lose a bunch more to stay at 3 and virtually guarantee their pick).

    But the Sixers have been winning a bit 3-4 in their last 7 which is outstanding for them.

    Plus the Lakers already beat the Sixers recently which is probably why this line is at 4.5.

    I just don't understand what the Lakers are doing if they win this game. But ultimately, when it comes to tanking, the players have the control so whatever the front office wants they don't always get.

    The funny thing is, the Lakers have been playing hard enough of late to stay within a lot of spreads so losing isn't a problem but the spread is.

    So the Sixers ML here solves that.

    Let's just hope the Lakers players comply tonight. Just remember, the Sixers want to tank badly too and are masters at it, far better than the Lakers are.


    This is gonna be high comedy, Scal. Not sure if I can bet on the sixers with all that juice. As you mentioned, they are much better at tanking than the poor Lakers (who really screwed themselves by beating the likes of Detroit at home, if you recall, and I hope that win bites them in the rear end in the end). But I did include them in the parlay. But maybe tanking teams take turns beating each other, part of their "code of dis-honor," if you will  
     
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    Interesting.  I still think at some point you need to evaluate how the talent matches up against each other.  Angles are nice but unless it's painfully obvious a team isn't trying, the talent level is high enough in the NBA that most teams can compete.  That's how the NBA has improved. 

    It's still stuck in neutral, however, when it comes to having enough teams compete for a championship.  It's only around 5 or 6 teams usually.  Also, sometimes players just don't show up for a night and try that hard.  Anyone who's watched sports long enough knows that's a fact.
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    Interesting.  I still think at some point you need to evaluate how the talent matches up against each other.  Angles are nice but unless it's painfully obvious a team isn't trying, the talent level is high enough in the NBA that most teams can compete.  That's how the NBA has improved. 

    It's still stuck in neutral, however, when it comes to having enough teams compete for a championship.  It's only around 5 or 6 teams usually.  Also, sometimes players just don't show up for a night and try that hard.  Anyone who's watched sports long enough knows that's a fact.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:


    This is gonna be high comedy, Scal. Not sure if I can bet on the sixers with all that juice. As you mentioned, they are much better at tanking than the poor Lakers (who really screwed themselves by beating the likes of Detroit at home, if you recall, and I hope that win bites them in the rear end in the end). But I did include them in the parlay. But maybe tanking teams take turns beating each other, part of their "code of dis-honor," if you will  

    Another layer that complicates this Sixers lakers game is the team who gets the lakers pick if it falls out of the top 5 (i.e. The team that wants the lakers to keep winning)...the sixers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:


    This is gonna be high comedy, Scal. Not sure if I can bet on the sixers with all that juice. As you mentioned, they are much better at tanking than the poor Lakers (who really screwed themselves by beating the likes of Detroit at home, if you recall, and I hope that win bites them in the rear end in the end). But I did include them in the parlay. But maybe tanking teams take turns beating each other, part of their "code of dis-honor," if you will  

    Another layer that complicates this Sixers lakers game is the team who gets the lakers pick if it falls out of the top 5 (i.e. The team that wants the lakers to keep winning)...the sixers!
     
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    Good info BB
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    Good info BB
     
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    Begginerboy how is going your betting NBA season, profitable?
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    Begginerboy how is going your betting NBA season, profitable?
     
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    Posted: Mar. 30, 2015 - 3:02 PM ET #22

    Who is everyone tanking so hard to get?
    We should stop eating bananas.
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    Who is everyone tanking so hard to get?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    Another layer that complicates this Sixers lakers game is the team who gets the lakers pick if it falls out of the top 5 (i.e. The team that wants the lakers to keep winning)...the sixers!

    You can't make this crap up. Wish I could see the game, or better yet, wish I had cameras on Kupchak and Buss watching the game. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    Another layer that complicates this Sixers lakers game is the team who gets the lakers pick if it falls out of the top 5 (i.e. The team that wants the lakers to keep winning)...the sixers!

    You can't make this crap up. Wish I could see the game, or better yet, wish I had cameras on Kupchak and Buss watching the game. 
     
     
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    lakers win

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    lakers win

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