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begginerboy

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Posted: Mar. 31, 2015 - 2:05 AM ET #51

https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/3/30/8317335/the-lakers-won-at-the-buzzer-and-their-fans-are-furious

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scalabrine

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Posted: Mar. 31, 2015 - 2:59 AM ET #52

Tha Lakers are famous for this and I understand why the fans are ready to jump from the rooftops. They did the same thing last year BB winning their final two games (one against the Spurs!) to drop from a potential 5th to a guaranteed 7th.

They lost out on a desperately needed point guard (who at the time was quite intriguing in Dante Exum) and got Julius Randle, who broke his leg in the first game and was out for the year.

Why sign and D-leaguer who can play? Well this guy was the D league's leading scorer. That is who you grab 90% of the time if you are an NBA team fishing there. If you sign anyone else, you REALLY raise the red flags to Silver and company as to what the hell you are doing (and they know what you are doing, but you have to do it with style.) OT games are stylish!

But there is so much on the line here! One of the top 3/4 picks can really help a bad team!

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golfing123

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Posted: Mar. 31, 2015 - 5:46 AM ET #53

Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

Hey golfing. Shut the fu** up before I do it for you.

Bb posted a $50 play on a ML parlay. I ended up putting nothing on the game precisely because the Sixers needed the lakers to win, not lose, and I said this specifically.

Bb asks you to 'read more carefully'.

I won't even give you that much credit. You didn't read shi* because your post is a total misinterpretation of the thread where there are 44 more posts than the OP.

Now get back in your hole bit**. I'm tired of seeing you in my threads and others running your sorry as* mouth and contribute nothing else otherwise (and talk about contributing, BB created a thread that went far beyond this game in terms of thoughts on the season). Take some notes and keep your mouth shut.

I know bb did not bet ML. But you did and now you twist the truth. Maybe you should reread your own post. Further more, this is not YOUR thread. 40% capper turned internet tough guy. Nothing but a PC JUNKIE.

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begginerboy

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Posted: Mar. 31, 2015 - 8:38 AM ET #54

Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

Tha Lakers are famous for this and I understand why the fans are ready to jump from the rooftops. They did the same thing last year BB winning their final two games (one against the Spurs!) to drop from a potential 5th to a guaranteed 7th.

They lost out on a desperately needed point guard (who at the time was quite intriguing in Dante Exum) and got Julius Randle, who broke his leg in the first game and was out for the year.

Why sign and D-leaguer who can play? Well this guy was the D league's leading scorer. That is who you grab 90% of the time if you are an NBA team fishing there. If you sign anyone else, you REALLY raise the red flags to Silver and company as to what the hell you are doing (and they know what you are doing, but you have to do it with style.) OT games are stylish!

But there is so much on the line here! One of the top 3/4 picks can really help a bad team!

I understand them screwing it up last year, cause it was D'Antoni. He knew he was on his way out and didn't care about the franchise. That's why they hired Scott this year. He is a company man. If you recall my thread from a couple of months back about the art of tanking, I said Scott had mastered it. The Lakers were playing just hard enough to lose. In hindsight, he was playing with fire. He got too caught up in coaching these guys up (I think he tore into them during halftime when the sixers visited LA) and is now paying the price. That win against the Pistons and a couple of others (against the Wolves and the Sixers) are now going to be very costly. Even the league can't seem to help them, as the sixers missed free throw after free throw.

They now must lose out, but will they? Guys are playing for their NBA careers. I think just as with Rondo and the Celtics last year, the Lakers need a mole. Instead of benching Lin they need to pull him aside and tell him what needs to be done. Unlike the other scrubs, he has some job security. A few timely turnovers should do it. And really, it wouldn't be asking much, considering what they're paying him vs what he is worth. Lin is a good soldier. I think he would do it.

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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

Tha Lakers are famous for this and I understand why the fans are ready to jump from the rooftops. They did the same thing last year BB winning their final two games (one against the Spurs!) to drop from a potential 5th to a guaranteed 7th.

They lost out on a desperately needed point guard (who at the time was quite intriguing in Dante Exum) and got Julius Randle, who broke his leg in the first game and was out for the year.

Why sign and D-leaguer who can play? Well this guy was the D league's leading scorer. That is who you grab 90% of the time if you are an NBA team fishing there. If you sign anyone else, you REALLY raise the red flags to Silver and company as to what the hell you are doing (and they know what you are doing, but you have to do it with style.) OT games are stylish!

But there is so much on the line here! One of the top 3/4 picks can really help a bad team!

I understand them screwing it up last year, cause it was D'Antoni. He knew he was on his way out and didn't care about the franchise. That's why they hired Scott this year. He is a company man. If you recall my thread from a couple of months back about the art of tanking, I said Scott had mastered it. The Lakers were playing just hard enough to lose. In hindsight, he was playing with fire. He got too caught up in coaching these guys up (I think he tore into them during halftime when the sixers visited LA) and is now paying the price. That win against the Pistons and a couple of others (against the Wolves and the Sixers) are now going to be very costly. Even the league can't seem to help them, as the sixers missed free throw after free throw.

They now must lose out, but will they? Guys are playing for their NBA careers. I think just as with Rondo and the Celtics last year, the Lakers need a mole. Instead of benching Lin they need to pull him aside and tell him what needs to be done. Unlike the other scrubs, he has some job security. A few timely turnovers should do it. And really, it wouldn't be asking much, considering what they're paying him vs what he is worth. Lin is a good soldier. I think he would do it.

scalabrine

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Posted: Mar. 31, 2015 - 11:08 AM ET #55

Quote Originally Posted by golfing123:

I know bb did not bet ML. But you did and now you twist the truth. Maybe you should reread your own post. Further more, this is not YOUR thread. 40% capper turned internet tough guy. Nothing but a PC JUNKIE.

Ok, now I made the Sixers ML bet in someone else's thread about a Sixers ML bet (in part).

Kid you don't know down from up or up from down and you are one of the shi*heads who always shows up to dump on people who contribute.

Well guess what? I'll make a fool of ya when you try with the rest of your shi*head brethren who have turned this site into a dumpster fire.

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scalabrine

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Posted: Mar. 31, 2015 - 11:18 AM ET #56

Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:

I understand them screwing it up last year, cause it was D'Antoni. He knew he was on his way out and didn't care about the franchise. That's why they hired Scott this year. He is a company man. If you recall my thread from a couple of months back about the art of tanking, I said Scott had mastered it. The Lakers were playing just hard enough to lose. In hindsight, he was playing with fire. He got too caught up in coaching these guys up (I think he tore into them during halftime when the sixers visited LA) and is now paying the price. That win against the Pistons and a couple of others (against the Wolves and the Sixers) are now going to be very costly. Even the league can't seem to help them, as the sixers missed free throw after free throw.

They now must lose out, but will they? Guys are playing for their NBA careers. I think just as with Rondo and the Celtics last year, the Lakers need a mole. Instead of benching Lin they need to pull him aside and tell him what needs to be done. Unlike the other scrubs, he has some job security. A few timely turnovers should do it. And really, it wouldn't be asking much, considering what they're paying him vs what he is worth. Lin is a good soldier. I think he would do it.

Your first paragraph is all correct but they didn't just win that last Spurs game for D'Antoni (or his unwillingness to tank). The Spurs CRUSHED them that year and didn't care much about that game but the Lakers should have cared less but wanted a bit of revenge to salvage their as*-whippings.

And this is where it goes back to the players. They care when you least expect it (the Lakers last year winning a game with only 5 active players vs. the Cavs...how times have changed).

And yes, having been a Nets fan for most of my life, Byron is a very proud man who wants to lose to appease Kupchak, but not lose say, 60 like the Knicks are currently doing and yes it will cost them. Especially that Pistons game you mentioned several times.

And to your last paragraph, I love the idea but that will not happen. I think Lin was benched because he 'wasn't feeling well' precisely because he is the least to comply with necessary tanking. This is his contract year and he will have trouble making money in the future (and certainly not $15 million like he's making this year!).

You saw all those guys buddy up (Nick Young (who is done), Lin, Hill) all excited about that win a few weeks back that pist off Kobe on the Kimmell show. They are actually trying to win because they didn't get the memo.

And now, as you said, Scott ripping into them here and there has resulted in a few more wins and solidified the 4th spot for them and if they win a few more, the 5th spot (and then they'll lose the pick because history has had at least one team jump into the top 5, although probability dictates otherwise).