With Alex Smith coming in as QB(wasn't he rated #1 QB in league til he got hurt?), then you still have j. charles and d. bowe coming back. I'm thinking they can be at least a .500 team and get 8 wins, the over 7.5 wins is @ +110 or +120, seems like an obvious bet...don't ya think?
Let's hear why yes or no boys
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With Alex Smith coming in as QB(wasn't he rated #1 QB in league til he got hurt?), then you still have j. charles and d. bowe coming back. I'm thinking they can be at least a .500 team and get 8 wins, the over 7.5 wins is @ +110 or +120, seems like an obvious bet...don't ya think?
I think the fact that oddsmakers have their team total at 7.5 after having the worst record in the league last year alone supports the following facts:
1) reid is a good coach and will be worth a win or two
2) this team does have talent and the team under--performed its talent last year
3) smith is a huge upgrade at QB
Turnovers from the QB position killed this team last year. There is talent on this team no doubt, as they had 6 or 7 "pro-bowlers" (in quotes because we all know half the league is pro-bowlers now with all the replacements).
Always hard to judge strength of schedule at the start of the year, but the schedule does seem very favorable. They play the AFC south (with houston and indy at home), NFC east and their two at-large games are vs cleveland and @ buffalo.
They have a decent shot of getting over. i don't like their post-bye schedule, having to face denver twice and ending the season with 3 of 4 on the road, so it seems they need to be atleast 5-4 after 9 games going into the bye.
No play for me at the moment, as 7.5 is a fair line, but i like the over with plus money. I think it depends on how good the NFC east teams turn out to be this year. If Giants and Cowboys are good enough to go into arrowhead and win, then it might be tough for them hit 8-8
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I think the fact that oddsmakers have their team total at 7.5 after having the worst record in the league last year alone supports the following facts:
1) reid is a good coach and will be worth a win or two
2) this team does have talent and the team under--performed its talent last year
3) smith is a huge upgrade at QB
Turnovers from the QB position killed this team last year. There is talent on this team no doubt, as they had 6 or 7 "pro-bowlers" (in quotes because we all know half the league is pro-bowlers now with all the replacements).
Always hard to judge strength of schedule at the start of the year, but the schedule does seem very favorable. They play the AFC south (with houston and indy at home), NFC east and their two at-large games are vs cleveland and @ buffalo.
They have a decent shot of getting over. i don't like their post-bye schedule, having to face denver twice and ending the season with 3 of 4 on the road, so it seems they need to be atleast 5-4 after 9 games going into the bye.
No play for me at the moment, as 7.5 is a fair line, but i like the over with plus money. I think it depends on how good the NFC east teams turn out to be this year. If Giants and Cowboys are good enough to go into arrowhead and win, then it might be tough for them hit 8-8
Reid is a terrible coach NOW, horrible game manager especially late in games; that wasn't always the case in the past but it is now. I'd probably take the under.
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Reid is a terrible coach NOW, horrible game manager especially late in games; that wasn't always the case in the past but it is now. I'd probably take the under.
yeah i couldnt bet this over if anything i would be on the under 7.5....they had quite a few injuries last year and played every game essentially without a QB but there schedule is tough, oakland are cr@p this year but the chargers will be much improved now that the dead weight is out(AJ and norv) Mccoy will whip that team into shape....
the games cantor have priced up they have them 7-8(dont price week 17 because obviously stars could be rested etc)>>
Kansas City Chiefs (-3) at Jacksonville Jaguars
Dallas Cowboys (-1.5) at Kansas City Chiefs
Kansas City Chiefs at Philadelphia Eagles (-3)
New York Giants (-1.5) at Kansas City Chiefs
Kansas City Chiefs at Tennessee Titans (PK)
Oakland Raiders at Kansas City Chiefs (-4.5)
Houston Texans (-2.5) at Kansas City Chiefs
Cleveland Browns at Kansas City Chiefs (-2.5)
Kansas City Chiefs at Buffalo Bills (-1.5)
BYE
Kansas City Chiefs at Denver Broncos (-7.5)
San Diego Chargers at Kansas City Chiefs (-1)
Denver Broncos (-4) at Kansas City Chiefs
Kansas City Chiefs at Washington Redskins (-4.5)
Kansas City Chiefs at Oakland Raiders (PK)
Indianapolis Colts at Kansas City Chiefs (-1)
they play@ san diego week 17 and as i mentioned above i couldnt give them a win there at this point....
bottom line is i wouldnt play this game yeah they have aj smith but i dont really think he is that good, dont get me wrong at least they have a qb now but i think alot of smiths' success was down to the system in place with harbaugh, i definatly think reid will be an upgrade as well but again going back to the schedule it isnt a walk in the park and your asking for alot of the new 'parts' to fit and work to the best of their abilities, i'm not buying it just yet.....
all the best though!
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yeah i couldnt bet this over if anything i would be on the under 7.5....they had quite a few injuries last year and played every game essentially without a QB but there schedule is tough, oakland are cr@p this year but the chargers will be much improved now that the dead weight is out(AJ and norv) Mccoy will whip that team into shape....
the games cantor have priced up they have them 7-8(dont price week 17 because obviously stars could be rested etc)>>
Kansas City Chiefs (-3) at Jacksonville Jaguars
Dallas Cowboys (-1.5) at Kansas City Chiefs
Kansas City Chiefs at Philadelphia Eagles (-3)
New York Giants (-1.5) at Kansas City Chiefs
Kansas City Chiefs at Tennessee Titans (PK)
Oakland Raiders at Kansas City Chiefs (-4.5)
Houston Texans (-2.5) at Kansas City Chiefs
Cleveland Browns at Kansas City Chiefs (-2.5)
Kansas City Chiefs at Buffalo Bills (-1.5)
BYE
Kansas City Chiefs at Denver Broncos (-7.5)
San Diego Chargers at Kansas City Chiefs (-1)
Denver Broncos (-4) at Kansas City Chiefs
Kansas City Chiefs at Washington Redskins (-4.5)
Kansas City Chiefs at Oakland Raiders (PK)
Indianapolis Colts at Kansas City Chiefs (-1)
they play@ san diego week 17 and as i mentioned above i couldnt give them a win there at this point....
bottom line is i wouldnt play this game yeah they have aj smith but i dont really think he is that good, dont get me wrong at least they have a qb now but i think alot of smiths' success was down to the system in place with harbaugh, i definatly think reid will be an upgrade as well but again going back to the schedule it isnt a walk in the park and your asking for alot of the new 'parts' to fit and work to the best of their abilities, i'm not buying it just yet.....
Prior to Harbaugh coaching he played very mediocre when there was pressure on him and I think he will feel the pressure again and struggle.
I agree with what was said about Reid, he is not a great coach, he HAD a great defensive coordinator and that is why the team was good for the years JJ was with the Eagles.
I look forward to smug Andy having to do all this on his own...it should make for an interesting season.
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Smith will struggle IMO..
Prior to Harbaugh coaching he played very mediocre when there was pressure on him and I think he will feel the pressure again and struggle.
I agree with what was said about Reid, he is not a great coach, he HAD a great defensive coordinator and that is why the team was good for the years JJ was with the Eagles.
I look forward to smug Andy having to do all this on his own...it should make for an interesting season.
Agree that reid is a bad in-game coach. not good at making critical decisions. what he is good at is pre-game planning, and developinh team philosophy and team strategy. reid has been very good over the years at making quarterbacks look great, perhaps better than their ability, from mcnabb to kolb to the first year of vick. last year everything fell apart simultaneously from offensive line issues/injuires to a qb that lost his confidence and turned over the ball like it was poisonois to the defense outright quitting. yes there were games where the defense quit like vs carolina or on the road vs washington.
Cant throw away 10 very good years on the basis of one terrible year where everyone that could have went wrong did. reid has his weaknesses as an in-game coach, but he will do much better creating team chemistry and cohesion that crenel, and the combination of a qb that doesnt turn over the ball, a rejuvanated offensive line, and reida game-planning will result in a much better looking chiefs team. the offensive line will also really help the running game, which is what drove the chiefs to a 10 win season a couple of years ago
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Agree that reid is a bad in-game coach. not good at making critical decisions. what he is good at is pre-game planning, and developinh team philosophy and team strategy. reid has been very good over the years at making quarterbacks look great, perhaps better than their ability, from mcnabb to kolb to the first year of vick. last year everything fell apart simultaneously from offensive line issues/injuires to a qb that lost his confidence and turned over the ball like it was poisonois to the defense outright quitting. yes there were games where the defense quit like vs carolina or on the road vs washington.
Cant throw away 10 very good years on the basis of one terrible year where everyone that could have went wrong did. reid has his weaknesses as an in-game coach, but he will do much better creating team chemistry and cohesion that crenel, and the combination of a qb that doesnt turn over the ball, a rejuvanated offensive line, and reida game-planning will result in a much better looking chiefs team. the offensive line will also really help the running game, which is what drove the chiefs to a 10 win season a couple of years ago
Reids big mistake.last year was firing his defensive coodinator midway through the year. defense wasnt the problem during the first part of the season. turnovers from vick and bad offensive playcalling were the problem. then reid fired the d-coordinator and the defense completely fell apart and was the problem after their bye.
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Reids big mistake.last year was firing his defensive coodinator midway through the year. defense wasnt the problem during the first part of the season. turnovers from vick and bad offensive playcalling were the problem. then reid fired the d-coordinator and the defense completely fell apart and was the problem after their bye.
Reids big mistake.last year was firing his defensive coodinator midway through the year. defense wasnt the problem during the first part of the season. turnovers from vick and bad offensive playcalling were the problem. then reid fired the d-coordinator and the defense completely fell apart and was the problem after their bye.
Didn't he lose his sone last year as well?? I'm sure that played a major distraction as well
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Quote Originally Posted by bob696969:
Reids big mistake.last year was firing his defensive coodinator midway through the year. defense wasnt the problem during the first part of the season. turnovers from vick and bad offensive playcalling were the problem. then reid fired the d-coordinator and the defense completely fell apart and was the problem after their bye.
Didn't he lose his sone last year as well?? I'm sure that played a major distraction as well
keep in mind he gets to fac dennis allen and mike mccoy twice...no coinsidence.he picked the chiefs for a reason they will be much improved under reid immediately 7.5 is a tough # but w/o looking at the schedule i think with the current defense in place they should easily win 7-8 games
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keep in mind he gets to fac dennis allen and mike mccoy twice...no coinsidence.he picked the chiefs for a reason they will be much improved under reid immediately 7.5 is a tough # but w/o looking at the schedule i think with the current defense in place they should easily win 7-8 games
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