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capperator

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Posted: Feb. 6, 2019 - 11:14 AM ET #26

Patriots are the best in the business. They are hands down the hardest working team in the nfl. If you think they’re lucky, then it’s because they worked for and earned that luck

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Posted: Feb. 6, 2019 - 12:22 PM ET #27

I think there's definitely been some luck. No matter how good you are, you don't win this much w/out a little luck but it's also hard work and having a really good coach and a really good QB together for two decades. It's been drafting guys that fit a system, offensively and defensively. High character guys that play hard. And finally, maybe a little help from the league/refs. Look, i'm from Oakland. I can't act like the snow job didn't happen but even then, Adam V still had to nail a FG in the snow. Maybe if he doesn't, the Raiders aren't moving.

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Posted: Feb. 6, 2019 - 5:01 PM ET #28

Patriots beat the rams straight up man for man, 13-3 final indicates that. More dominant in every part of the game. Credit the coaches for teaching the fundamentals to the players to get them ready to play and beat the guys in front of them. Throughout the year in every televised patriots game I watched I kept on hearing from the announcers preach about the great technique this defense had. The Patriots are good, the rest of the league is just trash. Pats lose out on dion lewis, Sony Michel has an incredible year and playoffs as a rookie. No longer have Nate solder, no problem, Brady gets sacked just once in the playoffs. No more Malcolm Butler, shut down fastest guy in the nfl no problem. Lol

There is no argument

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Crusher13

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Posted: Feb. 6, 2019 - 8:52 PM ET #29

Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

Every team in the league wishes they were that mediocre...

Is this some kind of joke? 13 AFC Championship games in 19 years and 8 in a row? In an era where parity is the objective at every turn. Draft no better than 28th each year, usually 30th. When the Pats schedule comes out, it comes with a bye and divisional playoff & Championship game listed as TBA.

I agree they are lucky but they don't beat themselves. Have you ever seen them have a penalty where a D-linemen is a foot offsides? Do they ever have a Bell or Brown situation on their hands EVER? They draft Edelman at 232nd and the GOAT at 199th... Smart, team guys, certainly there are exceptions but they seem to disappear quickly, they don't depend on a Bell or Brown BECAUSE THEY'RE SELFISH AND UNDEPENDABLE.

It's insulting and I agree with NN and I'll be nice dumb... I bet against them in the 2 playoff games but after taking down Rivers in what looked like "his year" and then the MVP of the league, how can you bet the Rams when they stole that ticket into the SB... If NE was -3 from the beginning, I go big on them, but the line look like the fix was in again for the RAMS. Talk about luck, 2 refs went blind to keep them in that game. There's never been anything like that while I've been watching football, 50 years now.

No doubt the Patriots are very fortunate and the other team seems to constantly help them (D Ford & Carroll pass on the 1 yard line), but you can't blame the Patriots for that.

First, OP, this is a GREAT post SB thread..and I agree with many of your initial points..

Killer, I used your Qoute because it BEST describes NE situation. I have many many points to add but for now..I just want to say The 90's Cowboys and those 49er teams would absolutely dominate and destroy any of these PATS squads except for the one with Randy Moss..Will be back to chime in much more later..Have at it Cova's brothers....

One last tidbit.....think of all HOF QB's that REALLY are much better than TB..he was VERY VERY lucky to be teamed with Belicheat and their CHEMISTRY with their WORK effort are MAIN Reasons they've had so much success (along with playing in AFC East)..