Bears are without a doubt the best bet of the regular season in the NFL... blows my fucking mind that people think the Oakland Raiders can beat this team, regardless of who's playing QB...
do people not see how much time Cutler has had to throw all year? this game is a trench-warfare mismatch... this is still the same Raiders team that got absolutely slaughtered by Kansas City...
wow! people putting their money on the Raiders in this game... WOW!
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Bears are without a doubt the best bet of the regular season in the NFL... blows my fucking mind that people think the Oakland Raiders can beat this team, regardless of who's playing QB...
do people not see how much time Cutler has had to throw all year? this game is a trench-warfare mismatch... this is still the same Raiders team that got absolutely slaughtered by Kansas City...
wow! people putting their money on the Raiders in this game... WOW!
Lions are the #4 team in the NFL (7-3 SU)... Falcons are the 10th best team in the NFL (6-4 SU)...
cracks me the FUCK up though, that you question those two, and yet you have no problem with the JETS (#13 at 5-5 SU) being listed as a quality win for the Raiders... i actually gave the Raiders the benefit of the doubt on all close ones, and i didn't give the Bears the benefit of the doubt... in other words, the shit i listed above, is skewed to make the Raiders not look as bad, just so that nobody can accuse me of painting the roses red...
next time, just say this: "i am going to bet on the Raiders and think it is a great bet no matter HOW MUCH evidence to the contrary is presented to me!"
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Quote Originally Posted by west44:
ice 4 blood
beating lions is huge ??? and falcons ???
whatever
Lions are the #4 team in the NFL (7-3 SU)... Falcons are the 10th best team in the NFL (6-4 SU)...
cracks me the FUCK up though, that you question those two, and yet you have no problem with the JETS (#13 at 5-5 SU) being listed as a quality win for the Raiders... i actually gave the Raiders the benefit of the doubt on all close ones, and i didn't give the Bears the benefit of the doubt... in other words, the shit i listed above, is skewed to make the Raiders not look as bad, just so that nobody can accuse me of painting the roses red...
next time, just say this: "i am going to bet on the Raiders and think it is a great bet no matter HOW MUCH evidence to the contrary is presented to me!"
in terms of performance ratings... based on a 1-10 base scale, giving weight for margin of victory and strength of opponent... if we rate every performance for every team in the NFL, the highest possible score a team could get is a 17, and the lowest possible is a (-6)...
the Bears victory over Detroit rates as a 13 (no other team has rated higher than 11, if i'm not mistaken)
the Raiders loss to KC rates as a (-2)... no other team has rated below a 0, if i'm not mistaken)
so yes! for sure! without a doubt! beating the Lions the way the Bears did... IS HUGE! to answer your question... thanks for the inquiry...
i do not do research lightly or loosely... i get about as deep up these teams' asses as anybody around here... don't question: listen!
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in terms of performance ratings... based on a 1-10 base scale, giving weight for margin of victory and strength of opponent... if we rate every performance for every team in the NFL, the highest possible score a team could get is a 17, and the lowest possible is a (-6)...
the Bears victory over Detroit rates as a 13 (no other team has rated higher than 11, if i'm not mistaken)
the Raiders loss to KC rates as a (-2)... no other team has rated below a 0, if i'm not mistaken)
so yes! for sure! without a doubt! beating the Lions the way the Bears did... IS HUGE! to answer your question... thanks for the inquiry...
i do not do research lightly or loosely... i get about as deep up these teams' asses as anybody around here... don't question: listen!
Line is down to 3.5. Every time recently I've seen a line shift like this, the "smart money" loses - easily. I appreciate the love for the Bears and people putting their money where their mouth is. Carson Palmer is looking good, the Raiders played great last week and Minny and play hard every game.
Only a fool would bring up the KC game as evidence against them. They started Kyle Boller and he gift wrapped the game for the Chiefs.
It's ancient history and meant nothing the next game they played and has even less value to handicapping this game.
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Line is down to 3.5. Every time recently I've seen a line shift like this, the "smart money" loses - easily. I appreciate the love for the Bears and people putting their money where their mouth is. Carson Palmer is looking good, the Raiders played great last week and Minny and play hard every game.
Only a fool would bring up the KC game as evidence against them. They started Kyle Boller and he gift wrapped the game for the Chiefs.
It's ancient history and meant nothing the next game they played and has even less value to handicapping this game.
West... some of your statements are utterly ridiculous, and if you are saying Detroit and Atlanta suck... what does that say about the teams Oakland has played?
i know this isn't the same Oakland team as last year... what exactly are you saying with this statement? that i did ALL OF THIS homework on these two teams, but somehow i am just throwing money into the wind thinking this is the same Oakland team as previous years?
this is a battle or perception vs. reality... people think Oakland is a quality team, because they don't recognize how bad the AFC West is (in 30 years of football, this is one of the 3 worst divisions i have ever seen)... and they don't realize how good the NFC Central is (in 30 years of football, this is one of the 3 best divisions i have ever seen)...
you get an opportunity like this maybe once a year...
the fact so many people are so fucking clueless and oblivious to this fact (including you West, even though you think the Bears is a good bet)... is a testament to how utterly worthless the handicapping is on this website...
it is nothing short of shameful!
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West... some of your statements are utterly ridiculous, and if you are saying Detroit and Atlanta suck... what does that say about the teams Oakland has played?
i know this isn't the same Oakland team as last year... what exactly are you saying with this statement? that i did ALL OF THIS homework on these two teams, but somehow i am just throwing money into the wind thinking this is the same Oakland team as previous years?
this is a battle or perception vs. reality... people think Oakland is a quality team, because they don't recognize how bad the AFC West is (in 30 years of football, this is one of the 3 worst divisions i have ever seen)... and they don't realize how good the NFC Central is (in 30 years of football, this is one of the 3 best divisions i have ever seen)...
you get an opportunity like this maybe once a year...
the fact so many people are so fucking clueless and oblivious to this fact (including you West, even though you think the Bears is a good bet)... is a testament to how utterly worthless the handicapping is on this website...
Listen asshole - Carson Palmer IS A BACKUP QB as well.
He didn't even have a job over summer since he is such a fucking dumbass and cost Bengals over 7 Games last year with his ineptness.
This Game has Bookie dirt all over it. You think Chicago gonna just lie down and lose to this crap team. I seen the Raiders in Games they won. They are a low win probability team against anyone they play.
The Bears imo were a chance to upset the Packers in the NFC. They still are. And before you contest this opinion - how many times have you been screwed by +800 teams by going for easy money.
Just be aware I pick upsets. I picked the Seahawks to beat Saints last year in the Playoffs, I picked NY Giants to knock off Packers 3 weeks ago, I even picked Rams to beat Saints over some 6 weeks ago. I been doing this for 5 years and I pick upsets.
How and Why? Because I know what teams and players are like. I have the instincts. They may not be right 20% of the time but I got 80% to ride shotgun with.
You should'nt have to call other cappers on here names your a bigger man then that, gl on your play ff.
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Quote Originally Posted by Spooker:
Listen asshole - Carson Palmer IS A BACKUP QB as well.
He didn't even have a job over summer since he is such a fucking dumbass and cost Bengals over 7 Games last year with his ineptness.
This Game has Bookie dirt all over it. You think Chicago gonna just lie down and lose to this crap team. I seen the Raiders in Games they won. They are a low win probability team against anyone they play.
The Bears imo were a chance to upset the Packers in the NFC. They still are. And before you contest this opinion - how many times have you been screwed by +800 teams by going for easy money.
Just be aware I pick upsets. I picked the Seahawks to beat Saints last year in the Playoffs, I picked NY Giants to knock off Packers 3 weeks ago, I even picked Rams to beat Saints over some 6 weeks ago. I been doing this for 5 years and I pick upsets.
How and Why? Because I know what teams and players are like. I have the instincts. They may not be right 20% of the time but I got 80% to ride shotgun with.
You should'nt have to call other cappers on here names your a bigger man then that, gl on your play ff.
but if you are paying attention , this isnt the raiders of 2 or 3 years ago
this is not a slam dunk for for the bears
Urlacher is a stud , defense is pretty good
i love that guy , Forte should be able to run . Bears have
a good shot , take the 4
dont annoint them as being so fucking good though
atlanta sucks , detroit is over rated and is starting lose now #4 according to who ??
in nfc alone ? maybe but that is changing with every game
oakland is
7-3 ats ...
just saying be careful
NFL is hard to cap this year , other than the packers
anything seems to be possible by just about any other team
I agree with you,don't bother with ice4blood the guy acts like everything he says is right,he's a know it all.He was all over the Lions and 49ers on Thanksgiving.
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Quote Originally Posted by west44:
not bettin on raiders .......
but if you are paying attention , this isnt the raiders of 2 or 3 years ago
this is not a slam dunk for for the bears
Urlacher is a stud , defense is pretty good
i love that guy , Forte should be able to run . Bears have
a good shot , take the 4
dont annoint them as being so fucking good though
atlanta sucks , detroit is over rated and is starting lose now #4 according to who ??
in nfc alone ? maybe but that is changing with every game
oakland is
7-3 ats ...
just saying be careful
NFL is hard to cap this year , other than the packers
anything seems to be possible by just about any other team
I agree with you,don't bother with ice4blood the guy acts like everything he says is right,he's a know it all.He was all over the Lions and 49ers on Thanksgiving.
I agree with you,don't bother with ice4blood the guy acts like everything he says is right,he's a know it all.He was all over the Lions and 49ers on Thanksgiving.
LMAO! what the fuck!??? i didn't bet a single NFL game on Thanksgiving... the only game i bet on Thanksgiving was Texas, and i made an extensive thread on the subject...
you'll know when i am ALL OVER a team... because there will be threads like this thread, where somebody else posts a play, and i make several extensive posts for reasons why i like it... did the same with Boise Wyoming today...
point is... there is a difference between me saying, "yea the Lions look like the better play," or "i have a feeling they might win this one" on some random thread... and me making posts like #78 above...
but don't ever attribute plays to me that aren't mine... if you're too stupid to figure out which ones i like, and which ones i'm betting, that is YOUR dilemma... don't make it mine, asshole!
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Quote Originally Posted by gilligansisland:
I agree with you,don't bother with ice4blood the guy acts like everything he says is right,he's a know it all.He was all over the Lions and 49ers on Thanksgiving.
LMAO! what the fuck!??? i didn't bet a single NFL game on Thanksgiving... the only game i bet on Thanksgiving was Texas, and i made an extensive thread on the subject...
you'll know when i am ALL OVER a team... because there will be threads like this thread, where somebody else posts a play, and i make several extensive posts for reasons why i like it... did the same with Boise Wyoming today...
point is... there is a difference between me saying, "yea the Lions look like the better play," or "i have a feeling they might win this one" on some random thread... and me making posts like #78 above...
but don't ever attribute plays to me that aren't mine... if you're too stupid to figure out which ones i like, and which ones i'm betting, that is YOUR dilemma... don't make it mine, asshole!
Whatever man, trash-talking the Patriots and saying Lions are number 4 team??? Come on man, are we talking about the same sport here? Whatever, I am just amazed how such extremely stupid things can be said by someone claiming to have been watching the NFL for 30 years? Man, that's 2 years older than my entire life. So, I can say I have been watching the NFL for 9-10 years (you might find out why I am a Patriots fan - man, Brady was on fire in 2002 - the best QB ever!) so I may not have such a big experience like you, but saying that NE is a paper tiger??? Man, really?? Is that out of pure spite or are you just wasted 30+ years of your live watching a game that you don't understand? Because that kind of statements are what make people think that only idiots write in such sport forums. And I am starting to become one of this people - so the Lions are a great team, one of the 4 best in the league and New England are a paper tiger??? Man, you should go check your eyes or better - your brain.
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Whatever man, trash-talking the Patriots and saying Lions are number 4 team??? Come on man, are we talking about the same sport here? Whatever, I am just amazed how such extremely stupid things can be said by someone claiming to have been watching the NFL for 30 years? Man, that's 2 years older than my entire life. So, I can say I have been watching the NFL for 9-10 years (you might find out why I am a Patriots fan - man, Brady was on fire in 2002 - the best QB ever!) so I may not have such a big experience like you, but saying that NE is a paper tiger??? Man, really?? Is that out of pure spite or are you just wasted 30+ years of your live watching a game that you don't understand? Because that kind of statements are what make people think that only idiots write in such sport forums. And I am starting to become one of this people - so the Lions are a great team, one of the 4 best in the league and New England are a paper tiger??? Man, you should go check your eyes or better - your brain.
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