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I am not a bettor, I was a student at the University of Tennessee and alot of my friends bet on the games, mostly pro but some college. My senior year I had to give a 20 minute presentation, including video, on a topic of choice. The instructor gave the class a full semester to work on this so he expected excellence. I chose sports gambling as my topic. This was 1999, when i began my study and continued the study after leaving college. I began to notice certain things that made me think sports in general was rigged or fixed you might say. I collected lines on the games and video taped every college and nfl game i could tape. I can name thousands of instances from 1999 to 2008 I have on tape of referee blunders that only seem to affect the point spread but do occasionally affect the entire outcome of a game. Nothing I have seen in 9 years compared to the steelers-chargers game this past sunday. This was so obvious, I wonder how anyone missed it? pitt was 5 point favorite and the refs were not going to let them cover, period!!! pitt 115 yards in penalties, chargers 5 yards. The biggest question is why did the refs call the players back to the field to kick an extra meaningless point when the clock expired? It seems to make sense but the prior week I taped an nfl game that a team scored a meaningless td at the end and no extra point was kicked.. the teams went to the locker room. What really shows the fix being in was that the refs overturn the meaningless td (if your not a bettor, remember the line is 5, 1 point win vs a 7 point win is only meaningful if you are betting) why waste 20 to 30 minutes trying to decide if pitt wins by 1 or 7 unless you have a vested interest on the outcome? Next attention getter was that the ref's overturn the td then immediately give an interview telling the press that there was confusion and the td should have counted, they blew the call. Refs know all they have to do is say they blew the call and they are excused. How do you blow a call and remain confused when you spent 20 to 30 minutes on this call? If there is any interest in this type of reporting I can site over 1000 cases as clear cut as this case over 9 years of all types of sporting events. Try picking 50 true false questions by just marking t or f without reading the question and you will find your percentage of guessing the correct answer will be close to the percentage of games you predict correctly. This is not by coincidence. Just a warning to bettors, watch the games in a differently and observe what happens when things do not go as planned. I am sure some people will call me a nutjob or think I am mad because I lost money on an errant call but I do not bet so the ladder is out of the question. I may be a nutjob, but not as nuts as you if you bet on a fixed game, Thank you for your time and good luck you will need it.

Richard I have a tape from last week's nfl game I am thinking a bengal game that ended without the extra point being kicked. I will have to review my tapes. The question still remains how can the refs blame confusion on a call that took this long to make? you think it would be confusion if the spread wasn't affected? As for the billion dollar business, I agree but next thing to think about. Ever notice that when a team of any sport gets a new Multimillion dollar stadium, most of the time they win games...A team that can't stick their fingers up their asses are now great with the new stadium? think about that billion dollar business sence.

Realized I misquoted something, the game i taped when no extra point was kicked was a game from 3 or 4 weeks ago and it was an overtime game, that being said no extra point is kicked in ot when a teams scores a td but I am almost sure I have a video of a last second meaningless td without the xtra point kicked from the last couple of years I will need time to look at my archives.

*Oh sry thought you meant coolege too. Never seen an NFL game with no EP here either.

I have watched the SD-pitt last 5 seconds probably 100 times now and still can't see what the refs were talking about. Both latterals were latterals. Nothing was illegal about the latterals and the play was not blown dead. This is the most obvious case I have ever saw of rigging the outcome. Referee Green stated they made a mistake and the TD should have counted less than 5 minutes after walking off the field in an interview. They took 30 minutes to talk about this call and then say they made a mistake five minutes after the outcome? The excuse was confusion on which latteral was illegal? Both were legal so why even discuss this unless you have vested interest in a 5 point (pointspread). Wake up, there will be no punishment as usual for the refs, because they use the same playbook by saying we made a mistake.. oops. Right. Oh and don't forget the 13 to 1 penalties against the steelers that helped keep the game close to begin with. Without the help from refs SD would not even been that close. SD was penalized a total of 5 yards for the game, steelers 115 which is alot considering the game conditions, cold and snow.

I dont think the game (NFL) is fixed.  DO you guys know how much personel, and time it would take to fix a game.  If games were fixed, players would have to be in on it. No player has ever come forth and said the game was fixed.  What finacial incentives does the NFL have in fixing games.  It is the most popular sport in America, and the glamorous teams dont ALWAYS make it to the Super Bowl. Wrestling is fake, Boxing is fixed, and everybody knows it.  These a random occuances were refs blow a call, or teams covers or dont cover at the last minute.  Its funny how everybody will bitch and moan about a last second call, but not about every other call in a game.  I have seen teams get called for so many phantom penalties, and still win the game.  Yelling fix is just a way to cope with the situation.  The linesmakers are some smart fuckers.  They set the lines, and know how to get the betting public to bite.  The NFL makes too much money to fix games.  Now college on the other hand is way easier to fix b/c you can bribe a player with a couple of thousands of dollars, but it would still be hard to fix without more than one player being involved.  Basketball could be fixed, but not football.  Just end this silly talk already.

As far as extra points go, I'm not sure why either team lined up for that. When a TD is scored with no time left on the clock and an extra point is not needed to decide the game, it is never taken in the first place. For college or pro. As far as that play where they called back the TD, that was a clear fix and someone besides the refs made a decision on that one.

i'm sure no further actions will be taken...because it didn't change the outcome of the game...just look back at the bad call in sd/den game...and all the ref did was trying to answer his emails and apoligized somewhat....the NFL is a multi billion $ industry...nothing can bring it down...trust me...

How is it a fix, when Palamalou had no business returning it back anyway.  IF THAT PLAY HAD NOT HAPPENED, which there is no way to tell if it would happen or not, it would not have made a difference.  SHUT this fix shit up for crying out loud.  THE GAME WAS NOT FUCKING FIXED.  Take your losses like a man.  How many games have you watched were a call early in the game killed momentum for a team, and that team lost.  We can put shit together all day on how things are fixed all over, but we wont.  Its a part of the game.  SHIT IS NOT FIXED IN THE NFL.  These guys have more than enough money not to be fixin shit.

"IF THAT PLAY HAD NOT HAPPENED"

wth are you talking about? It did happen. You mind as well say if the game did not happen. And why wouldn't he return it back when he got a chance? The point here is why would the refs went thru so much time to make a bad call? The first call was right, then after the review it was still a TD...then they reversed the call after the review to end up with a bad call....then 5 minutes later, they admitted that they made a mistake....WTF! You're dumb to think all that happened was just a simple human error.

WHO fuckin cares.  We, the gamblers are the only people who cares about this. 

You just answered your question genious. And you think it's ok for people to cheat?? Do you remember Tim Donaghy? So, if you are a gambler and you care, wtf are you going to do?

REFS make 42,295 - 120,998 for four months of work one day a week, thats damn good if you ask me.  And about it being about the ref, so what.  Palamalou had no business trying to run it back anyway.  Had he dove on the ball like he was supposed to, GAME OVER, no fix talk. This is stupid to even discuss.  NFL refs cannot fix games by themselves, so at some point, if what you "game was fixed" people are saying is true, the NFL would have to have somehthing to do with it.  But there is no fixing, so it does not matter.

So you're saying if you make a certain amount, then you don't need anymore money??

Are you agreeing that the ref cheated???

"Palamalou had no business trying to run it back anyway"

Why wouldn't he? Thats the basic instinct as a player. You always try to score.

Exactly! The ref will be happy because thats what he wanted. But the fact is Polamalu didn't just fall on the ball, so the ref had to go out of his way trying to make a bad call for his own interest.

 

You are an idiot to think nothing went wrong at the end of that game.