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    Big Mistake: 'SF Backers' now betting Denver

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    vanhawk
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2014 - 12:38 PM ET #1

    Seeing a lot of the same people that were saying "SF Huge" now saying "Denver Huge". Big mistake! Don't do it. I know you're still hurting from that loss yesterday.. You hate the team that cost you money and immediately want to retaliate.  BUT.. You need to separate the emotions and look at the actual matchup. This is one of the hardest things with gambling!

    Peyton is going to be frustrated all day against that secondary! They might be the greatest (not just now) but in decades. Offensively Broncos had an amazing regular season -- all the records and everything. But this is where it ends. They haven't faced a defense like this all season! Let's be honest, they had a fairly cupcake schedule. And the Patriots were pretenders (as everybody knows now). I mean c'mon they lost to both the Jets and the Dolphins late in the season. They shouldn't have even be in that game yesterday!

    Meanwhile Broncos defense hasn't played a quarterback like Wilson. He is going to create absolute nightmares for them. He is going to play action pass and run wild on them. Percy Harvin is coming back -- huge speed threat for the long balls. Lot of people hate on Wilson's passing ability. but he's got one of the nicest long balls in the league. The kid is a real player too -- he's got ice in his veins. He loves the big games. They will alternate between Wilson and pounding the Beast.

    Factor in the game is going to be about 20-25 degrees at gametime and I really really hate this match for the Broncos!

    Seahawks HUGE in this one.

    BOL everyone.

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    Seeing a lot of the same people that were saying "SF Huge" now saying "Denver Huge". Big mistake! Don't do it. I know you're still hurting from that loss yesterday.. You hate the team that cost you money and immediately want to retaliate.  BUT.. You need to separate the emotions and look at the actual matchup. This is one of the hardest things with gambling!

    Peyton is going to be frustrated all day against that secondary! They might be the greatest (not just now) but in decades. Offensively Broncos had an amazing regular season -- all the records and everything. But this is where it ends. They haven't faced a defense like this all season! Let's be honest, they had a fairly cupcake schedule. And the Patriots were pretenders (as everybody knows now). I mean c'mon they lost to both the Jets and the Dolphins late in the season. They shouldn't have even be in that game yesterday!

    Meanwhile Broncos defense hasn't played a quarterback like Wilson. He is going to create absolute nightmares for them. He is going to play action pass and run wild on them. Percy Harvin is coming back -- huge speed threat for the long balls. Lot of people hate on Wilson's passing ability. but he's got one of the nicest long balls in the league. The kid is a real player too -- he's got ice in his veins. He loves the big games. They will alternate between Wilson and pounding the Beast.

    Factor in the game is going to be about 20-25 degrees at gametime and I really really hate this match for the Broncos!

    Seahawks HUGE in this one.

    BOL everyone.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2014 - 12:46 PM ET #2

    Yep
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    Yep
     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2014 - 12:54 PM ET #3

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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2014 - 1:04 PM ET #4

    Recently, the team won SB had good defense.

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    Recently, the team won SB had good defense.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2014 - 1:18 PM ET #5

    What about the people who said Denver huge yesterday?



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    What about the people who said Denver huge yesterday?



     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2014 - 1:33 PM ET #6

    I had Seattle yesterday and am HUGE on Denver at this writing.

    Seattle travels HORRIBLE.  They aren't the same team with the 12th man behind them.  Actually, there quite pedestrian on the road. 

    I'm not sure what the line is going to end up as....but I'll take Denver at a Pick em or better. 

    It will be Denver's Offense against Hawks Defense.  The problem for Hawks is....they don't have much of an offense, and Denver has a decent enough defense to counter. 

    I wouldn't be giving the Lombardi trophy to Seattle so soon, especially if Percy goes out with a tap to the head.
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    I had Seattle yesterday and am HUGE on Denver at this writing.

    Seattle travels HORRIBLE.  They aren't the same team with the 12th man behind them.  Actually, there quite pedestrian on the road. 

    I'm not sure what the line is going to end up as....but I'll take Denver at a Pick em or better. 

    It will be Denver's Offense against Hawks Defense.  The problem for Hawks is....they don't have much of an offense, and Denver has a decent enough defense to counter. 

    I wouldn't be giving the Lombardi trophy to Seattle so soon, especially if Percy goes out with a tap to the head.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2014 - 1:35 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by Cooler999:

    I had Seattle yesterday and am HUGE on Denver at this writing.

    Seattle travels HORRIBLE.  They aren't the same team with the 12th man behind them.  Actually, there quite pedestrian on the road. 

    I'm not sure what the line is going to end up as....but I'll take Denver at a Pick em or better. 

    It will be Denver's Offense against Hawks Defense.  The problem for Hawks is....they don't have much of an offense, and Denver has a decent enough defense to counter. 

    I wouldn't be giving the Lombardi trophy to Seattle so soon, especially if Percy goes out with a tap to the head.

    if you like denver you should bet them now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooler999:

    I had Seattle yesterday and am HUGE on Denver at this writing.

    Seattle travels HORRIBLE.  They aren't the same team with the 12th man behind them.  Actually, there quite pedestrian on the road. 

    I'm not sure what the line is going to end up as....but I'll take Denver at a Pick em or better. 

    It will be Denver's Offense against Hawks Defense.  The problem for Hawks is....they don't have much of an offense, and Denver has a decent enough defense to counter. 

    I wouldn't be giving the Lombardi trophy to Seattle so soon, especially if Percy goes out with a tap to the head.

    if you like denver you should bet them now...

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2014 - 12:00 AM ET #8

    People need to stop saying Seattle is terrible on the road. That was the old Seahawks a few years ago. They were 6-2 on the road. Both losses-- against the Colts and 49ers were very winnable games!

    You have to be kidding me:

    Sea's Defense is #1 in scoring, yards per game, and yards per play in AWAY games..

    https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/team-stat/scoring-defense-category
     
    https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/team-stat/total-defense-category



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    People need to stop saying Seattle is terrible on the road. That was the old Seahawks a few years ago. They were 6-2 on the road. Both losses-- against the Colts and 49ers were very winnable games!

    You have to be kidding me:

    Sea's Defense is #1 in scoring, yards per game, and yards per play in AWAY games..

    https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/team-stat/scoring-defense-category
     
    https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/team-stat/total-defense-category



     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2014 - 12:24 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by Cooler999:

    I had Seattle yesterday and am HUGE on Denver at this writing.

    Seattle travels HORRIBLE.  They aren't the same team with the 12th man behind them.  Actually, there quite pedestrian on the road. 

    I'm not sure what the line is going to end up as....but I'll take Denver at a Pick em or better. 

    It will be Denver's Offense against Hawks Defense.  The problem for Hawks is....they don't have much of an offense, and Denver has a decent enough defense to counter. 

    I wouldn't be giving the Lombardi trophy to Seattle so soon, especially if Percy goes out with a tap to the head.
    Describe ""pedestrian"..........you mean 6-2 is pedestrian? Just like Denver?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooler999:

    I had Seattle yesterday and am HUGE on Denver at this writing.

    Seattle travels HORRIBLE.  They aren't the same team with the 12th man behind them.  Actually, there quite pedestrian on the road. 

    I'm not sure what the line is going to end up as....but I'll take Denver at a Pick em or better. 

    It will be Denver's Offense against Hawks Defense.  The problem for Hawks is....they don't have much of an offense, and Denver has a decent enough defense to counter. 

    I wouldn't be giving the Lombardi trophy to Seattle so soon, especially if Percy goes out with a tap to the head.
    Describe ""pedestrian"..........you mean 6-2 is pedestrian? Just like Denver?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2014 - 12:30 AM ET #10

    lmao calling that seattle secondary the best ever is the dumbest thing ive ever heard
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    lmao calling that seattle secondary the best ever is the dumbest thing ive ever heard
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2014 - 12:39 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by vanhawk:



    Factor in the game is going to be about 20-25 degrees at gametime and I really really hate this match for the Broncos!

    Seahawks HUGE in this one.

    BOL everyone.


    Right, it never gets to 20 degrees in denver
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanhawk:



    Factor in the game is going to be about 20-25 degrees at gametime and I really really hate this match for the Broncos!

    Seahawks HUGE in this one.

    BOL everyone.


    Right, it never gets to 20 degrees in denver
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2014 - 12:56 AM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by Cappernicking:

    lmao calling that seattle secondary the best ever is the dumbest thing ive ever heard




    This guy again! I thought you wouldn't be back after the game yesterday! You lost all your creditability by guaranteeing a 49ers victory. I suggest you create a new alias and start fresh.

    ps. I told you Kaepernick was a mental midget who uses single read. 3x turnovers in the second half yesterday! How's that for a secondary?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cappernicking:

    lmao calling that seattle secondary the best ever is the dumbest thing ive ever heard




    This guy again! I thought you wouldn't be back after the game yesterday! You lost all your creditability by guaranteeing a 49ers victory. I suggest you create a new alias and start fresh.

    ps. I told you Kaepernick was a mental midget who uses single read. 3x turnovers in the second half yesterday! How's that for a secondary?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2014 - 12:59 AM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by Zoot:


    Right, it never gets to 20 degrees in denver


    I understand that it can. Regardless if it's Denver or wherever -- the numbers speak for themselves:

    "When the temperature is 32 degrees or colder at kickoff, Peyton Manning's career record is 4-7. That's a 36.4 winning percentage. In all other games -- meaning, warmer games -- his winning percentage is 69.3 percent "
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoot:


    Right, it never gets to 20 degrees in denver


    I understand that it can. Regardless if it's Denver or wherever -- the numbers speak for themselves:

    "When the temperature is 32 degrees or colder at kickoff, Peyton Manning's career record is 4-7. That's a 36.4 winning percentage. In all other games -- meaning, warmer games -- his winning percentage is 69.3 percent "
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2014 - 1:23 AM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by Cappernicking:

    lmao calling that seattle secondary the best ever is the dumbest thing ive ever heard




    I bet kaepernick disagrees with u. 10 int all year and 5 were against hawks.  The only secondary i can think that can challenge this is san frans with deion and merton hanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cappernicking:

    lmao calling that seattle secondary the best ever is the dumbest thing ive ever heard




    I bet kaepernick disagrees with u. 10 int all year and 5 were against hawks.  The only secondary i can think that can challenge this is san frans with deion and merton hanks
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanhawk:



    I understand that it can. Regardless if it's Denver or wherever -- the numbers speak for themselves:

    "When the temperature is 32 degrees or colder at kickoff, Peyton Manning's career record is 4-7. That's a 36.4 winning percentage. In all other games -- meaning, warmer games -- his winning percentage is 69.3 percent "
    Son that is the most ridiculous stat ever
    Do you understand that Peyton played the majority of his career 
    IN A DOME. He's spent 2seasons in Denver
    Please 
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanhawk:



    I understand that it can. Regardless if it's Denver or wherever -- the numbers speak for themselves:

    "When the temperature is 32 degrees or colder at kickoff, Peyton Manning's career record is 4-7. That's a 36.4 winning percentage. In all other games -- meaning, warmer games -- his winning percentage is 69.3 percent "
    Son that is the most ridiculous stat ever
    Do you understand that Peyton played the majority of his career 
    IN A DOME. He's spent 2seasons in Denver
    Please 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooler999:

    I had Seattle yesterday and am HUGE on Denver at this writing.

    Seattle travels HORRIBLE.  They aren't the same team with the 12th man behind them.  Actually, there quite pedestrian on the road. 

    I'm not sure what the line is going to end up as....but I'll take Denver at a Pick em or better. 

    It will be Denver's Offense against Hawks Defense.  The problem for Hawks is....they don't have much of an offense, and Denver has a decent enough defense to counter. 

    I wouldn't be giving the Lombardi trophy to Seattle so soon, especially if Percy goes out with a tap to the head.

    Seattle 10-2 ATS past 12 games road games

    Denver 8-4 ATS past 12 games road games

    Who travels horribly again ?

    Don't live in last year !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooler999:

    I had Seattle yesterday and am HUGE on Denver at this writing.

    Seattle travels HORRIBLE.  They aren't the same team with the 12th man behind them.  Actually, there quite pedestrian on the road. 

    I'm not sure what the line is going to end up as....but I'll take Denver at a Pick em or better. 

    It will be Denver's Offense against Hawks Defense.  The problem for Hawks is....they don't have much of an offense, and Denver has a decent enough defense to counter. 

    I wouldn't be giving the Lombardi trophy to Seattle so soon, especially if Percy goes out with a tap to the head.

    Seattle 10-2 ATS past 12 games road games

    Denver 8-4 ATS past 12 games road games

    Who travels horribly again ?

    Don't live in last year !!!

     
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    Class not Crass  will win the Super Bowl.
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    Class not Crass  will win the Super Bowl.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2014 - 8:03 AM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by vanhawk:

    Seeing a lot of the same people that were saying "SF Huge" now saying "Denver Huge". Big mistake! Don't do it. I know you're still hurting from that loss yesterday.. You hate the team that cost you money and immediately want to retaliate.  BUT.. You need to separate the emotions and look at the actual matchup. This is one of the hardest things with gambling!

    Peyton is going to be frustrated all day against that secondary! They might be the greatest (not just now) but in decades. Offensively Broncos had an amazing regular season -- all the records and everything. But this is where it ends. They haven't faced a defense like this all season! Let's be honest, they had a fairly cupcake schedule. And the Patriots were pretenders (as everybody knows now). I mean c'mon they lost to both the Jets and the Dolphins late in the season. They shouldn't have even be in that game yesterday!

    Meanwhile Broncos defense hasn't played a quarterback like Wilson. He is going to create absolute nightmares for them. He is going to play action pass and run wild on them. Percy Harvin is coming back -- huge speed threat for the long balls. Lot of people hate on Wilson's passing ability. but he's got one of the nicest long balls in the league. The kid is a real player too -- he's got ice in his veins. He loves the big games. They will alternate between Wilson and pounding the Beast.

    Factor in the game is going to be about 20-25 degrees at gametime and I really really hate this match for the Broncos!

    Seahawks HUGE in this one.

    BOL everyone.


    LOL, you are going to lose big time!
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanhawk:

    Seeing a lot of the same people that were saying "SF Huge" now saying "Denver Huge". Big mistake! Don't do it. I know you're still hurting from that loss yesterday.. You hate the team that cost you money and immediately want to retaliate.  BUT.. You need to separate the emotions and look at the actual matchup. This is one of the hardest things with gambling!

    Peyton is going to be frustrated all day against that secondary! They might be the greatest (not just now) but in decades. Offensively Broncos had an amazing regular season -- all the records and everything. But this is where it ends. They haven't faced a defense like this all season! Let's be honest, they had a fairly cupcake schedule. And the Patriots were pretenders (as everybody knows now). I mean c'mon they lost to both the Jets and the Dolphins late in the season. They shouldn't have even be in that game yesterday!

    Meanwhile Broncos defense hasn't played a quarterback like Wilson. He is going to create absolute nightmares for them. He is going to play action pass and run wild on them. Percy Harvin is coming back -- huge speed threat for the long balls. Lot of people hate on Wilson's passing ability. but he's got one of the nicest long balls in the league. The kid is a real player too -- he's got ice in his veins. He loves the big games. They will alternate between Wilson and pounding the Beast.

    Factor in the game is going to be about 20-25 degrees at gametime and I really really hate this match for the Broncos!

    Seahawks HUGE in this one.

    BOL everyone.


    LOL, you are going to lose big time!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanhawk:



    I understand that it can. Regardless if it's Denver or wherever -- the numbers speak for themselves:

    "When the temperature is 32 degrees or colder at kickoff, Peyton Manning's career record is 4-7. That's a 36.4 winning percentage. In all other games -- meaning, warmer games -- his winning percentage is 69.3 percent "
    Does Seattle play better in the cold than Denver?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanhawk:



    I understand that it can. Regardless if it's Denver or wherever -- the numbers speak for themselves:

    "When the temperature is 32 degrees or colder at kickoff, Peyton Manning's career record is 4-7. That's a 36.4 winning percentage. In all other games -- meaning, warmer games -- his winning percentage is 69.3 percent "
    Does Seattle play better in the cold than Denver?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanhawk:



    I understand that it can. Regardless if it's Denver or wherever -- the numbers speak for themselves:

    "When the temperature is 32 degrees or colder at kickoff, Peyton Manning's career record is 4-7. That's a 36.4 winning percentage. In all other games -- meaning, warmer games -- his winning percentage is 69.3 percent "
    Where are the Seattle numbers on Wilson? His brain might get frozen too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanhawk:



    I understand that it can. Regardless if it's Denver or wherever -- the numbers speak for themselves:

    "When the temperature is 32 degrees or colder at kickoff, Peyton Manning's career record is 4-7. That's a 36.4 winning percentage. In all other games -- meaning, warmer games -- his winning percentage is 69.3 percent "
    Where are the Seattle numbers on Wilson? His brain might get frozen too!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2014 - 8:39 AM ET #21

    I don't believe Seattle plays many cold weather teams during the season. They're going to be playing a team that DOES. Let's not forget it gets pretty cold in Denver too. Remember the New England game during the regular season? Cold.....VERY COLD! Broncos owned in the first half.............but I guess the cold got to them in the second half.
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    I don't believe Seattle plays many cold weather teams during the season. They're going to be playing a team that DOES. Let's not forget it gets pretty cold in Denver too. Remember the New England game during the regular season? Cold.....VERY COLD! Broncos owned in the first half.............but I guess the cold got to them in the second half.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2014 - 8:44 AM ET #22

    Gun to my head.......... Manning or Wilson? Give me a few moments to think about this one.
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    Gun to my head.......... Manning or Wilson? Give me a few moments to think about this one.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2014 - 11:27 AM ET #23

    I think Peyton's lack of mobility will give the Seahawks secondary and LBs more time and opportunity to cover down field. They're great at covering pocket passers, and have more issues with running QBs. I know Peyton has been sacked the least of any QB, likely due to his release time, but Seattle's front line has 44 sacks on the year, good for 8th in the league.

    Seahawks
    #1 in points allowed
    #1 in yards allowed
    #1 in turnover margin
    #4 in rushing offense
    #8 in rushing defense
    #27 in passing offense
    #1 in passing defense

    Denver
    #22 in points allowed
    #19 in yards allowed
    #13 in turnover margin
    #15 in rushing offense
    #7 in rushing defense
    #1 in passing offense
    #27 in passing defense

    Statistically, the Seahawks have the edge here. Passing offense is their weakest spot, but that is also Denver's weakest defensive spot which makes Wilson's life a bit easier.

    Turnover margin and Wilson's ability to complete passes is what it will come down to again. Seattle's defense can hold up. Denver gives up points and are in the bottom half in total defense. Russell Wilson has one less INT than Manning this season, and is the only QB in history with a 100+ passer rating in his first two seasons.

    Seahawks win this one 26-16.
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    I think Peyton's lack of mobility will give the Seahawks secondary and LBs more time and opportunity to cover down field. They're great at covering pocket passers, and have more issues with running QBs. I know Peyton has been sacked the least of any QB, likely due to his release time, but Seattle's front line has 44 sacks on the year, good for 8th in the league.

    Seahawks
    #1 in points allowed
    #1 in yards allowed
    #1 in turnover margin
    #4 in rushing offense
    #8 in rushing defense
    #27 in passing offense
    #1 in passing defense

    Denver
    #22 in points allowed
    #19 in yards allowed
    #13 in turnover margin
    #15 in rushing offense
    #7 in rushing defense
    #1 in passing offense
    #27 in passing defense

    Statistically, the Seahawks have the edge here. Passing offense is their weakest spot, but that is also Denver's weakest defensive spot which makes Wilson's life a bit easier.

    Turnover margin and Wilson's ability to complete passes is what it will come down to again. Seattle's defense can hold up. Denver gives up points and are in the bottom half in total defense. Russell Wilson has one less INT than Manning this season, and is the only QB in history with a 100+ passer rating in his first two seasons.

    Seahawks win this one 26-16.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2014 - 11:36 AM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by best_bets:

    Gun to my head.......... Manning or Wilson? Give me a few moments to think about this one.


    Don't think that alone decides this game. Seahawks Defense vs. Denver Defense? Give me a few moments to this about this one. DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by best_bets:

    Gun to my head.......... Manning or Wilson? Give me a few moments to think about this one.


    Don't think that alone decides this game. Seahawks Defense vs. Denver Defense? Give me a few moments to this about this one. DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanhawk:



    Don't think that alone decides this game. Seahawks Defense vs. Denver Defense? Give me a few moments to this about this one. DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS.
    Great call


     As we all can see, many SF fans did exactly that.......took out their frustrations by betting against Seattle & are now hurting even more.



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    Quote Originally Posted by vanhawk:



    Don't think that alone decides this game. Seahawks Defense vs. Denver Defense? Give me a few moments to this about this one. DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS.
    Great call


     As we all can see, many SF fans did exactly that.......took out their frustrations by betting against Seattle & are now hurting even more.



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