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    BILL @ BENGALS: They'll all tell you otherwise, but this is all about one man and one man only

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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2016 - 8:45 AM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by CajunWF:

    Scala, I was on CSU and Penn State last night thanks to your write-ups! 

    Unfortunately I'm on the opposite side for this game.  The Bills already lost too much to be relevant in the AFC wild card spot due to strong AFC West play.   The Bengals, on the other hand are still quite in contention in the lowly south, but they essentially control their own destiny.  I backed NYG on Monday because of the Lewis/Dalton suck on Prime Time factor, but I feel like the bounce back factor applies to the Bengals more than the Bills, even if the latter have lost the last 3.

    Bengals at home, in a pissed off mentality, in a 1 o'clock forgettable game that no one cares about........  This is Dalton's time to shine.  They're healthy, Eiffert is playing well and will cause match-up problems.  Buffalo is porous vs. the run since switching back to a 3-4, their corners are alright but safety play is suspect.  Also teams coming off a bye are doing terrible this year, in the ~20% ATS range, and Rex Ryan has also proved that he cannot rally his troops after a bye time and time again.

    I see the Bengals dominating on both sides of the ball and cruising to an easy win, 27-17

    As always, best of luck!

    Cajun, from a mathematical perspective, the Bengals have a better shot given their divisional standing.

    This is true.

    But you have to remember something, there are only 16 games in football. That means that virtually every single team still has a shot at the playoffs today. Even the Jets at 3-7 have a shot. The Bengals have to jump 2 teams in their own division who are better. It's not going to happen. Suuma has this team pegged for under 9.5 wins for a reason (he's taking them today in the wrong spot through).

    From a macro-perspective, the Bills are chasing the wild-card, one of the spots owned by the Raiders. They have to leapfrog others but not of the quality of the Steelers which the Bengals have to leap..


    From that perspective it is far more realistic and convincing a sell for Ryan, his team, their and his mindset, to still be engaged in a playoff push. The Bengals at 3-5-1? Not so much in my opinion. Bills are one game away from .500 and really, they'd be over .500 with McCoy. The injury did them in these past 3. Their record would be flipped at a minimum.

    Now they have Shaq Lawson, who is playing very well, and possibly Dareus so this defense, once patch-work is getting healthier with very big pieces returning.

    Not really any good news on the Bengals front. Still have the same old ho-hum Marvin Lewis on the sidelines and Dalton has regressed as has the O-line. And again, for god's sake you can't stop the Giants from taking you out with the run?

    If you look at all the other bye weeks, nothing compares to this. This is it for Rex. There is zero chance the Bengals dominate them. Sorry.

    He will have every defensive package available and he'll throw it all at Cincy until the final gun. As will his players.

    You bet the Bengals  here, you bet against one the best motivators in all of football. He had to have them win in Foxboro against the undefeated Pats, Jacoby Brissett or otherwise. Bills dominated on the road.


    Bengals are 3-6 ATS this year. Why all the clamoring to back them, never mind laying the points!

    They covered against the Jets (one of the worst teams in football, especially after that Rams performance)

    The Browns (the worst team in football and possibly will be one of the worst in league history)

    And Miami, (in the game right before they found themselves and starting their current 4-0 streak.) That was a game Miami bottomed out in.

    The Bills have covered 4, came .5 from covering in Miami (when they got hot), WITHOUT McCoy who is their heart to Tyrod's soul.

    And then spilled their guts on the field in Seattle and needed Lynch to essentially amputate their kicker's leg to take a crucial 3 off the board. And that 3 mattered.

    I am not impressed with Cincy AT ALL and as far as angles go, I don't see one other than returning home (Where they haven't been strong! 4-4 SU in their last 8 dating back to last season).

    Not enough there for me to take Cincy. More than enough with the points and or ML for the Bills. Respectfully disagree.

    He'll have them out to play today. 4-6 and he's done. You'll get a playoff effort from Buffalo and if not the bugle will be playing Taps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunWF:

    Scala, I was on CSU and Penn State last night thanks to your write-ups! 

    Unfortunately I'm on the opposite side for this game.  The Bills already lost too much to be relevant in the AFC wild card spot due to strong AFC West play.   The Bengals, on the other hand are still quite in contention in the lowly south, but they essentially control their own destiny.  I backed NYG on Monday because of the Lewis/Dalton suck on Prime Time factor, but I feel like the bounce back factor applies to the Bengals more than the Bills, even if the latter have lost the last 3.

    Bengals at home, in a pissed off mentality, in a 1 o'clock forgettable game that no one cares about........  This is Dalton's time to shine.  They're healthy, Eiffert is playing well and will cause match-up problems.  Buffalo is porous vs. the run since switching back to a 3-4, their corners are alright but safety play is suspect.  Also teams coming off a bye are doing terrible this year, in the ~20% ATS range, and Rex Ryan has also proved that he cannot rally his troops after a bye time and time again.

    I see the Bengals dominating on both sides of the ball and cruising to an easy win, 27-17

    As always, best of luck!

    Cajun, from a mathematical perspective, the Bengals have a better shot given their divisional standing.

    This is true.

    But you have to remember something, there are only 16 games in football. That means that virtually every single team still has a shot at the playoffs today. Even the Jets at 3-7 have a shot. The Bengals have to jump 2 teams in their own division who are better. It's not going to happen. Suuma has this team pegged for under 9.5 wins for a reason (he's taking them today in the wrong spot through).

    From a macro-perspective, the Bills are chasing the wild-card, one of the spots owned by the Raiders. They have to leapfrog others but not of the quality of the Steelers which the Bengals have to leap..


    From that perspective it is far more realistic and convincing a sell for Ryan, his team, their and his mindset, to still be engaged in a playoff push. The Bengals at 3-5-1? Not so much in my opinion. Bills are one game away from .500 and really, they'd be over .500 with McCoy. The injury did them in these past 3. Their record would be flipped at a minimum.

    Now they have Shaq Lawson, who is playing very well, and possibly Dareus so this defense, once patch-work is getting healthier with very big pieces returning.

    Not really any good news on the Bengals front. Still have the same old ho-hum Marvin Lewis on the sidelines and Dalton has regressed as has the O-line. And again, for god's sake you can't stop the Giants from taking you out with the run?

    If you look at all the other bye weeks, nothing compares to this. This is it for Rex. There is zero chance the Bengals dominate them. Sorry.

    He will have every defensive package available and he'll throw it all at Cincy until the final gun. As will his players.

    You bet the Bengals  here, you bet against one the best motivators in all of football. He had to have them win in Foxboro against the undefeated Pats, Jacoby Brissett or otherwise. Bills dominated on the road.


    Bengals are 3-6 ATS this year. Why all the clamoring to back them, never mind laying the points!

    They covered against the Jets (one of the worst teams in football, especially after that Rams performance)

    The Browns (the worst team in football and possibly will be one of the worst in league history)

    And Miami, (in the game right before they found themselves and starting their current 4-0 streak.) That was a game Miami bottomed out in.

    The Bills have covered 4, came .5 from covering in Miami (when they got hot), WITHOUT McCoy who is their heart to Tyrod's soul.

    And then spilled their guts on the field in Seattle and needed Lynch to essentially amputate their kicker's leg to take a crucial 3 off the board. And that 3 mattered.

    I am not impressed with Cincy AT ALL and as far as angles go, I don't see one other than returning home (Where they haven't been strong! 4-4 SU in their last 8 dating back to last season).

    Not enough there for me to take Cincy. More than enough with the points and or ML for the Bills. Respectfully disagree.

    He'll have them out to play today. 4-6 and he's done. You'll get a playoff effort from Buffalo and if not the bugle will be playing Taps.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2016 - 8:46 AM ET #27

    Great stuff Scal. Thanks for all you do man. I started a thread on the college forum, it's about the okie st and okie game 2 weeks from now. I could use some angles brotha


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    Great stuff Scal. Thanks for all you do man. I started a thread on the college forum, it's about the okie st and okie game 2 weeks from now. I could use some angles brotha


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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2016 - 8:49 AM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by Pho-20:

    Scal 
    Bengals have a better shot at making the playoff then buffalo. There in the weakest division right now and only 2 behind division leader Ravens. Hard go against a bengals team at home.  Marvin Lewis is also on hot seat just like Rex Ryan.   Best of luck to you on this game  

    Marvin Lewis has been on the hot seat forever. His hot seat is older than Rip Van Winkle. If Rex loses this job his career as a HC is done. Not so for Lewis imo.

    And I'd much rather chase two wild card spots owned by the Broncos with Simien behind center and the Raiders who are new to this.

    Vs. chasing Pitt with Big Ben behind center? No thanks. That is the worst of the 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pho-20:

    Scal 
    Bengals have a better shot at making the playoff then buffalo. There in the weakest division right now and only 2 behind division leader Ravens. Hard go against a bengals team at home.  Marvin Lewis is also on hot seat just like Rex Ryan.   Best of luck to you on this game  

    Marvin Lewis has been on the hot seat forever. His hot seat is older than Rip Van Winkle. If Rex loses this job his career as a HC is done. Not so for Lewis imo.

    And I'd much rather chase two wild card spots owned by the Broncos with Simien behind center and the Raiders who are new to this.

    Vs. chasing Pitt with Big Ben behind center? No thanks. That is the worst of the 3.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2016 - 8:52 AM ET #29

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    Suuma GL as always

    Dribble, McAdoo ain't going to no SB with a more aged Eli and that prima donna drama queen ODB. No way.

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    Suuma GL as always

    Dribble, McAdoo ain't going to no SB with a more aged Eli and that prima donna drama queen ODB. No way.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    Great stuff Scal. Thanks for all you do man. I started a thread on the college forum, it's about the okie st and okie game 2 weeks from now. I could use some angles brotha


    BOL

    Under I would help you but I avoid Oklahoma State like the plague. I do not have the pulse of that team and I don't know why! So I don't want to do more harm than good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    Great stuff Scal. Thanks for all you do man. I started a thread on the college forum, it's about the okie st and okie game 2 weeks from now. I could use some angles brotha


    BOL

    Under I would help you but I avoid Oklahoma State like the plague. I do not have the pulse of that team and I don't know why! So I don't want to do more harm than good.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2016 - 8:53 AM ET #31

    Appreciate all that you do Scal, and will gladly take the Bills today. I too loved the Bills vs the Pats straight up in week 4, ( for other reasons), and was happy to see you on them too!!!

     There's a situational play against the Giants today that is the same as the Bills vs NE, that looks just as ugly , seeing that we're asking the Bears to come in to NY and at the very least keep it close and cover, but will push it and put a little on the ML too.

    Thanks again for yesterdays NCAAF picks too!!!

    Good luck!!!

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    Appreciate all that you do Scal, and will gladly take the Bills today. I too loved the Bills vs the Pats straight up in week 4, ( for other reasons), and was happy to see you on them too!!!

     There's a situational play against the Giants today that is the same as the Bills vs NE, that looks just as ugly , seeing that we're asking the Bears to come in to NY and at the very least keep it close and cover, but will push it and put a little on the ML too.

    Thanks again for yesterdays NCAAF picks too!!!

    Good luck!!!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2016 - 8:54 AM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Sausage Titz (can't believe I have to address someone in this way...):

    It's a bit much for you to say this is NOT ALL about Rex. That is a bit of hyperbole on my part since Rex is not actually ON the field. The players will actually win or lose the game on the field. That is understood by all.

    And as far as tilting, my tilting plays would have been the games I posted that came AFTER the SDSU game and here were the results:

    Colorado State (-4.5) 49

    New Mexico 31

    and

    Penn State (-28) 39

    Rutgers 0

    While the second play wasn't official, there were many here who likely made it for themselves which I why I post. And winning 7 posts out of 8 is tilting?

    You do know people WILL lose at capping. Like baseball players, even if you hit .400 you'll get an out 60% of the time. A loss is completely unremarkable.


    PARLAY (5 TEAMS)

    CFB
    [316] TOTAL u61-140 (B+1.5 ) (Memphis vrs Cincinnati University) 
    11/18/2016 @ 05:10 PM 
    CFB
    [351] TOTAL o56-140 (B+1.5 ) (San Diego State vrs Wyoming) 
    11/19/2016 @ 12:40 PM 
    CFB
    [354] Colorado State -3-150 (B+1.5 ) 
    11/19/2016 @ 07:25 PM 
    CFB
    [405] USC -12-140 (B+1.5 ) 
    11/19/2016 @ 07:40 PM 
    CFB
    [409] Penn State -26-150 (B+2) 
    Thanks for the insights!
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Sausage Titz (can't believe I have to address someone in this way...):

    It's a bit much for you to say this is NOT ALL about Rex. That is a bit of hyperbole on my part since Rex is not actually ON the field. The players will actually win or lose the game on the field. That is understood by all.

    And as far as tilting, my tilting plays would have been the games I posted that came AFTER the SDSU game and here were the results:

    Colorado State (-4.5) 49

    New Mexico 31

    and

    Penn State (-28) 39

    Rutgers 0

    While the second play wasn't official, there were many here who likely made it for themselves which I why I post. And winning 7 posts out of 8 is tilting?

    You do know people WILL lose at capping. Like baseball players, even if you hit .400 you'll get an out 60% of the time. A loss is completely unremarkable.


    PARLAY (5 TEAMS)

    CFB
    [316] TOTAL u61-140 (B+1.5 ) (Memphis vrs Cincinnati University) 
    11/18/2016 @ 05:10 PM 
    CFB
    [351] TOTAL o56-140 (B+1.5 ) (San Diego State vrs Wyoming) 
    11/19/2016 @ 12:40 PM 
    CFB
    [354] Colorado State -3-150 (B+1.5 ) 
    11/19/2016 @ 07:25 PM 
    CFB
    [405] USC -12-140 (B+1.5 ) 
    11/19/2016 @ 07:40 PM 
    CFB
    [409] Penn State -26-150 (B+2) 
    Thanks for the insights!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2016 - 9:06 AM ET #33

    Rollo. Thanks for the angle! I'll take a look at that. Teddy


    Dribble. They are not going to the SB. Get it out of your head right now! That is insane. Those other two teams had the taskmaster Coughlin and a younger deeper core. This team's RB game. It's gonna catch up with them!

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    Rollo. Thanks for the angle! I'll take a look at that. Teddy


    Dribble. They are not going to the SB. Get it out of your head right now! That is insane. Those other two teams had the taskmaster Coughlin and a younger deeper core. This team's RB game. It's gonna catch up with them!

     
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     Thanks, you are the man.....
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     Thanks, you are the man.....
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2016 - 9:22 AM ET #36

    As a die hard this makes me very

    Had the Bills +6.5 against the Seahawks and if Tyrod, Shady, and Robert Woods plays the same way they did on MNF against Seattle it will be a long day for the Bungles.

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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2016 - 9:23 AM ET #37

    i liked this game all week....reading your post makes it a bigger play. thanks....
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2016 - 9:24 AM ET #38

    As a die hard Buffalo Bills fan this makes me very

    Had the Bills +6.5 against the Seahawks and if Tyrod, Shady, and Robert Woods plays the same way they did on MNF against Seattle it will be a long day for the Bungles.

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    As a die hard Buffalo Bills fans this makes me very

    Had the Bills +6.5 against the Seahawks and if Tyrod, Shady, and Robert Woods plays the same way they did on MNF against Seattle it will be a long day for the Bungles.

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    RLAY (3 TEAMS)

    NFL
    [451] TOTAL o52-120 (B+0.5 ) (TEN TITANS vrs IND COLTS) 
    11/20/2016 @ 10:00 AM 
    NFL
    [456] KC CHIEFS -5.5 -145 (B+1.5 ) 
    11/20/2016 @ 10:00 AM 
    NFL
    [461] TOTAL o45-140 (B+1.5 ) (BUF BILLS vrs CIN BENGALS) 
    11/20/2016 @ 10:00 A

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    NFL
    [451] TOTAL o52-120 (B+0.5 ) (TEN TITANS vrs IND COLTS) 
    11/20/2016 @ 10:00 AM 
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    [456] KC CHIEFS -5.5 -145 (B+1.5 ) 
    11/20/2016 @ 10:00 AM 
    NFL
    [461] TOTAL o45-140 (B+1.5 ) (BUF BILLS vrs CIN BENGALS) 
    11/20/2016 @ 10:00 A

     
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    The Bills are one of the most talented teams in the NFL. Also one of the most dysfunctional for 18 straight years..
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    get them back man
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    Love the play! BOL!


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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2016 - 10:38 AM ET #45

    bills +2 & moneyline thanks scala 
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    I hate going against either you or Summa. But I actually like Buffalo in this spot. And your write up solidified my lean. 

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    Only the one play I assume
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    How are the Bills health wise? I feel like they had 5 or 6 key guys injured in the Patriots game.

    Sacalabrine, I know you are from the New York area like me. Am I crazy for thinking the Bears play the Giants tough today? It just seems the usual Giants let down spot we have seem so many times over the years.

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    Sacalabrine, I know you are from the New York area like me. Am I crazy for thinking the Bears play the Giants tough today? It just seems the usual Giants let down spot we have seem so many times over the years.

     
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    DONT SWEAT WYOMING... CANT WIN THEM ALL... YOUR A GREAT CAPPER... YOU PUT ALOT OF TIME IN
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    bungles oline is really struggling right now, that's their biggest problem BUT.....cincy actually controls their own destiny right now. 2 games with balt and 1 more @ home vs pitt
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