Caleb Williams

2018 Mitch and bears 12-4.  Mahomes would have taken them to the Super Bowl that season. 

Agreed... Harbaugh is just a winner wherever he goes.  On a recent interview,  I can see why the players  buy into him.   Heck, the guy jumps into the weight room and does sets w the guys.  Lol.  Just a small example,  but he gets the guys to buy into him and his culture.  

@HailStone

 Are you saying you voted for her?  Common man, TRUMPS the man 

@HailStone

 Crazy talk, votes do count.  It’s when you got one guy or gal, deciding “their “ votes don’t count and now multiple that by million plus folks that think the same, there is the problem.  Anyway hailstone, I voted for Trump, cause the other sides stood for nothing but their own pockets.  Good luck ?? in your betting life hail.  

Same quarterback, yes. But what does that even mean? Of course he would be the same quarterback, but nobody said the stats and results would necessarily be the same.

Doubtful hes a 3 time Super Bowl Champ with the Bears, but who can say for sure. The Bears drafting Mahomes would have put a different reality into motion and we have absolutely no way of knowing for sure how the next set of circumstances would unfold after that.

So to answer the question. we can speculate but the only thing we know for sure is his talent level and competitiveness would be the same regardless who be plays for.

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Bears would have two rings buy now if they had purdie

@Vic-Vega

Agree with all of this - The failure of QB's in Chicago is an organizational failure. Until they fix how they develop and handle QB's it's going to continue to yield the same results.

Interesting discussion  

Caleb Williams on passes of 15 yards or more has the lowest completion % of any season in the last 15 years. He's 468th of 468 quarterbacks.

Caleb makes bad decisions… he bought a house in Chicago for 12.9 million. 

Property taxes on that house 500 K a year

yeah, can you imagine being a Dallas cowboys fan, its very painful and embarrassing  

Receivers covered like a blanket you can watch Williams’ passing plays from view above on youtube of Pats game

Caleb is trash.  Having watched every single Mahomes snap in his career including preseason, I can safely say Mahomes is the greatest QB prospect of all time and would have changed any organization in the league.  These Bears fans pretending the Chiefs were some paragon of an organization before Mahomes was drafted are sniffing glue!  The Chiefs were a dumpster fire of a franchise that like the Bears could never draft or develop a single QB in decades.  Yes, they had Grbac, Montana, and Gannon but none of those guys were drafted or developed by the Chiefs.  Yes, Andy Reid tremendously helped Mahomes but 90% of Mahomes magic cannot be taught and thus could have been applied to any fucking team. 

Only casuals think Mahomes is a system QB.  Mahomes is the antithesis of system QB.  He is the greatest QB in a vacuum of all-time and that was true back in 2018 when he threw for 5k and 50tds before his SB wins.  To suggest he would fail in Chicago just to prop up a bust in Caleb is hilarious. 

Caleb went to one of the greatest spots for a number 1 overall QB.  Despite that, he has the exact same stats as Bryce Young's first 9 games!!!  No excuses!  This dude is trash. 

"But..but...the OC is calling bad plays!" 

Give me a fkn break!

Heard the same about Lamar and some others and these days you can look far and wide and you just can’t find a Lamar hater anywhere it’s funny how that works which shows how silly and fake such verbiage is. If you say someone is trash and has no future stand on it forever. Same thing will be for Williams and the clueless ones will hide under a rock as usual.

@reffub

Other than Josh Allen, no other great QB has struggled early on.  Lamar NEVER posted the crap lines that Caleb and Bryce Young are posting.  The reason people doubted Lamar was because they couldn't believe his numbers, as in they thought they were outliers.  They were wrong and the longevity of Lamar has shut them up.  Caleb has no such problem. 

He is just trash.   You either have it or you don't.  It's brutally plain and obvious to anyone with eyes. 

Again Josh Allen was the exception but even Josh had a bazooka for an arm that would sail past everyone his first season and even he showed glimpses of greatness during that time.  Caleb shows so little it's almost bust time if he doesn't right the ship asap.

@stoidi

 Williams threw for 363 against the Colts, 29-29 394 yds and 2 tds against the Panthers, 23-29 226 yds and 4 tds against the Jaguars. Those aren’t crap lines. 

crap numbers? 

vs. Vikings 32-47 340 yds 2 tds 0 ints

The Irony of this post, is that Matt Nagy was still with KC as an OC during that draft where they took Mahomes. And reportedly Nagy was involved in scouting and convincing the Chiefs to draft Mahomes. The following year he took the Bears gig and inherited Mitch Trubisky...

The Bears are one of, if not the worst run organizations in all of sports. Football games are won in the trenches. The Bears never develop or address their offensive line woes. Haven't in close to 40 years. It's as simple as that...