Train, you must have missed the game last week early in the 4th quarter. The Broncos were trailing, Tebow converts a 3rd and 2, they call a BS penalty, he then converts a 3rd and 12 and they call another BS penalty which ends up forcing a punt.
Didnt miss a thing.
A) That was on the road
B) They still won and covered.
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Quote Originally Posted by earthWake:
Train, you must have missed the game last week early in the 4th quarter. The Broncos were trailing, Tebow converts a 3rd and 2, they call a BS penalty, he then converts a 3rd and 12 and they call another BS penalty which ends up forcing a punt.
Nah. The NFL needs a good story. Tebow is it. No way they lose this game before he battles Brady next weekend. I actually expect the Broncos to win the rest of their games (Chi, NE, @ Buff, KC) and finish 11-5, at worst 10-6, but still win the division and get a home playoff game.
NFL is all about money folks.
BOL Train win the rest of their games??I will bet the DONT
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Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:
Nah. The NFL needs a good story. Tebow is it. No way they lose this game before he battles Brady next weekend. I actually expect the Broncos to win the rest of their games (Chi, NE, @ Buff, KC) and finish 11-5, at worst 10-6, but still win the division and get a home playoff game.
NFL is all about money folks.
BOL Train win the rest of their games??I will bet the DONT
I'm telling you all. I was at the game last week in Chicago. 8th row, 45 yard line, behind the Bears bench. I've lived in Chicago for the last 30 years. I know Bears football.
The Bears defense kills it and has more in the tank. The core of that defense has been getting it done and winning divisions without any offense for years. They play up or down to their defense. When the O scores points, they seem to give up the big play more often, but when the O is not scoring, Brian, Briggs and company know how to put it on lock down.
It even struck me at the game that even though I know what a freak Peppers is, when you watch him from 15 away, it’s pretty insane.He stands out as an athlete on a field filled with professional athletes.
This is all coming to a man who is 4-1 in the last 5 weeks on Denver games.I bet against him the first 2 and made my mind up after the first loss, that I was going to bet on Tim Tesus for a while.While he has had success, I do not think he wins a 3rd consecutive road game against the best defense he has played thus far.Bears at +3.5 is the play. Look at it like this.Almost every possession the Bears had last week was a 3 and out and they still only lost because of the miracle hailmary at halftime.Tim Tesus is playing the Bears a week late and an offensive too short to get a miracle against the Bears.Don’t overthink.
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I'm telling you all. I was at the game last week in Chicago. 8th row, 45 yard line, behind the Bears bench. I've lived in Chicago for the last 30 years. I know Bears football.
The Bears defense kills it and has more in the tank. The core of that defense has been getting it done and winning divisions without any offense for years. They play up or down to their defense. When the O scores points, they seem to give up the big play more often, but when the O is not scoring, Brian, Briggs and company know how to put it on lock down.
It even struck me at the game that even though I know what a freak Peppers is, when you watch him from 15 away, it’s pretty insane.He stands out as an athlete on a field filled with professional athletes.
This is all coming to a man who is 4-1 in the last 5 weeks on Denver games.I bet against him the first 2 and made my mind up after the first loss, that I was going to bet on Tim Tesus for a while.While he has had success, I do not think he wins a 3rd consecutive road game against the best defense he has played thus far.Bears at +3.5 is the play. Look at it like this.Almost every possession the Bears had last week was a 3 and out and they still only lost because of the miracle hailmary at halftime.Tim Tesus is playing the Bears a week late and an offensive too short to get a miracle against the Bears.Don’t overthink.
DOnt see how you can put money on Chicago with Hanie and no FOrte. What do they have left and then on top of that, going to Denver to play. Keep wishing guys, Denver will easily shut down Chicago
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DOnt see how you can put money on Chicago with Hanie and no FOrte. What do they have left and then on top of that, going to Denver to play. Keep wishing guys, Denver will easily shut down Chicago
Hanie wasn't good last weekend, in fact, he looked razzled and uncomfortable in the pocket. He needs to make improvements for the Bears to win. Saying that, he did have 2 TD passes (Barber caught one, but was off the line of scrimmage, and Roy Williams dropped another) that would have made his stat line look a bit more respectable and probably would have beat the Chiefs.
The Bears defense has done a very good job. You can't complain much about a defense that gave up only 10 points (and 7 came on the Hail Mary pass). Saying that, the turnovers haven't been there since the Cutler injury and that has to change to win games as well.
Personally, I think the Beas getting points are a steal. Yes,Tebow has made plays in the 4th quarter and are at home, but I'm still not buying into Tebow as an answer there, or the Broncos as a team.
As for O/U, if I'm correct in Bears prediction, I think the over 35.5 is a solid play - they need turnovers which, if they occur, puts the offense in good spots on the field and/or defensive points. If they can force Tebow to throw more than they want, they will come with that throwing delivery and the Bears oportunistic defense.
My prediction:
Bears 20
Broncos 17
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Hanie wasn't good last weekend, in fact, he looked razzled and uncomfortable in the pocket. He needs to make improvements for the Bears to win. Saying that, he did have 2 TD passes (Barber caught one, but was off the line of scrimmage, and Roy Williams dropped another) that would have made his stat line look a bit more respectable and probably would have beat the Chiefs.
The Bears defense has done a very good job. You can't complain much about a defense that gave up only 10 points (and 7 came on the Hail Mary pass). Saying that, the turnovers haven't been there since the Cutler injury and that has to change to win games as well.
Personally, I think the Beas getting points are a steal. Yes,Tebow has made plays in the 4th quarter and are at home, but I'm still not buying into Tebow as an answer there, or the Broncos as a team.
As for O/U, if I'm correct in Bears prediction, I think the over 35.5 is a solid play - they need turnovers which, if they occur, puts the offense in good spots on the field and/or defensive points. If they can force Tebow to throw more than they want, they will come with that throwing delivery and the Bears oportunistic defense.
I'm not here to talk shit against the bears or guarantee that the broncos will win, but I do think some things are being missed wrt why the line is what it is and what constitutes a good bet here.
The bears advocates are basically saying the bears defense will shutdown the broncos offense and some combination of scoring from defense and special teams combined with the possibility of hanie and barber stepping up will be enough to secure a win.
This line of thinking is one dimensional. We have two matchups to consider. Ask yourself who you expect to win the turnover battle? Do you really believe Hanie and Barber will outperform Tebow and Mcgahee in that regard?
I love Marion the Barbarian, but he's lost his burst. And more importantly, he was never the player that Forte is in the screen game.
Aren't you forgetting this is not the bears against a crappy defense, this is the depleted bears offense against one of the best performing defenses of the last 6 weeks?
Now factor out turnovers, etc. Assuming 0 turnovers, who wins - Tebow and Mcgahee or Hanie and Barber?
Why would you assume that in the absence of turnovers the latter would outperform the former? There is no basis for that assumption.
The best case scenario for the bears here is a win by a field goal or a td. The best case scenario for the broncos here is a complete annihilation of the bears via implosion of Hanie.
I dont think this is a great game to bet, but will certainly be on the denver side of the moneyline.
Under 35.5 is not bad either.
Tebow 17:13
If you are looking for dog plays this week, I would refer you to Houston over Cincinnati. If you're feeling friskier, I also like one or two of Tennessee, Carolina and Washington against the Saints, Falcons and Pats, in decreasing order of probability.
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I'm not here to talk shit against the bears or guarantee that the broncos will win, but I do think some things are being missed wrt why the line is what it is and what constitutes a good bet here.
The bears advocates are basically saying the bears defense will shutdown the broncos offense and some combination of scoring from defense and special teams combined with the possibility of hanie and barber stepping up will be enough to secure a win.
This line of thinking is one dimensional. We have two matchups to consider. Ask yourself who you expect to win the turnover battle? Do you really believe Hanie and Barber will outperform Tebow and Mcgahee in that regard?
I love Marion the Barbarian, but he's lost his burst. And more importantly, he was never the player that Forte is in the screen game.
Aren't you forgetting this is not the bears against a crappy defense, this is the depleted bears offense against one of the best performing defenses of the last 6 weeks?
Now factor out turnovers, etc. Assuming 0 turnovers, who wins - Tebow and Mcgahee or Hanie and Barber?
Why would you assume that in the absence of turnovers the latter would outperform the former? There is no basis for that assumption.
The best case scenario for the bears here is a win by a field goal or a td. The best case scenario for the broncos here is a complete annihilation of the bears via implosion of Hanie.
I dont think this is a great game to bet, but will certainly be on the denver side of the moneyline.
Under 35.5 is not bad either.
Tebow 17:13
If you are looking for dog plays this week, I would refer you to Houston over Cincinnati. If you're feeling friskier, I also like one or two of Tennessee, Carolina and Washington against the Saints, Falcons and Pats, in decreasing order of probability.
I'm telling you all. I was at the game last week in Chicago. 8th row, 45 yard line, behind the Bears bench. I've lived in Chicago for the last 30 years. I know Bears football.
The Bears defense kills it and has more in the tank. The core of that defense has been getting it done and winning divisions without any offense for years. They play up or down to their defense. When the O scores points, they seem to give up the big play more often, but when the O is not scoring, Brian, Briggs and company know how to put it on lock down.
It even struck me at the game that even though I know what a freak Peppers is, when you watch him from 15 away, it’s pretty insane.He stands out as an athlete on a field filled with professional athletes.
This is all coming to a man who is 4-1 in the last 5 weeks on Denver games.I bet against him the first 2 and made my mind up after the first loss, that I was going to bet on Tim Tesus for a while.While he has had success, I do not think he wins a 3rd consecutive road game against the best defense he has played thus far.Bears at +3.5 is the play. Look at it like this.Almost every possession the Bears had last week was a 3 and out and they still only lost because of the miracle hailmary at halftime.Tim Tesus is playing the Bears a week late and an offensive too short to get a miracle against the Bears.Don’t overthink.
Simple because Bronco will not play consecutively 3 road games. They are back to Mile High this weekend, bro
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Quote Originally Posted by grins1010:
I'm telling you all. I was at the game last week in Chicago. 8th row, 45 yard line, behind the Bears bench. I've lived in Chicago for the last 30 years. I know Bears football.
The Bears defense kills it and has more in the tank. The core of that defense has been getting it done and winning divisions without any offense for years. They play up or down to their defense. When the O scores points, they seem to give up the big play more often, but when the O is not scoring, Brian, Briggs and company know how to put it on lock down.
It even struck me at the game that even though I know what a freak Peppers is, when you watch him from 15 away, it’s pretty insane.He stands out as an athlete on a field filled with professional athletes.
This is all coming to a man who is 4-1 in the last 5 weeks on Denver games.I bet against him the first 2 and made my mind up after the first loss, that I was going to bet on Tim Tesus for a while.While he has had success, I do not think he wins a 3rd consecutive road game against the best defense he has played thus far.Bears at +3.5 is the play. Look at it like this.Almost every possession the Bears had last week was a 3 and out and they still only lost because of the miracle hailmary at halftime.Tim Tesus is playing the Bears a week late and an offensive too short to get a miracle against the Bears.Don’t overthink.
Simple because Bronco will not play consecutively 3 road games. They are back to Mile High this weekend, bro
Johnny- I think you are looking at this the wrong way. It isn't about Tebow moving it on Chicago, it is the fact that Von Miller is back and this Denver defense should destroy the Chicago offense. The Bears should struggle to score 10 points in my opinion, so if Denver scores 14 points, they cover. I could be wrong, but that is how I see it. For what it is worth also, I expect Denver to win/cover, Tebow to struggle and everyone to talk all about him once again.
I think you nailed it Aggie. This is a toss up and I think it's a no play for me. Even though, I'm so tempted to go with the Bears...but I probably don't have much balls to unleash a bet lol I'll leave that to the great cappers we have here, such as PTB, TRAIN69, yourself and many others to list.
BOL fellas! I'm really looking forward to this game.
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Quote Originally Posted by aggieaccountant:
Johnny- I think you are looking at this the wrong way. It isn't about Tebow moving it on Chicago, it is the fact that Von Miller is back and this Denver defense should destroy the Chicago offense. The Bears should struggle to score 10 points in my opinion, so if Denver scores 14 points, they cover. I could be wrong, but that is how I see it. For what it is worth also, I expect Denver to win/cover, Tebow to struggle and everyone to talk all about him once again.
I think you nailed it Aggie. This is a toss up and I think it's a no play for me. Even though, I'm so tempted to go with the Bears...but I probably don't have much balls to unleash a bet lol I'll leave that to the great cappers we have here, such as PTB, TRAIN69, yourself and many others to list.
BOL fellas! I'm really looking forward to this game.
What if "baby jesus" is all he's cranked up to be? Another miracle? Having said that, I'm staying away from this one. If Denver goes down in this one I will hammer them next week against New England.
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What if "baby jesus" is all he's cranked up to be? Another miracle? Having said that, I'm staying away from this one. If Denver goes down in this one I will hammer them next week against New England.
I'm not here to talk shit against the bears or guarantee that the broncos will win, but I do think some things are being missed wrt why the line is what it is and what constitutes a good bet here.
The bears advocates are basically saying the bears defense will shutdown the broncos offense and some combination of scoring from defense and special teams combined with the possibility of hanie and barber stepping up will be enough to secure a win.
This line of thinking is one dimensional. We have two matchups to consider. Ask yourself who you expect to win the turnover battle? Do you really believe Hanie and Barber will outperform Tebow and Mcgahee in that regard?
I love Marion the Barbarian, but he's lost his burst. And more importantly, he was never the player that Forte is in the screen game.
Aren't you forgetting this is not the bears against a crappy defense, this is the depleted bears offense against one of the best performing defenses of the last 6 weeks?
Now factor out turnovers, etc. Assuming 0 turnovers, who wins - Tebow and Mcgahee or Hanie and Barber?
Why would you assume that in the absence of turnovers the latter would outperform the former? There is no basis for that assumption.
The best case scenario for the bears here is a win by a field goal or a td. The best case scenario for the broncos here is a complete annihilation of the bears via implosion of Hanie.
I dont think this is a great game to bet, but will certainly be on the denver side of the moneyline.
Under 35.5 is not bad either.
Tebow 17:13
If you are looking for dog plays this week, I would refer you to Houston over Cincinnati. If you're feeling friskier, I also like one or two of Tennessee, Carolina and Washington against the Saints, Falcons and Pats, in decreasing order of probability.
This game will be close and all I am saying is the Broncos will have turnovers as they have not faced a defense this fast and cover 2 will force Tebow out of his game
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Quote Originally Posted by Howard_Jughes:
I'm not here to talk shit against the bears or guarantee that the broncos will win, but I do think some things are being missed wrt why the line is what it is and what constitutes a good bet here.
The bears advocates are basically saying the bears defense will shutdown the broncos offense and some combination of scoring from defense and special teams combined with the possibility of hanie and barber stepping up will be enough to secure a win.
This line of thinking is one dimensional. We have two matchups to consider. Ask yourself who you expect to win the turnover battle? Do you really believe Hanie and Barber will outperform Tebow and Mcgahee in that regard?
I love Marion the Barbarian, but he's lost his burst. And more importantly, he was never the player that Forte is in the screen game.
Aren't you forgetting this is not the bears against a crappy defense, this is the depleted bears offense against one of the best performing defenses of the last 6 weeks?
Now factor out turnovers, etc. Assuming 0 turnovers, who wins - Tebow and Mcgahee or Hanie and Barber?
Why would you assume that in the absence of turnovers the latter would outperform the former? There is no basis for that assumption.
The best case scenario for the bears here is a win by a field goal or a td. The best case scenario for the broncos here is a complete annihilation of the bears via implosion of Hanie.
I dont think this is a great game to bet, but will certainly be on the denver side of the moneyline.
Under 35.5 is not bad either.
Tebow 17:13
If you are looking for dog plays this week, I would refer you to Houston over Cincinnati. If you're feeling friskier, I also like one or two of Tennessee, Carolina and Washington against the Saints, Falcons and Pats, in decreasing order of probability.
This game will be close and all I am saying is the Broncos will have turnovers as they have not faced a defense this fast and cover 2 will force Tebow out of his game
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lol I'll leave that to the great cappers we have here, such as PTB, TRAIN69, yourself and many others to list. 
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