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    Did Cardale Jones blow it??

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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2015 - 2:06 AM ET #1

    Just a question for all of you...but going back to school where he might not be the starting QB next year behind Barrett and Braxton Milller......His Mojo is at his Peak and if I'm not confused has a child on the way and doesn't particularly like school......Doesn't he have to take the Money that is gonna be guaranteed for his new found family......and play and learn behind a well established QB??....maybe Big Ben or Eli Manning.......while making the Money.......
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    Just a question for all of you...but going back to school where he might not be the starting QB next year behind Barrett and Braxton Milller......His Mojo is at his Peak and if I'm not confused has a child on the way and doesn't particularly like school......Doesn't he have to take the Money that is gonna be guaranteed for his new found family......and play and learn behind a well established QB??....maybe Big Ben or Eli Manning.......while making the Money.......
     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2015 - 2:12 AM ET #2

    Where do you think he would be taken after 4 career starts? Smart move by him
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    Where do you think he would be taken after 4 career starts? Smart move by him
     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2015 - 2:23 AM ET #3

    Finishing his education will be a guarantee for earning money in the next 40 years.
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2015 - 2:28 AM ET #4

    Suuma and NYG...I know its the smart decision........but He is bigger than Mariota at this point based on the so called eye test......I get the education point of view but man his stock is so high right now.....you have to think about declaring...especially if he might not be the starting QB next year behing 2 talented QB's next year...............
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    Suuma and NYG...I know its the smart decision........but He is bigger than Mariota at this point based on the so called eye test......I get the education point of view but man his stock is so high right now.....you have to think about declaring...especially if he might not be the starting QB next year behing 2 talented QB's next year...............
     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2015 - 2:41 AM ET #5

    Gotta take the money........
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2015 - 2:45 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by suuma:

    Finishing his education will be a guarantee for earning money in the next 40 years.

    He ain't coming back to hit the books Suuma.


    He's coming back to start under center, declare next year and guarantee himself a top 10 selection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by suuma:

    Finishing his education will be a guarantee for earning money in the next 40 years.

    He ain't coming back to hit the books Suuma.


    He's coming back to start under center, declare next year and guarantee himself a top 10 selection.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2015 - 2:46 AM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by lmb4321:

    Gotta take the money........

    What money? A high second rounder doesn't make a ton of money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lmb4321:

    Gotta take the money........

    What money? A high second rounder doesn't make a ton of money.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2015 - 2:50 AM ET #8

    Scal......so he is gonna start ahead of Braxton Miller and Barrett??....is that guaranteed??.....
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2015 - 2:51 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    He ain't coming back to hit the books Suuma.


    He's coming back to start under center, declare next year and guarantee himself a top 10 selection.


    Seems like  some Twitter news weren't correctly. Thanks for the heads up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    He ain't coming back to hit the books Suuma.


    He's coming back to start under center, declare next year and guarantee himself a top 10 selection.


    Seems like  some Twitter news weren't correctly. Thanks for the heads up.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2015 - 3:27 AM ET #10

    So is Cardale gonna be the starting QB next year??....is that what Urban Meyer said to him........his stock is so High...he has to consider taking care of his family.....
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    So is Cardale gonna be the starting QB next year??....is that what Urban Meyer said to him........his stock is so High...he has to consider taking care of his family.....
     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2015 - 4:26 AM ET #11

    he $houldve $truck when the iron was hottt,his $tock was high as it will go. he can only get hurt, suck, etc,etc,etc get hit by a bus etc,..However i know for sure that they promised him the staring gig. book it. bank it.
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    he $houldve $truck when the iron was hottt,his $tock was high as it will go. he can only get hurt, suck, etc,etc,etc get hit by a bus etc,..However i know for sure that they promised him the staring gig. book it. bank it.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2015 - 9:53 AM ET #12

    He needs a ton of seasoning.  Urban's offense can win at the college level but it doesn't prepare the QB for the NFL.  it is a one read offense without a lot of running.  
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    He needs a ton of seasoning.  Urban's offense can win at the college level but it doesn't prepare the QB for the NFL.  it is a one read offense without a lot of running.  
     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2015 - 10:28 AM ET #13

    Not a lot of running??? He picked up at least 3 key 3rd downs with his legs, abusing smaller tacklers. FINISH COLLEGE NOT in 4 years or probably ever??? Hasn't he already been there over 2 years? I realize a 2nd rounder doesn't get the "cha-ching," but he'd make that up on endorsements-eg.- Snickers, Johnny Manzell.- on his story alone. He's a hot topic now...who knows in 8 months. Really wish him well and sincerely enjoyed his work, I'm sure Wisconsin, Alabama and Oregon do not. BOL this weekend  
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    Not a lot of running??? He picked up at least 3 key 3rd downs with his legs, abusing smaller tacklers. FINISH COLLEGE NOT in 4 years or probably ever??? Hasn't he already been there over 2 years? I realize a 2nd rounder doesn't get the "cha-ching," but he'd make that up on endorsements-eg.- Snickers, Johnny Manzell.- on his story alone. He's a hot topic now...who knows in 8 months. Really wish him well and sincerely enjoyed his work, I'm sure Wisconsin, Alabama and Oregon do not. BOL this weekend  
     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2015 - 11:07 AM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    What money? A high second rounder doesn't make a ton of money.
    What team with a high 2nd round pick is in position to gamble on a prospect?
     I would see him going on day 3 to a team that didn't need him right away.......& even then he may only end up on a practice squad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    What money? A high second rounder doesn't make a ton of money.
    What team with a high 2nd round pick is in position to gamble on a prospect?
     I would see him going on day 3 to a team that didn't need him right away.......& even then he may only end up on a practice squad.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2015 - 11:20 AM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by alloy145:

    Not a lot of running??? He picked up at least 3 key 3rd downs with his legs, abusing smaller tacklers. FINISH COLLEGE NOT in 4 years or probably ever??? Hasn't he already been there over 2 years? I realize a 2nd rounder doesn't get the "cha-ching," but he'd make that up on endorsements-eg.- Snickers, Johnny Manzell.- on his story alone. He's a hot topic now...who knows in 8 months. Really wish him well and sincerely enjoyed his work, I'm sure Wisconsin, Alabama and Oregon do not. BOL this weekend  

    Even though Jones ran over the NT from Oregon, that won't happen at the next level. If this guy bans out in college, he could be the next Duante Culpepper.

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    Not a lot of running??? He picked up at least 3 key 3rd downs with his legs, abusing smaller tacklers. FINISH COLLEGE NOT in 4 years or probably ever??? Hasn't he already been there over 2 years? I realize a 2nd rounder doesn't get the "cha-ching," but he'd make that up on endorsements-eg.- Snickers, Johnny Manzell.- on his story alone. He's a hot topic now...who knows in 8 months. Really wish him well and sincerely enjoyed his work, I'm sure Wisconsin, Alabama and Oregon do not. BOL this weekend  

    Even though Jones ran over the NT from Oregon, that won't happen at the next level. If this guy bans out in college, he could be the next Duante Culpepper.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2015 - 11:21 AM ET #16

    pans out in college****
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2015 - 11:30 AM ET #17

    That kid would get smoked at the next level. He isn't even close. He needs at least another year of reading defenses and development. He declares now, he'll be waxing my car in 3 years.
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    That kid would get smoked at the next level. He isn't even close. He needs at least another year of reading defenses and development. He declares now, he'll be waxing my car in 3 years.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2015 - 11:57 AM ET #18

    He has no chance in the  NFL
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2015 - 12:14 PM ET #19

    yes he will start, lets not be silly....you dont beat Bama and Oregon in playoffs and get a NT to go sub the following year....lets get real...this (NCAAAF) is a business like any other. He discussed it with tOSU and made his decision accordingly.
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    yes he will start, lets not be silly....you dont beat Bama and Oregon in playoffs and get a NT to go sub the following year....lets get real...this (NCAAAF) is a business like any other. He discussed it with tOSU and made his decision accordingly.
     
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    Why is he guaranteed to start? He doesn't even come close to the passing stats Barrett put up.  Elliott carried that offense in both of those games.  Jones picked up some big first downs but he was in that situation because he was inept in the passing game.  The Ohio State offense will be much more potent with Barrett at qb. 
    Jones should have left while his stock was high
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    Why is he guaranteed to start? He doesn't even come close to the passing stats Barrett put up.  Elliott carried that offense in both of those games.  Jones picked up some big first downs but he was in that situation because he was inept in the passing game.  The Ohio State offense will be much more potent with Barrett at qb. 
    Jones should have left while his stock was high
     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2015 - 5:44 PM ET #21

    I'm not sure Cardale would of gotten drafted, had he elected to enter the NFL Draft. I'd bet a ton of money at -120 he'd have gone fourth round or later. He said it himself, he isn't ready for the next level , and I think that's pretty obvious.

     

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    I'm not sure Cardale would of gotten drafted, had he elected to enter the NFL Draft. I'd bet a ton of money at -120 he'd have gone fourth round or later. He said it himself, he isn't ready for the next level , and I think that's pretty obvious.

     

     
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    Vince Young.....
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    The issue is will he play? If not, then it was a dumb financial decision. There's no way he'll improve his draft stock by being a backup.  Why not strike while the iron is hot?  Even a third round pick pays better than being a college kid.

    And it's not like he can never go back to college after his playing days are over. So it isn't as if he has to choose between education and NFL. 

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    The issue is will he play? If not, then it was a dumb financial decision. There's no way he'll improve his draft stock by being a backup.  Why not strike while the iron is hot?  Even a third round pick pays better than being a college kid.

    And it's not like he can never go back to college after his playing days are over. So it isn't as if he has to choose between education and NFL. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by composite:

    The issue is will he play? If not, then it was a dumb financial decision. There's no way he'll improve his draft stock by being a backup.  Why not strike while the iron is hot?  Even a third round pick pays better than being a college kid.

    And it's not like he can never go back to college after his playing days are over. So it isn't as if he has to choose between education and NFL. 


    He isn't going back to school now for the education, he is going back because he will be BMOC.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by composite:

    The issue is will he play? If not, then it was a dumb financial decision. There's no way he'll improve his draft stock by being a backup.  Why not strike while the iron is hot?  Even a third round pick pays better than being a college kid.

    And it's not like he can never go back to college after his playing days are over. So it isn't as if he has to choose between education and NFL. 


    He isn't going back to school now for the education, he is going back because he will be BMOC.  
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2015 - 12:43 AM ET #25

    Didn't somekne report that he's transferring to FSU to replace Winston?
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