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staying away, too much uncertainty in this one. GL
 
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Play it.  You're on to it.
 
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BOL....INTERESTING WRITE UP...
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Ball_Picker:

I like it ManRam! 


Line is set so low. Vegas knows people will jump on the Saints at this low of a line because Philly is playing a backup QB. Easy winner, right? Well, no. Philly is a tough place to play and they have a good defense. I may sound crazy, but I don't think Philly loses a whole lot when Kolb goes in to play QB. He can make the same throws and McNabb and he utilizes the same weapons in the same ways, so the game plan really doesn't have to change.

Good luck!


Really? Well to post a quote from an expert, "Kolb has given the Eagles little reason to feel confident having committed seven turnovers with no touchdowns during his NFL career".  Not to mention having a new defensive coordinator and starting 3 new O lineman for this game as well. This a Non play or at least a small play on the Saints as there are too many variables in this one to cap a normal matchup between the 2  teams based on past results.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Ball_Picker:

I like it ManRam! 


Line is set so low. Vegas knows people will jump on the Saints at this low of a line because Philly is playing a backup QB. Easy winner, right? Well, no. Philly is a tough place to play and they have a good defense. I may sound crazy, but I don't think Philly loses a whole lot when Kolb goes in to play QB. He can make the same throws and McNabb and he utilizes the same weapons in the same ways, so the game plan really doesn't have to change.

Good luck!


To say this you must be related to Kolb. Kolb to this point is unproven. I'd like to see him have a good game but to say they don't lose something when hes in for Mcnabb is stretching it. IMHO.........There are alot of weapons there for him to use and I am sure the game plan from Reid will be toned down you give Kolb the opportunity to succeed today. Alot of the outcome of this game will be the Eagles defense and them stopping the Saints. Brees gonna be throwing all day long cause they won't run it to well

 
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Good Luck Ram
 
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I've seen enough enough Saints-Eagles games to watch you guys slug this one out from the sideline.  Recent matchups have been wacky or wild, and the injuries/factors surrounding this week 2 game will ensure that it's a crapshoot again. 

BOL whomever you roll with                 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by HeadOverHeart:

Why play this one at all?

For one thing, I wouldn't want to go against Brees and Co. in any spot.

Better dishes on the table, IMO.

NFL Network analysts are five for the Saints, zero for the Eagles, btw.

ok first off you have a saints avatar. should i expect anything reasonable out of your mouth? absolutly not because your a fanatic that doesent think with his head but with his heart. but come on im supposed to back off because people on the NFL network are picking the Saints. HAHA. thats like saying i should always be tailing Hank Goldberg the hammer and Keyshawn Johnson. In my opinion this IS the game this weekend and there is nothing i like more. if im wrong so be it. im not perfect

 
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BOL ManRam
 
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Like the play 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by ManRam24:

Season 6-0 +$1,200. Like one so far. Still long way away from kickoff so play could change but looks good right now. Line is so low obviously because of McNabb being out. This team still has a great defense and the Saints are AWAY from home which is the ONLY place these guys play good. Lets take a look last year  when the Saints were asked to leave New Orleans to go into a place with the "high powered" offense against a garbage QB. I say against a garbage QB because this can be the ONLY reason why you would take the saints at -1 because of Kolb starting.
 
2008:
Saints @ Bears and the neck beard Kyle Orton. Saints lose 27-24. Brees 2 picks
 
Saints @ Tampa and the ageless one Jeff Garcia ( went 9-23 with 119 yards in this game ) Saints lose 23-20. Brees 3 picks
 
Saints @ Atlanta against the next great thing Matt Ryan ( not garbage by any means but still unproven ) Saints lose 34-20. Brees 3 picks.
 
Saints @ Panthers against Mr. 11 turnovers in his last 2 games Jake Delhomme. Saints lose 30-7. Brees 0 TD 1 pick
 
Saints @ Redskins against Jason Campbell. Saints lose 24-29. Brees 2 picks.
 
 
My point being against all these teams they all have above average defenses which makes the Saints a very one dimensional team. You cant do this in the NFL. Im sorry Saints but you ARE NOT running on the Eagles. Take a look last week against the Panthers and the best ground game in the NFL with Stewart and Williams. 72 yards between the 2 of them. You take your chance on a team with no defense and no running game and ill be taking the team who I KNOW will be able to run the ball and I KNOW will be able to play defense. Facts with the Eagles...Questions with the Saints. Biggest play of the NFL season so far. Good luck to everyone this weekend.
 
Eagles +1 OVER Saints
$440-$400
 
 
 
 
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ManRam i've been following your picks since last year ( like 1 of 2 people's threads I actually read ) not just this ncaa and nfl season, for the most part always agreeing but your solid. It seems in both ncaa and nfl this year you have the a ton of squares who think that by you going against the public that your analysis is wrong and your going to lose. Its quite comical. GL with the eagles today, considering Brees wont throw another 6 Tds today.

<--------- No lol, its just called respect.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by bangerboy:

ManRam your philosophy on this game is totally wrong. You will lose money betting the NFL thinking about last year. Every team finds a way to improve there weak spots from the year past. For example the Saints defense last week ONLY gave up TWO touchdowns to the Lions. Detroit was 1 for 13 on 3rd downs. Also this defense forced 3 interceptions. My point is the Saints has a NEW DEFENSIVE CORDINATOR IN GREG WILLIAMS. He is one of the most well RESPECTED IN THE GAME! He came in and got rid of the TWO starters at CORNER last year. JASON DAVID AND MIKE MIKENZIE! He brought in Jabori Greer and rookie from last year who was starting before he got injured TRACY PORTER IS NOW STARTING. They also have BALL HOG DARREN SHARPER at Safety. FOR ALL OF YOU WHO IS BETTING THIS GAME OFF OF LAST YEAR NEED TO WAKE UP AND REALIZE THIS IS NOT THE SAME SAINTS DEFENSE. DETROIT SCORED 27 POINTS BUT TWO WERE OFF OF THE DEFENSE THE OTHER TOUCHDOWNS WERE SPECIAL TEAMS AND TURNOVERS. I like the Saints in this game, and I think the sharps do to. This line is moving in the favor of New Orleans. I expect the SQUARES to be betting PHILLY off of what NEW ORLEANS did LAST YEAR!! That's not a smart way of gambling and you wont make a profit thinking like that. I been doing this for a long time and this true people. You will not make money betting on sports of you think about long term You have to think short term.
 
New Orleans -1 , new improved defense and I think they will prove it to the squares tommorrow. I'm rolling with the smart money!


Agreed!  I read that and seems to be just reckless betting otherwise, totally agreed.  Make no mistake, Greg Williams will shapeshift Saints D into a top 10 unit.  Last week, I believe he was just getting warmed up (and playing down with cozy lead - they're were looking to Week 2 by the 4 qtr last week).  C'mon, this game has a totally different look with Kolb starting vs. Brees??  No contest.  But if Garcia is thrown in there, this could be a strategic move on Philly's part (wouldn't surprise me with Reid)... but Williams will prevail in that QB switch scenario. Saints really look the better play for the buck. 
 
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Good Luck Man
 
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thanks everyone
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Tipster22:



Agreed!  I read that and seems to be just reckless betting otherwise, totally agreed.  Make no mistake, Greg Williams will shapeshift Saints D into a top 10 unit.  Last week, I believe he was just getting warmed up (and playing down with cozy lead - they're were looking to Week 2 by the 4 qtr last week).  C'mon, this game has a totally different look with Kolb starting vs. Brees??  No contest.  But if Garcia is thrown in there, this could be a strategic move on Philly's part (wouldn't surprise me with Reid)... but Williams will prevail in that QB switch scenario. Saints really look the better play for the buck. 

funny how the 2 people who cant look at this with a level head are the 2 with saints avatars. come on now. your team is a HORRIBLE road team and they always have been. Now your telling me their a road fav to possibly the best team in the NFC. dont care if there is no mcnabb. westbrook will have 100 rushing and recieving

 
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Kinda diggin the Bears and Giants in the late games
 
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Quote Originally Posted by jmbPT:

You make some good points...I have the Saints PK.  Phil won't stop Brees with all his weapons and will be one dimensional with Kolb at QB. 
 
GL


Aftrer last week, don't you think the line would be a little higher?   Brees on fire, McNabb's ribs....etc.

I'll take the home doggie with the better defense.....PHI + 2.


 
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When something looks obvious to the average fan, go the other way.  Look at NE last Monday.  Phil is the play this way.  Vegas is going to make a killing unless the smart money comes in late to level things off.
 
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My best play is Buf ML
 
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Good analysis Man Ram. 

Bangerboy thinks Detroit is the new NFL standard. 
 
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manram, i love you dont be a sucka fool posts. . . but i really love the saints here. . . but im going to stay away. . .
 
loved the detroit pick last week, went big with u, it was a crazy game. . . .
 
im going big on san fran -1
 
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Sound reasoning - I just went with the over since I couldn't land on a side.  BOL 
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