I have a good read on this team watching every game they play at least once and have predicted almost all their matches bar 1 or 2 so far. Eagles haven't been blownout, they have been in all their games and mainly lost due to turnovers, bad coaching plays or not enough production on the offence.
Eagles have the best defensive line in the whole league at the moment. Brandon Graham is playing as well as Von Miller or at the least very close and the stats back it up. Fletcher Cox is playing good not great but should have a good matchup here. Eagles line backers have been amazing. Jordan Hicks is in the best 5 linebackers in the whole league and Nigel Bradham is up their as well atleast in the top 20. Connor Barwin is ok looks to be on the improve but we need to see more from him. Vinny curry is playing above average.
They will have continued pressure against Seattle's offensive line and Russell Wilson wont get much time at all in the pocket. Saying that he is obvious used to this and great at moving but that is not ideal to say the least.
Weakness is obviously the Eagles cornerbacks. Nolan Carroll is likely out but he is nothing special anyway. In a game like this Wilson just won't get the time to take advantage of them. They will have to settle for quick passes, screens, draw plays. They won't be able to run the ball with success. I doubt they will score more than 1 touchdown all game if that. It's going to be a bit of luck involved - They will blitz Wilson, he will attempt some deep balls to one on one receivers and if they are going to win they will have to make some of these huge plays or at least get pass interference calls.
Bad spot for Seattle going on the road and beating the Patriots, potential let down spot here.
Seattle is probably the hardest place to play for an offense especially a rookie quarterback due to the huge noise. The eagles haven't played well on the road this year compared to where they are undefeated at home. This isn't going to last forever and they are due for a road win. So how will they score on offense? Their offense will benefit after playing a bad defense in Atlanta last week which is obviously much worse than Seattle's. It will help them in the way that they will have more confidence and better relationships for Wentz to throw to, more rhythm. Ryan Matthews is healthy again and sproles has been a slimy little guy that defenders constantly miss. Seattle has given up an average of 29 points per game over the previous 3 games.
The main reason the eagles are going to be able to put up some points is because their defence is going to keep Seattle of the field.
I expect the eagles to put up around 21-28 points here however i think Seattle will only have a maximum of 16-21 points. Betting against the spread is for chumps just take the money line in all games, always shop around for the best price especially for dogs, money line where you will get considerably more value if you shop around, be sure to have at least 10 bookie accounts for this it makes a huge difference in the long run.
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I have a good read on this team watching every game they play at least once and have predicted almost all their matches bar 1 or 2 so far. Eagles haven't been blownout, they have been in all their games and mainly lost due to turnovers, bad coaching plays or not enough production on the offence.
Eagles have the best defensive line in the whole league at the moment. Brandon Graham is playing as well as Von Miller or at the least very close and the stats back it up. Fletcher Cox is playing good not great but should have a good matchup here. Eagles line backers have been amazing. Jordan Hicks is in the best 5 linebackers in the whole league and Nigel Bradham is up their as well atleast in the top 20. Connor Barwin is ok looks to be on the improve but we need to see more from him. Vinny curry is playing above average.
They will have continued pressure against Seattle's offensive line and Russell Wilson wont get much time at all in the pocket. Saying that he is obvious used to this and great at moving but that is not ideal to say the least.
Weakness is obviously the Eagles cornerbacks. Nolan Carroll is likely out but he is nothing special anyway. In a game like this Wilson just won't get the time to take advantage of them. They will have to settle for quick passes, screens, draw plays. They won't be able to run the ball with success. I doubt they will score more than 1 touchdown all game if that. It's going to be a bit of luck involved - They will blitz Wilson, he will attempt some deep balls to one on one receivers and if they are going to win they will have to make some of these huge plays or at least get pass interference calls.
Bad spot for Seattle going on the road and beating the Patriots, potential let down spot here.
Seattle is probably the hardest place to play for an offense especially a rookie quarterback due to the huge noise. The eagles haven't played well on the road this year compared to where they are undefeated at home. This isn't going to last forever and they are due for a road win. So how will they score on offense? Their offense will benefit after playing a bad defense in Atlanta last week which is obviously much worse than Seattle's. It will help them in the way that they will have more confidence and better relationships for Wentz to throw to, more rhythm. Ryan Matthews is healthy again and sproles has been a slimy little guy that defenders constantly miss. Seattle has given up an average of 29 points per game over the previous 3 games.
The main reason the eagles are going to be able to put up some points is because their defence is going to keep Seattle of the field.
I expect the eagles to put up around 21-28 points here however i think Seattle will only have a maximum of 16-21 points. Betting against the spread is for chumps just take the money line in all games, always shop around for the best price especially for dogs, money line where you will get considerably more value if you shop around, be sure to have at least 10 bookie accounts for this it makes a huge difference in the long run.
Agreed. I was going to make a thread just like this. Seahawks have won a few games they should have lost. Eagles have lost a few games they should have won. Bills should have won in seattle. Dolphins should have won in seattle. Falcons too. Eagles will do it on sunday.
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Agreed. I was going to make a thread just like this. Seahawks have won a few games they should have lost. Eagles have lost a few games they should have won. Bills should have won in seattle. Dolphins should have won in seattle. Falcons too. Eagles will do it on sunday.
No way. The NFL is propping up SEA for the playoffs. They have already been gifted a few wins blatantly.
They are on their way to the NFC Championship game. BOOK IT.
Not the Eagles year.
This theory doesn't hold up. They gave seattle a win last year on Monday night against the lions and helped them in other games after the slow start and they still didn't make it.
Remember the fail mary game in 2012, didn't make it.
I believe Eagles will make the title game and win it.
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Quote Originally Posted by DRIBBLE4LIFE:
No way. The NFL is propping up SEA for the playoffs. They have already been gifted a few wins blatantly.
They are on their way to the NFC Championship game. BOOK IT.
Not the Eagles year.
This theory doesn't hold up. They gave seattle a win last year on Monday night against the lions and helped them in other games after the slow start and they still didn't make it.
Remember the fail mary game in 2012, didn't make it.
I believe Eagles will make the title game and win it.
mmmmm. hadnt looked at it that way, Suuma, I gotta admit. GREAT point, indeed. If that is the case, I would say ATL or PHI then, to play Cinderella and at least reach the NFC title game.
Still havin a tough tiem seein it, tho
Let me bring up a different theory:
The Giants sneak into the playoffs as the 5th or 6th seed and upset all three opponents on the road. 2007, 2012, 2017 - five-year rhythm for the Giants. They have everything they need - a decent defense and they can make enough plays on offense. Just checked the box score and highlights, Bengals had 8 penalties, Giants 2. Bengals don't let the Giants score a TD in the end?? That was weird. Maybe someone wants them in the playoffs. Then they lose at Houston because Eli won't have more rings than Peyton.
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Quote Originally Posted by DRIBBLE4LIFE:
mmmmm. hadnt looked at it that way, Suuma, I gotta admit. GREAT point, indeed. If that is the case, I would say ATL or PHI then, to play Cinderella and at least reach the NFC title game.
Still havin a tough tiem seein it, tho
Let me bring up a different theory:
The Giants sneak into the playoffs as the 5th or 6th seed and upset all three opponents on the road. 2007, 2012, 2017 - five-year rhythm for the Giants. They have everything they need - a decent defense and they can make enough plays on offense. Just checked the box score and highlights, Bengals had 8 penalties, Giants 2. Bengals don't let the Giants score a TD in the end?? That was weird. Maybe someone wants them in the playoffs. Then they lose at Houston because Eli won't have more rings than Peyton.
'Potential letdown spot', Why do people bring this g-arbage up in week 11? Potential let downs only happen early on in the season or when a team has wrapped things up late on and has a big team on deck. How the hell do you overlook a good Eagles side who just beat the high flying Falcons? Come on man, Jesus.
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'Potential letdown spot', Why do people bring this g-arbage up in week 11? Potential let downs only happen early on in the season or when a team has wrapped things up late on and has a big team on deck. How the hell do you overlook a good Eagles side who just beat the high flying Falcons? Come on man, Jesus.
'Potential letdown spot', Why do people bring this g-arbage up in week 11? Potential let downs only happen early on in the season or when a team has wrapped things up late on and has a big team on deck. How the hell do you overlook a good Eagles side who just beat the high flying Falcons? Come on man, Jesus.
You don't understand the nature of a letdown spot. It's not that they are overlooking the Eagles, but their preparation won't be 100%. After a big win, we tend to fly high, getting a good mood and think we can beat everyone. We don't focus 100% on the next opponent. That's simply human nature. Same thing with a lookahead-spot. Panthers were up 17-0 vs. KC. It feels like a sure win and you as players start thinking about what comes next - a Thursday night revenge home game vs the Saints. It wasn't psychology alone, but it had something to do with the collapse. You don't play 100% the rest of the game.
Seahawks players came back late to Seattle off a Super Bowl revenge and a big statement win at New England with a last-minute goalline stand. It's gonna be tough to get into full preparation mode for the Eagles. Will the talent discrepancy be enough to overcome this spot? Maybe. But these spots happen, no matter at what time in the season.
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Quote Originally Posted by SwishSwish1234:
'Potential letdown spot', Why do people bring this g-arbage up in week 11? Potential let downs only happen early on in the season or when a team has wrapped things up late on and has a big team on deck. How the hell do you overlook a good Eagles side who just beat the high flying Falcons? Come on man, Jesus.
You don't understand the nature of a letdown spot. It's not that they are overlooking the Eagles, but their preparation won't be 100%. After a big win, we tend to fly high, getting a good mood and think we can beat everyone. We don't focus 100% on the next opponent. That's simply human nature. Same thing with a lookahead-spot. Panthers were up 17-0 vs. KC. It feels like a sure win and you as players start thinking about what comes next - a Thursday night revenge home game vs the Saints. It wasn't psychology alone, but it had something to do with the collapse. You don't play 100% the rest of the game.
Seahawks players came back late to Seattle off a Super Bowl revenge and a big statement win at New England with a last-minute goalline stand. It's gonna be tough to get into full preparation mode for the Eagles. Will the talent discrepancy be enough to overcome this spot? Maybe. But these spots happen, no matter at what time in the season.
You don't understand the nature of a letdown spot. It's not that they are overlooking the Eagles, but their preparation won't be 100%. After a big win, we tend to fly high, getting a good mood and think we can beat everyone. We don't focus 100% on the next opponent. That's simply human nature. Same thing with a lookahead-spot. Panthers were up 17-0 vs. KC. It feels like a sure win and you as players start thinking about what comes next - a Thursday night revenge home game vs the Saints. It wasn't psychology alone, but it had something to do with the collapse. You don't play 100% the rest of the game.
Seahawks players came back late to Seattle off a Super Bowl revenge and a big statement win at New England with a last-minute goalline stand. It's gonna be tough to get into full preparation mode for the Eagles. Will the talent discrepancy be enough to overcome this spot? Maybe. But these spots happen, no matter at what time in the season.
You just contradicted yourself there Suuma, You said a potential let down is 'Not that they are overlooking the Eagles but that there preparation won't be 100 %, After a big win we tend to fly high, getting a good mood and think we can beat everyone'. Well the Eagles just beat the Falcons in a hard fought victory as home dogs, Which was also classified as a big win. Stopping the leagues best offense, How comes the let down spot isn't labelled at them? They have to travel as well. The line for this game is not inflated, Which is usually a tell tale sign of a let down spot, I had the Seahawks as a minimum of -5.5/6 and the number is right around there.
If we're discussing let down spots the Cowboys are in one, You beat the nations darling team away from home in a prime time slot as underdog, You're on 8 game ATS streak and then come home to face those pesky, Hard working Ravens who have no let down spot as they are coming off rest and an exhibition game the previous week. The line for this game is fundamentally Dallas -5, But it's inflated to 7.5, Again inflated lines are a tell tale sign of let down spots.
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Quote Originally Posted by suuma:
You don't understand the nature of a letdown spot. It's not that they are overlooking the Eagles, but their preparation won't be 100%. After a big win, we tend to fly high, getting a good mood and think we can beat everyone. We don't focus 100% on the next opponent. That's simply human nature. Same thing with a lookahead-spot. Panthers were up 17-0 vs. KC. It feels like a sure win and you as players start thinking about what comes next - a Thursday night revenge home game vs the Saints. It wasn't psychology alone, but it had something to do with the collapse. You don't play 100% the rest of the game.
Seahawks players came back late to Seattle off a Super Bowl revenge and a big statement win at New England with a last-minute goalline stand. It's gonna be tough to get into full preparation mode for the Eagles. Will the talent discrepancy be enough to overcome this spot? Maybe. But these spots happen, no matter at what time in the season.
You just contradicted yourself there Suuma, You said a potential let down is 'Not that they are overlooking the Eagles but that there preparation won't be 100 %, After a big win we tend to fly high, getting a good mood and think we can beat everyone'. Well the Eagles just beat the Falcons in a hard fought victory as home dogs, Which was also classified as a big win. Stopping the leagues best offense, How comes the let down spot isn't labelled at them? They have to travel as well. The line for this game is not inflated, Which is usually a tell tale sign of a let down spot, I had the Seahawks as a minimum of -5.5/6 and the number is right around there.
If we're discussing let down spots the Cowboys are in one, You beat the nations darling team away from home in a prime time slot as underdog, You're on 8 game ATS streak and then come home to face those pesky, Hard working Ravens who have no let down spot as they are coming off rest and an exhibition game the previous week. The line for this game is fundamentally Dallas -5, But it's inflated to 7.5, Again inflated lines are a tell tale sign of let down spots.
You just contradicted yourself there Suuma, You said a potential let down is 'Not that they are overlooking the Eagles but that there preparation won't be 100 %, After a big win we tend to fly high, getting a good mood and think we can beat everyone'. Well the Eagles just beat the Falcons in a hard fought victory as home dogs, Which was also classified as a big win. Stopping the leagues best offense, How comes the let down spot isn't labelled at them? They have to travel as well. The line for this game is not inflated, Which is usually a tell tale sign of a let down spot, I had the Seahawks as a minimum of -5.5/6 and the number is right around there.
If we're discussing let down spots the Cowboys are in one, You beat the nations darling team away from home in a prime time slot as underdog, You're on 8 game ATS streak and then come home to face those pesky, Hard working Ravens who have no let down spot as they are coming off rest and an exhibition game the previous week. The line for this game is fundamentally Dallas -5, But it's inflated to 7.5, Again inflated lines are a tell tale sign of let down spots.
The difference is that for the Eagles it's a big game and a big business game whereas the Seahawks have a 2gm division lead. Also beating the Falcons at home at noon is a different thing than beating the Pats AT New England on national TV.
Completely agree on the Ravens. Hopefully we will get 7.5 soon.
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Quote Originally Posted by SwishSwish1234:
You just contradicted yourself there Suuma, You said a potential let down is 'Not that they are overlooking the Eagles but that there preparation won't be 100 %, After a big win we tend to fly high, getting a good mood and think we can beat everyone'. Well the Eagles just beat the Falcons in a hard fought victory as home dogs, Which was also classified as a big win. Stopping the leagues best offense, How comes the let down spot isn't labelled at them? They have to travel as well. The line for this game is not inflated, Which is usually a tell tale sign of a let down spot, I had the Seahawks as a minimum of -5.5/6 and the number is right around there.
If we're discussing let down spots the Cowboys are in one, You beat the nations darling team away from home in a prime time slot as underdog, You're on 8 game ATS streak and then come home to face those pesky, Hard working Ravens who have no let down spot as they are coming off rest and an exhibition game the previous week. The line for this game is fundamentally Dallas -5, But it's inflated to 7.5, Again inflated lines are a tell tale sign of let down spots.
The difference is that for the Eagles it's a big game and a big business game whereas the Seahawks have a 2gm division lead. Also beating the Falcons at home at noon is a different thing than beating the Pats AT New England on national TV.
Completely agree on the Ravens. Hopefully we will get 7.5 soon.
Philly is my strongest lean of the week, check my thread for more detail.
While Seattle is 4-0 at home and Philly is 1-4 on the road. The aggregate records Seattle has played at home are: 4 - 5.25 whereas the aggregate records Philly has played on the road are: 5.2 - 3.6. So clearly Philly has had a stronger strength of schedule in comparison.
Philly's points per game on the road:
Scored: 23.6
Gave up: 24.4
4 out of 5 games were within a TD
Seattle's points per game at home:
Scored: 26.5
Gave up: 19.25
3 out of 4 games were within a TD
the 4th being a blowout against the 1-8 49er's
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Philly is my strongest lean of the week, check my thread for more detail.
While Seattle is 4-0 at home and Philly is 1-4 on the road. The aggregate records Seattle has played at home are: 4 - 5.25 whereas the aggregate records Philly has played on the road are: 5.2 - 3.6. So clearly Philly has had a stronger strength of schedule in comparison.
Philly is my strongest lean of the week, check my thread for more detail.
While Seattle is 4-0 at home and Philly is 1-4 on the road. The aggregate records Seattle has played at home are: 4 - 5.25 whereas the aggregate records Philly has played on the road are: 5.2 - 3.6. So clearly Philly has had a stronger strength of schedule in comparison.
Philly's points per game on the road:
Scored: 23.6
Gave up: 24.4
4 out of 5 games were within a TD
Seattle's points per game at home:
Scored: 26.5
Gave up: 19.25
3 out of 4 games were within a TD
the 4th being a blowout against the 1-8 49er's
So if we take out the anomaly of the 49er's game, you get a point per game scored for Seattle at home of: 23
and point per game gave up of: 19.7
compared to Philly's points on the road we now have:
philly points: (23.6 + 19.7) / 2 = 21.65
seattle points: (23 + 24.4) / 2 = 23.7
for a difference of seattle +2.05 but the line is Philly getting +6 for almost a 4 point edge going to Philly.
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Quote Originally Posted by Nycgags:
Philly is my strongest lean of the week, check my thread for more detail.
While Seattle is 4-0 at home and Philly is 1-4 on the road. The aggregate records Seattle has played at home are: 4 - 5.25 whereas the aggregate records Philly has played on the road are: 5.2 - 3.6. So clearly Philly has had a stronger strength of schedule in comparison.
Philly's points per game on the road:
Scored: 23.6
Gave up: 24.4
4 out of 5 games were within a TD
Seattle's points per game at home:
Scored: 26.5
Gave up: 19.25
3 out of 4 games were within a TD
the 4th being a blowout against the 1-8 49er's
So if we take out the anomaly of the 49er's game, you get a point per game scored for Seattle at home of: 23
and point per game gave up of: 19.7
compared to Philly's points on the road we now have:
philly points: (23.6 + 19.7) / 2 = 21.65
seattle points: (23 + 24.4) / 2 = 23.7
for a difference of seattle +2.05 but the line is Philly getting +6 for almost a 4 point edge going to Philly.
Since "Vegas" gave SEA that win against NE (lots of PI and holding calls that weren't called) the refs won't make a lot of calls on Philly. Lots of bets pouring in on SEA and one line was @ 4.5. Now, it,s 7 and if the picks for SEA stay over 60%, Vegas will clean up when Philly wins this game.
If it doesn't happen with this game it will happen with the favorite that has the best ATS/SU with the most wins and a lot of wagers. Maybe Dallas?
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Since "Vegas" gave SEA that win against NE (lots of PI and holding calls that weren't called) the refs won't make a lot of calls on Philly. Lots of bets pouring in on SEA and one line was @ 4.5. Now, it,s 7 and if the picks for SEA stay over 60%, Vegas will clean up when Philly wins this game.
If it doesn't happen with this game it will happen with the favorite that has the best ATS/SU with the most wins and a lot of wagers. Maybe Dallas?
Solid thread. Wentz makes me nervous on the road(cross county) in one of the toughest venues to get a win. If he gets loose with his throws the hawks will feast and turn them into points. I'm still mulling this game over.
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Solid thread. Wentz makes me nervous on the road(cross county) in one of the toughest venues to get a win. If he gets loose with his throws the hawks will feast and turn them into points. I'm still mulling this game over.
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