Well, I will emphasize,again, after further review under the hood with the System referee (lol) don't bet on either team. if u have to choose one, go Falcons but too close to call in my system. It's odd how my instinct are often 360 degrees off from the analysis. and that my friends is,why, I trust the hard work that went into building the system, not myelf!
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Well, I will emphasize,again, after further review under the hood with the System referee (lol) don't bet on either team. if u have to choose one, go Falcons but too close to call in my system. It's odd how my instinct are often 360 degrees off from the analysis. and that my friends is,why, I trust the hard work that went into building the system, not myelf!
Sorry Captain. its about the discussion, i guess, which hopefully leads us to better places than,just telling someone what to do. i sincerely thought the chiefs,were much better, but the consensus and my system which could not be,used until i had my line today suggests otherwise. Better late than never :-)) ... and thru discussion we learn, not blind obedience
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Sorry Captain. its about the discussion, i guess, which hopefully leads us to better places than,just telling someone what to do. i sincerely thought the chiefs,were much better, but the consensus and my system which could not be,used until i had my line today suggests otherwise. Better late than never :-)) ... and thru discussion we learn, not blind obedience
Sorry Captain. its about the discussion, i guess, which hopefully leads us to better places than,just telling someone what to do. i sincerely thought the chiefs,were much better, but the consensus and my system which could not be,used until i had my line today suggests otherwise. Better late than never :-)) ... and thru discussion we learn, not blind obedience
Football: No harm no foul on starting the thread, and as Suuma said, for me it's ALWAYS about the discussion. I started a thread to see if anyone could convince me that my Chiefs aren't gonna have a tough time with the Falcons this weekend. More than happy to 'listen" (in writing) but so far no one has....
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Quote Originally Posted by footballsmart:
Sorry Captain. its about the discussion, i guess, which hopefully leads us to better places than,just telling someone what to do. i sincerely thought the chiefs,were much better, but the consensus and my system which could not be,used until i had my line today suggests otherwise. Better late than never :-)) ... and thru discussion we learn, not blind obedience
Football: No harm no foul on starting the thread, and as Suuma said, for me it's ALWAYS about the discussion. I started a thread to see if anyone could convince me that my Chiefs aren't gonna have a tough time with the Falcons this weekend. More than happy to 'listen" (in writing) but so far no one has....
Teams off an overtime away dog win have been 15-12 against the spread playing as an away dog the next week.
If that team (the Chiefs) is playing a non-division game as an away dog the record has been 12-4 against the spread.
If the previous win in overtime as an away dog was against a division rival, the record in their next game has been 4-3 against the spread and 4-3 straight up as an away dog versus a non-divisional opponent and 5-2 OVER. And one of those ATS losses was by 3 points as a 1.5 dog.
Past history has not shown that this has been a let-down spot for the Chiefs.
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Teams off an overtime away dog win have been 15-12 against the spread playing as an away dog the next week.
If that team (the Chiefs) is playing a non-division game as an away dog the record has been 12-4 against the spread.
If the previous win in overtime as an away dog was against a division rival, the record in their next game has been 4-3 against the spread and 4-3 straight up as an away dog versus a non-divisional opponent and 5-2 OVER. And one of those ATS losses was by 3 points as a 1.5 dog.
Past history has not shown that this has been a let-down spot for the Chiefs.
Yes, love all this discussion and how the wisdom of convention and great insight (e.g., Suuma talking about how the Chiefs are in the worst possible spot going to Atlanta) often collides,with recent trends (last post). What this all,highlights,is one thing that is obvious: betting against a spread is one of the hardest things to do on the planet! and so in a,way, this forum is like a,support group for golfers trying to lower their handicap one mere, stroke!,its,just damn,hard!! while i think discussion and different angles do increase our ability go be accurate, because,it reveals,more information, and I love the discussions and feel it contributes to great learning as games approach and also,in our overall model,building on understanding of this challenge, I will add that there is,a,reason I am so relentless about my systems approach. while my,input is just one of many,angles, it has the enormous advantage of being based on trends over 8000+ games,rather than,10-25 games,or less that is,often expressed,as,wisdom. by the,way, i hate how my andoid produces commas that i did not type!!! anyway, my frends on over 8000+,games reveal much greater truths or more,sound,statistical realities,than what can possibly be re ealed in only 10, 100 or even 1000 games. i dont have all the answers, and the,most ideal handicapping probably combines,a,solid,system,with correct logic and k owledve of recent team status,,but if i had to rely on one thing alone, i think a system based on nesrly 10,000 games,would win habnds down but if brady,goes out, for example, my system cannot easily adapt to that ... But to continues to show,how,good my system is I will keep posting regardless of transitory injury status or other factors that might lower my success percentage, but increase the validity of what I am showing.
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Yes, love all this discussion and how the wisdom of convention and great insight (e.g., Suuma talking about how the Chiefs are in the worst possible spot going to Atlanta) often collides,with recent trends (last post). What this all,highlights,is one thing that is obvious: betting against a spread is one of the hardest things to do on the planet! and so in a,way, this forum is like a,support group for golfers trying to lower their handicap one mere, stroke!,its,just damn,hard!! while i think discussion and different angles do increase our ability go be accurate, because,it reveals,more information, and I love the discussions and feel it contributes to great learning as games approach and also,in our overall model,building on understanding of this challenge, I will add that there is,a,reason I am so relentless about my systems approach. while my,input is just one of many,angles, it has the enormous advantage of being based on trends over 8000+ games,rather than,10-25 games,or less that is,often expressed,as,wisdom. by the,way, i hate how my andoid produces commas that i did not type!!! anyway, my frends on over 8000+,games reveal much greater truths or more,sound,statistical realities,than what can possibly be re ealed in only 10, 100 or even 1000 games. i dont have all the answers, and the,most ideal handicapping probably combines,a,solid,system,with correct logic and k owledve of recent team status,,but if i had to rely on one thing alone, i think a system based on nesrly 10,000 games,would win habnds down but if brady,goes out, for example, my system cannot easily adapt to that ... But to continues to show,how,good my system is I will keep posting regardless of transitory injury status or other factors that might lower my success percentage, but increase the validity of what I am showing.
Goodness my spelling was atrocious in that last post. Believe it or not, I typed most of it correctly but my Android Note 7 that blows up is also notorious for placing commas where you do not place them, and for messing up spelling. Has there ever been a more horrible product in history? Hopefully the Edge 7 that I am replacing this with is better. Anyway, with all the statistical wisdom we have in 2016 it only makes sense to base my picks on a rigorous system solidly grounded in almost 10,000 past games. It is far from perfect, but so far so good (55-44-1) after 100 games and so I will continue to plod along. As this Super Contest winds down, however, I am going to give my picks after everybody else does as I am not too much into giving away my hard work to competitors ... but anyone who wants to go to the window on Saturday or Sunday morning will still have my top 5 picks just by tuning it and this fascinating study of how well this system really is will continue week to week and year to year.
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Goodness my spelling was atrocious in that last post. Believe it or not, I typed most of it correctly but my Android Note 7 that blows up is also notorious for placing commas where you do not place them, and for messing up spelling. Has there ever been a more horrible product in history? Hopefully the Edge 7 that I am replacing this with is better. Anyway, with all the statistical wisdom we have in 2016 it only makes sense to base my picks on a rigorous system solidly grounded in almost 10,000 past games. It is far from perfect, but so far so good (55-44-1) after 100 games and so I will continue to plod along. As this Super Contest winds down, however, I am going to give my picks after everybody else does as I am not too much into giving away my hard work to competitors ... but anyone who wants to go to the window on Saturday or Sunday morning will still have my top 5 picks just by tuning it and this fascinating study of how well this system really is will continue week to week and year to year.
According to football reference Falcons played the toughest schedule in league at +2.3, Chiefs .1 , a 2.2 diff.
Chiefs are 5-2 in 1 score close wins, Falcons 3-3. Random events are close wins and that is the only reason Chiefs have the better record, randomness.
Falcons darwf Chiefs in every major indicator, they are not just better but better by huge amounts. Except yards per point which favors the Chiefs by a large amount.
VS Denver Chiefs were not just beaten badly but destoried in the major indicators, lost QBPR by 45 points,. lost the ave per pass by almost 5 yards per pass, if you looked back at past 50 years of games one could count on one hand the number of times a team won being out-play so badly in those indicators.
In other words more random big time luck for Chiefs.
According to my PR which measure such things Denver should of won that game by 18.39 points, that's how badly Chiefs were out-played by Broncos.
That 21.39 diff to actual score is the largest amount by far of any game this season, in other words more big time random luck for Chiefs.
Now we add in a OT game for Chiefs, coming off a huge divisional very meaningful game and a huge divisional very meaning full game on Deck VS the disivision leader and this game sandwhich in-between those 2 games VS a NFC opponent which does not play into tie-breakers and not nearly the same meaningful game.
Falcons have out-rushed opp by 100 yards on the year while Chiefs have been out-rushed by 270 yards on year.
Don't see how anyone could like KC in this game.
Chiefs are 9-2 in their last 11 RS road games. Thats not luck/random. KC are never going to be accused of looking flashy but they just continue to win and winning on the road const. is very hard and the chiefs are 1 of those rare birds that are doing it and are very confident away from home. To say that you cannot see how ANYONE could like KC in this game is nothing short of amazing/laughable. High scoring game --very close---KCs old habits continue.
KC 37 ATL 34 OT final
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Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:
According to football reference Falcons played the toughest schedule in league at +2.3, Chiefs .1 , a 2.2 diff.
Chiefs are 5-2 in 1 score close wins, Falcons 3-3. Random events are close wins and that is the only reason Chiefs have the better record, randomness.
Falcons darwf Chiefs in every major indicator, they are not just better but better by huge amounts. Except yards per point which favors the Chiefs by a large amount.
VS Denver Chiefs were not just beaten badly but destoried in the major indicators, lost QBPR by 45 points,. lost the ave per pass by almost 5 yards per pass, if you looked back at past 50 years of games one could count on one hand the number of times a team won being out-play so badly in those indicators.
In other words more random big time luck for Chiefs.
According to my PR which measure such things Denver should of won that game by 18.39 points, that's how badly Chiefs were out-played by Broncos.
That 21.39 diff to actual score is the largest amount by far of any game this season, in other words more big time random luck for Chiefs.
Now we add in a OT game for Chiefs, coming off a huge divisional very meaningful game and a huge divisional very meaning full game on Deck VS the disivision leader and this game sandwhich in-between those 2 games VS a NFC opponent which does not play into tie-breakers and not nearly the same meaningful game.
Falcons have out-rushed opp by 100 yards on the year while Chiefs have been out-rushed by 270 yards on year.
Don't see how anyone could like KC in this game.
Chiefs are 9-2 in their last 11 RS road games. Thats not luck/random. KC are never going to be accused of looking flashy but they just continue to win and winning on the road const. is very hard and the chiefs are 1 of those rare birds that are doing it and are very confident away from home. To say that you cannot see how ANYONE could like KC in this game is nothing short of amazing/laughable. High scoring game --very close---KCs old habits continue.
Chiefs are 9-2 in their last 11 RS road games. Thats not luck/random. KC are never going to be accused of looking flashy but they just continue to win and winning on the road const. is very hard and the chiefs are 1 of those rare birds that are doing it and are very confident away from home. To say that you cannot see how ANYONE could like KC in this game is nothing short of amazing/laughable. High scoring game --very close---KCs old habits continue.
KC 37 ATL 34 OT final
I agree that people are obviously betting on the Chiefs as the line opened at -3.5 and hasn't moved. I will be at the game and would LOVE for you to be right although predicting a back to back overtime game for the Chiefs could be a little "laughable" in itself.
I am not saying that anything is incorrect about the stats you post of the Chiefs being an outstanding road team, anytime you've won 19-23 games that is certainly the case. What I am saying is that Atlanta is catching us in a perfect storm. We are so beat up that we made the Tampa Bay offensive line look like world beaters 2 weeks ago even with Justin Houston back (and yes he figured to be rusty but was no factor in that game with Dee Ford injured and out on the other side). We're beat up and traveling again on a short week not to mention a HUGE look ahead game to the Raiders on Thursday night. I would be happily stunned if we don't wear down in this game in the 2nd half.....
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Quote Originally Posted by keven vanlith:
Chiefs are 9-2 in their last 11 RS road games. Thats not luck/random. KC are never going to be accused of looking flashy but they just continue to win and winning on the road const. is very hard and the chiefs are 1 of those rare birds that are doing it and are very confident away from home. To say that you cannot see how ANYONE could like KC in this game is nothing short of amazing/laughable. High scoring game --very close---KCs old habits continue.
KC 37 ATL 34 OT final
I agree that people are obviously betting on the Chiefs as the line opened at -3.5 and hasn't moved. I will be at the game and would LOVE for you to be right although predicting a back to back overtime game for the Chiefs could be a little "laughable" in itself.
I am not saying that anything is incorrect about the stats you post of the Chiefs being an outstanding road team, anytime you've won 19-23 games that is certainly the case. What I am saying is that Atlanta is catching us in a perfect storm. We are so beat up that we made the Tampa Bay offensive line look like world beaters 2 weeks ago even with Justin Houston back (and yes he figured to be rusty but was no factor in that game with Dee Ford injured and out on the other side). We're beat up and traveling again on a short week not to mention a HUGE look ahead game to the Raiders on Thursday night. I would be happily stunned if we don't wear down in this game in the 2nd half.....
and the phugging Chiefs elimnated from from going to bowl lost s/u to Tampa bay LOL
GOOGLE the CURSE of Tampa Bay Bucs ...
In no way shape or form am I agreeing that the Chiefs are out of playoff contention. As I said earlier, even if they do fall to 8-4, they're 3-0 in the division and control their own destiny with big home games coming up with Oak and Den...
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Quote Originally Posted by bigamoose:
and the phugging Chiefs elimnated from from going to bowl lost s/u to Tampa bay LOL
GOOGLE the CURSE of Tampa Bay Bucs ...
In no way shape or form am I agreeing that the Chiefs are out of playoff contention. As I said earlier, even if they do fall to 8-4, they're 3-0 in the division and control their own destiny with big home games coming up with Oak and Den...
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