Keep in mind, Giants @ Zona was on National TV last Sunday...these 2 rilvary teams as I stated have split each season.
Your odds are better off with the homedawg +3.5 without having to put up money for the juice.
They did not plit in 2006. Giants swept them that year. And if you are going to look at past trends (which I put little weight on), I think that this trend trumps any trend out there:
" -NY GIANTS against the spread in Road games against conference opponents The record is 17 Wins and 2 Losses for the last three seasons-"
The reason why the Giants are so good on the road is that they have a very disciplined coach that can keep his players in check for big road games whether or not they are on national tv.
The Giants are an excellent road team, they have only lost 2 road game in the last 2 years, including playoffs and superbowl.
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Quote Originally Posted by texancapper:
Keep in mind, Giants @ Zona was on National TV last Sunday...these 2 rilvary teams as I stated have split each season.
Your odds are better off with the homedawg +3.5 without having to put up money for the juice.
They did not plit in 2006. Giants swept them that year. And if you are going to look at past trends (which I put little weight on), I think that this trend trumps any trend out there:
" -NY GIANTS against the spread in Road games against conference opponents The record is 17 Wins and 2 Losses for the last three seasons-"
The reason why the Giants are so good on the road is that they have a very disciplined coach that can keep his players in check for big road games whether or not they are on national tv.
The Giants are an excellent road team, they have only lost 2 road game in the last 2 years, including playoffs and superbowl.
prospect, i agree with you here i think the giants should be able to handle them here, disagree with the trend. see you put little weight into trends tho, as do i, most of them don't really tell you much for the game at hand. i see they are 17-2 in conference on the road but how many of those times have they actually been road favorites?
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prospect, i agree with you here i think the giants should be able to handle them here, disagree with the trend. see you put little weight into trends tho, as do i, most of them don't really tell you much for the game at hand. i see they are 17-2 in conference on the road but how many of those times have they actually been road favorites?
l love the Skins in this one. I'm going to wait to the last min and let the line go as high as possible before I lay down my bet.
The Giants are a better team and I dont' know if the Skins will win or not but I do know they have one hell of a D and will be able to keep this one close the entire game. They also split with the Giants last year but owned them both games and should have easily won both but a crazy 4th quater comeback by the Gmen sealed there fate. Giants did nothing aganist the skins in the 2nd half week one and the Redskins are a better team now. Take it to the bank.
In the end 20-19 Skins
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l love the Skins in this one. I'm going to wait to the last min and let the line go as high as possible before I lay down my bet.
The Giants are a better team and I dont' know if the Skins will win or not but I do know they have one hell of a D and will be able to keep this one close the entire game. They also split with the Giants last year but owned them both games and should have easily won both but a crazy 4th quater comeback by the Gmen sealed there fate. Giants did nothing aganist the skins in the 2nd half week one and the Redskins are a better team now. Take it to the bank.
prospect, i agree with you here i think the giants should be able to handle them here, disagree with the trend. see you put little weight into trends tho, as do i, most of them don't really tell you much for the game at hand. i see they are 17-2 in conference on the road but how many of those times have they actually been road favorites?
Ya, I was just throwing that trend out there for the "trend hookers" that love posting trends and playing off of trends.
However, the trend above does give you a little idea (weight) about how well they play on the road. And the Giants only having 2 loses in the last 2 years on the road (including playoffs and superbowl) just adds to the idea.
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Quote Originally Posted by landis1717:
prospect, i agree with you here i think the giants should be able to handle them here, disagree with the trend. see you put little weight into trends tho, as do i, most of them don't really tell you much for the game at hand. i see they are 17-2 in conference on the road but how many of those times have they actually been road favorites?
Ya, I was just throwing that trend out there for the "trend hookers" that love posting trends and playing off of trends.
However, the trend above does give you a little idea (weight) about how well they play on the road. And the Giants only having 2 loses in the last 2 years on the road (including playoffs and superbowl) just adds to the idea.
Giants are by far the better team, but my MONEY is on the Skins +3(+165) this week. Watch the Giants turn the ball over this week.
Other DOGS: bold face is a money line play.
Denver +7.5 (+280), St. Louis +8, K.C. +3 (+140), Pitt +1, N.O. +3.5 and even the LIONS +11. The Titans might have a sleepy let down after lasts weeks loss and have some inner rumblings with RB White and this is the Lions nationally televised Super Bowl. The Lions +11 (+500) aren't going to cover a game at home????? Yep, I know they stink, but his is their showcase event right here! I like the Lions!
Watch out for HOME DOGS this week!
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Giants are by far the better team, but my MONEY is on the Skins +3(+165) this week. Watch the Giants turn the ball over this week.
Other DOGS: bold face is a money line play.
Denver +7.5 (+280), St. Louis +8, K.C. +3 (+140), Pitt +1, N.O. +3.5 and even the LIONS +11. The Titans might have a sleepy let down after lasts weeks loss and have some inner rumblings with RB White and this is the Lions nationally televised Super Bowl. The Lions +11 (+500) aren't going to cover a game at home????? Yep, I know they stink, but his is their showcase event right here! I like the Lions!
Giants aren't the same team they were in week 1 either.
The Lions play this game every year and don't cover all that often. I forget the stats but they are around in other threads. But as far as your concerned this year that they really really suck they will pretend the game matters. Like its their superbowl. Come on now
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Giants aren't the same team they were in week 1 either.
The Lions play this game every year and don't cover all that often. I forget the stats but they are around in other threads. But as far as your concerned this year that they really really suck they will pretend the game matters. Like its their superbowl. Come on now
They did not plit in 2006. Giants swept them that year. And if you are going to look at past trends (which I put little weight on), I think that this trend trumps any trend out there:
" -NY GIANTS against the spread in Road games against conference opponents The record is 17 Wins and 2 Losses for the last three seasons-"
The reason why the Giants are so good on the road is that they have a very disciplined coach that can keep his players in check for big road games whether or not they are on national tv.
The Giants are an excellent road team, they have only lost 2 road game in the last 2 years, including playoffs and superbowl.
Ok, so not in 06...but both seem to take care of each other at HOME and homefield is important in a rivalry matchup..that includes Giants/Cowboys also.
We all know what the Giants did on the road going back to LY, they are playing lights out. I understand your angle, you don't want to fade the Giants.....in matter of fact, I have won more games with them than I have lost going back to LY when Giants had to beat TB on the road to the SB. I am not touching this game as I am offering input, but I feel Skins could of wipe the floor with the Hawks jersey last week if they wanted to....I am sure the Skins have this game circle on their schedule. I think this is going to be a very close game and if the Giants was to lose another game this season, it would be against the Skins or Cowboys. Those are the only 2 teams that could beat them this season base on their schedule. BOL
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Quote Originally Posted by talent888:
They did not plit in 2006. Giants swept them that year. And if you are going to look at past trends (which I put little weight on), I think that this trend trumps any trend out there:
" -NY GIANTS against the spread in Road games against conference opponents The record is 17 Wins and 2 Losses for the last three seasons-"
The reason why the Giants are so good on the road is that they have a very disciplined coach that can keep his players in check for big road games whether or not they are on national tv.
The Giants are an excellent road team, they have only lost 2 road game in the last 2 years, including playoffs and superbowl.
Ok, so not in 06...but both seem to take care of each other at HOME and homefield is important in a rivalry matchup..that includes Giants/Cowboys also.
We all know what the Giants did on the road going back to LY, they are playing lights out. I understand your angle, you don't want to fade the Giants.....in matter of fact, I have won more games with them than I have lost going back to LY when Giants had to beat TB on the road to the SB. I am not touching this game as I am offering input, but I feel Skins could of wipe the floor with the Hawks jersey last week if they wanted to....I am sure the Skins have this game circle on their schedule. I think this is going to be a very close game and if the Giants was to lose another game this season, it would be against the Skins or Cowboys. Those are the only 2 teams that could beat them this season base on their schedule. BOL
Ok, so not in 06...but both seem to take care of each other at HOME and homefield is important in a rivalry matchup..that includes Giants/Cowboys also.
Actually, the Giants have won the last two years going into Washington....However, I do appreciate your input. Information is powerful and I look at everything...
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Quote Originally Posted by texancapper:
Ok, so not in 06...but both seem to take care of each other at HOME and homefield is important in a rivalry matchup..that includes Giants/Cowboys also.
Actually, the Giants have won the last two years going into Washington....However, I do appreciate your input. Information is powerful and I look at everything...
"Oh ya, the way you have been picking, you might want to tail me on this one...."
"Well, fortunetely for me and my bank account, I do not put too much on if a line "looks to good to be true" or how much of the public is on a certain side. I'm too much of a good capper for that."
I mean come on dude, tone it down a bit. If you are so good, why don't you go to Vegas and quit your job? The funny thing about Covers is that you can make fun of others, but I'm sure me calling you out will put me in the box.
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"Oh ya, the way you have been picking, you might want to tail me on this one...."
"Well, fortunetely for me and my bank account, I do not put too much on if a line "looks to good to be true" or how much of the public is on a certain side. I'm too much of a good capper for that."
I mean come on dude, tone it down a bit. If you are so good, why don't you go to Vegas and quit your job? The funny thing about Covers is that you can make fun of others, but I'm sure me calling you out will put me in the box.
Ya, I was just throwing that trend out there for the "trend hookers" that love posting trends and playing off of trends.
However, the trend above does give you a little idea (weight) about how well they play on the road. And the Giants only having 2 loses in the last 2 years on the road (including playoffs and superbowl) just adds to the idea.
First let me say as always your handicapping is great. I tail your picks but I must point out the following:
I have been watching a trend for 12 years (i dont have infor prior to that) how many times can an NFL team cover the spread consecutively in a season. And what are the probablities. Cover three in a row has a 50% chance of covering the 4th game. 4 cover in a row 40% chance of covering the 5th. Covered 5 times in a row has a 20% chance of covering. Covered six times in a row 10% chance and never had there been a time where a team covered the 7th in a row til this year until Tenn this year. They failed to cover a week later. Now the Giants are going for their 7th in a row they have a chance to cover but its extremely small.
I have been a Giants fan since the early 70's but my money is on the skins +4.5.
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Quote Originally Posted by talent888:
Ya, I was just throwing that trend out there for the "trend hookers" that love posting trends and playing off of trends.
However, the trend above does give you a little idea (weight) about how well they play on the road. And the Giants only having 2 loses in the last 2 years on the road (including playoffs and superbowl) just adds to the idea.
First let me say as always your handicapping is great. I tail your picks but I must point out the following:
I have been watching a trend for 12 years (i dont have infor prior to that) how many times can an NFL team cover the spread consecutively in a season. And what are the probablities. Cover three in a row has a 50% chance of covering the 4th game. 4 cover in a row 40% chance of covering the 5th. Covered 5 times in a row has a 20% chance of covering. Covered six times in a row 10% chance and never had there been a time where a team covered the 7th in a row til this year until Tenn this year. They failed to cover a week later. Now the Giants are going for their 7th in a row they have a chance to cover but its extremely small.
I have been a Giants fan since the early 70's but my money is on the skins +4.5.
First let me say as always your handicapping is great. I tail your picks but I must point out the following:
I have been watching a trend for 12 years (i dont have infor prior to that) how many times can an NFL team cover the spread consecutively in a season. And what are the probablities. Cover three in a row has a 50% chance of covering the 4th game. 4 cover in a row 40% chance of covering the 5th. Covered 5 times in a row has a 20% chance of covering. Covered six times in a row 10% chance and never had there been a time where a team covered the 7th in a row til this year until Tenn this year. They failed to cover a week later. Now the Giants are going for their 7th in a row they have a chance to cover but its extremely small.
I have been a Giants fan since the early 70's but my money is on the skins +4.5.
Q
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First let me say as always your handicapping is great. I tail your picks but I must point out the following:
I have been watching a trend for 12 years (i dont have infor prior to that) how many times can an NFL team cover the spread consecutively in a season. And what are the probablities. Cover three in a row has a 50% chance of covering the 4th game. 4 cover in a row 40% chance of covering the 5th. Covered 5 times in a row has a 20% chance of covering. Covered six times in a row 10% chance and never had there been a time where a team covered the 7th in a row til this year until Tenn this year. They failed to cover a week later. Now the Giants are going for their 7th in a row they have a chance to cover but its extremely small.
I have been a Giants fan since the early 70's but my money is on the skins +4.5.
"Oh ya, the way you have been picking, you might want to tail me on this one...."
"Well, fortunetely for me and my bank account, I do not put too much on if a line "looks to good to be true" or how much of the public is on a certain side. I'm too much of a good capper for that."
I mean come on dude, tone it down a bit. If you are so good, why don't you go to Vegas and quit your job? The funny thing about Covers is that you can make fun of others, but I'm sure me calling you out will put me in the box.
Tone it down? Um, where was my tone. This is all fun for me. It seems that you are the only one that is getting huffy puffy. All I'm doing is replying to comments made here...
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Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Insight:
"Oh ya, the way you have been picking, you might want to tail me on this one...."
"Well, fortunetely for me and my bank account, I do not put too much on if a line "looks to good to be true" or how much of the public is on a certain side. I'm too much of a good capper for that."
I mean come on dude, tone it down a bit. If you are so good, why don't you go to Vegas and quit your job? The funny thing about Covers is that you can make fun of others, but I'm sure me calling you out will put me in the box.
Tone it down? Um, where was my tone. This is all fun for me. It seems that you are the only one that is getting huffy puffy. All I'm doing is replying to comments made here...
Die hard Giants fan here that hasn't missed a play in over 15 years +. And this line stinks like a big rotten fish.
Portis is all banged up and Washington has been playing like total crap as of late....while the Giants have been steamrolling teams as of late and scoring over 30 points their last 4 games.
But the line is only 3. Hmmmmmm.....even a devoted Giants fan like me sees absolutely no reason why the Giants shouldn't roll here but they won't. Redskins NEED this win like no other since Dallas won big on Turkey Day if they want to stay in the lead of the wildcard race.
Bottom line...Giants are spread covering machines this year...but this one's scary to the typical Giants fan. This line should be at least a TD.
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Die hard Giants fan here that hasn't missed a play in over 15 years +. And this line stinks like a big rotten fish.
Portis is all banged up and Washington has been playing like total crap as of late....while the Giants have been steamrolling teams as of late and scoring over 30 points their last 4 games.
But the line is only 3. Hmmmmmm.....even a devoted Giants fan like me sees absolutely no reason why the Giants shouldn't roll here but they won't. Redskins NEED this win like no other since Dallas won big on Turkey Day if they want to stay in the lead of the wildcard race.
Bottom line...Giants are spread covering machines this year...but this one's scary to the typical Giants fan. This line should be at least a TD.
Love the play but didn't agree with your write up. Warner and co put up their numbers against this giants team. The defense wasn't good enough to stop them. However, the Giants Offense is/was much more efficient than Arizonas.
On to this week's game. I think we have the makings of a low scoring(at least from the offenses) football game. THe first game was 16-7, and that was with a big P.I call that got the Giants their only touchdown. The Giants will be able to run the ball. Points will be at a premium(at least from the offenses). The Redskins are going to have minimum success against this Giants defense. They can't score against an above average defense. The track record of this offense speaks for itself. Near the top of the league in points allowed and near the bottom in points scored.
The Giants will get it done when the game is on the line. 17-6 or 17-10 or something like that.
gl everyone
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Love the play but didn't agree with your write up. Warner and co put up their numbers against this giants team. The defense wasn't good enough to stop them. However, the Giants Offense is/was much more efficient than Arizonas.
On to this week's game. I think we have the makings of a low scoring(at least from the offenses) football game. THe first game was 16-7, and that was with a big P.I call that got the Giants their only touchdown. The Giants will be able to run the ball. Points will be at a premium(at least from the offenses). The Redskins are going to have minimum success against this Giants defense. They can't score against an above average defense. The track record of this offense speaks for itself. Near the top of the league in points allowed and near the bottom in points scored.
The Giants will get it done when the game is on the line. 17-6 or 17-10 or something like that.
Talent, I am with you all the way on this one. This line is SOFT. The giants dominate the line of scrimmage and run the football. They are the best team in the NFL and will win easily. I like taking the hook for insurance as well.
For winning picks everyone check out my new thread, picks come out Friday night.
Talent, I am with you all the way on this one. This line is SOFT. The giants dominate the line of scrimmage and run the football. They are the best team in the NFL and will win easily. I like taking the hook for insurance as well.
For winning picks everyone check out my new thread, picks come out Friday night.
I posted a thread on what is going on prior to this game at the Skins stadium which will make this the most emotional game of the year for Washington players, caoches, and fans. I'm not touching this one.
I posted a thread on what is going on prior to this game at the Skins stadium which will make this the most emotional game of the year for Washington players, caoches, and fans. I'm not touching this one.
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