You can talk stuff about Tim Tebow but all that matters is the (W) in the win/loss column. "Statts" are highly overrated and the all Bookies care about is if you won or lost the game.
Don't hate the player hate the game! I'll take my money any day from the Bookie if he wins for me and I don't care how it's done.
Jim Kelley from the back in the day Buffalo Bills had excellant statts but no SUPERBOWL ring to show for it.
If his name wasn't Tim Tebow...he wouldn't have a chance in the NFL. What QB can play 95% of horrid football and still play in the NFL?
Face a good team, one that isn't from a "west" division not named the 49ers, and see where that gets you. Maybe facing an NFC team would open some eyes.
My oh my to you my friends.
We are all aware that we only have a SMALL SAMPLE SIZE.
However, I have proven in this thread beyond a shadow of a doubt that in the small sample size we have, the Broncos Defense plays much better BECAUSE of Tim Tebow
Don't get me wrong, the Denver defense is playing really solid right now, but this is why they play better because of Tebow
1 - He doesn't turn the ball over. This makes opposing defenses drive the length of the field which is not an easy thing to do in the NFL.
2 - Running the ball on offense chews up a lot of clock and allows the defense to stay on the sidelines and rest.
3 - He motivates everyone around him to play their best. Everyone in the Broncos locker room talks about how fired up they get to see a man so determined to win.
You may overlook all 3 of these factors, but the stats don't lie. Some of it may be that the Broncos D got alittle healthier, some if not most is because of the reasons I list above.
Look at the # of points Denver D allowed in Ortons starts and then look at Tebows starts. Heres a quick stat for you.
The Denver D has allowed 23 points in 2 quarters with Orton
The Denver D has allowed 19 points in 7 quarters with Tebow.
I know its a small sample size, but STATS DON'T LIE
It's a shame because it seems like you took a long time to write this. But I don't respond to "ALL CAPS" posts. 
And how many of those offenses are offenses that can score at a consistant pace? Face a team with a good offense who can score and KEEP scoring on him and he's got no chance.
I'm arguing with a lot of people in this thread. None are even stupid enough to say that Tebow is a "great football player".
You, on the other hand, are the one who is "lost in space".
It's also ironic that the defense started getting healthy once Tebow became QB.
You keep saying that. But by that theory, the defense wasn't healthy until the 2nd half of the Chargers game when Tebow became starter.
Hmm sounds like that conveniantly fits your point of view.
I certainly can't take this seriously anymore because I can't win this arguement till the season is over and on to next year.
I've made my point and there's nothing else I can say that isn't repeating myself.
So it looks like I'll either be "admitting that I'm wrong" in the future or coming back to laugh at Tebow's Cult.
We shall see. It was fun to talk this subject to all of you though.
Fair enough Sparky, but if this thread ended today.
earthWake was the far and away winner.
That's the problem here. I CAN'T WIN until at last after the season.
It's like I have a season-long prop bet in. I can say whatever I want...but until the season is over...my "bet is still pending".
No...I did read it. But it's already an issue I addressed. It's hard to lead categories for any position if you miss time and start the season hurt. Like I said earlier that Williams and Dumervil have missed time and played hurt. You really think the best guy the Broncos have on defense is Wesley Woodyard? He's solid but he's also played every game.
And yes...the Giants got smoked. And I addressed that too in earlier posts. I never got caught up in the Giants great start the past 2 years because I saw who was looming on the schedule. And if you want to stay on topic...if Tebow had to face the Patriots, 49ers, Saints, Packers and Cowboys (twice) the rest of the way...Tebow would be exposed in those games. He'd be lucky to win 1.
And this is why there is no point for me to really comment on everyone's response anymore because, throughout 13 pages, I've addressed just about everything that could possibly be asked multiple times.
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