Hey Guys...Tim Tebow Still Sucks

WOW long thread... I don't have time to read it all so I'm sorry if this has been stated already.

The FACT is that Tebow has had comparable, or better stats than John Elway in his first 5-6 games, and Tebow has won more games than John Elway from this point of his career.

We all know that Elway turned out to be a phenominal HOF QB.  the fact is that Elway himself was a horrible passer when starting out.  He had a big build, he was strong and could run hard like the wind mowing over linebackers.  Sound like somebody we know??

Boom or bust, let the guy play and let's watch and see what happens.  At the very least its great entertainment.

Elway only lacked experience when he was a rookie,was a great QB in HS at Granda Hills and in college at Stanford...

Give Tebow credit,he's a winner,competitive like nobody else..

But throwing a football theirs no comparison between them at all...None...

Shrimp - like I said before, I will say it again... Look up the passing stats of Elway in his first year.  Then compare to Tebow.

We all know that Tebow now is very unpolished.  You will find that Elway was actually a bit rougher when he started.

So Denver is 1-4 without Tebow starting and 5-1 with Tebow starting but those wins had nothing to do with Tebow?

It was all just a big coincidence?

The facts speak for themselves.

In their first 8 career starts:

Team W-L:

Elway = 3-5  Tebow = 5-3

Passing Yards:

Elway = 1,041  Tebow = 1,281

TD-Int:

Elway = 3-10  Tebow = 10-4

Rushing Yards:

Elway = 92  Tebow = 550

Rushing TD:

Elway = 1  Tebow = 5

No one is saying Tebow is or will be better than Elway.  It’s just amusing how “the worst QB” in Denver history has done better in his first 8 starts than the best QB in Denver history.

They both are/were Denver QBs and one of them is publicly bashing the other one’s numbers despite that fact that he had much worst numbers during the same period.

It’s a completely valid comparison.

You are right he was a winner in high school and college, just like

Chris Leak

Jamarcus Russell

John Parker Wilson

Cam Newton

Tebow has been a winner, I was just pointing out that it is still too early to call him a winner at the NFL level. I just think he will have to play better for Denver to continue to win.

Many people have said it does not matter what his stats are as long as they win, which is true. I was just pointing out other QB's that have won in the begining, but did not turn out to be winners long term.

According to the haters, the defense wasn't healthy when Orton was starting.

But ofcourse in the game where tebow took over at halftime (against the Chargers) They were completly healthy. Dumerville, Miller, Williams were all on defense, and Mcgahe was healthy on offense.

The Broncos were losing 23-10 at halftime that game.

So by that rationale, the Broncos defense didn't get healthy until the 2nd half of that game where their defense allowed 6 points in the 2nd half.

How conveniant for the Tebow Haters

check that again

People who are bringing up how bad guys like Peyton Manning and John Elway were in the begining, are making the point that it is too early to tell if someone is a winner after that many games.

There are others also that started off losing like Terry Bradshaw, Joe Montana, Steve Young, Troy Aikman.

matt4000