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    how it's CLEAR that game wasnt fixed

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    mariner24
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2012 - 1:59 PM ET #1

    if the refs really had the fix in, they would have not gave rodgers that 1st and goal on the 1 yard line. Because GB would have had to kick the field goal and would have probably won 9-7 with the seahwaks still covering.

    That play would have been so easy to uphold because it was called short on the field. So they needed indisputable evidence to give them a 1st down.

    You cant fix a game on a last minute hail mary dual possesion catch. There were a ton of bad calls on BOTH sides of the ball all game.

    That td catch didnt cost GB the game. GB's playcalling and refusal to run the ball in the 1st half cost GB the game.

     

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    if the refs really had the fix in, they would have not gave rodgers that 1st and goal on the 1 yard line. Because GB would have had to kick the field goal and would have probably won 9-7 with the seahwaks still covering.

    That play would have been so easy to uphold because it was called short on the field. So they needed indisputable evidence to give them a 1st down.

    You cant fix a game on a last minute hail mary dual possesion catch. There were a ton of bad calls on BOTH sides of the ball all game.

    That td catch didnt cost GB the game. GB's playcalling and refusal to run the ball in the 1st half cost GB the game.

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2012 - 2:00 PM ET #2

    EXACTLY!!!
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    EXACTLY!!!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2012 - 2:01 PM ET #3

    totally agree
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    totally agree
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2012 - 2:07 PM ET #4

    There was plenty of time even if gb scored. You don't think the refs knew that? Lol come on man
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    There was plenty of time even if gb scored. You don't think the refs knew that? Lol come on man
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2012 - 2:10 PM ET #5

    Oh ok Igetmoney.  What wouldve happened if the ball hit the ground??  Common dont be a fucking idiot.  If there was a fix you dont wait on a hail mary with no time left.  LMAO!!! Why do you bet if its fixed???
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    Oh ok Igetmoney.  What wouldve happened if the ball hit the ground??  Common dont be a fucking idiot.  If there was a fix you dont wait on a hail mary with no time left.  LMAO!!! Why do you bet if its fixed???
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2012 - 2:13 PM ET #6

    I'll tell you exactly what would have happened if the ball hit the ground. The refs would have called roughing the passer vs Matthews
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    I'll tell you exactly what would have happened if the ball hit the ground. The refs would have called roughing the passer vs Matthews
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2012 - 2:16 PM ET #7

    I know its fixed I just hope I'm on the right
    side. Oh well shit happens glad I didn't go large on the game. Live to fight another day.
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    I know its fixed I just hope I'm on the right
    side. Oh well shit happens glad I didn't go large on the game. Live to fight another day.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2012 - 2:18 PM ET #8

    What about that interception by Wilson then get called back for roughing the passer when clearly there no foul . The officiating was horrid last night. 
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    What about that interception by Wilson then get called back for roughing the passer when clearly there no foul . The officiating was horrid last night. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2012 - 2:19 PM ET #9

    Even if packers kick a field goal and be up by 2 that interception packers would have scored again and sealed it 
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    Even if packers kick a field goal and be up by 2 that interception packers would have scored again and sealed it 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2012 - 2:24 PM ET #10

    the conspiracy theory is alive and well. All these games are fixed, we just have to figure out whose side the refs are on

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    the conspiracy theory is alive and well. All these games are fixed, we just have to figure out whose side the refs are on

     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2012 - 2:25 PM ET #11

    they could have reversed the call, but with that much money on the line nothing is getting reversed ... packers will recover and be fine, but if they reversed the call the books wouldnt be fine get me?
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    they could have reversed the call, but with that much money on the line nothing is getting reversed ... packers will recover and be fine, but if they reversed the call the books wouldnt be fine get me?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2012 - 2:28 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by badgerboy:

    the conspiracy theory is alive and well. All these games are fixed, we just have to figure out whose side the refs are on

       If i knew 85 % of the money was on green bay.... i wouldnt bet on them if they were playing a small college team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by badgerboy:

    the conspiracy theory is alive and well. All these games are fixed, we just have to figure out whose side the refs are on

       If i knew 85 % of the money was on green bay.... i wouldnt bet on them if they were playing a small college team.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2012 - 2:39 PM ET #13

    There is not 85% on any game.  And no person with an IQ over 50 would think the NFL or any professional sports is fixed.  There would have to be millions of people that would have to be in on the fix and there is no way that many people can be trusted not to say anything.  Plus the fact that if any time there is an "odd" betting pattern for any game in Las Vegas or online the very next phone call is to the NFL (or whatever sport) and the FBI. 
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    There is not 85% on any game.  And no person with an IQ over 50 would think the NFL or any professional sports is fixed.  There would have to be millions of people that would have to be in on the fix and there is no way that many people can be trusted not to say anything.  Plus the fact that if any time there is an "odd" betting pattern for any game in Las Vegas or online the very next phone call is to the NFL (or whatever sport) and the FBI. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2012 - 3:48 PM ET #14

    Seattle gained 1st down in the 2nd half that wasnt the result of a flag. 

    First of all, Jennings catch was a 1st down, it should have never come down to Rodgers on 3rd down.

    Second, even if GB kicks the field goal to go up 9-7, how can you possibly say Seattle doesnt go 3 and out like every possession they had that half prior, and GB comes back down for another field goal???

    It amazes me how people keep bringing up the bad PI call on Finley.  First of all, it was 4th and 2 from the 40.  GB would have went for it. 

    No way what so ever, that the bad PI call with 11:20 min left in the game compares to the call with 0 seconds left. 

    Plus, you then add in the awful 15 yd PF calls on GB, the roughing the passer and the PI on Shieds on 1st and 30 when it was on Rice....

    It baffles me people say calls went both ways. 

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    Seattle gained 1st down in the 2nd half that wasnt the result of a flag. 

    First of all, Jennings catch was a 1st down, it should have never come down to Rodgers on 3rd down.

    Second, even if GB kicks the field goal to go up 9-7, how can you possibly say Seattle doesnt go 3 and out like every possession they had that half prior, and GB comes back down for another field goal???

    It amazes me how people keep bringing up the bad PI call on Finley.  First of all, it was 4th and 2 from the 40.  GB would have went for it. 

    No way what so ever, that the bad PI call with 11:20 min left in the game compares to the call with 0 seconds left. 

    Plus, you then add in the awful 15 yd PF calls on GB, the roughing the passer and the PI on Shieds on 1st and 30 when it was on Rice....

    It baffles me people say calls went both ways. 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2012 - 3:56 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by realscififan:

    There is not 85% on any game.  And no person with an IQ over 50 would think the NFL or any professional sports is fixed.  There would have to be millions of people that would have to be in on the fix and there is no way that many people can be trusted not to say anything.  Plus the fact that if any time there is an "odd" betting pattern for any game in Las Vegas or online the very next phone call is to the NFL (or whatever sport) and the FBI. 


    Not to start an argument but you only need the referees to fix a game.........the refs do not make millions of people in on it as you describe. Actually, I think people are mentally challenged that think these games arent shady with multi-millions of dollars involved. 

    The NFL imo is as powerful as some agencies out here..............

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    Quote Originally Posted by realscififan:

    There is not 85% on any game.  And no person with an IQ over 50 would think the NFL or any professional sports is fixed.  There would have to be millions of people that would have to be in on the fix and there is no way that many people can be trusted not to say anything.  Plus the fact that if any time there is an "odd" betting pattern for any game in Las Vegas or online the very next phone call is to the NFL (or whatever sport) and the FBI. 


    Not to start an argument but you only need the referees to fix a game.........the refs do not make millions of people in on it as you describe. Actually, I think people are mentally challenged that think these games arent shady with multi-millions of dollars involved. 

    The NFL imo is as powerful as some agencies out here..............

     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2012 - 3:59 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by IgetMoney101:

    I'll tell you exactly what would have happened if the ball hit the ground. The refs would have called roughing the passer vs Matthews


    This
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    Quote Originally Posted by IgetMoney101:

    I'll tell you exactly what would have happened if the ball hit the ground. The refs would have called roughing the passer vs Matthews


    This
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2012 - 3:59 PM ET #17

    Game was Fixed for Seattle To Cover.  Instant Replay just became irrelevant after last night.  Why have it hen Refs are going to call what they want to?
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    Game was Fixed for Seattle To Cover.  Instant Replay just became irrelevant after last night.  Why have it hen Refs are going to call what they want to?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2012 - 4:00 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by realscififan:

    There is not 85% on any game.  And no person with an IQ over 50 would think the NFL or any professional sports is fixed.  There would have to be millions of people that would have to be in on the fix and there is no way that many people can be trusted not to say anything.  Plus the fact that if any time there is an "odd" betting pattern for any game in Las Vegas or online the very next phone call is to the NFL (or whatever sport) and the FBI. 


    Are you a dumbass there's been noted instances of fixes in sports
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    Quote Originally Posted by realscififan:

    There is not 85% on any game.  And no person with an IQ over 50 would think the NFL or any professional sports is fixed.  There would have to be millions of people that would have to be in on the fix and there is no way that many people can be trusted not to say anything.  Plus the fact that if any time there is an "odd" betting pattern for any game in Las Vegas or online the very next phone call is to the NFL (or whatever sport) and the FBI. 


    Are you a dumbass there's been noted instances of fixes in sports
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2012 - 4:04 PM ET #19

    1st and 30 for seattle and there's a "Pass Interference" on GB
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    1st and 30 for seattle and there's a "Pass Interference" on GB
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2012 - 4:07 PM ET #20

    You are a fucking idiot to not think professional sports especially the NBA and NFL are fixed.. too much $ involved. It's been proven in sports that games have been fixed before. It didn't stop
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    You are a fucking idiot to not think professional sports especially the NBA and NFL are fixed.. too much $ involved. It's been proven in sports that games have been fixed before. It didn't stop
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2012 - 4:11 PM ET #21

    yeah the refs decided to make sure Tate had at least a piece of the ball to call simultaneous possetion and call a TD instead of calling a PI that gets them to the one yard line 20 secs before... 

    FIX!!! hahaha stop crying, there were a lot of bad calls both ways, and the regular refs are not great either.
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    yeah the refs decided to make sure Tate had at least a piece of the ball to call simultaneous possetion and call a TD instead of calling a PI that gets them to the one yard line 20 secs before... 

    FIX!!! hahaha stop crying, there were a lot of bad calls both ways, and the regular refs are not great either.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2012 - 4:13 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by Pho-20:

    What about that interception by Wilson then get called back for roughing the passer when clearly there no foul . The officiating was horrid last night. 

    he went for the knees so yeah thats a flag thanks to gay brady.. stupid rule but it is a rule now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pho-20:

    What about that interception by Wilson then get called back for roughing the passer when clearly there no foul . The officiating was horrid last night. 

    he went for the knees so yeah thats a flag thanks to gay brady.. stupid rule but it is a rule now.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2012 - 4:15 PM ET #23

    So who fixes them geniuses? Just the refs? Are the players in on it too? Coaches? Where does it stop? There was no fix last night. There was absolute incompetence, but no fix. The Packers only td drive was kept alive on a bogus PI call too. So were they on a different side at that point? And yeah, I'm real sure they would have dropped a flag on Matthews 10 seconds after the ball was released. Then what? They still have to score again. Keep calling penalties until they finally score? These refs are not qualified, thats all there is to it.
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    So who fixes them geniuses? Just the refs? Are the players in on it too? Coaches? Where does it stop? There was no fix last night. There was absolute incompetence, but no fix. The Packers only td drive was kept alive on a bogus PI call too. So were they on a different side at that point? And yeah, I'm real sure they would have dropped a flag on Matthews 10 seconds after the ball was released. Then what? They still have to score again. Keep calling penalties until they finally score? These refs are not qualified, thats all there is to it.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2012 - 4:20 PM ET #24

    If there was a fix, please explain on how 3rd down, one play before the play we all know now, Golden Tate makes a legitimate effort to catch the ball around the 10 yard line, too far away from the sideline to get out of bounds. 

    Seeing as he was flanked by multiple Packer DBs, if he Tate makes the catch, he would have been tackled immediately and the first down would be irrelevant as the clock would tick and time would run out.

    So if there REALLY was a fix, all you delusional tin foil hat ramblers are telling me:

    With whatever you can think of at stake........ The fix came down to Golden Tate, out of ALL people, to drop that ball on 3rd down on purpose. Pretty hefty load of BS.
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    If there was a fix, please explain on how 3rd down, one play before the play we all know now, Golden Tate makes a legitimate effort to catch the ball around the 10 yard line, too far away from the sideline to get out of bounds. 

    Seeing as he was flanked by multiple Packer DBs, if he Tate makes the catch, he would have been tackled immediately and the first down would be irrelevant as the clock would tick and time would run out.

    So if there REALLY was a fix, all you delusional tin foil hat ramblers are telling me:

    With whatever you can think of at stake........ The fix came down to Golden Tate, out of ALL people, to drop that ball on 3rd down on purpose. Pretty hefty load of BS.
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2012 - 4:34 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by mariner24:

    if the refs really had the fix in, they would have not gave rodgers that 1st and goal on the 1 yard line. Because GB would have had to kick the field goal and would have probably won 9-7 with the seahwaks still covering.

    That play would have been so easy to uphold because it was called short on the field. So they needed indisputable evidence to give them a 1st down.

    You cant fix a game on a last minute hail mary dual possesion catch. There were a ton of bad calls on BOTH sides of the ball all game.

    That td catch didnt cost GB the game. GB's playcalling and refusal to run the ball in the 1st half cost GB the game.

     



    You must be forgetting that their are 5 maybe 6 other officials calling that game and it only takes 1 maybe 2 of themt be in on a fix.  example: It only took 1 Tim Donaghy to rigg and change the the outcome of so many games and he wasnt even officiating by his self
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    Quote Originally Posted by mariner24:

    if the refs really had the fix in, they would have not gave rodgers that 1st and goal on the 1 yard line. Because GB would have had to kick the field goal and would have probably won 9-7 with the seahwaks still covering.

    That play would have been so easy to uphold because it was called short on the field. So they needed indisputable evidence to give them a 1st down.

    You cant fix a game on a last minute hail mary dual possesion catch. There were a ton of bad calls on BOTH sides of the ball all game.

    That td catch didnt cost GB the game. GB's playcalling and refusal to run the ball in the 1st half cost GB the game.

     



    You must be forgetting that their are 5 maybe 6 other officials calling that game and it only takes 1 maybe 2 of themt be in on a fix.  example: It only took 1 Tim Donaghy to rigg and change the the outcome of so many games and he wasnt even officiating by his self
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