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    Huge Letdown, Too Proud to Quit, and The Liturgy of Fade (write ups)

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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2024 - 1:48 AM ET #1


    The NFL is a minefield, especially during the dog days of the season. In addition to the usual variance caused by bad officiating, costly turnovers, boneheaded coaching and the rest you have to worry about undisclosed injuries, team turmoil, tanking, fatigue, tricky scheduling spots, lack of motivation, preparedness, etc.

    To counteract all that, which isn’t easy, one must find teams that are likely to be the most focused, motivated, and prepared for the task at hand facing opponents who are, for one reason or another, less motivated, less focused or less prepared than they are. The teams that fit these criteria this week are the Cardinals, facing the Viking, and the Rams facing the Saints.

    The Cardinals were in a bad scheduling spot last week as I mentioned in my writeup backing Seattle. They were on a 4 game win streak coming off a bye. Their dd victories at home were not against impressive teams (something they’d never admit to themselves) and their opponent, the Seahawks, were trying to not only end a 4 game losing streak at home but also get back in the division race by beating the team ahead of them.

    This week, after a humbling loss, the Cardinals will be much more focused and desperate, knowing they squandered a great opportunity last week and are taking on a very good Vikings team on the road this week. Speaking of the Vikings, they are in s huge letdown spot. Winners of three straight games on the road, with the last one in OT, the conquering heroes finally come home to a well earned and much needed home stand. In the comforts of their homes, surrounded by family and friends during Thanksgiving, they finally get to relax and kick off their shoes knowing they are likely to play even better at home than they did in winning three straight on the road. This is good. This is exactly what we want them to think! This is how teams get complacent, and this is why you fade them. 

    The play: Cardinals +3.5 for 2.5 units

    The next game involves our old friends the Rams, who were humiliated yet again on national TV by a superior Eagles team. Some teams might give up on a season after the beating they took, but the Rams are built differently. From their SB coach to their SB QB, the Rams have a mental toughness to them that prevents them from letting go of the rope. They are still in the hunt for the division despite the loss, and with the daunting schedule ahead, this becomes an all-in, throw in the kitchen sink type of game for a prideful coach and team wanting to bounce back from an ugly loss.

    Played indoors and on a fast track, the Rams will show up come Sunday. Weather will not be a factor for Stafford and company, unlike the game in NE, and that’s a good thing. Meanwhile, the Saints are coming off two straight victories, after firing their coach, and a bye week. They and their interim coach can’t help but be feeling good about themselves and their chances after beating the division leading .500 Falcons team and destroying the cellar dwelling Browns. Once again, complacency and over-confidence looms, so you fade. 

    The play: Rams -2.5 for 2.5 units

    The title of the post honors old posters on covers (with their respective betting angles) who are no longer around.  peace_5

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    The NFL is a minefield, especially during the dog days of the season. In addition to the usual variance caused by bad officiating, costly turnovers, boneheaded coaching and the rest you have to worry about undisclosed injuries, team turmoil, tanking, fatigue, tricky scheduling spots, lack of motivation, preparedness, etc.

    To counteract all that, which isn’t easy, one must find teams that are likely to be the most focused, motivated, and prepared for the task at hand facing opponents who are, for one reason or another, less motivated, less focused or less prepared than they are. The teams that fit these criteria this week are the Cardinals, facing the Viking, and the Rams facing the Saints.

    The Cardinals were in a bad scheduling spot last week as I mentioned in my writeup backing Seattle. They were on a 4 game win streak coming off a bye. Their dd victories at home were not against impressive teams (something they’d never admit to themselves) and their opponent, the Seahawks, were trying to not only end a 4 game losing streak at home but also get back in the division race by beating the team ahead of them.

    This week, after a humbling loss, the Cardinals will be much more focused and desperate, knowing they squandered a great opportunity last week and are taking on a very good Vikings team on the road this week. Speaking of the Vikings, they are in s huge letdown spot. Winners of three straight games on the road, with the last one in OT, the conquering heroes finally come home to a well earned and much needed home stand. In the comforts of their homes, surrounded by family and friends during Thanksgiving, they finally get to relax and kick off their shoes knowing they are likely to play even better at home than they did in winning three straight on the road. This is good. This is exactly what we want them to think! This is how teams get complacent, and this is why you fade them. 

    The play: Cardinals +3.5 for 2.5 units

    The next game involves our old friends the Rams, who were humiliated yet again on national TV by a superior Eagles team. Some teams might give up on a season after the beating they took, but the Rams are built differently. From their SB coach to their SB QB, the Rams have a mental toughness to them that prevents them from letting go of the rope. They are still in the hunt for the division despite the loss, and with the daunting schedule ahead, this becomes an all-in, throw in the kitchen sink type of game for a prideful coach and team wanting to bounce back from an ugly loss.

    Played indoors and on a fast track, the Rams will show up come Sunday. Weather will not be a factor for Stafford and company, unlike the game in NE, and that’s a good thing. Meanwhile, the Saints are coming off two straight victories, after firing their coach, and a bye week. They and their interim coach can’t help but be feeling good about themselves and their chances after beating the division leading .500 Falcons team and destroying the cellar dwelling Browns. Once again, complacency and over-confidence looms, so you fade. 

    The play: Rams -2.5 for 2.5 units

    The title of the post honors old posters on covers (with their respective betting angles) who are no longer around.  peace_5

     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2024 - 4:31 AM ET #2

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     Love both

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     Love both

     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2024 - 5:26 AM ET #3

    Damn Scal, you're on a roll this weekpeace_5

    Histrionic personality disorder. It's sad
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2024 - 6:30 AM ET #4

    Good luck BB.  an_cheers

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    Good luck BB.  an_cheers

     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2024 - 11:06 AM ET #5

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     Win or lose, I enjoyed your situational analysis. Thank you.

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     Win or lose, I enjoyed your situational analysis. Thank you.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2024 - 11:10 AM ET #6

    BB playing tribute while giving a personal tribute with quality insight. Take care BBpeace_5

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    BB playing tribute while giving a personal tribute with quality insight. Take care BBpeace_5

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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2024 - 11:25 AM ET #7

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     Like both plays....Question ...Next week Seattle/Arizona rematch in Zona...

    Leaning Cards to win .....any initial thoughts?....thanks BB....peace_5

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     Like both plays....Question ...Next week Seattle/Arizona rematch in Zona...

    Leaning Cards to win .....any initial thoughts?....thanks BB....peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by lmb4321:

    @begginerboy  Like both plays....Question ...Next week Seattle/Arizona rematch in Zona... Leaning Cards to win .....any initial thoughts?....thanks BB....

    If there are no major injuries, I like the Cards to get their revenge. peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by lmb4321:

    @begginerboy  Like both plays....Question ...Next week Seattle/Arizona rematch in Zona... Leaning Cards to win .....any initial thoughts?....thanks BB....

    If there are no major injuries, I like the Cards to get their revenge. peace_5

     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2024 - 11:56 AM ET #9

    The nfc west is pure ass

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    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    The nfc west is pure ass

    Agreed but they provide good betting opportunities. peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    The nfc west is pure ass

    Agreed but they provide good betting opportunities. peace_5

     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2024 - 12:09 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by wmi799:

    Damn Scal, you're on a roll this week

     

    My mother finally let me out to play.an_wink

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    Quote Originally Posted by wmi799:

    Damn Scal, you're on a roll this week

     

    My mother finally let me out to play.an_wink

     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2024 - 12:29 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by Fuse:

    BB playing tribute while giving a personal tribute with quality insight. Take care BB

    Thanks, Fuse. So many guys I connected with on here through the years. Too many to name. League Capper and Scal were two of my favorites, but there were others as well. ah the banter that went on here in those days! You could write a novel. Nothing like that remotely exists here anymore. Just a bunch of picks with zero writeups and guys touting their records or hurling insults at each other.  peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuse:

    BB playing tribute while giving a personal tribute with quality insight. Take care BB

    Thanks, Fuse. So many guys I connected with on here through the years. Too many to name. League Capper and Scal were two of my favorites, but there were others as well. ah the banter that went on here in those days! You could write a novel. Nothing like that remotely exists here anymore. Just a bunch of picks with zero writeups and guys touting their records or hurling insults at each other.  peace_5

     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2024 - 12:29 PM ET #13

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     Another week ahead play....Can Rams hang with Buffalo +3.5...?

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     Another week ahead play....Can Rams hang with Buffalo +3.5...?

     
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    BB peace_5

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     Sweet! Good luck on your plays and thanks for your input on the games peace_5

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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2024 - 3:11 PM ET #16

    Like both of those, nice write up!

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    Like both of those, nice write up!

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    How did your porn token end up?reallyhappy

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    Kyler Murray looked like he was playing injured last game. Did not look to scramble or throw more than 10 yards down field all game and then seemed to further aggravate it on that 3rd down play. He looked very uncomfortable. Just my two cents. 

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    Kyler Murray looked like he was playing injured last game. Did not look to scramble or throw more than 10 yards down field all game and then seemed to further aggravate it on that 3rd down play. He looked very uncomfortable. Just my two cents. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by benhogan76:

    How did your porn token end up?

    Not good. Ben. Not good at all. One of the worst financial decisions I ever made. It still eats away at me, especially as I posted something about it on Covers. A definite blot on my resume here. I got caught up in the crypto craze like many others at the time and got crushed. peace_5

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    How did your porn token end up?

    Not good. Ben. Not good at all. One of the worst financial decisions I ever made. It still eats away at me, especially as I posted something about it on Covers. A definite blot on my resume here. I got caught up in the crypto craze like many others at the time and got crushed. peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurdFerguson555:

    Kyler Murray looked like he was playing injured last game. Did not look to scramble or throw more than 10 yards down field all game and then seemed to further aggravate it on that 3rd down play. He looked very uncomfortable. Just my two cents.

    Good info peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by TurdFerguson555:

    Kyler Murray looked like he was playing injured last game. Did not look to scramble or throw more than 10 yards down field all game and then seemed to further aggravate it on that 3rd down play. He looked very uncomfortable. Just my two cents.

    Good info peace_5

     
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    Bb! cool

    appreciate the shout brother.
    my Vikings are gonna be vulnerable. Might be wishful thinking but perhaps GB is feeling a bit high and mighty. Expecting a great fins performance gimme the ML!

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    Bb! cool

    appreciate the shout brother.
    my Vikings are gonna be vulnerable. Might be wishful thinking but perhaps GB is feeling a bit high and mighty. Expecting a great fins performance gimme the ML!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liturgy_of_Fade:

    Bb!  appreciate the shout brother.my Vikings are gonna be vulnerable. Might be wishful thinking but perhaps GB is feeling a bit high and mighty. Expecting a great fins performance gimme the ML!

     

    Great to see you, buddy! Hope you and the family are well. If I had to bet, I’d take the Dolphins, but like Father Time cold weather is undefeated when it comes to teams from Florida:) so I’m staying away. But I’ll be rooting for you! peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liturgy_of_Fade:

    Bb!  appreciate the shout brother.my Vikings are gonna be vulnerable. Might be wishful thinking but perhaps GB is feeling a bit high and mighty. Expecting a great fins performance gimme the ML!

     

    Great to see you, buddy! Hope you and the family are well. If I had to bet, I’d take the Dolphins, but like Father Time cold weather is undefeated when it comes to teams from Florida:) so I’m staying away. But I’ll be rooting for you! peace_5

     
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    The NFL is a minefield, especially during the dog days of the season. In addition to the usual variance caused by bad officiating, costly turnovers, boneheaded coaching and the rest you have to worry about undisclosed injuries, team turmoil, tanking, fatigue, tricky scheduling spots, lack of motivation, preparedness, etc. To counteract all that, which isn’t easy, one must find teams that are likely to be the most focused, motivated, and prepared for the task at hand facing opponents who are, for one reason or another, less motivated, less focused or less prepared than they are. The teams that fit these criteria this week are the Cardinals, facing the Viking, and the Rams facing the Saints. The Cardinals were in a bad scheduling spot last week as I mentioned in my writeup backing Seattle. They were on a 4 game win streak coming off a bye. Their dd victories at home were not against impressive teams (something they’d never admit to themselves) and their opponent, the Seahawks, were trying to not only end a 4 game losing streak at home but also get back in the division race by beating the team ahead of them. This week, after a humbling loss, the Cardinals will be much more focused and desperate, knowing they squandered a great opportunity last week and are taking on a very good Vikings team on the road this week. Speaking of the Vikings, they are in s huge letdown spot. Winners of three straight games on the road, with the last one in OT, the conquering heroes finally come home to a well earned and much needed home stand. In the comforts of their homes, surrounded by family and friends during Thanksgiving, they finally get to relax and kick off their shoes knowing they are likely to play even better at home than they did in winning three straight on the road. This is good. This is exactly what we want them to think! This is how teams get complacent, and this is why you fade them.  The play: Cardinals +3.5 for 2.5 units The next game involves our old friends the Rams, who were humiliated yet again on national TV by a superior Eagles team. Some teams might give up on a season after the beating they took, but the Rams are built differently. From their SB coach to their SB QB, the Rams have a mental toughness to them that prevents them from letting go of the rope. They are still in the hunt for the division despite the loss, and with the daunting schedule ahead, this becomes an all-in, throw in the kitchen sink type of game for a prideful coach and team wanting to bounce back from an ugly loss. Played indoors and on a fast track, the Rams will show up come Sunday. Weather will not be a factor for Stafford and company, unlike the game in NE, and that’s a good thing. Meanwhile, the Saints are coming off two straight victories, after firing their coach, and a bye week. They and their interim coach can’t help but be feeling good about themselves and their chances after beating the division leading .500 Falcons team and destroying the cellar dwelling Browns. Once again, complacency and over-confidence looms, so you fade.  The play: Rams -2.5 for 2.5 units The title of the post honors old posters on covers (with their respective betting angles) who are no longer around.

    Looks like the karma of honoring the old-timers of covers and their capping strategies paid off! Hope some of you tailed. peace_5

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    The NFL is a minefield, especially during the dog days of the season. In addition to the usual variance caused by bad officiating, costly turnovers, boneheaded coaching and the rest you have to worry about undisclosed injuries, team turmoil, tanking, fatigue, tricky scheduling spots, lack of motivation, preparedness, etc. To counteract all that, which isn’t easy, one must find teams that are likely to be the most focused, motivated, and prepared for the task at hand facing opponents who are, for one reason or another, less motivated, less focused or less prepared than they are. The teams that fit these criteria this week are the Cardinals, facing the Viking, and the Rams facing the Saints. The Cardinals were in a bad scheduling spot last week as I mentioned in my writeup backing Seattle. They were on a 4 game win streak coming off a bye. Their dd victories at home were not against impressive teams (something they’d never admit to themselves) and their opponent, the Seahawks, were trying to not only end a 4 game losing streak at home but also get back in the division race by beating the team ahead of them. This week, after a humbling loss, the Cardinals will be much more focused and desperate, knowing they squandered a great opportunity last week and are taking on a very good Vikings team on the road this week. Speaking of the Vikings, they are in s huge letdown spot. Winners of three straight games on the road, with the last one in OT, the conquering heroes finally come home to a well earned and much needed home stand. In the comforts of their homes, surrounded by family and friends during Thanksgiving, they finally get to relax and kick off their shoes knowing they are likely to play even better at home than they did in winning three straight on the road. This is good. This is exactly what we want them to think! This is how teams get complacent, and this is why you fade them.  The play: Cardinals +3.5 for 2.5 units The next game involves our old friends the Rams, who were humiliated yet again on national TV by a superior Eagles team. Some teams might give up on a season after the beating they took, but the Rams are built differently. From their SB coach to their SB QB, the Rams have a mental toughness to them that prevents them from letting go of the rope. They are still in the hunt for the division despite the loss, and with the daunting schedule ahead, this becomes an all-in, throw in the kitchen sink type of game for a prideful coach and team wanting to bounce back from an ugly loss. Played indoors and on a fast track, the Rams will show up come Sunday. Weather will not be a factor for Stafford and company, unlike the game in NE, and that’s a good thing. Meanwhile, the Saints are coming off two straight victories, after firing their coach, and a bye week. They and their interim coach can’t help but be feeling good about themselves and their chances after beating the division leading .500 Falcons team and destroying the cellar dwelling Browns. Once again, complacency and over-confidence looms, so you fade.  The play: Rams -2.5 for 2.5 units The title of the post honors old posters on covers (with their respective betting angles) who are no longer around.

    Looks like the karma of honoring the old-timers of covers and their capping strategies paid off! Hope some of you tailed. peace_5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2024 - 7:17 PM ET #24

    Nice bets BB

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    Nice bets BB

     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2024 - 7:35 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    Nice bets BB

    Thanks, buddy. I appreciate it. I had a week off, so I was able to post and offer a write up. Next week looks good. I should have a few plays. peace_5

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    Nice bets BB

    Thanks, buddy. I appreciate it. I had a week off, so I was able to post and offer a write up. Next week looks good. I should have a few plays. peace_5

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